Kristian's swing

[virge666]

It's not how early he does it. More important is how far into the downswing he does it. Love his swing.

not a fan mate - You have to be a Yoga master and power lifter to get that kind of lag and still be wide on the down swing.

Way easier ways to swing the club than his.

[KristianJ]

not a fan mate - You have to be a Yoga master and power lifter to get that kind of lag and still be wide on the down swing.

Way easier ways to swing the club than his.

Yeah...no doubt that DJ does stuff that nobody could get close to.

Who out there should I be looking at? Question based on Jono's gifs and his choice of DJ instead of someone else who may have a similar move in that area of the downswing. Schwartzel's seems similar, hence why I mentioned him a few posts back.

[Jono]

not a fan mate - You have to be a Yoga master and power lifter to get that kind of lag and still be wide on the down swing.

Way easier ways to swing the club than his.

Don't quite follow. His lag and his width is no more than say that of Davis Love III who is neither a yoga master or a power lifter. I think it has more to do with technique.

[virge666]

Don't quite follow. His lag and his width is no more than say that of Davis Love III who is neither a yoga master or a power lifter. I think it has more to do with technique.

Rubbish, look at the legs on both.

Totally different lower halfs

[Jono]

Rubbish, look at the legs on both.

Totally different lower halfs

Yeah, but your original statement was "You have to be a Yoga master and power lifter to get that kind of lag and still be wide on the down swing."

Anyway, as to his leg action, I love it. If I was flexible enough, I'd try to copy his leg action. I'd still try to learn from the sequencing of his leg action though.

[timah!]

There was an interesting article in golf digest a few months ago about DJ and his workouts. Worth a read if you can find it.

[virge666]

Yeah, but your original statement was "You have to be a Yoga master and power lifter to get that kind of lag and still be wide on the down swing."

Exactly - his legs are strong enough to hold all that grunt coming down... and he is flexable enough to wrap the thing around his neck and from a great height. His left leg hardly moves !!!!!!!

That swing is a pure athletic move through the ball... you cannot teach nor copy it, just amaze at it.

[KristianJ]

A couple of vids from today. Main things that sticks out for me is that I still can't get that right elbow where it should be, and I think I could look better at the finish, but I'm happier with my posture at address.

Didn't occur to me to work on my waggles though.

[matty]

The vids just go black. Got audio though.

[virge666]

KJ, What you working on ?

[matty]

looks pretty good. too good for me to comment on.

[Peppas]

I like the outfit. Very dashing.

[KristianJ]

KJ, What you working on ?

In no particular order:

- Good impact position and taking a proper divot (which is probably easier to assess on grass). I hit too many thin shots with my irons - whether it's because I tend towards being a little flippy or coming up and out of it early I don't know, but I want to be a lot more consistent in getting good compression on the ball.
- Right elbow. Still not where it should be.
- Just using that lower body properly and coordinating everything as well as I can.

I like what's happening up until the transition, but just bits and pieces of the rest of it that look a little ragged.

A couple of lessons are in the pipeine for a month or 2's time.

[KristianJ]

I'm going to get started reading Hogan's Five Fundamentals...mainly because I found this on Youtube and couldn't help but think how common sense it is (plus actually doing it at the range produced quite good results).



I wish there was a computer based form of the Fundamentals app that Virge had on his iPad and was looking through while we were at Sydney Airport pre-Champs last year.

[Bushka]

Might have a look for that app sounds great. I like your tempo compact and consistent seem pretty balanced.

[virge666]

In no particular order:

- Good impact position and taking a proper divot (which is probably easier to assess on grass). I hit too many thin shots with my irons - whether it's because I tend towards being a little flippy or coming up and out of it early I don't know, but I want to be a lot more consistent in getting good compression on the ball.
- Right elbow. Still not where it should be.
- Just using that lower body properly and coordinating everything as well as I can.

I like what's happening up until the transition, but just bits and pieces of the rest of it that look a little ragged.

A couple of lessons are in the pipeine for a month or 2's time.

Your swing looks good... you just dont have a low point in the right place... and you are not flippy at all. Your elbow is also fine...

Use your software to watch you swing in a continuous loop.

After about 6 or 7 views you will see the pattern of you hitting UP on the ball. That is the bad bit, you need to hit down on it. A lot more than you do. It is not from coming out of it, or anythign simple like that... it is just the condition of your swing.

If you move the ball back 2 inches, you will stripe everything.

Look up Foley's right foot back drill. and any of the STack and Tilt versions of it. Also hit some balls off a downhill lie and sidehill lie. You can maybe hit some fairway bunker 7 and 6 irons.

Pretty easy to sort out mate... there isnt much wrong there.

[KristianJ]

I've been working at the range on ball position and getting the ball 2 inches back. It definitely has made a difference to the quality of my ball striking, although I still need to get in a comp round and put it to the test. Foley back foot drill is helping a little too, although I don't think I'm getting my back foot out enough to really feel the hip turn.

Plus I'm working on my finish and being a bit taller, which seems to be flowing through into how balanced I am in the follow through.

Some time this week I'll try and get some more video.

[xe1]

In the first video what was the shot shape like to the next two shots?

[KristianJ]

In the first video what was the shot shape like to the next two shots?

Which set of vids? Either way, I really can't remember, to be honest.

Generally though I find that I'm more of a natural drawer with my irons than fader.

[xe1]

The last set of vid's.

[KristianJ]

Jono, do you still happen to have that vid you took last Sunday? If you do, any chance of uploading it to Sendspace or another file sharing site so I can have a closer look at it?

There are a couple of things I'm keen to revisit, especially after looking at swings of other golfers whose right elbows are behind them a little (particularly Lee Westwood).

[KristianJ]

Setting up a drawing board to go back to...

[davepuppies]

Looking at your videos, and reading your comments, you hit a draw with your irons, but have less than ideal impact conditions, hence the moons balls?

What changes with your driver to hit a slice?

Hitting slightly up on the ball is a good thing with driver?

Is your upper body turning faster than your lower body?

[virge666]

Looking at your videos, and reading your comments, you hit a draw with your irons, but have less than ideal impact conditions, hence the moons balls?

What changes with your driver to hit a slice?

Hitting slightly up on the ball is a good thing with driver?

Is your upper body turning faster than your lower body?

I watched this swing for a 4 and a bit hours on Sunday.

It is way too much from the inside and flipping. This gives him the high ball flight - the massive block right and the odd snap.

It is pure clubshaft path. Look up drills to get the club shaft in front of the body and use the body to release the clubhead.


if you get bored or you are in the Northern Beaches neighborhood.... happy to help.

[matty]

Anyone having a hit at Narrabeen tomorrow night?