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27th November 2009 06:07 PM
#1
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Last rules infringement you let slide.
Playing partner was breaking off branches so he could get a better swing at the ball.
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27th November 2009 06:09 PM
#2
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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27th November 2009 06:13 PM
#3
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
Ferrins
Playing partner was breaking off branches so he could get a better swing at the ball.
There is a difference between "backing into" a shot and having a branch snap and snapping them off deliberately.
If its the latter, let him have it as there is no room for cheats on the golf course
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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27th November 2009 09:06 PM
#4
Senior Member
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Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
There is a difference between "backing into" a shot and having a branch snap and snapping them off deliberately.
is there ?
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27th November 2009 10:48 PM
#5
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
3oneday
is there ?
13-2. Improving Lie, Area of Intended Stance or Swing, or Line
of Play
A player must not improve or allow to be improved:
• the position or lie of his ball,
• the area of his intended stance or swing,
• his line of play or a reasonable extension of that line beyond the
hole, or
• the area in which he is to drop or place a ball,
by any of the following actions:
• pressing a club on the ground,
• moving, bending or breaking anything growing or fixed (including
immovable obstructions and objects defining out of bounds),
• creating or eliminating irregularities of surface,
• removing or pressing down sand, loose soil, replaced divots or
other cut turf placed in position, or
• removing dew, frost or water.
However, the player incurs no penalty if the action occurs:
• in grounding the club lightly when addressing the ball,
• in fairly taking his stance,
• in making a stroke or the backward movement of his club for a
stroke and the stroke is made,
• in creating or eliminating irregularities of surface within the teeing
ground (Rule 11-1) or in removing dew, frost or water from the
teeing ground, or
• on the putting green in removing sand and loose soil or in repairing
damage (Rule 16-1).
Exception: Ball in hazard – see Rule 13-4.
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27th November 2009 06:11 PM
#6
Victorious Confederate Captain
Order of Merit winner
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27th November 2009 06:23 PM
#7
Member
Touring Pro (Von Nida Tour)
Originally Posted by
wbennett
Point of entry for a drop. He should have gone back to the tee but as he had 15 points after 15 holes, it was all academic really.
Im booked with you next week Benno - and im bringing my rules book!!
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27th November 2009 06:15 PM
#8
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
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27th November 2009 06:16 PM
#9
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
I've got to get tougher, I guess.
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27th November 2009 06:17 PM
#10
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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27th November 2009 06:19 PM
#11
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
I called a penalty on a partner once, problem is he was the club president and also on the state association's rules committee. It was on the 2nd hole and he didn't talk to me for the rest of the round.
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27th November 2009 06:22 PM
#12
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
I was aware but I was at the other side of the fairway and his next shot hit the tree's and went deep.
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27th November 2009 06:36 PM
#13
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
The ball moving whilst being addressed, this happens quite a bit and nobody calls themselves on it.
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27th November 2009 06:38 PM
#14
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
zacdullard
The ball moving whilst being addressed, this happens quite a bit and nobody calls themselves on it.
Read the rule on that though as its a bit of a tricky one IMO and cause an argument for 18holes with a group i played in with once haha
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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27th November 2009 06:43 PM
#15
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
Read the rule on that though as its a bit of a tricky one IMO and cause an argument for 18holes with a group i played in with once haha
I am confused by this one. I get the address on the putting green side of it, but what about on a full swing?
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27th November 2009 06:48 PM
#16
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
adlo
I am confused by this one. I get the address on the putting green side of it, but what about on a full swing?
My understanding is once you've taken a practice swing you have "started" your shot so if you then take your stance and the ball moves/falls off the tee it is classed as a shot???
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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27th November 2009 06:51 PM
#17
Member
Touring Pro (Von Nida Tour)
Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
My understanding is once you've taken a practice swing you have "started" your shot so if you then take your stance and the ball moves/falls off the tee it is classed as a shot???
Nope.
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27th November 2009 07:38 PM
#18
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
My understanding is once you've taken a practice swing you have "started" your shot so if you then take your stance and the ball moves/falls off the tee it is classed as a shot???
Incorrect.
The ball falling off the tee is not a penalty unless you have addressed and taken a swing at the ball.
If you knock the ball off the tee while addressing the ball, it is replaced with no penalty.
Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
That's whilst addressing the ball not after addressing it though so the ruling is different again.
A little confused by this. The act of addressing continues from when you take your stance until you begin your swing. The only thing "after" addressing it is the swing.
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27th November 2009 06:41 PM
#19
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
It's easy to let a minor discretion slip or get casual about where it should be dropped when they are already having a turd of a round.
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27th November 2009 07:29 PM
#20
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
AndyP
It's easy to let a minor discretion slip or get casual about where it should be dropped when they are already having a turd of a round.
I'm with you Andy, I understand the rules are there for a reason, but golf at our level is supposed to be fun. I couldn't care where a ball is dropped if they are not in contention.
Just get it back into play and keep moving.
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27th November 2009 07:34 PM
#21
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
senecio
I'm with you Andy, I understand the rules are there for a reason, but golf at our level is supposed to be fun. I couldn't care where a ball is dropped if they are not in contention.
Just get it back into play and keep moving.
That's all well and good but the problem with that is where do you draw the line???
If the person was in contention to win something you would pull him up but if he wasn't you would let it go even though chances are it would take the same amount of time for each player to proceed???
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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27th November 2009 07:41 PM
#22
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
grandmasterb
That's all well and good but the problem with that is where do you draw the line???
If the person was in contention to win something you would pull him up but if he wasn't you would let it go even though chances are it would take the same amount of time for each player to proceed???
If you're willing to turn an enjoyable Saturday morning round into a tense confrontation by telling a playing partner he has to go back 3m when he's going to be lucky to beat 30 points, then you play golf for different reason than I do.
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27th November 2009 07:43 PM
#23
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
senecio
If you're willing to turn an enjoyable Saturday morning round into a tense confrontation by telling a playing partner he has to go back 3m when he's going to be lucky to beat 30 points, then you play golf for different reason than I do.
I play by the rules and i dont see it as a tense confrontation unless thats what you make it. Normally i will ask them if they are aware of the ruling for future reference
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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27th November 2009 06:43 PM
#24
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Raking a bunker before a shot.
Mate went into bunker to get a rake and raked his foot prints (and others I gather) on the way out. Then went right to the other end of the bunker to play his shot. I asked him what he was doing raking the bunker? He didn't even seem to realise it was the same bunker or that he had done it. Put him on notice, but did not call a penalty. Think he wiped the hole in the end anyway.
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27th November 2009 06:44 PM
#25
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Originally Posted by
Daves
Raking a bunker before a shot.
Mate went into bunker to get a rake and raked his foot prints (and others I gather) on the way out. Then went right to the other end of the bunker to play his shot. I asked him what he was doing raking the bunker? He didn't even seem to realise it was the same bunker or that he had done it. Put him on notice, but did not call a penalty. Think he wiped the hole in the end anyway.
I played with a trainee pro at a club in Brisbane who did the same thing.
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