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[peter_rs]

Here is a Hackers swing

I will repost pics in a second-Yahoo will host the files but does not like big downloads- thats why it was blocking access.

Any comments welcome.

I know I have a over swing problem.

[Onewood]

Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable!

Did'nt work Pete....

[Ona]

the iron swing worked for me

[peter_rs]

changing web host

[AndyP]

Ok guys its pics until I can fix my web hosting issuse.

Not working, Peter.
It appears that you have exceeded your data transfer quota.

[peter_rs]

Ok guys I have moved the files to zippy try again- sorry for the problems

9 iron swing 28/2/05 -vic park
http://www.zippyvideos.com/19198465885844.html

Driver swing 28/2/05-vic park
http://www.zippyvideos.com/20213978085854.html

[AndyP]

9 iron swing 28/2/05 -vic park
http://www.zippyvideos.com/19198465885844.html

When you looked back at the camera, I think you should have given us a little wave, as well.

[peter_rs]

Well besides not smiling is there no other advice out there for me. I guess my swing must be perfect

Bring on the comments

[Onewood]

OK pete, I think you could work on your tempo, you look a little jerky and you tend to be trying to murder that driver 9 Iron shot looks to be getting a little past parallel on the back swing...try toning the back swing down. Don't waste all your power on the way back, this is where you'll feel the tempo improve.

Have you had lessons

[peter_rs]

Yes I have be working with Geoff Smith from the OZ GOLF INSTITUTE
-Willawong driving range. 10 leasons now over 6 months (been playing for 3 years, two on a regular basis)- I have shortten my back swing up a lot (John Dally style). We both know my backswing could be shorter but I have a habit of having weak wrists at the top, which makes the problem look worse. Geoff is willing to let me have the overswing as long as I don't break my wrist.

Geoff is happy with my swing/setup/take away changes eg cut to a straight ball flight(small draw) etc (we are working on impact and follow through at present). From what he see on the range does not understand how I can shot 100 plus scores and my hcp has not dropped, I thing its time to play for a on course lesson but at $200 it hurts.

U noted murdering my driver(In that clip I wasn't). I have found I hit my best drives at 110% when I back off my tempo stuffs up and I lose my standard ball flight(don't go right-slice).

Thanks for the feedback more is welcome.

[AndyP]

From what he see on the range does not understand how I can shot 100 plus scores and my hcp has not dropped, ...

Why do you think that you shoot these high scores?

You have mentioned before that you always have the occasional shocking hole. Is this the result of several bad shots? Or just one or two, but you go for too much trying to recover?

BTW what is your AGU and Hacker's handicap?

[peter_rs]

Why do you think that you shoot these high scores?

AGU is 24.3
Hackers is 22

I do believe my home course the ridge-toowoomba has got the best of me and the reason for added 2 shots on my AGU because it is tight and unforgiving.

They otherthing I have noticed is I stuff up more when I do go for the safe recover shot (chipping to far through fairway or not fair enought ) or layup. Sometimes it is a brain flart a 4 putt (first one to long or short then go for the second to avoid a 3 putt).

I can handle the odd 8 if its my fault(perfer not to). I shoot rounds in the 90's with two or 3 8's alot, my lowest score is a 84 with a 10. The killer is I get to happy with a good driver(50-70m out on par 4) and stuff up the approach fat(divots half way to china) then kick myself for the rest of the hole.

I have been trying to avg 5 on every hole (90). I think I need abit more experience on course so I'm trying to play a twice a week(one comp round) I balance that with trying to get to the range once a week and putting/chipping once week.

[AndyP]

AGU is 24.3
Hackers is 22

Don't take any notice of the Hackers handicap. They adjust them differently, and rarely update them. I was just asking out of curiosity.

Sometimes it is a brain flart a 4 putt (first one to long or short then go for the second to avoid a 3 putt).

Aren't you trying to get every putt in? If so, why are you thinking about avoiding a three putt? It's just another putt.

Have you read any Dr. Bob Rotella's books? You might find them helpful. I have got quite a bit out of what I have read, and it has changed my mental attitude on the course.

[Ona]

im with Kev. this (above) should be your end position, without the bent left wrist. i think the sooner you can make yourself stop here, the sooner consistency can enter your ball striking. coming down it looks good to me, experts might see something tho. from there it looks like, might be an illusion, your have breakdown of the wrists. the bend in your right wrist looks to be gone at impact or very soon after. you come out of your posture some, but who doesnt eh. does your coach want you to have square hips at impact? from what ive seen, all the good strikers have, to varying degrees, open hips and shoulders at impact.

thats my two bob.

getting the flat left at the top is something im working on. recently realised mine was slightly bent because the right wrist was cocking (thumb closer to forearm). here is a drill thats working for me. get in address and without a club take your grip. now bend the right wrist back on itself (clap) untill the left is flat. now do your backswing with those wrist positions locked. do not allow any cocking of the right wrist (hand shake motion). at the top you'll have a flat left wrist.
this felt really arqward for a while but now it's great. its up to you when during your actual swing you set those wrist positions, but when you do this drill the feeling of having them locked all the way up really makes it easy to keep them that way all the way down.

sorry for the essay, im just excited about this stuff working for me.

[peter_rs]

AGU is 24.3
Hackers is 22

Don't take any notice of the Hackers handicap. They adjust them differently, and rarely update them. I was just asking out of curiosity.

Sometimes it is a brain flart a 4 putt (first one to long or short then go for the second to avoid a 3 putt).

Aren't you trying to get every putt in? If so, why are you thinking about avoiding a three putt? It's just another putt.

Have you read any Dr. Bob Rotella's books? You might find them helpful. I have got quite a bit out of what I have read, and it has changed my mental attitude on the course.

I know hackers is not much of a handicap but I still have played to it the last 3 months.

I had the Dr Bob tapes. Its not that I'm thinking 3 putt but keza will back me up here I leave more putts short then long(more so on courses I don't know) so if you for 20m away for 1 then 10m 2 after a bad putt, a 3 putt can be good. On some of the greens I play if the line is wrong you can have a second putt the same length as the first (break). Having said that even on a bad day I avg 36 putts- 26 on a good(I have worked a bit on my putting). But its the same thing if you don't get away from the tee well on long tight courses like the ridge on a 415m par 4 if you are 240m out and in the trees and can't go forward par is impossible.

I will say over the last months I have been shooting better scores even though I don't think I'm playing better- Thats why I think its a practise thing. It is rare for me to play two rounds on the same course in the same month so I always am having to adpt to the course. Thats why I join Ozgolf.net to get a group of people who play reg on reg courses.

[peter_rs]

Thanks Ona,

The essay is welcome, what program did you use to get the single frame from the avi?

A side on shoot would show more but I'm open a faction and my wrist does break through impact.

Its weird with all the work I have done and swing changes I have to different swings. A old one (bad) which is posted here, which is a fade with a 5 iron distance of 150m and my new swing which is straight(draw if I over do it) which has a 5 iron distance 175m(This swing has the straight left position at the top). The problem being until impact I don't now which I have used. So it can cause me to fly alot of greens if I'm having a bad day and both swings are in use.

Anyone got any good drills for shortening your swing?

Maybe its better to post a good swing and not the avg one.

[AndyP]

But its the same thing if you don't get away from the tee well on long tight courses like the ridge on a 415m par 4 if you are 240m out and in the trees and can't go forward par is impossible.

If one particular hole is troubling you, maybe you could play it a bit more conservatively, and aim to get on the green in three shots. Maybe use a safer club off the tee. You never know, you might stiff your approach, and still end up with par anyway.

Having said that even on a bad day I avg 36 putts- 26 on a good(I have worked a bit on my putting).

I don't think there is anything too wrong with 36 putts with your handicap. I certainly don't aim for 28 putts per round. I'm happy with 32 to 34.

It is rare for me to play two rounds on the same course in the same month so I always am having to adpt to the course. Thats why I join Ozgolf.net to get a group of people who play reg on reg courses.

Check out my golflink over the last year or so. I never play at the same course often.

[peter_rs]

Hi AndyP

On the conservatively thing- I tried that but not with much luck and decided if I going to be in trouble then be deep in trouble and a long way down. Not smart I know, but I do believe I play better going for my shots- I was more talking about that one in a million shot a high pop up or hitting over hanging limbs of tree near the tee box or the worm burner. All shots I have palyed. Having said that I do now when to back off and use a 3 wood, 2 or 3 iron. I just trust my driving.

On putting-I know I'm not bad but I do know I could pick up 2-3 shots a round easy.

Changing Course- Its not a problem changing course if they are in the same style eg parkland course with nice pace large greens. But when you play on the extremes things change tree lined fast small green (toowoomba-bribie miss the fairway and your on sand) or country courses with heavy slow greens and few trees so you can hit the ball two fairways over and still have a shot to the green, or you hit the right fairway but you ball is on dirt. I dont play the country course much anymore an example is rose wood. The joys of playing with social groups.

I think most of the course around brisbane have good greens(nice pace and size).[/code]

[Ona]

V1 Home - Basic (free)

[peter_rs]

Having a play with V1- did you use <alt><print screen> and MSpaint to join the images, the basic verision does not support printing.

I had written my own program to view my swing and draw lines

[Keza_G]

From what he see on the range does not understand how I can shot 100 plus scores and my hcp has not dropped, ...

Why do you think that you shoot these high scores?

Guys I think the reason Pete shoots high scores is the same reason most of us do.... ie short game. Having played with Pete on a few occasions now, I believe that from about 120m out, the ball is either simply not on the green and in the wrong bail out spot or 50ft from the flag...

When I first quit my job last year Pete, I spent 1 whole month just putting..... I went from 14 to 8 in that month.... my next routine was to spend 1 whole month hitting short irons..... (I just haven't had time to do this yet, but I intend to start very soon.)

I have now also read a few Dr Bob books..... BRILLIANT for the mind and for the confidence.

Hope the comments help mate

Cheers

Keza

[peter_rs]

Well that was nice of you keza, After Emerald Lakes you could have said more about my putting.

I am working on my short game-I use the practise green at vic park twice a week after work. I know the longer I get of the tee the more I need a short game. The problem is I have started to know the vir park green to well so I chip better. That is why I just trying to play more.

[Ona]

Having a play with V1- did you use <alt><print screen> and MSpaint to join the images, the basic verision does not support printing.

yes exactly

[markTHEblake]

you can use Virtual Dub to extract every single frame from an AVI, takes about 3 clicks of the mouse to do. its a free program, and can get it from http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net
basically its the ultimate video editing converting application.

[peter_rs]

Ok the swing as of last week.



And the LD swing as of last week





comments welcome.