St Andrews Beach

[Marto65]

My tip. The first green is to the left of the fairway and not the right.

Its a ripper of a track.

It's just behind the bunker. You can get over it easily for 3, or you can try and get over it for 2 and get stuck in the top.

[mint]

its a short par 5. driver, long iron (or fairway wood for smaller hitters) right of the bunker with a draw easy on in 2.

[Courty]

I prefer Marto's version.

[mint]

I prefer Marto's version.

That version made me flaccid

[Courty]

That version made me flaccid

That version is exactly how I played it.

[Scifisicko]

Anyone irritated by all the blind approach shots? Ive played it a few times and its finally dawned on me that when I ocassionally hit a good drive, i like to be able to see the green.

[LeftyHoges]

Anyone irritated by all the blind approach shots? Ive played it a few times and its finally dawned on me that when I ocassionally hit a good drive, i like to be able to see the green.

Yep.

[spanner039]

And yes don't mind 1,3ish, 5 but 7 shits me

[LeftyHoges]

And yes don't mind 1,3ish, 5 but 7 shits me

7? That's pretty visible I thought. 8?

[Coldtopper]

Having a hit with a member so I will not be taking any playing advice from him. Thanks for the tips. Do like the old links tracks just havent played them enough should go ok as I hit it along the ground most of the time. Maybe I should put it up as a Ozgolf day trip do you think that any one would be keen with notice?

[LeftyHoges]

Having a hit with a member so I will not be taking any playing advice from him. Thanks for the tips. Do like the old links tracks just havent played them enough should go ok as I hit it along the ground most of the time. Maybe I should put it up as a Ozgolf day trip do you think that any one would be keen with notice?

There's a few VIC guys around who'd probably join you to play there.

[spanner039]

And yes don't mind 1,3ish, 5 but 7 shits me

Really know my home course mean 8

[spanner039]

7? That's pretty visible I thought. 8?

Not from where I play my 2nd from!!!

[spanner039]

7? That's pretty visible I thought. 8?

Not from where I play my 2nd from!!!

[mint]

I love a blind approach.. makes it so much more interesting! haha

[Bruce]

The first 3 tee shots at StAB are great.
1 looks amazing and you can get away with a fair bit on your first hit of the day.
2 offers about 9 different choices you can make.
3 needs to you be as long and precise as you can be.

A great mix.

[mint]

The first 3 tee shots at StAB are great.
1 looks amazing and you can get away with a fair bit on your first hit of the day.
2 offers about 9 different choices you can make.
3 needs to you be as long and precise as you can be.

A great mix.

All of this is so true!

[markTHEblake]

I get the concepts and have read up on its story, and played it on the Tom Doak comp day, so got to experience it at its finest, but is it just me or is this course overrated?

yes, its probably better than any course in QLD, but thats not saying much either. I have now played 7 courses down there, and wouldnt be upset if it wasnt on the short list for the next trip. Maybe it grows on you, once you learn the lines to play to get better angles. I think i got lucky though, i didnt find myself with any bad ones into the green, except for 13 when hitting it 225 in the dead centre of the fairway isnt good enough.

[petethepilot]

Blakey, it was built as a members course, so it needs lots of plays to know ‘how to play it’!
It has some great moments but some bad low moments.

The impossible to hit it shelf on #3
The impossible right pin on #6
The impossible green to hit and hold #10
The stupid drive/fairway on #13
The ‘Redan’ type hole that doesn’t feed from the right on #16

I really like the rest, although you are always walking 40 metres plus from the green to the next tee!

[markTHEblake]

^ concur with most of the above (what i dont is because i didnt experience that situation), i did have 3 under nett, so its not as if I am whinging because the course bit me in the bum. had 3 doubles but that was me being retarded, not the course.
I did hold 10 with a 4i, but yeah it did land 2m short of green and finished near back, with pin front left. Looking at this green if you miss it anywhere you are doomed.

I did walk off 13th thinking its a stupid stupid hole, declaring its obviously the owners tinkered with Doaks original design because he wouldnt be that silly (apparently not) . when we stood on the tee, i said it obviously has to have a huge hill to run down that you cant see off the tee. No it doesnt. if you can it it 250 then you get maybe 10m more. I can only guess that he did this hole to counter 2 very short par 4s.

the other silly thing on this course was many 'catchment' areas, where almost every drive funnels into one small spot, and thats full of divots. like 200m left on 2.

[LeftyHoges]

I get the concepts and have read up on its story, and played it on the Tom Doak comp day, so got to experience it at its finest, but is it just me or is this course overrated?

No. One of the very, VERY few "links-ish" designs in Australia that aren't ****ing stupid.

Blakey, it was built as a members course, so it needs lots of plays to know ‘how to play it’!
It has some great moments but some bad low moments.

The impossible to hit it shelf on #3
The impossible right pin on #6
The impossible green to hit and hold #10
The stupid drive/fairway on #13
The ‘Redan’ type hole that doesn’t feed from the right on #16

I really like the rest, although you are always walking 40 metres plus from the green to the next tee!

Agree with the shelf on #3.
Never had an issue with a right-pin on #6?
NEVER had an issue holding 10.
I only agree that the drive on 13 is ****ing stupid because it's blind. Other than that I don't see an issue?
I like 16, just a strong 3 that forces you to be conservative, or ballsy with your line. Considering the "relative snacks" that are 14 and 15 before it and 17 and 18 to finish it's a good 3.

Possibly very different from the back markers (and maybe that's what you're saying?) as I've never played it from there, but from the next set of tees it's all gravy.

The dumbest part of this course is the centre fairway bunker on 17.

[Ron Burgundy]

The dumbest part of this course is the centre fairway bunker on 17.

Haven’t we already resolved this? #aplayerofyourability

[ParkRoyal]

I want to love 13, probably becuse of the green site. But yeah the tee shot could have one of highest % of lost balls anywhere. I've always thought they could open up more of the right side, it wouldn't be good side to be on as it would still be a long shot in and the rhs bunker to contend with, but would make the hole more playable. And although the green site is cool, I think it could be more receptive.

I'm not that well travelled, but would there be a course with as much scale as StAB but where the greens feel so small?

[Toxic]

I want to love 13, probably becuse of the green site. But yeah the tee shot could have one of highest % of lost balls anywhere. I've always thought they could open up more of the right side, it wouldn't be good side to be on as it would still be a long shot in and the rhs bunker to contend with, but would make the hole more playable. And although the green site is cool, I think it could be more receptive.I'm not that well travelled, but would there be a course with as much scale as StAB but where the greens feel so small?

13s a great hole, accurate tee shot,ongoing 2nd into a very receptive green

[Toxic]

No. One of the very, VERY few "links-ish" designs in Australia that aren't ****ing stupid. Agree with the shelf on #3.Never had an issue with a right-pin on #6?NEVER had an issue holding 10.I only agree that the drive on 13 is ****ing stupid because it's blind. Other than that I don't see an issue?I like 16, just a strong 3 that forces you to be conservative, or ballsy with your line. Considering the "relative snacks" that are 14 and 15 before it and 17 and 18 to finish it's a good 3.Possibly very different from the back markers (and maybe that's what you're saying?) as I've never played it from there, but from the next set of tees it's all gravy.The dumbest part of this course is the centre fairway bunker on 17.

100% 17 fairway pot needs to be filled in