What is YOUR most feared hole at your course?

[AndyP]

Which hole do you fear the most at your course?
The hole that seems to have a mental barrier you have trouble overcoming.
The hole that you step up to and wonder what the hell is going to happen this time.
This may not be the index 1 at your club, and may not necessarily be the hole that you have the most trouble with. It's the hole that you may have some confidence issues with.

Why does this hole trouble you? What grief has it caused you in the past?

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For me, it is the 14th hole at Nambour (Index 6).
It's a par 3, that usually has the tee markers placed between 170 and 180m, so in my opinion it's fairly long.
Although it plays slightly shorter as the tee shot is slightly downhill, with no danger in front of the green.

I would estimate that the green is about 10m wide by 15m long, so it's not a huge target.
There is a shallow trap on the right, and there's a metre drop around the back and sides of the green.

The killer for me is the cemetery (no pun intended), that is out-of-bounds on the right. It's something that is very intimidating from the tee area.
The OOB markers are only a few metres to the right of the tee box, and continues along the right side for the length of the hole, just passing the right hand side of the right trap. A small 1m wide drainage gully is just outside the line, and a line of trees just on the other side of that.
The gully won't put the ball back in play, but you make get lucky with one of the trees. But if it gets through the trees, you might see the ball get a bounce on the road and head up towards some graves.

The problem I have is that I slice the longer irons, and at 170m that's at least a 4 iron. I've seen many of my tee shots head OOB, and I think I might have even done it three times in a row once.
So now I find myself trying to counter this slice. I'll aim left (and stay there). I'll close the clubface. In fact last time I did both and found myself in the dam, short and left.
If I back myself and go at the flag now, I'm finding the resultant penalty from a bad shot is too great.

In desperation, I'm now considering the wuss option of running it into green, which the hole is quite open to. Just not sure that I can go through with it. It's either that, or try to take a bit off a 22° rescue shot.

I'm yet to birdie the hole. (Although I did have a putt for bird from 80cm [NTP] once. Doh!) And I still card 6s to 8s there sometimes. I would expect that I would have a very poor GIR % on the hole too.

I don't know if I hate the hole, but I can't help but worry every time I step onto the 14th tee.

[Bruce]

For me its the 2nd at Mildura. Index #1.

402m Par 4 with a dogleg to the right. The picture is taken from behind a guy who landed it in the right spot but I can never find it off the tee. The dogleg is at a fairly acute angle with deep trouble down the right for anyone trying to cut the corner. Having had to dig myself out of that too many times I now try erring to the left and keep finding myself going across the fairway and into the willows that line the left. I have *never* hit that GIR. I consider it a great day if I am putting for bogey on this hole.

[BrisVegas]

For me it's the 2nd at Brookwater. It's over 400 metres and doglegs left to right . It's slightly uphill and you need to be at least 250m and left side of the fairway to have a shot at the green. The right side is blocked out by bush. The fairway feeds left to right, so it forces you to hit a draw to fight the hill. Assuming you find the fairway, you have to hit around a large "feature" tree in the middle of the fairway at around 100m out. All along the right side is a scrubby water hazard which is only metres from the green edge. The left side has deep bunkers and scrub. I've only hit it in regulation a couple of times and birdied it only once, in an ambrose. Strong hole.

[Fishman Dan]

Casino's 4th - About 340m Par 4. Straight, veers to the left a little at about 100m from the hole. Looks simple from the tee.

The tee shot is over a pond (isn't in play), and the landing area is extremely wide. But you need to set yourself up for the 2nd shot - depending on distance is usually 7-iron to wedge. The green is stupidly narrow, much wider (maybe 10m?) and raised by about 5 feet at the back, with an algae filled creek 10 metres behind the end of the green. The left-side of the green is guarded by a large trap - which means you want to be right-side of the fairway off the tee or the trap is in play for your 2nd shot.

If you're in the right-rough off the tee, then you have some big gums to miss on your approach - overcook it and that bunker is back in play. To the right of the green is long grass/swales, so a miss that side isn't easy either. If you wind up in the trap, you have no shot other than to the back of the green because the front is so narrow - 2 metres at the front, and widens as it goes back? And being a country course, the quality of the trap can vary, and it's likely you'll have a gritty lie.

[Speirsy11]

Thats easy.......Same hole on every course.....

19th

It gets me everytime....some worse then others, but I ALWAYS seem to make double bogey there.......

Speirsy11

[AndyP]

For me it's the 2nd at Brookwater.

Any of the holes at City GC worry you, Vegas?


Bruce, are you from the Mildura area?
edit: Just noticed that your parents are up there. I'll be visiting mine in Swan Hill this year. Have you played Murray Downs before?

[BrisVegas]

For me it's the 2nd at Brookwater.

Any of the holes at City GC worry you, Vegas?

Yeah, the 1st. Nearly always bogey it, or worse...

[Ona]

6th - rated 3. HATE this hole double it 20% of the time and never birdie the bugger

short, 323m, par 4 with a fall all the way along the left side. one tree on the left of the ball swallowing kind at about 160-170 from the tree. fairway narrows (trees) at about 220 and the green is kidney shaped with a bunker in the gap on the right. everything feeds to the left off the bunker and into the valley. the opening to the green is about 4m wide with the fall about 2m off the left edge.

I usually play something like 4i - 91. you can leak the tee shot right, but then you have to clear a very tall tree and your angle to the green is terrible. pull the tee shot left and it'll either be stuck in a tree or if you clear that, it will up the ass of another. the tee box slopes so that for a right hander the ball is above your feet, for me making a draw almost inevitable and a hook likely. the fairway kicks your ball left so if you land in the middle somewhere it usually ends up left side, which is definitely a better angle to come in from. the quality of the grass on the left doesn't make the next any easier.

the second shot is the killer for me. Im no good at the fade ball, so usually my shots hit the green and kick left into the valley, from there you have to try to run it up the slope, through the rough and under some trees. the pin is usually on the left near the front, hardly ever behind the bunker, which is where I'd always aim if I had any discipline. I am starting to get better at erring long, but with my little draw still ends up left on most occasions.

did I mention I HATE THIS HOLE

[Trung]

The 2nd hole at my course.

Length 408m without a single bunker... I'm averaging more than 5.4 with gametrack



Need to hit 230+ with a right to left tee shot. Anything right is in the trees as the fairway feeds down to the right.

[Bruce]

For me it's the 2nd at Brookwater.

Any of the holes at City GC worry you, Vegas?


Bruce, are you from the Mildura area?
edit: Just noticed that your parents are up there. I'll be visiting mine in Swan Hill this year. Have you played Murray Downs before?

Minor thread jack.

Mildura is definitely "home" for me. I grew up playing on there. Dad is a former President. Mum and Dad now live backing onto the 5th fairway.

Never played at any Swan Hill courses. It's a 2.5 hour drive from Swan Hill to Mildura. Everyone just assumes they are down the road from each other.

[AndyP]

Never played at any Swan Hill courses. It's a 2.5 hour drive from Swan Hill to Mildura. Everyone just assumes they are down the road from each other.

I knew it was a bit of a drive. Just like it will be a bit of a drive, if I want to play some of the other nice courses along the Murray.
I might start a thread on the Murray courses when it gets closer to my Vic holiday.

[Jarro]

i always seem to have trouble with our 12th hole ... a Par 5.

It has OOB all down the left side .. and trees all down the right, making a straight tee shot the only way to play.It also has a creek that runs across it at about 300 meters .... so if you don't get a good tee shot away, you still have the creek to get across.

Standing on the tee it doesn't look THAT difficult, but i always seem to find a way to screw it up

[McMw]

stats wise, it's the 8th (index1)
that's prob becoz I can either slice it onto the road oobs, or hook it into the range oobs...

but it's a straight away par4...not too long...
good drive and a 6/7/8 iron in most time...

probably the 16th, (index 16 - yeah right)...
230yard par3...always with trailing left to right wind or headwind...
not easy to hit the green...and many members have to take driver off the tee...

I can play all the holes well, so not really a problem...
just on that day...

[Jarro]

probably the 16th, (index 16 - yeah right)...
230yard par3..

Mau ....

.. are the distances at your course done in yards or meters

[McMw]

yards, and we're the only one in Brunei that does it...

I think the committe are hung up on the fact that we're the shortest club in brunei, and so by switching over to yards, that it gives the perception that's it's not a short course...

having said that, with several par4s at over and close to 400yards, and two unreachable par5s (I've only hit the 4th 3 times)...

[terryand]

I wouldn't say I fear any holes at Windaroo.

But there are a couple that seem to have me stumped ATM.

The 1st a par 5....keep pulling it OB.

The 2nd par 4 400ish.....see above.

And the 16th for obvious reason.... for those that know the hole,no more needed saying

Terry.

[markTHEblake]

This is brilliant stuff. Cant wait to play with you blokes at your home course, or indeed any course.

like "Hey Andy, this looks just like the 14th at Nambour dont you think?"

[jimandr]

As MarkTHEblake has hinted, the last thing we should be doing is reinforcing our fears and insecurities by writing them down.

I don't need to recognise my greatest weakness of the long par 3 with trouble on the left side. It used to be the 3rd at Port Kembla, then the 11th at New Brighton, the 13th at Rosnay, and now its the 16th at Camden Valley. It's rated number 7, but I'm sure I've recorded more doubles than at any other hole. i have seriously considered laying up with a wedge to stay away from the left side hazard. My main tactic at the moment is to take enough club to clear it, then hope to hold the back edge if I fluke a straight one.

[AndyP]

As MarkTHEblake has hinted, the last thing we should be doing is reinforcing our fears and insecurities by writing them down.

I'm writing my fear down so I can confront it.
I'll now leave this fear in cyberspace, and never have a problem with the hole again.

Was that believable?

[cazandpaul]

The 10th (index 1) at Burleigh is a 418m par 4 off the blues (usually plays just over 400). If you get a good drive away you may get a kick off a downslope and leave a shorter iron in - if your drive is a little off you pitch into an upslope leaving a much longer second to a well protected green with only a narrow entrance.

Huge green (maybe 2-3 clubs) so hitting the green does not ensure a 2 putt.

Happy with a 5 here anytime especially if its the first hole of the day.

[Onewood]

Lately for me it's any 18th hole I tend to finish with double bogey a lot on all courses

[AndyP]

For me, it is the 14th hole at Nambour (Index 6).
It's a par 3, that usually has the tee markers placed between 170 and 180m, so in my opinion it's fairly long.

When I played there on Saturday, I saw the new tee complex that they are setting up for this hole. They've taken it back into the trees and from the back markers, it will now measure at 195m. Gulp!
It will be ready for the Town of Nambour Open.

FWIW I don't recall hitting it OOB on this hole recently.

[Coffs_Hacker]

In Coffs the par3 19th 205 from whites 215 from blues, creek 5mts from the front of the green, bunkers left and right of the green and a drop off past it, don't think i have ever made par

[Trung]

"white hairy legs"... Those are Jarros..

[TS]

In Coffs the par3 19th 205 from whites 215 from blues, creek 5mts from the front of the green, bunkers left and right of the green and a drop off past it, don't think i have ever made par

Coffs. I agree with you on that Par 3 in Coffs Harbour. I thought about laying up short of the creek, but then decided to take the green on and make double.