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8th March 2005 12:07 AM
#1
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
OzGolf Matchplay - Tournament conditions and nominations.
Well seeings everyone is excited about this, here we go.
Ozgolf Matchplay Rules.
updates in Bold 18/05/05
1. Major event: Regions. The event will be played out in different regions, eg Sydney, SEQ, and so on. If any area can come up with the numbers (ie 8) then go ahead and join in.
2. Minor Event: National Titles. The winner of the largest region has the right to host a national title against other finalists at time and place of his/her reasonable choosing, or whatever, this is not the main event.
3. Individuals will arrange their own matches at a mutually agreed course. Its expected No golfer will insist on playing at their own club (see #4: appeal). In the interests of camaraderie try and stick to official Ozgolf days.
4. There will be a set date for each round of matches to be played. If a match is not played both competitors are disqualified, unless one forfeits. A player may appeal this to the committee should he think the opponent did not make fair effort to arrange a match.
Approx 1 to 2 months will be given to arrange a match, about 12 months for the whole event.
After round 1, any player who withdraws from the event, his previous opponent takes his place - time permitting.
5. Full AGU Handicap as at the date of the match applies, verifiable by golf link or other official source. AGU matchplay index to be used, download here www.theblake.net/ftp/MatchplayIndex.pdf
Note: The index applies in accordance with the order that your match plays the holes. The 1st hole on the matchplay index is your First hole, even if you tee of the 10th. See explanatory notes and index this page.
6. The matches will be seeded as per the POTY money list as at date of the draw. If golfers are not on the money list then seeded according to number of posts to forum, then by random.
7. Matches halved at the 18th hole to be played sudden death. Where this is not feasable, work something out or replay another day.
8. Cost is $2 per player per match except the final. 1st, 2nd and 3rd will receive a winners check of 60%, 30% and 10% respectively. Money to be deposited to a bank account somewhere.
9. POTY money:
paid to loser at end of round.
QLd
Round 1: ....$2000
Round 2: ....$4000
Qtr: ...........$8000
Semi : .......$16000
Final : ........$32000 & Winner $64000
NSW
Round 1: ....$2000
Qtr: ...........$4000
Semi: ........$8000
Final : ........$16000 & Winner $32000
Note: if matches are played in conjunction with other Ozgolf days, the matchplay money will be offset against the other money, ie the higher amount only will be paid.
10. Nominations to be received by the 20/3/05, draw will be released by 31/3/05. Please nominate your freinds if you know that they will want to play, and we can see if we can kick it off earlier.
11. Eligibility, Ozgolf members and their partners/families. No ring ins.
12. Numbers in each pool should be limited to 4,8, 16, 32 etc. To fit as many in as we can, there will either be a small number of byes in the first round, or a small number of reserves. eg if there are 14 players, there will be two byes, if 19 players there will be 3 reserves.
14. Sponsorship welcome.
15. Suggestions please
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15th March 2005 02:03 PM
#51
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
As far is i can tell, the following people might not know about it yet.
20 Senecio 28
21 Kee 32
26 Brooky17 46
29 Griz 100
MTB, I know about it and Davidp has already contacted me about organising something between us. At the moment, we are going to play our match during the Woodford day.
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15th March 2005 02:15 PM
#52
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
Originally Posted by
BrisVegas
Compulsory? Did I miss something? I never nominated for this. No interest, no time, no thanks.
Count me out.
I am really surprised, thought yuo would be keen to play in the odd ozgolf day. So you are not going to play in any ozgolf day in the next 2.5 months?
After the Wynnum round, I probably won't be playing much for a few months. Hence the reason why I didn't nominate for this thing.
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15th March 2005 02:24 PM
#53
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
BrisVegas
I probably won't be playing much for a few months
Well there you go, you only need to play once in a few months, thats less than much
and you could have the opportunity to say
"regrettably darling i cant lay turf/paint house/build fence today, i have been forced to play golf and i dont have a choice"
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31st March 2005 03:54 PM
#54
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Re: OzGolf Matchplay - Tournament conditions and nominations
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
updates in Bold 29/3/05
Shouldn't you let people know when you change the rules?
After round 1, any player who withdraws from the event, his previous opponent takes his place - time permitting.
What about the highest seeded loser from the previous round instead?
8. Cost is $2 per player per match except the final. 1st, 2nd and 3rd will receive a winners check of 60%, 30% and 10% respectively. Money to be deposited to a bank account somewhere.
Do you have to pay for a bye?
Have those that have already played paid up?
You've got a lot of POTY cash on offer there, Blakey. You don't think it is too much?
When you play a match against someone, do you get money for playing the match, and taking part in an OZgolf day?
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31st March 2005 04:24 PM
#55
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
OK - who is collecting the cashola? I'm happy to collect and hold onto the money for the NSW side of the draw.
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31st March 2005 04:29 PM
#56
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
- was discussed in another thread - nothing was changed - besides nobody reads it anyway.
- nah.
- no, no, i have been meaning to bring that up.
- thought about that for a long time, many different connotations. in the end its a huge event with 32 players, so No. Yes.
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31st March 2005 04:42 PM
#57
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
- was discussed in another thread - nothing was changed - besides nobody reads it anyway.
How about if I add the conditions/rules to the results/draw sticky, and drop this as a sticky? (One less sticky would be nice)
You can feed any updates to the conditions to me and I will edit the sticky.
BTW thanks for making me flick between my questions on the previous page and your answers.
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11th April 2005 12:44 PM
#58
Senior Member
Major Winner
Why is the QLD winner awarded $64k and the NSW winner $32k??
Yet another way of rigging this "system"
Let's have some equality, yeah?
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11th April 2005 12:48 PM
#59
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
becuase NSW have half as many players, thats as equal as i could work it.
in a normal 32 player field, the winner would get $48000
for 16 players, winner would get $24000.
doesnt get any more complicated than that.
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11th April 2005 12:49 PM
#60
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
Fishman Dan
Why is the QLD winner awarded $64k and the NSW winner $32k??
Probably because it is a bigger field.
The same for every other OZgolf event, the more people the more money.
That said, maybe it should be $58K, as there is only 29 participants in Qld.
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11th April 2005 12:51 PM
#61
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
becuase NSW have half as many players.
....and?
The winner of comp A deserves to win as much as the winner of comp B. Jiggle around the early rounds as much as you want, but semi's and finals are just as important - you still win a 'title'.
Why don't you call QLD's Round 1 a "qualifying" round. Therefore round "2" is the start of the real deal.
You know it makes sense
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11th April 2005 01:11 PM
#62
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
Originally Posted by
Fishman Dan
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
becuase NSW have half as many players.
....and?
The winner of comp A deserves to win as much as the winner of comp B. Jiggle around the early rounds as much as you want, but semi's and finals are just as important - you still win a 'title'.
Why don't you call QLD's Round 1 a "qualifying" round. Therefore round "2" is the start of the real deal.
You know it makes sense
Good point
I'd be happy with that
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11th April 2005 01:38 PM
#63
Senior Member
Major Winner
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11th April 2005 02:43 PM
#64
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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11th April 2005 03:07 PM
#65
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
nice try
Not a great way of qualifying the current system.
Got anything else?
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11th April 2005 04:21 PM
#66
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
nice try
I still think its a fair request,
who is on the match committee anyway
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11th April 2005 04:28 PM
#67
Senior Member
Major Winner
Kev - if i may edit your post?
Originally Posted by
Onewood
who
from NSW is on the match committee anyway
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11th April 2005 05:08 PM
#68
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
Fishman Dan
It's either that or make the final ONLY worth the same amount. Can't say that the QLD final will be any more / less tense for any competitor.
I thought it was a pretty wholesome idea - i guess that's why there hasn't been any other replies
But the Qld winner (if not one of the top 3) would have won,one more match
Terry.
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11th April 2005 06:18 PM
#69
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
Onewood
who is on the match committee anyway
match committee for the Matchplay or for the POTY - thats two different and independant things !
Matchplay committee- whoever wants to is welcome. I do beleive Amanda has volunteered and Andyp goes without saying. Macleod is also putting something into this. So there you have 4 and thats a quorum.
POTY committee - the people that pay for the trophy are on this committee. Should anyone like to join the POTY committee please volunteer your donation, thanks!
The POTY committee decided that the money to be allocated to the Matchplay would be same as the normal pool. under the current method in a large field event, say 32, the 2nd and 4th place would get $31000 and $29000 respectively. Hardly adequate reward for going that one extra round in the matchplay.
Therefore the committee worked it out based on double money for each round, the end result was a bit more money for both qld and nsw.
If someone would like to research and post the breakdown for the World Matchplay Championship, i will adopt that method instead.
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11th April 2005 06:21 PM
#70
Senior Member
Major Winner
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12th April 2005 08:52 AM
#71
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
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12th April 2005 09:18 AM
#72
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Onewood
I was agreeing to the first round of the QLD matchplay being a
Qualifying round, as there where 3 bye's anyway, therefore not really a full round of 32
Now everything is evan QLD 16, NSW 16, Money the same :P
So...... if one of the recipients of the BYE's goes through to win, they should (on Tez's logic) effectively only receive the same amount of dough that NSW draw receives.
That's fair?
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12th April 2005 09:22 AM
#73
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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12th April 2005 09:42 AM
#74
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
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12th April 2005 09:43 AM
#75
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
jarro
what about the Victorians
there's only a handful of them ... should the winner of that comp get the same amount of money as the winner of the NSW division
i think the prizemoney has to be relative to the size of the field :P
Last i looked there wasn't a Victorian comp?
But here's an idea for the Vic's - make it a Round-Robin. After 4 games each, the winner is declared on a top of the table basis, with for-and-against.
That would be worth the $$$.
Sometimes you have to think outside your little bitty square Jarro
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