One for the rules gurus.

[Scifisicko]

And none of these answer.

Sorry JC, BarryRhodes answers specifically, and he is highest level accredited with R&A.

Thats what i needed, thanks.

[Johnny Canuck]

Sorry JC, BarryRhodes answers specifically, and he is highest level accredited with R&A.

Thats what i needed, thanks.

Barry is quite good.

[3oneday]

What did Bazza say, clearly what Schitzo wanted to read?

[Scifisicko]

Pretty much, he's not happy about it but using a brush to remove LI's is legal.

[Shadesy]

Surely the act of brushing requires force downward... So pressing down.

It's quite a dusty issue

[mrbluu]

Pretty much, he's not happy about it but using a brush to remove LI's is legal.

Sweet so off to ALDI u go!!!

[Dotty]

Did your arms swing freely when sweeping?

Maybe he thought you were anchoring the broomstick.

[AndyP]

Let's brush this issue aside now, and focus on other rules.

[3Puttpete]

Are you suggesting we sweep it under the carpet before it's resolved?

[AndyP]

Okay, let's wait until the dust settles.

[Hatchman]

Like sand through an hour glass, this this will settle.

[3oneday]

Whats the penalty for playing with mrbluu?

[Dotty]

Whats the penalty for playing with mrbluu?

Get sent to the Vatican, so you can't give evidence at the Royal Commission.

[Dcanto]

Get sent to the Vatican, so you can't give evidence at the Royal Commission.

That's gold right there. 😂

[Scifisicko]

Checked my GL after today's round to find i had been DQ'd.

Our greens have recently been sanded and I used a soft broom to sweep loose impediments (mainly sand) off the line of the putt. I was careful not to press down, scrape, roughen or test the surface.

I asked the captain and he said it was for breach of 16-1d and 14-3. Since decisions 23-1/1 says loose impediments may be removed by any means provided the player does not press anything down, and decisions 16-1a/8 says it is specifically OK to use a cap or a towel to brush the line of a putt, I cant see how it can be OK to use any means to remove loose impediments, and specifically OK to use a towel, but not OK to use a broom. Am I missing something?

14-3 is about unusual equipment that will assist play. I am waiting for clarification re which part of the rule they are invoking, however in the meantime, the clause does also say "except as provided in the rules". i think decision 23-1/1 is the exception that makes brooms OK.

I would appreciate your thoughts before I do (or don't) anything more.

Match Committee reversed its decision and reinstated my round.

[Steve57]

Match Committee reversed its decision and reinstated my round.

As they should have, well done!

[Johnny Canuck]

Will a local rule about brooms be put in place?

[wazamac]

I'm sure this will be another chapter in the R&A Handbook in years to come.

[Scifisicko]

I'm sure this will be another chapter in the R&A Handbook in years to come.

Yeah, our Match Committee referred it to the R&A for an adjudication.

What I found interesting out of all of this (not related) is finding out that one of Australia's most senior rules official thinks tapping down worm castings on the line of a putt is just another way of removing loose impediments and is not pressing down.

[sheezymaneezy]

How do they determine the placings for a tournament in the event of a tie?

eg:

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How do they determine who is 'placed' higher for T2 and T4?


*I know this makes no difference in actual golf, but this question is for how some online bookies settle golf place bets.

[WBennett]

How do they determine the placings for a tournament in the event of a tie?

eg:

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How do they determine who is 'placed' higher for T2 and T4?


*I know this makes no difference in actual golf, but this question is for how some online bookies settle golf place bets.

As far as I know, lowest final round first, or in case of tie, first to finish the round.

[jimandr]

Ask the on-line bookie.

Usually for stuff like top 10 or top 25 they pay on ties, but this would be in the fine print somewhere.

If they are claiming top 3 means a countback is applied and you get nothing for your bet even though your player was actually one of three who were tied 2nd, find a new bookie.

[Daves]

This little discussion should be in the Rules thread, but it doesn't matter.

You might all be wrong.

Cored greens (usually the freshly cored variety) may be covered by a local rule. Committees are able to make a rule that permits you to move a ball out of a core hole. Surely that same local rule would apply to a ball that falls into a core hole after being at rest.

Assuming that local rule was in place, then the outcome is still a no penalty, but you would have to replace the ball.

Yes it should be moved to the golf rules thread. As a mod, can you do that please Jim.

I really want to get opinions on not replacing the ball, as as far as I know, it must be replaced in most circumstances.

Once you have moved it Jim I will post again, thanks.

If player is deemed to have moved it it must be replaced. If it is deemed to have been moved by the wind or similar play it as it lies;

http://www.randa.org/RulesEquipment/...-at-Rest-Moved

[Steve57]

If player is deemed to have moved it it must be replaced. If it is deemed to have been moved by the wind or similar play it as it lies;

http://www.randa.org/RulesEquipment/...-at-Rest-Moved

Correct.
The decision 18-2/0.5 talks about the weight of evidence:
http://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/M...e-or-Equipment

This is why the Rule is so open to interpretation.
The reason that the DJ decision at the US Open could have been so controversial had he not been so far ahead.
I predict that it will be changed at the next revision in 2020.

[Jerrymoo]

Question about grip orientation.

I have a u-shaped putter grip (the front of the grip is flat, and the back of the grip is round), that I want to attach back-to-front... so... flat side underneath, round side on top.

Is this within the rules?