Martinez19696

[martinez]

Mark, that was the second time we had worked together. The half moon/belly roll is what he used as imagery for the changes we made to his swing. If you look at the John Deere video, you will see an upgrade of that, to where he got it more in there. Then the "Steve Elkington Range Session" vid is at Reno the week after that. Then after a week off in Houston, he went on to Turning stone and the PGA where he for the first time all Summer wasn't making any significant changes.

As we discussed yesterday, I'm a method teacher, but it's not about positions, it's a motion from set up to follow through (both arms straight for the first time) that's going to look different in everybody. You can learn that motion in 5 minutes, but there is MANY ways to enhance it from that first understanding. So this Champions video was just the beginning for Elk. He got better every week because he understood the basic motion which he demonstrates in this video, so was able to add 'more'...in his words "I'm going the other way".

[Jarro]

So, we any closer to setting a date for this thing or what ?

[dougkpga]

just spoke to martin - i'm in for the clinic - looks like 22nd Jan at Helensvale the GCCC range.

I get it - and only seen the clinic and the work with elk.

Doug

[martinez]

22nd it is. If anyone is interested in a clinic but can't make that date, maybe we can do a second one. But for now, it would be good to confirm the numbers for the 22nd.

[gazgolf1]

22nd it is. If anyone is interested in a clinic but can't make that date, maybe we can do a second one. But for now, it would be good to confirm the numbers for the 22nd.

Can we get an idea on the price or should I do that via PM ?

[martinez]

Can we get an idea on the price or should I do that via PM ?

I was planning to charge $150 per head, plus balls. That's assuming the sort of numbers that have expressed an interest.

[gazgolf1]

ok I'm in for the 22nd.

1. Gaz

[Daves]

ok I'm in for the 22nd.

1. Gaz

1. Gaz
2. Daves

[Jarro]

1. Gaz
2. Daves
3. jarro

[dougkpga]

1. Gaz
2. Daves
3. jarro
4. dougk
5. mark blake

if you dont come you'll regret it...

doug

[Jarro]

1. Gaz
2. Daves
3.
4. dougk
5. mark blake

Sorry all but i can't make this now

[martinez]

Jarro, I think there's more important things than Golf at a time like this.....

[markTHEblake]

I had a hit at the range tonight applying the lessons from Martinez, sort of On Sunday Doug explained what Martinez is teaching and demonstrated with a kids plastic golf club on his verandah. Then I practiced in front of the mirror all week, and I like the position that I am getting to at the top, and tonight was the litmus test - as usual first shot was a shank, Thats usually a good sign for me.

No doubt I was doing it not entirely correct but of all the things Doug has taught me this was by far the easiest to understand and then apply. I wont get into the details here (because i always explain it wrong anyway) but basically the only things i usually work on is getting the backswing correct, I beleive if you get that right then the rest looks after itself, and you cant really control that. Anything you have to consciously try is usually a forced correction.

The outcome was quite interesting, I could not stop swinging down too fast with my arms first, no matter how hard i tried to make an 'easy' swing. Most shots also went right, very high and nothing left at all, and sometimes with enough power as i like. It still felt better though, so I knew I am on the right track.

then i just worked on trying to do that little bump left with the hips before the downswing commences that Hogan does, and that made everything fall into place, including slowing down the downswing to a speed that I was more comfortable with. My shots straightened up, good balance on the follow through, no strain on the back, and this is hard to explain - I feel at impact that enough clubhead speed and power was created, but it wasn't me doing it, it is the club and I am just hanging on to the end.

Look forward to ironing the wrinkles out next weekend.

[martinez]

Looking forward to it too. It does sound like you got on the right track, it will be interesting for me, to see how much an experienced pro like Doug was able to glean from the videos I have put out.

[Iain]

1. Gaz
2. Daves
3. Iain
4. dougk
5. mark blake

I need to catch up with Marty.

[markTHEblake]

It does sound like you got on the right track

Played yesterday and the outcome was quite good, not yet confident but only hit one shot right, and a few left. 6 inches of wet rough and tee up probably helped that a lot but fairway shots were great.

Again my best shots were the ones like i cant feel the club at all, lets say the complete opposite if you were too swing an axe into a tree, with your entire body applying the force at impact. With golf i feel like I would prefer to do that, but that is probably wrong.

Was talking to Rabbit about this today and he suggests that means I am probably getting something right. (he admits he has forgotten to call you, but he still wants to)

[martinez]

1. Gaz
2. Daves
3. Iain
4. dougk
5. mark blake

I need to catch up with Marty.

Will be good Iain, would love a couple more guys/gals to join up, but I do understand now may not be appropriate.

@Mark
Would love to catch up with Rabs, I shouldn't wait for him to call me :P

[dougkpga]

I have another guy who will be coming Mike Caladine.

Sorry about pre empting the clinic martin, but I'm pretty excited.

I know I will still have a lot to get out of it.

[gazgolf1]

C'mon Ryan you know you want to.

[martinez]

It's going to be a great day. Looking forward to it.

[markTHEblake]

I know it will be a long day, but if anyone is interested we could nick over to Helensvale GC for a quick nine and beer. Its only a couple mins drive away, and you will all be keen to try out the new swing on a golf course and we would have it to ourselves, and no better place to test your skills than our mighty 1st hole.

There is also the GC Country Club walking distance from the range, that is typically crowded though, and would cost more.

Sorry about pre empting the clinic martin, but I'm pretty excited.

Now thats saying something, it takes a lot to get Doug excited (apart from Essendon kicking a goal)

[Iain]

What time will it start?

[Daves]

I know it will be a long day, but if anyone is interested we could nick over to Helensvale GC for a quick nine and beer. Its only a couple mins drive away, and you will all be keen to try out the new swing on a golf course and we would have it to ourselves, and no better place to test your skills than our mighty 1st hole.

There is also the GC Country Club walking distance from the range, that is typically crowded though, and would cost more.



Now thats saying something, it takes a lot to get Doug excited (apart from Essendon kicking a goal)

Sounds like a plan if we finish early enough.

What time will it start?

I think Martin was suggesting 8.00am start somewhere back in the thread. Hopefully he will update tonight/tomorrow.

[markTHEblake]

I think Martin was suggesting 8.00am start somewhere back in the thread.

Indeed he did. I'll get there are 8am unless otherwise advised. Need to catch up on some gossip with some local punters there anyway.

Marty, will you be videoing us?

You'll get some one on one time during the clinic.

Just to let you know the general one day clinic schedule.
8-8.30 I give a little speech about the overall idea behind the motion I preach.
8.30-10 Individual work on overall motion with instruction.
10-11 some drills.....which depends on the individuals needs. A group explanation of each drill.
12-2 Short game, incorporating similar concepts into shorter swings
2-3 Aiming. Taking it to the course.
3-4 Individual instruction
4-stumps Putting and Q+A

[Iain]

I think Martin was suggesting 8.00am start somewhere back in the thread. Hopefully he will update tonight/tomorrow.

9:00 start. Just heard from Marty. He'll be there from 8, but won't officially start until 9.