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    Gonzalez does have a bigger wind up but watch it when he comes through the elbow is tucked in that is something I teach and is technically correct. Federer doesn't keep that elbow tucked in on the back swing or follow through. His swing is alittle smaller but not compact, I call lendl/ Sampras forehand compact. You see gonzalez has a much higher follow through then federer sorry I have to disagree with you there. As long as you say federer's forehand isn't the best ever we can agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    What do you think of Gasquet's backhand? What a one hander that is.
    Stunning. Beautiful to watch. Easily one of the best on tour if he is playing well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhills2 View Post
    Stunning. Beautiful to watch. Easily one of the best on tour if he is playing well.

    For sure. I also like the Haas backhand a lot. Henin's on the womens side is just thee backhand for a one hander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomson View Post
    Gonzalez does have a bigger wind up but watch it when he comes through the elbow is tucked in that is something I teach and is technically correct. Federer doesn't keep that elbow tucked in on the back swing or follow through. His swing is alittle smaller but not compact, I call lendl/ Sampras forehand compact. You see gonzalez has a much higher follow through then federer sorry I have to disagree with you there. As long as you say federer's forehand isn't the best ever we can agree
    Gonzalez doesn't keep the elbow tucked in whatsoever on the backswing. Federer is actually lower and tighter (more compact) than Gonzo's on the windup.

    Agreed Gonzo is textbook thru impact with the tucked elbow.

    In the two single forehand vids i gave Fed follows thru above his left shoulder while Gonzo finishes below his. It's there on the vid. Granted Gonz is returning a slightly higher ball and this is a one off shot for each.

    Federer's forehand isn't the best ever technically, but effectiveness wise (where it counts) it's another matter entirely. McEnroe is just one of many who believes it's the best.

    I like Blake's for technique quite a lot. Really compact yet so powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    Gonzalez doesn't keep the elbow tucked in whatsoever on the backswing. Federer is actually lower and tighter (more compact) than Gonzo's on the windup.

    Agreed Gonzo is textbook thru impact with the tucked elbow.

    In the two single forehand vids i gave Fed follows thru above his left shoulder while Gonzo finishes below his. It's there on the vid. Granted Gonz is returning a slightly higher ball and this is a one off shot for each.

    Federer's forehand isn't the best ever technically, but effectiveness wise (where it counts) it's another matter entirely. McEnroe is just one of many who believes it's the best.

    I like Blake's for technique quite a lot. Really compact yet so powerful.
    Yes gonzo doesn't keep it tucked in but he gets his elbow high which is good. Then gets his elbow tucked in on impact. Big tick.

    Gonzo might end low but gets alot higher then fed does.

    I really think that the players haven't really exploited it. I think you might find someone will do this, I don't know who.
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    It's probably a bit late to start exploiting it now given he owns 16 grand slams. He's on the downslide now, tho he's had a decent lease of life the last 12 months. Who would be your model one and two handed backhands (either sex) for coaching kids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrisWesty View Post
    dhills, have you got a narwhal on your avatar?
    Could be. Could also be a dugong that has taped a foil to his forehead. Open to interpretation I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    It's probably a bit late to start exploiting it now given he owns 16 grand slams. He's on the downslide now, tho he's had a decent lease of life the last 12 months. Who would be your model one and two handed backhands (either sex) for coaching kids?
    I don't know if feds on the downslide thats another big call, thanks due to the likes of agassi players can play well into there 30's injury pending. I think unless another few serious contenders come along I think he might have another 2-3 years in him, I would not be suprised if this is his grandslam year, I know I know big call but I reckon he could do it.

    I like to think I don't model a swing of just one forehand or backhand. I like to show backswings and followthroughs of players that are technically correct and show students what to look for.

    Thats what my coaches did to me and I thought that was a good way to teach. Again I was very lucky to have some very good coaches teach me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomson View Post
    I don't know if feds on the downslide thats another big call, thanks due to the likes of agassi players can play well into there 30's injury pending. I think unless another few serious contenders come along I think he might have another 2-3 years in him, I would not be suprised if this is his grandslam year, I know I know big call but I reckon he could do it.
    He'd have to be post peak. You're right, his brilliance and the lack of an apparent heir will have him sitting nice for another few years.

    Interesting comment on the grand slam. His biggest hurdle (Nadal at the French) has been struggling a bit with injury and Fed may well get lucky there. It would be interesting how he would handle the incredible pressure if he got to the U.S. Open unbeaten in majors. The interest generated would be frightening, and not just around tennis circles. I hope you're right. It's certainly a chance.

    I like to think I don't model a swing of just one forehand or backhand. I like to show backswings and followthroughs of players that are technically correct and show students what to look for.
    Good point. Given a few rules of thumb their own style will evolve.

    Thats what my coaches did to me and I thought that was a good way to teach. Again I was very lucky to have some very good coaches teach me.
    Great call. What one handed backhands do you think stand out? I like Haas and Gasquet, tho Richard's super high backswing is anything but textbook. The Haas backhand is very pure.
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    I think he is at his peak now, how long he will stay there is another thing, you would also have to say how long does he want to be there playing. You never know he might just lose interest tomorrow and retire, which I hope he doesn't.

    You like you're backhands don't you. I used to show people that wanted to learn a good slice back hand was to look at steffi grafs, her drive backhand wasn't anyting flash or good, but her slice was really good, keeping the the elbow tucked in, kept her wrist out of it and great follow through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomson View Post
    I think he is at his peak now, how long he will stay there is another thing, you would also have to say how long does he want to be there playing. You never know he might just lose interest tomorrow and retire, which I hope he doesn't.
    Fair enough mate. He's pretty driven to extend his grand slam record i reckon.

    You like you're backhands don't you. I used to show people that wanted to learn a good slice back hand was to look at steffi grafs, her drive backhand wasn't anyting flash or good, but her slice was really good, keeping the the elbow tucked in, kept her wrist out of it and great follow through.
    Yeah, the backhand never came naturally to me where as my topspin forehand was quite decent and came naturally. Was always looking to shore up the backhand wing tho. I was never quite happy with it.

    Graf had the best slice backhand in mens or womens tennis for many years, what a great choice. She did have her moments on the drive, but it was never very natural for her. I think i remember her starting to come over it on returns and passes at Wimbledon vs Navratilova because Martina's great serve and volleying handled the slice very well.
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    Well **** me if Stosur didn't beat Serina las night!!!! Hennin and Serina in consecutive matches - bet that doesn't happen often. Go you good thing. She came in ranked 7th in the world I think. I reckon she'll finish this tourney ranked 4th....

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    Lets hope she can go on and win it. Fantastic effort so far....go Sammie!!!
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    Fairweather fans.

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    I reckon she'll finish this tourney ranked 4th....
    Why? She hasn't gained any points from last year's French Open yet.
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    Great win by Sammie. In that final set she just hung on, hung on, and hung on until her opportunity finally came. Williams threw everything at her. Hopefully Williams won't come out with a dodgy excuse for losing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueReview View Post
    Hopefully Williams won't come out with a dodgy excuse for losing.
    She was very gracious in defeat.

    "It was my match and I lost it. That's basically what happened," she told reporters.
    "She's a good player but I made so many errors and I definitely was nowhere near my best today."

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    She is world #1, losing is a shock. How/where do you watch the feed AP?





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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyD View Post
    She is world #1, losing is a shock. How/where do you watch the feed AP?
    A lot of the justin.tv pages just had dodgy links, so I went to atdhe.net. They had an ESPN feed with Pommy commentators. I needed to do refreshes on it often though, which got worse towards the end of the match. I cracked the shits with it, and found a justin.tv feed with French commentary. So I got to watch the tennis and learn some French.

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    stupid foxhel. I might give it a go. When is the semi being played?





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    It was fortunate that last night's match was first on court (2pm frog time, 10pm ours). I just checked and it's the second match on court tonight (somewhere in the midnight to 1am area). Hmmm, I should have a nap at my desk now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP View Post
    She was very gracious in defeat.

    "It was my match and I lost it. That's basically what happened," she told reporters.
    "She's a good player but I made so many errors and I definitely was nowhere near my best today."
    That's a perfect example of why I dislike the Williams' sisters so much. In their minds, they're never beaten by a better player on the day. There's always an excuse. Navratilova was another one. I recall after she lost a match in the 80s, she blamed the loss on picking up a bug from peanuts that a monkey had urinated on. Clever monkey.


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    Sam will be live on Ch 9.
    Giddy up!

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    Gonna have to stay up now.





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