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28th April 2009 03:52 PM
#201
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28th April 2009 03:53 PM
#202
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JC and Adlo, what is your general opinion of blind shots?
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28th April 2009 03:54 PM
#203
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same photo twice? if i print them, put them on top of each other and flip through will it look like something is moving?
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28th April 2009 03:56 PM
#204
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Originally Posted by
Scottt
JC and Adlo, what is your general opinion of blind shots?
it depends on the hole and the amount. the cut is filled with them, but it isn't one of my major complaints.
i have to play many blind shots each round when i hit behind trees.
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28th April 2009 03:58 PM
#205
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i had two of the same pic on my screen when i wrote that message. you must have edited it quickly so that you didn't get the edited message!
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28th April 2009 04:00 PM
#206
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28th April 2009 04:09 PM
#207
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Originally Posted by
jarro
What the hell are all those little white dots along the fairway ?
Bitches. there are 115 of them spread throughout the course.
Nice photos 69!
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28th April 2009 04:13 PM
#208
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Canuck
Bitches. there are 115 of them spread throughout the course.
Looks like a bit of overkill to me.
If you happen to land in one, do you have any chance of advancing the ball more then 50 meters ?
Originally Posted by sms316
Without rules there is anarchy.
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28th April 2009 04:15 PM
#209
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28th April 2009 04:28 PM
#210
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Originally Posted by
jarro
Looks like a bit of overkill to me.
If you happen to land in one, do you have any chance of advancing the ball more then 50 meters ?
Hope not. The bunker as a legitimate hazard is a thing of beauty.
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28th April 2009 04:33 PM
#211
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Originally Posted by
jarro
Looks like a bit of overkill to me.
If you happen to land in one, do you have any chance of advancing the ball more then 50 meters ?
For the most part, no.
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28th April 2009 04:39 PM
#212
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Originally Posted by
golfer69
still think that removing the two bunkers on the right would make that hole far better, would entice driver off the tee for some
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.............
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28th April 2009 04:41 PM
#213
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Why are there so many bunkers? (serious question)
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28th April 2009 04:51 PM
#214
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Originally Posted by
Bruce Dickinson
still think that removing the two bunkers on the right would make that hole far better, would entice driver off the tee for some
Not really. You would then have to navigate a 90 degree dogleg at a minimum 45 degree angle, 240 out. The rough comes up so quickly at then end of the fairway that you really wouldn't gain much at all from hitting driver. Everything hit long will run through the fairway and will be lost, or you end up back at the tee as there is nowhere to drop.
If you play the course, it doesn't feel like bunker overkill at all. Keeps it a thinking man's game.
The odd bunker will present some risk reward, but you need to land in the front part for sure.
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28th April 2009 05:01 PM
#215
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Canuck
Not really. You would then have to navigate a 90 degree dogleg at a minimum 45 degree angle, 240 out. The rough comes up so quickly at then end of the fairway that you really wouldn't gain much at all from hitting driver. Everything hit long will run through the fairway and will be lost, or you end up back at the tee as there is nowhere to drop.
If you play the course, it doesn't feel like bunker overkill at all. Keeps it a thinking man's game.
The odd bunker will present some risk reward, but you need to land in the front part for sure.
there's no thought in that tee shot though because the five bunkers in a line are like a brick wall, its 3 wood and then long iron to the green.
If driver makes the second shot 20 metres shorter its a big plus as the second's into the wind most times? I played with Adlo and hit 3 wood, 2 iron on a reasonably calm day.....
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.............
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28th April 2009 05:20 PM
#216
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You can still cut the corner with a longer drive, you just carry the bunkers, which allows you to take a sharper angle and have more landing area. I don't hit driver now because I end up in the back trees as it is.
If you eliminate the two end bunkers, you have about 20 metres to stop your ball before it is in the scrub. 20 downhill metres on Kennedy fairways is like a 10 foot putt. The only way to play it from that angle would be to try and carry the second or third bunker, which is exactly what you have to do right now. Elminating those bunkers would lead to more golfers blowing it through the fairway and higher scores.
From the club selection that you had, you must have hit your tee shot well right of centre. Adam says you hit a longer ball, so if you were hitting two iron, you were either hitting into a decent wind, or were well right. If you keep it to the centre or left of it, you can hit 6 or 7 iron in.
The hole demands a well struck, accurate tee shot. If you don't hit it, you will have a lot of club in.
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28th April 2009 05:33 PM
#217
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Canuck
You can still cut the corner with a longer drive, you just carry the bunkers, which allows you to take a sharper angle and have more landing area. I don't hit driver now because I end up in the back trees as it is.
If you eliminate the two end bunkers, you have about 20 metres to stop your ball before it is in the scrub. 20 downhill metres on Kennedy fairways is like a 10 foot putt. The only way to play it from that angle would be to try and carry the second or third bunker, which is exactly what you have to do right now. Elminating those bunkers would lead to more golfers blowing it through the fairway and higher scores.
From the club selection that you had, you must have hit your tee shot well right of centre. Adam says you hit a longer ball, so if you were hitting two iron, you were either hitting into a decent wind, or were well right. If you keep it to the centre or left of it, you can hit 6 or 7 iron in.
The hole demands a well struck, accurate tee shot. If you don't hit it, you will have a lot of club in.
I was about twenty metres right of the last fairway bunker and had 180 odd into a slight breeze, I'd hazard a guess that most people end up that distance away from the bunkers as its a shot penalty if you go in any of them.
I just don't see the need for that many bunkers on the inside of the dogleg on a hole that doglegs that much, even without the bunkers their the tee shot wouldn't be easy beacuse as you have said you can run through the dogleg easily
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.............
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28th April 2009 06:10 PM
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I can see what you are saying, as I often run a 4 iron up into one of the last two and curse at being penalised for a half decent tee shot. However, I usually know as soon if I've hit it that I have cut it too close. I find it is part of the risk/reward aspect of it. If I want to really risk it, I'll try and fly the corner with the driver, which only ends up happening on the second tee shot in a stableford round or in an ambrose day. Too much risk otherwise.
For me, eliminating the bunkers would not influence my tee shot one bit.
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28th April 2009 07:03 PM
#219
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But wouldn't it allow you to hit 4i with a much smaller chance of finding sand?
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28th April 2009 07:14 PM
#220
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Originally Posted by
golfer69
What the....? Is that a double green???
WITB
Lowballing since 2009!
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28th April 2009 07:15 PM
#221
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28th April 2009 07:21 PM
#222
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Haven't seen one of them in a while! ....Didn't know we had this phenomenon here in Perth.
WITB
Lowballing since 2009!
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28th April 2009 07:22 PM
#223
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Originally Posted by
golfer69
Looks very Secret Harbourish!!!
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28th April 2009 07:22 PM
#224
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Originally Posted by
Scottt
But wouldn't it allow you to hit 4i with a much smaller chance of finding sand?
Yes it would. I could also drive more greens if I hit from the ladies.
Who wants to make it easier? Harden the f*..uc,k up!
Originally Posted by
Golfnut
What the....? Is that a double green???
It is a huge double green.
I think I am the only person to play both holes in the same round and land on the far side of the wrong flag.
The 7th (the bottom hole) was around the middle. The 5th was tucked on the right side, so I really missed my 7th approach bad (from one of those evil bunkers).
Both putts were over 120 feet. I two putt both for par. I then asked the question how I can do that, but still three jack from 10 feet?
I was pretty bad. I had to wait for the group on 5 to putt out and then delay the group in the fairway from hitting while I took a 3/4swing with a putter.
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28th April 2009 07:25 PM
#225
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Canuck
Yes it would. I could also drive more greens if I hit from the ladies.
Who wants to make it easier? Harden the f*..uc,k up!
harder = better?
I've not played the course, but it looks over-bunkered in the driving zones from what I have seen.
115 is a sh!tload of traps.
Of the links I have played over here so far, I'm trying to think of a single hole bunkered both sides of the driving zone, and yet they are not easy courses.
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