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30th November 2009 02:30 PM
#126
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30th November 2009 02:47 PM
#127
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Isn't the 460 the red headed step sister?
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30th November 2009 02:50 PM
#128
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Wasn't looking
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30th November 2009 04:43 PM
#129
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
Johnny Canuck
Isn't the 460 the red headed step sister?
If thats the case then its perfect to slap around the course
"SHANKS FOR THE MEMORIES"
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1st December 2009 12:33 AM
#130
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
I am not seeing anything that supports that, Decision 13-4/0.5 seems pretty clear (highlighted in bold).
Q. What is meant by “test the condition of the hazard” in Rule 13-4a?
A. The term covers all actions by which the player could gain more information about the hazard than could be gained from taking his stance for the stroke to be made, bearing in mind that a certain amount of digging in with the feet in the sand or soil is permitted when taking the stance for a stroke.
Examples of actions that would not constitute testing the condition of the hazard include the following:
• digging in with the feet for a stance, including for a practice swing, anywhere in the hazard or in a similar hazard;
• placing an object, such as clubs or a rake, in the hazard;
• leaning on an object (other than a club) such as a rake while it is touching the ground in the hazard or water in a water hazard;
• touching the hazard with an object (other than a club) such as a towel (touching with a club would be a breach of Rule 13-4b); or
• marking the position of the ball with a tee or otherwise when proceeding under a Rule.
Examples of actions that would constitute testing the condition of the hazard in breach of Rule 13-4a include the following:
• digging in with the feet in excess of what would be done for a stance for a stroke or a practice swing;
• filling in footprints from a previous stance (e.g., when changing stance to make a different type of stroke);
• intentionally sticking an object, such as a rake, into sand or soil in the hazard or water in a water hazard (but see Rule 12-1);
• smoothing a bunker with a rake, a club or otherwise (but see Exception 2 to Rule 13-4);
• kicking the ground in the hazard or water in a water hazard; or
• touching the sand with a club when making a practice swing in the hazard or in a similar hazard (but see Exception 3 to Rule 13-4). (New)
seems unambiguous. no raking before playing the shot.
come to think of it i vaguely remember 1 or 2 pros being penalised for their caddy raking before they've played their shot??
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6th December 2009 01:42 PM
#131
I turned a blind eye to a young 12 year old bloke in our group yesterday.
Marked his ball on the green with a tee (first no-no) which was near to my line so I asked him to change it with a regular marker.
So he picked up the tee and put the marker down without replacing the ball.
Blind eye turned.
Two holes later the club throwing, F Bombing and ball throwing started after bad putts. (ball throwing into the rough after putting out).
Then the mathematic errors started and he needed to be reminded of his correct score several times.
To be honest he became a pain in the arse and I will make every effort not to play with him again.
When we got back to the clubhouse we discover he has won C grade by a shot.........
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6th December 2009 01:43 PM
#132
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Why can't you use a tee ?
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6th December 2009 02:23 PM
#133
I was always told you couldnt use a tee or a pitch mark repairer as it could be deemed you were testiing the green.
I may be wrong, but I asked him to change to a normal marker as the tee was in my line.
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6th December 2009 02:46 PM
#134
Member
Touring Pro (Von Nida Tour)
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6th December 2009 02:59 PM
#135
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Pro's can't but amateurs can.
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6th December 2009 03:14 PM
#136
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
There is no penalty for using a tee to mark your ball on the green, but it is against the recommendations of best practice for marking the ball as per the Note following Rule 20.1.
Consciousness and awareness - awareness is being aware of what is happening and being aware of what is happening within ourselves while we are conscious. Where did I leave my glasses?
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6th December 2009 07:15 PM
#137
Cheers lads.
Always a font of information.
He still however didnt re-mark his ball correctly.
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6th December 2009 07:22 PM
#138
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
I use a tee when I play with Ray, as he has a tendency to pocket my coins.
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6th December 2009 07:29 PM
#139
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6th December 2009 07:55 PM
#140
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Touring Pro (PGA)
Originally Posted by
Ferrins
I use a tee when I play with Ray, as he has a tendency to pocket my coins.
Never seen you with a coin or money, whisper (never shouts).
Consciousness and awareness - awareness is being aware of what is happening and being aware of what is happening within ourselves while we are conscious. Where did I leave my glasses?
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6th December 2009 08:17 PM
#141
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Shandy for you, diet Fab for Shaun and lemon lime and bitters for Damien.
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22nd April 2011 07:15 AM
#142
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Pop up protection by running a strip of black electrical tape across the top of the crown.
Borrow a demo wood from the proshop and play a pearler of a round only to be DQed by a rules nazi
Q. Is it permissible to add tape or gauze to any part of the club?
A. During the round, the playing characteristics of the club may not be changed – see Rule 4-2a.
Prior to the player’s stipulated round, tape or gauze may be applied to the grip of the club provided the application of such materials does not create a waist or bulge – see Appendix II; Part 3.
Tape applied to the club head or shaft is an external attachment which renders the club non-conforming (see Appendix II; Part 1a). The following are exceptions to the prohibition against external attachments provided such applications are made prior to the player’s stipulated round:
Lead tape may be applied to the head or shaft of the club for the purpose of adding weight (see Decisions 4-1/4 and 4-2/0.5)
Tape may be applied to the shaft of the club to protect it.
Decals may be applied to the shaft for identification purposes. These decals may also be covered by clear tape.
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22nd April 2011 09:43 AM
#143
Senior Member
Major Winner
I don't get it. You can use lead tape (which would change the club's playing characteristics ) but not protective tape (which won't)?
All golf rules are stupid.
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22nd April 2011 10:18 AM
#144
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Champs weekend on the Friday. A very small, still growing plant/shrub was bent out of the way so that clear contact could he made with the ball.
It had no impact on anything, so there was no need to call it.
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22nd April 2011 10:21 AM
#145
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22nd April 2011 10:23 AM
#146
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
What do you mean, improving your lie?
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22nd April 2011 10:24 AM
#147
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22nd April 2011 10:26 AM
#148
You can attempt to take your regular stance though, can't you?
If a branch snaps, accidentally or otherwise, you're penalised as well, right?
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22nd April 2011 10:31 AM
#149
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
You can take your normal stance, you just have to take it in the least intrusive way. You aren't penalised if something breaks while this is occurring.
I was referring to bending a plant by hand when it was directly behind your ball.
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22nd April 2011 10:40 AM
#150
Oh. You love your rules.
I've got to find a more enjoyable and easier to read version of the rules. Is the decisions book the way to go gents?
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