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    Yep ...Jono's stills tell the story . You want your backswing to have the shaft pointing inside the ball to target line. One, because it makes the club feel light and two because the shaft will parallel the ball target line when the shoulders are coiled 90*. If you maintain clubhead lag (retain the wrist set) and start the transition in sequence (lower body leading) then the swing will flatten bringing the butt of the shaft to point at the ball target line and then the ball (which means it is on plane) before it unloads into impact. Provided of course the timing is right.
    So my man, the answer is turn and lift with the thumbs pointing upwards and the forearms rotating just enough to achieve a 45* angle of the shaft during the lifting phase. You will notice immediately how light the club feels because the pull of gravity now runs through the shaft and not the clubhead as is presently the case.
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    Cool, something solid to work on there. Thanks again guys. I will post updates next week.

    Raz, a little unsure what this means though:

    achieve a 45* angle of the shaft during the lifting phase.
    Any help?
    Last edited by adlo; 5th September 2009 at 12:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adlo View Post
    Cool, something solid to work on there. Thanks again guys. I will post updates next week.

    Raz, a little unsure what this means though:



    Any help?
    90* is vertical 45* is halfway between vertical and horizontal. Your swing in the vid is about 20*. I can see in the final phase of your backswing you are making an adjustment using the wrists by hinging the left rather than c0cking. Hinging is when the wrist flexes or extends; c0cking is when the wrist stays flat and their two movements are called radial and ulnar deviation. You seem to have achieved the latter with the right wrist and flexed the left wrist. This will give the shaft a steeper angle for the downswing (which is what is occuring) but it also gets the clubhead outside the hands when it should be trailing well behind the hands. That is a major power leak in itself....all caused by a lift and turn action at the start which starts the shaft off plane.

    In your case it is important that you have the left wrist flat at the top and the right wrist semi flexed to have the clubhead trailing the hands into impact. You may have to put some padding on that fridge with your new action.
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    adlo, i'm a little concerned about you hitting balls in the garage like that.

    You could injure yourself if an errant shot rebounds of the edge of that cupboard
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    @ Razaar. I will not pad the fridge, I will melt holes in the side of that thing for fun!

    Thanks Raz for the explanation. Playing golf this morning, so will start focussing on this stuff next week.

    Jarro, the balls I am hitting are harmless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Courty View Post
    Not me.

    I hit the bamboo.
    Me either I was safe both days.
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    Jono, what happens is, I MELT the golf ball with such a pure strike and it turns into harmless rubber.

    Was a bit of a mess on the course today. Started very well just focussing on the head down and hip leading the swing. Hit the ball very nice, and easily 10-15m longer. However, the brain got a bit strained and game turned to crap. Anyway, I'll get stuck into this takeaway business now.
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    Razaar, you said look for an Els DTL swing, will this do?
    Like this?
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    compare your hands and clubface angle vs. Els' on his takeaway




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    I am you canadian fool.
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    Yep.. two things to look at - the angle of the shaft on the way to the top and how long he keeps his head back behind the ball after impact.
    http://www.pgatour.com/swingplex/00/65/22/index.html
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    Els does a little move to start his downswing which Hogan used to do - pushes his hands further back and lowers them behind him. David Toms does the same move but not as pronounced as Els.
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    Cool.

    I am looking at the shaft angle, and I did notice his head staying back a LOOONG time.
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    get him trying all that Ray. he'll miss the fridge altogether and hopefully hit himself in the pills on the rebound off the wall.




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    There is a tarp up at the moment with a switch to shade cloth happening soon.

    Sorry fwend.
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    i'll come by and check out the setup when i pick up my mat, buddy.




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    Cool. Still interested in getting a net if I am going to hit real pills. The link that Tex posted looked the goods, but the shade cloth should do for now.
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    what are you hitting into them at the moment?




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    They are like a golf ball hacky sack hybrid.'

    I love hybrids remember.
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    It figures that you have hybrid balls....

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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    90* is vertical 45* is halfway between vertical and horizontal. Your swing in the vid is about 20*. I can see in the final phase of your backswing you are making an adjustment using the wrists by hinging the left rather than c0cking. Hinging is when the wrist flexes or extends; c0cking is when the wrist stays flat and their two movements are called radial and ulnar deviation. You seem to have achieved the latter with the right wrist and flexed the left wrist. This will give the shaft a steeper angle for the downswing (which is what is occuring) but it also gets the clubhead outside the hands when it should be trailing well behind the hands. That is a major power leak in itself....all caused by a lift and turn action at the start which starts the shaft off plane.
    Razaar, any tips in achieving this? Have been giving myself a headache today trying to get the shaft more vertical on the backswing and eliminating the lift and turn action.

    Looking at the videos of my swing today I appear to be achieving very little
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    Adlo it has to be a one piece take away to hip height then get the thumbs pointing upwards, keep turning and lifting the arms c0cking the wrists (not hinging them, the shaft stays in line with the left forearm). It is a good idea to take note of the shaft angle at address and get the left arm in a parallel position to that angle at the top with a flat left wrist and both wrists under the shaft, This is the perfect plane position at the top which doesn't need any corrections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adlo View Post
    They are like a golf ball hacky sack hybrid.'

    I love hybrids remember.


    Adlo - is this what you're using?

    floppy_and_box_21.jpg


    hardly make you feel manly would it?

    "hey 'darl I'm just going out to the garage to play with my floppy"
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    Nothing gets past you simmsy

    Razaar, the video chopped the top of the swing off, but here is a still of my takeaway trying to get the shaft closer to 45 degrees and stop the wrist breakdown. What do you think?
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