Ebay bargains.

[hocko]

I still can't understand how sellers can get away with selling fakes?
Isn't this upposed to be illegal?

[Daves]

I still can't understand how sellers can get away with selling fakes?
Isn't this upposed to be illegal?

It is all a bit too hard it seems hocko. Ebay would need an army of staff to be pro active on it, so they are purely reactive with a very limited staff. Report a seller and they will eventually pull them if it is obvious they are fakes, if further investigation is needed it probably won't happen. Same with the Police, they simply don't have the time and resources, and it is a not a priority from their masters point of view so they don't get involved. Customs and the AFP are really the only ones that seems to take any limited interest, and they are after the big fish anyway.

[3oneday]

Non golfers probably don't know they are fakes. Have a look at all the threads that get started about buying off this and that site on the internet. It all "looks" real in the pictures.

Also, how many people are really good enough to tell by looks and performance ? Maybe 5 to 10% of buyers, at a wild guess.

[hocko]

It is all a bit too hard it seems hocko. Ebay would need an army of staff to be pro active on it, so they are purely reactive with a very limited staff. Report a seller and they will eventually pull them if it is obvious they are fakes, if further investigation is needed it probably won't happen. Same with the Police, they simply don't have the time and resources, and it is a not a priority from their masters point of view so they don't get involved. Customs and the AFP are really the only ones that seems to take any limited interest, and they are after the big fish anyway.

Non golfers probably don't know they are fakes. Have a look at all the threads that get started about buying off this and that site on the internet. It all "looks" real in the pictures.

Also, how many people are really good enough to tell by looks and performance ? Maybe 5 to 10% of buyers, at a wild guess.

You are both right, it just shits me that people get away with it.
I would suggest it is probably a fairly profitable business though!

[Daves]

You are both right, it just shits me that people get away with it.
I would suggest it is probably a fairly profitable business though!

They say it is all pretty much ultimately run by organised crime and it one of their largest revenue lines!

[hocko]

They say it is all pretty much ultimately run by organised crime and it one of their largest revenue lines!

Is that right! Where has this information come from?

[Daves]

Is that right! Where has this information come from?

There are a few documentaries on the subject of counterfeits, plus a number of articles, some golf specific, that state this. I will see if I can find some links for you.

[Daves]

There are a few documentaries on the subject of counterfeits, plus a number of articles, some golf specific, that state this. I will see if I can find some links for you.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...gs-500700.html

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fakers-dea...430-1e20j.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37824347?__source=vty

[Johnny Canuck]

Hocko, here's an article from not too long ago about a big bust http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225837430759 .

There was also a very interesting video floating around where they were actually walking the streets of China and confiscating the fake gear from various illegal shops. The problem was, as quickly as they would shut one down, another would open.

I'm pretty sure it was linked through this site. Hopefully someone can point you to it. Interesting stuff.

You might get busted trying to sell black miuras!

[excelboy]

Top work 3OD

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-NEW-TAY...item588e4d4074

[gazgolf1]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Adams-Ide...#ht_500wt_1156

Cheap?

[Daves]

Top work 3OD

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-NEW-TAY...item588e4d4074

I am surprised no one has yet bid on 3ODs listing! And yep, nice work!

[Ferrins]

He bought the Adams second hand, I reckon. No face shots, bit suss.

[3oneday]

Top work 3OD

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-NEW-TAY...item588e4d4074

I am surprised no one has yet bid on 3ODs listing! And yep, nice work!

I have 4 watchers, and I'm not selling anything

[MegaWatty]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Adams-Ide...#ht_500wt_1156

Cheap?

I'd be paying less the $100 to get new ones.

[Ferrins]

I have 4 watchers, and I'm not selling anything

Best offer?

[rubin]

I'm surprised it's till on there. Would have thought it would have been brought down by now.

[MegaWatty]

http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-...AdIdZ287365565

Nut?

[MegaWatty]

http://gumtree.com.au/c-ViewAd?AdId=277880227

[3oneday]

This closing down sale had me, until I saw the plastic on the R11 grips, naughty naughty http://shop.ebay.com.au/red_ed75/m.h...id=p4340.l2562

[Captain Nemo]

I have 4 watchers, and I'm not selling anything

Love it 3, one of your best!!

[Daves]

Hocko, here's an article from not too long ago about a big bust http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225837430759 .

There was also a very interesting video floating around where they were actually walking the streets of China and confiscating the fake gear from various illegal shops. The problem was, as quickly as they would shut one down, another would open.

I'm pretty sure it was linked through this site. Hopefully someone can point you to it. Interesting stuff.

You might get busted trying to sell black miuras!

Some of the most common fraud in banking revolves around "pidgeons" being recruited in Casinos and the like. Did their arse on the tables and someone offers them a quick way to get their money back and more via opening a dodgy account, or selling their "lost" card and pin, or some other arms length act of deception that keeps the real criminals from being detected. Most of this is ultimately linked back to organised crime. I suspect that funding for the counterfeiters probably comes from similar sources, ditto for the web sites etc, and I suspect a lot of the shonky eBay sellers get the idea in the same way as the bank fraudsters work.

[damoocow]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-NEW-TAY...5fb0e50b6#shId

These are cheap .....

[3oneday]

Yep, get stuck in. They've gone from $199 Best Offer to $239, once he sold about 30 on the last listing.

[damoocow]

Yep, get stuck in. They've gone from $199 Best Offer to $239, once he sold about 30 on the last listing.

Can't tell if you're sarcastic or genuine ? - Have you been watching him? Only worry for me is being authentic [only want the 5 wood - will sell the other on]