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amanda
14th October 2004, 02:06 PM
Pete and I were chatting today about the next Sydney get together and I thought I'd put a date up now.

The 2 course suggestions by Pete were Ashlar and Cumberland. We don't want anything that will kill us - Shellharbour was spectacular, but I think an easier course would suit us better :D

My other suggestion is Bexley.

Please feel free to suggest a course - nothing as difficult as Shellharbour or Camden Lakeside - reasonable cost $40pp comp + green fee - and where booking in a large number of players won't be a hassle.

I really don't care if we play a muni course!

Fishman Dan
14th October 2004, 02:29 PM
I've played Cumberland once and really enjoyed it. Ashlar i've heard good things about, other places we could toss up are Carnarvon (Trung?) and Fox Hills?

I can see about booking 8-12 spots as a 'group' at Fox (Sundays are open days, i can invite 3 ppl).

Either way, count me in.

amanda
14th October 2004, 02:35 PM
Thanks Fishy. I know that Carnarvon is 1 guest per member.

Ducky
14th October 2004, 03:14 PM
Please pick Cumberland! I will be able to go see my relatives after we play!

I am 100% in for this one either way. I will be on holidays, so it's good timing!

:D

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

amanda
14th October 2004, 03:49 PM
Please pick Cumberland! I will be able to go see my relatives after we play!
You are very keen on visiting these relos Ducky - I'm not sure if I'd be that keen to visit all of mine :wink:

Jono
14th October 2004, 07:33 PM
Dec 12 is OK with me. I'm keen for a game wherever.

I can find out whether we can play at Bayview, if people are keen. Bayview has undergone a lot of changes in the last two years. Interesting course where no two holes look the same. All par fives potentially reached in 2 by long hitters, but they are very tight. Par 71. Not too hard, but it can bite.

If I get permission from the general manager, the green fee may be very cheap.

3oneday
14th October 2004, 07:40 PM
Ducky - I'm not sure if I'd be that keen to visit all of mine :wink:
Ducky, you want the address of my mother in law ???

:lol:

Dan, only prob with Fox Hills on a Sunday is the earliest hit off 11am, after all the social golf.... I know Ashlar hits off from the crack, but not sure about Cumberland. Ducky, if we did Ashlar, it is about a 12 minute drive from Cumberland, your wish could still be granted.

Ducky
14th October 2004, 07:52 PM
Hah, it doesn't have to be Cumberland, but it would have worked out well as my relatives live just down the road. Wherever you pick will be fine with me, it will be good to have a game on one of the Sydney courses.

:)

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Jono
15th October 2004, 02:42 PM
I checked with the general manager at Bayview, and we can get up to 4 tee times at Bayview on Sunday 12/12. As long as you are a member somewhere, the only cost will be the comp fee ... ie. $8. Bayview, with the new water reservoirs, is in pretty good nick at the moment, so it's a good deal. The only thing is that it's quite far up north (around Mona Vale).

If people are keen, I can go ahead with the booking. I personally don't mind where we play. Just throwing this in as an option. (We've gone south to Shell Harbour, west to Liverpool, so about time for a northern course? :wink: )

amanda
15th October 2004, 03:00 PM
Jono - sounds good - we don't mind driving.

Fishman Dan
15th October 2004, 03:18 PM
Jono - sounds great, i'm in.

Jono
16th October 2004, 04:53 AM
Great. I've pencilled in 3 tee times starting at 8:30am. I know this is early, but it means we will avoid the afternoon heat. If it is too early, let me know and I'll change it.

So, here's the list:

1. Amanda
2. Brad?
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

For those who are coming from South/West, the best way is to take the Mona Vale road towards Pittwater road.

amanda
16th October 2004, 07:23 AM
Fantastic Jono - thanks for doing the booking. Brad and I are definitely in! Terence also said he'd be interested - and a while back he suggested that if we wanted to chuck in $10 each, he'd put a driver head up for a prize.

1. Amanda
2. Brad?
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Fishman Dan
16th October 2004, 07:59 AM
...and a while back he suggested that if we wanted to chuck in $10 each, he'd put a driver head up for a prize.

We all know your rich vein of form at the moment Amanda, but luring $$$ of us is naughty ;)

I'll be in that, sounds cheaper than (losing) regular bets :roll:

Ducky
16th October 2004, 05:15 PM
Before I put myself down as a definite, I would be coming from the Mosman area if I was to play. How far away is Bayview from Mosman?

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Fishman Dan
16th October 2004, 05:57 PM
Before I put myself down as a definite, I would be coming from the Mosman area if I was to play. How far away is Bayview from Mosman?

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

No doubting you Mosmanians ;)

You're about 25-30 mins away. Go through The Spit, straight ahead at the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation at Balgowlah and up past Warringah Mall. Depends on traffic really, but you're the closest so far ;) :lol:

Jono
16th October 2004, 07:05 PM
Ducky,

On a Sunday morning, you should be able to make it in 20 minutes. Watch out for the speed camera as you cross the Spit ... :wink:


Amanda,

Since the game is only going to cost $8 each, I think $10 per person for a prize is a good idea. I'll talk to Terence and see what he can do.

Jono
17th October 2004, 12:11 AM
Updated list:

1. Amanda
2. Brad?
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

TS
17th October 2004, 08:24 PM
I will be interested to join you guys at Bayview.

3oneday
17th October 2004, 08:46 PM
I will be interested to join you guys at Bayview.

TS, do a copy and paste mate, and stick your name down, you're obviously a brave man (or woman :shock: ), one - to play golf with this lot, and two - to be prepared for some of the CRAP these Queerlanders dish up :wink:

:lol:


just kiddin guys 8) :roll: :smt020

TS
17th October 2004, 08:53 PM
1. Amanda
2. Brad?
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12

Jono
18th October 2004, 02:38 AM
Hey Tony. Welcome to the forum. Quick intro, perhaps? Where do you play and what handicap do you play off? I joined Bayview this year after about 3 years' break from golf. Used to be off 7 at one stage, currently off 10.

Revised list:

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8.
9.
10.
11.
12

3oneday
18th October 2004, 07:49 AM
Hey Tony. Welcome to the forum. Quick intro, perhaps? Where do you play and what handicap do you play off? I joined Bayview this year after about 3 years' break from golf. Used to be off 7 at one stage, currently off 10.

You forgot the bit, "and I had a win yesterday with 42 points..... allowed my adoring fans to put my name in the paper"

Well done mate 8)

Pete

amanda
18th October 2004, 08:11 AM
Welcome Tony!

TS
18th October 2004, 08:31 AM
Hi Guys

I play at Long Reef, currently around 12 and hopefully getting better. Using either Wishon 515 or Spectrum driver, Ashton 3 wood, 321Li 3 & 4. Honma 5 - 9 irons, Ausmac PW & SW, Vokey 5808, and Smooth 6 putter.

Jono
18th October 2004, 04:51 PM
Hey Tony. Welcome to the forum. Quick intro, perhaps? Where do you play and what handicap do you play off? I joined Bayview this year after about 3 years' break from golf. Used to be off 7 at one stage, currently off 10.

You forgot the bit, "and I had a win yesterday with 42 points..... allowed my adoring fans to put my name in the paper"

Well done mate 8)

Pete

Thanks, Pete. I don't read the papers so I missed it. :?

How about the game at Bayview? With your length, you could potentially eat this course up and claim the first prize ... I haven't contacted Terence yet, but I am hoping for a component driver head. Or have you pretty much gone OEM now? :lol:

I know it's a long drive for you, but come to Bayview. I'll shout you a drink and a really nice hamburger for lunch. The new layout is pretty good. I heard Bayview used to be a bit of a goat track, but they've done a lot of work on the course since then.

Jono
18th October 2004, 05:11 PM
Hi Guys

I play at Long Reef, currently around 12 and hopefully getting better. Using either Wishon 515 or Spectrum driver, Ashton 3 wood, 321Li 3 & 4. Honma 5 - 9 irons, Ausmac PW & SW, Vokey 5808, and Smooth 6 putter.

Hmmm ... I see some familiar equipment there ... a component guy, ey? :wink: Where did you get your Wishons/SMT/Ashton? Do you know Terence Kwan by any chance?

Jono
18th October 2004, 05:14 PM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9.
10.
11.
12

3oneday
18th October 2004, 06:48 PM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10.
11.
12.

Company should be good, but it's the hamburger I'm coming for 8) . Will bloody need one after the drive :roll: :lol: :lol: oh, and Jono, I now live in OEM land for driver, irons, wedges and putter, currently correcting the imbalance of the rescues, which will be sorted by the time we play :lol: :lol: , a 14* Callaway Hybrid will be in the bag in the next fortnight :wink:

Pete

TS
18th October 2004, 07:18 PM
Hi Guys

I play at Long Reef, currently around 12 and hopefully getting better. Using either Wishon 515 or Spectrum driver, Ashton 3 wood, 321Li 3 & 4. Honma 5 - 9 irons, Ausmac PW & SW, Vokey 5808, and Smooth 6 putter.

Hmmm ... I see some familiar equipment there ... a component guy, ey? :wink: Where did you get your Wishons/SMT/Ashton? Do you know Terence Kwan by any chance?

Hi Jono

I did get the SMT & Ashton from Terence. I got the Wishon direct from Wishon US when they used to sell & ship direct to OZ.

TS
18th October 2004, 07:23 PM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11.
12

Friend of mine Patrick would like to join in at Bayview as well.

Onewood
18th October 2004, 09:29 PM
How many can you fit in, theres time to plan for this one 8)

Mat and I are thinking of coming down for this one :P Thats if you let QLDers in :D

I will confirm by the 15 Nov.

markTHEblake
18th October 2004, 09:44 PM
Well, Onewood if your going how many more can you fit in the Taxi?
- its very very tempting.

Jono
18th October 2004, 11:18 PM
How many can you fit in, theres time to plan for this one 8)

Mat and I are thinking of coming down for this one :P Thats if you let QLDers in :D

I will confirm by the 15 Nov.

Kev,

We can fit more in. 2 conditions. You have to be a member of a club with a valid handicap and I have to let the general manager know well before the timesheet comes out (which is two weeks prior to the event). So, pencil you in for now?

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13.
14.
15.
16.

3oneday
19th October 2004, 08:46 AM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14.
15.
16.

Pencil my mate in as well, cost cutting :lol: he might buy the burgers !! :lol:

Pete

Ducky
19th October 2004, 10:44 AM
Ok, I'm in.

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14. Ben (Ducky)
15.
16.

Trung
19th October 2004, 11:19 AM
Just got back from HK.. Count me in..

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14. Ben (Ducky)
15. Trung
16.

Fishman Dan
19th October 2004, 12:15 PM
How many groups can you arrange Jono? You might have to miss out on this one ;) :lol:

Jono
19th October 2004, 05:17 PM
How many groups can you arrange Jono? You might have to miss out on this one ;) :lol:

Hmmm ... the way we are going, we might have to make THIS the Official Ozgolf Championship ... :twisted:

First Place Prize:
9 degree SMT O2 head (thanks to T and Laurence at Frontier Golf - www.frontiergolf.com.au )

There will also be best gross score prize.

Onewood
19th October 2004, 08:48 PM
Well, Onewood if your going how many more can you fit in the Taxi?
- its very very tempting.

$160 return looks good to me, (Virgin) Just waiting on my Qantas mate :wink: to beat that price :D

I will have a def answer for this by the 15th......sitting at 80/20 for at this stage :D

Ducky
19th October 2004, 10:40 PM
I am looking forward to this. Maybe we should book the course out for the day?

:D

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

markTHEblake
19th October 2004, 11:13 PM
Onewood, i do beleive my wife has a plan to make me a temporary batchelor from about the 9th December. Things like this only happen once every 10 years, so this could be just the beginning of a very nasty 8 weeks.

amanda
20th October 2004, 07:57 AM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14. Ben (Ducky)
15. Trung
16. Wayz (Will)

Jono
20th October 2004, 09:54 AM
1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14. Ben (Ducky)
15. Trung
16. Wayz (Will)
17. Terence ?

burger
20th October 2004, 12:04 PM
Well have a new addition to the family, so will need to obtain leave pass, tho mother in law is in town around . . .

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Onewood?
12. Mat?
13. Darren - mate of 3oneday
14. Ben (Ducky)
15. Trung
16. Wayz (Will)
17. Terence ?
18. burger . . . to be confirmed
19.

Jono
20th October 2004, 04:51 PM
Just couple of things.

1) in case I didn't make it very clear ... $8 for the round. $10 each to put into the prizes. This is compulsory ... :wink:

2) this is not an invitation day. I have to get special permission from the general manager. I booked 3 tee times, but should be able to get 1 or 2 more groups if I'm lucky. Remember, we are playing in the normal Sunday club comp at Bayview. I think the other members will be unhappy with me if I hogged too many time slots ... which leads me to ...

3) we'll see what the level of interest is like and how many can make it, but if the number is too large, we may have to limit this to Ozgolf members only. I don't want to do that and I'll try my best to get extra time slots, but I can't promise that everyone will be able to play.

Can I have a definite answer as to who can and can't play that day by November 22nd? If you can definitely play, please PM me your full name, your home course, and your current AGU handicap.

It should be a great day ... :wink:

TS
20th October 2004, 05:09 PM
Jono

If there are too many people, Patrick & I can give it a miss.

Tony

Jono
20th October 2004, 07:05 PM
Jono

If there are too many people, Patrick & I can give it a miss.

Tony

Tony,

What I think I better do is talk to the manager tomorrow, and see exactly how many spots I can get. I am hoping I can accomodate everyone. However, because it is not a set invitation day (Bayview has about 8 invitation Sundays per year) I can't say exactly how many tee times we can have.

I'll get back on the maximum number tomorrow. No need to pull out yet, Tony ... :wink:

3oneday
21st October 2004, 03:53 PM
Me and my mate are definites.

Pete

Jono
22nd October 2004, 07:42 PM
I feel aweful having to say this. Rang the general manager of Bayview today. When I initially penciled in 3 time slots, he said it was no problem and made it sound like I could have 1 or 2 more groups if I wanted. When I rang today, he didn't even recall our first conversation. :? :evil: I had to work hard just to get the original three time slots.

So, I'm sorry guys. It will be limited to 12 people. To be fair, I'll have to take the first twelve.

On a brighter note, I picked up the first place prize today from Laurence at Frontier Golf. SMT O2 nine degree head. It looks bewdiful. :lol:

Onewood
22nd October 2004, 07:47 PM
Jono,
Leave me and Mat out, we will do it another time :wink:

Now I have a partial OK from the minister for finance, we should be able to do something in the new year :D

3oneday
22nd October 2004, 08:06 PM
So, order of entry 9 and 13, nice chance with scratchings, or do you now can non ozgolf members ??

Not fussed either way, Jono, your call mate.

Cheers

Pete

TS
22nd October 2004, 08:29 PM
Jono

Thanks. Looking forward to meet you guys in person on the 12.

Tony

Jono
23rd October 2004, 05:16 AM
Pete, the only fair way I can do this is to go by the order. (Especially since I advertised on the "other" forum as well ... :oops: ). My fault for not checking exactly how many tee times we can have ... :oops: :oops:

So far, the list looks something like this:

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday
12. Ben (Ducky)

Can everyone on this list confirm that they are definites? (for now anyway).

TS
23rd October 2004, 07:14 AM
Jono

A 6am post, you must be on your way to a golf game.

1. Amanda
2. Brad
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS - confirm
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick - confirm
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday
12. Ben (Ducky)

amanda
23rd October 2004, 08:43 AM
1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS - confirm
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick - confirm
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday
12. Ben (Ducky)

Ducky
23rd October 2004, 10:08 AM
1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy
4. Jono
5. Geoff
6. TonyS - confirmed
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday
10. Patrick - confirmed
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday
12. Ben (Ducky) - confirmed

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Jono
23rd October 2004, 03:29 PM
1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy
4. Jono - confirmed
5. Geoff
6. TonyS - confirmed
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday - confirmed
10. Patrick - confirmed
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday - confirmed
12. Ben (Ducky) - confirmed

3oneday
23rd October 2004, 07:12 PM
1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy
4. Jono - confirmed
5. Geoff
6. TonyS - confirmed
7. Jim
8. Virgal
9. 3oneday - confirmed - and PUMPED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10. Patrick - confirmed
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday - confirmed - him TOO !!!!
12. Ben (Ducky) - confirmed

Ducky
23rd October 2004, 09:00 PM
Oh, you just went over the top, Pete.

:shock:

:wink:

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

3oneday
24th October 2004, 01:58 PM
Oh, you just went over the top, Pete.

:shock:

:wink:

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).
well, click the report button then :P

:lol:

Pete

PS, will you have your inferior equipment with you ???? :shock:

:lol:

Jarro
24th October 2004, 03:10 PM
:lol: :lol:

.. nice one Pete 8)

Ducky
24th October 2004, 05:35 PM
PS, will you have your inferior equipment with you ????
You never know, the clubhead may just fly off in your direction...

:wink:

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Golfgirl
25th October 2004, 09:02 AM
How about in the new year, I try and set up an Ozgolf day at Eastlakes?? Anyone interested?

(I've never even seen the course, so feel free to tell me if it is not worth bothering. I only suggest it because I know a good pro there.... :roll: )

Fishman Dan
25th October 2004, 09:20 AM
Don't worry about the quality of the course, it's always worth getting out regardless. I've played E'Lakes once, i didn't mind it. It's no Bonny Doon or The Lakes, but it's still got 18 holes.

If there's a day planned, count me in.

TS
25th October 2004, 09:23 AM
I played there couple of time, Eastlake got some interesting holes. Don't played there in peak hour traffic. The course is divided by Wentworth Ave, try to cross the road in peak hour traffic dragging a golf buggy bring new meaning to exciting golf.

Jono
25th October 2004, 07:03 PM
Revised confirmation list:

1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy
4. Jono - confirmed
5. Geoff - confirmed
6. TonyS - confirmed
7. Jim - confirmed
8. Virgal - confirmed
9. 3oneday - confirmed
10. Patrick - confirmed
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday - confirmed
12. Ben (Ducky) - confirmed

You had to be the last ... ey, Fishy ... :lol:

Onewood
25th October 2004, 07:32 PM
Don't worry about the quality of the course, it's always worth getting out regardless. I've played E'Lakes once, i didn't mind it. It's no Bonny Doon or The Lakes, but it's still got 18 holes.

If there's a day planned, count me in.

Coming from a man that has a reputation of getting out regardless :wink: :D Jono, you just have to wait to see how he's feeling :D

Jono
26th October 2004, 04:38 AM
1. Amanda - confirmed
2. Brad - confirmed
3. Fishy - confirmed
4. Jono - confirmed
5. Geoff - confirmed
6. TonyS - confirmed
7. Jim - confirmed
8. Virgal - confirmed
9. 3oneday - confirmed
10. Patrick - confirmed
11. Darren - mate of 3oneday - confirmed
12. Ben (Ducky) - confirmed

Game on, guys ... and Amanda ... :oops:

Don't worry Kev. If Mrs Fish rings me up at 6am again to tell me that Mr Fish is feeling crook with diarhoea and vomitting, I'm gonna drive to his place with a vomit bowl and a pan ... There nothing that a bit of maxolon and imodium can't fix ... :wink:

Speirsy11
26th October 2004, 08:47 PM
Guys

Please count me in for the 12th if there is room......I'll finally be done exams and will be able to actually play some golf!

Speirsy

burger
27th October 2004, 11:48 AM
If ANYONE pulls out they had better let me know :twisted:
I'll be in like a flash, as they say . . . .

Pete, you still changing your driver or just advertising? cos each time I come in you've got a different one as piccy!

stu

3oneday
27th October 2004, 12:06 PM
Stu,

Funny man :P :lol:

Even funnier, I have been walking around with a smile on my face since yesterday arvo. Today I bought a 580XD Tour with an NV75 stiff shaft. Cost a bit, but the funny part is when I first started my hoing, the 580Xd was the first club purchased, for the bargain price of $525 (I think they sell for $350 or so these days). So I have now gone full circle and, I believe, this will be the last driver I buy for myself for at least 6 months (unless it breaks, of course :lol: ) 8) , the bees knees in my humble opinion. No need for any queerlanders to respond or reply to this post, thanks :P

Hope you get a guernsey Stu, by all accounts Fishy isn't a morning person, so that's one down :lol:

Pete

BrisVegas
27th October 2004, 12:10 PM
Today I bought a 580XD Tour with an NV75 stiff shaft. Cost a bit, but the funny part is when I first started my hoing, the 580Xd was the first club purchased, for the bargain price of $525 (I think they sell for $350 or so these days). So I have now gone full circle and, I believe, this will be the last driver I buy for myself for at least 6 months (unless it breaks, of course :lol: ) 8) , the bees knees in my humble opinion. No need for any queerlanders to respond or reply to this post, thanks :P

Pete, glad you found your "true" driver. 580XD are a very nice head and that's a great shaft. Hope it didn't cost you too much pain and suffering to get back to it. I find the same thing every time I try someone else's driver. They all feel good for a few belts on the range, but eventually I go back to mine old faithful.

6 months... The clock is ticking! :roll: :wink: :lol:

Fishman Dan
1st November 2004, 07:51 AM
Don't worry about the quality of the course, it's always worth getting out regardless. I've played E'Lakes once, i didn't mind it. It's no Bonny Doon or The Lakes, but it's still got 18 holes.

If there's a day planned, count me in.

Coming from a man that has a reputation of getting out regardless :wink: :D Jono, you just have to wait to see how he's feeling :D

Hey, that's a once-off! No fair!

Bring it on! :smt062

Fishman Dan
7th November 2004, 08:47 AM
What are the tee times for this? Can i make a special request to go in the first group?

Jono
7th November 2004, 09:47 PM
The first tee time is 8:30. I'll put you in the first group, if you like. But you gotta hang around for the presentations ... remember, SMT O2 driver head is on the line ... :wink:

Fishman Dan
8th November 2004, 08:25 AM
No problems Jono - i've spoken to the parents of the 1 year old who's birthday it is, and told them i will be late. As long as the pool is ready for me when i get there as i won't have showered :wink:

Speirsy11
20th November 2004, 12:46 PM
Jono

Were you able to get another tee time so that a few more of can join the fun? Hopefully I'll have a new set of irons to show off by then :lol:

Thanks

Speirsy

Jono
20th November 2004, 05:51 PM
Rob,

I'm working on it, mate ... :wink: I'll let you know by the end of next week.

Speirsy11
23rd November 2004, 11:22 AM
Thanks.

Ducky
1st December 2004, 08:32 AM
'Ello,

I talked to the local professional yesterday about how many cards I needed to hand in to get my handicap. He said six for the real deal and also mentioned three in relation to something else (but by that stage I had tuned out).

So, obviously the likelihood of me competing in enough competitions to get six cards in under two weeks is not very likely. Therefore, there is a position vacant once again, so anyone who is interested in filling the position should contact Jono and get him to pencil your name in.

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Fishman Dan
1st December 2004, 08:36 AM
Ducky - 3 will get you a provisional handicap, so you can play comps at your local club. It will take another 2 cards to get an official AGU handicap ;)

Not sure about '6'?

3oneday
1st December 2004, 08:42 AM
So, whilst this is sorted (or not) should Burger/Speirsy be put on notice to organise themselves ??

Does Jono know who first reserve is ??

Pete

Ducky
1st December 2004, 08:53 AM
I don't know Dan. He said six, but maybe he got confused (or maybe I did). Three for the provisional (local) handicap sounds similar to what he was saying. Hopefully, if you all are having a few games over the holiday break I can fill in then.

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

burger
2nd December 2004, 11:36 AM
First in best dressed - Ducky replacement - burger

Jono
2nd December 2004, 08:00 PM
First in best dressed - Ducky replacement - burger

So your missus is going to let you play two months in a row, huh? :wink: Welcome to Bayview. PM me your full name, home course, and current handicap.

Trung
2nd December 2004, 08:07 PM
Rob,

I'm working on it, mate ... :wink: I'll let you know by the end of next week.

Jono, any more spots mate? 8)

Jono
3rd December 2004, 07:07 AM
Trung,

Sorry mate, I couldn't get any more time slots. How about joining us for the game on the 27th? :wink:

I'll let you know if anyone drops out for the Dec 12th game.

3oneday
3rd December 2004, 07:19 PM
Trung/Jono,

Me and my mate are out, you owe me a Pro V1 :wink:

Pete

Trung
4th December 2004, 10:47 AM
Jono, pls fill in who ever is in front of me.

I will take a spot if there is one available after that. :D

Jono
4th December 2004, 03:18 PM
Jono, pls fill in who ever is in front of me.

I will take a spot if there is one available after that. :D

Ummm ... I think there's about 20 golfers waiting in line in front of you, mate. :twisted: Actually, you are next. Burger squeezed himself in front of you, but now you are both in. 8)

First tee off is at 8:30, so please be there by 8am. There is a fine if you turn up later than 14 minutes before your tee time. That's Bayview rule, not mine ... :wink:

Fishman Dan
5th December 2004, 12:26 PM
A fine?? What's the damage?

Surely that just means that people would rather not turn up at all if it looks like they will be late?

Jono
5th December 2004, 07:08 PM
A fine?? What's the damage?

Surely that just means that people would rather not turn up at all if it looks like they will be late?

I've only been a member for a couple of months, but they tell me that the fine goes towards the member's account. Since I am inviting 11 guests, if everyone turns up late (or don't turn up at all without ringing the proshop in advance), I could be running into some serious debt ... :cry: :lol: :lol:

Fishman Dan
5th December 2004, 08:58 PM
A fine?? What's the damage?

Surely that just means that people would rather not turn up at all if it looks like they will be late?

I've only been a member for a couple of months, but they tell me that the fine goes towards the member's account. Since I am inviting 11 guests, if everyone turns up late (or don't turn up at all without ringing the proshop in advance), I could be running into some serious debt ... :cry: :lol: :lol:

Well then, you should have said... :twisted: :lol:

Speirsy11
8th December 2004, 08:10 AM
Jono

Just confirming that we are still on for Sunday. Really looking forward to playing the Royal Bayview GC :P .......See you guys Sunday......

Are we all having lunch after? Or should I tell Natalie that I'll be home early?

Speirsy

amanda
8th December 2004, 08:13 AM
Are we all having lunch after? Or should I tell Natalie that I'll be home early?
I heard John say something about delicious hamburgers - we'll be staying for that :D

Trung
8th December 2004, 09:49 AM
Bayview is near Monavale golf course? :?

I will be there around 8.30am...... Just kidding Jono.. :D


Will leave home at 7am..

Amanda&Brad, what time are you leaving Riverwood? Can we meet on the way? maybe at SOP?

amanda
8th December 2004, 10:34 AM
Amanda&Brad, what time are you leaving Riverwood? Can we meet on the way? maybe at SOP?
Trung - I have no idea - I don't even know where Bayview is (yet) - I shall have some more info by Friday - we could always meet at your place (which is just off King Georges right?)

Trung
8th December 2004, 11:04 AM
My house is also ok.. I'm behind the big park opposite Harvey Norman. :D

burger
8th December 2004, 11:28 AM
:( :cry:
As per pm to Jono, I'm not able to join the prestegious Bayview Ozgolf event . . . .

First time on-call for new site and a 4th birthday pool party . . .
Have fun! I'll be thinking of you . . . :?

stu

Trung
8th December 2004, 11:50 AM
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Jono
8th December 2004, 07:16 PM
Jono

Just confirming that we are still on for Sunday. Really looking forward to playing the Royal Bayview GC :P .......See you guys Sunday......

Are we all having lunch after? Or should I tell Natalie that I'll be home early?

Speirsy

Lunch and winner's award ceremony after the game (Remember that an SMT O2 head is up for grabs). Tell Natalie that you'll be late ... in fact, tell her that she might have to come and pick you up ... Tooheys goes extra well with those burgers ... :wink: :lol:

Amanda and Trung, if you are going to meet up at the Olympic Park, the best way is to come up Lane Cove Rd and then onto Mona Vale Rd. Keep going until the end of Mona Vale Rd (see Trung's map). Turn left onto Barrenjoey and then left again onto Pittwater Rd. Left on Darley St and the golf course is on your right. By about 8 am, all the parking spots will be taken, and you have to park on Darley St. Advice: Do NOT park along the fencing of the golf course. The short par 4 11th runs parallel to the fence and I've seen more than one car being hit by a stray golf ball.

If anybody gets lost, either call my mobile, or call the pro shop on 9999 3078.

Trung
8th December 2004, 07:32 PM
Tooheys goes extra well with those burgers ... :wink: :lol:

Jono, stay away from those beers... You almost passed out at the OzChamp after a few beers the night before :wink:

amanda
8th December 2004, 07:37 PM
Jono - Trung, Brad & I are sorted - thanks for the advice about parking away from the fence. Btw - the car park of your club must be tiny if all the spots are filled by 8am :shock:

Jono
8th December 2004, 09:36 PM
Jono - Trung, Brad & I are sorted - thanks for the advice about parking away from the fence. Btw - the car park of your club must be tiny if all the spots are filled by 8am :shock:

Very small car park ... 30-40 spots. Plans for a new clubhouse and underground parking are in place. Don't know exactly when that's going to happen ... :oops:

If there are no parking, park on Darley St but not along the 11th hole. You should be able to get a spot if you get there by 8am though ...

Trung: Just don't call me at 3 am and I'll be right ... :twisted:

Jono
8th December 2004, 10:30 PM
OK. With the 1st place prize of SMT O2 driver head on the line, I don't want any comments like "you had home course advantage" when I win on Sunday ... :twisted: :lol:

Here is a link to the Bayview website and the course layout:

http://www.bayviewgolfclub.com/thecourse.asp

I've also compiled my own "how to play Bayview" hole by hole analysis. Read it with a grain of salt ... :wink:

Guide to playing Royal Bayview

Overview

Bayview is not a long course by any means. However, it does give the golfer a few options. You can play ultra conservative, or you can go for all the par 5’s in 2. Most of the course is relatively flat except couple of holes coming up to the clubhouse, and the hilly section across the street that contains 4 holes (4th to 7th). Few holes have OB stakes (white with black top) where you think there might be water hazards. I’ll try to mention where these “hidden” OB’s are.

One interesting local rule. If you have wide wheel buggies, you can roll your buggy across the green. I think the reasoning is that it saves the fringe area … who knows? We generally don’t call the group behind up, EXCEPT for the tee shot on the 7th (which has blind landing area). Here, you should call the group behind to tee up before you hit your shots into the green.

Hole 1
Par 5

Down hill tee shot. There are 3 palm trees in the middle of the fairway. If you hit your driver 230m+ on flat, you should be able to clear these. Aim for the right half of the fairway, but beware that there is OB to the right. If you pull your drive left, you may run out of fairway as the hole bends slightly to the right about 200 meters from the green. The drain that runs along the left side is GUR. If you can carry the ball 250-260 meters on flat, you should aim for the furthest bunker on the right as you’ll be able to clear this and will only have a mid-short iron into the green.

You have to make a decision for the second shot. There is a wide burn (yeah, OK … a creek) that runs across the fairway some 30 meters short of the green. If I am further away than the 200 meter marker, I lay up short of the creek with say an 8 iron which will leave me a sand wedge in. If I’m closer than the 200m marker, I usually have a go at the green. The water to the right of the green is OB whereas the water behind the green is a lateral hazard (I think …). Green slopes back to front and usually is much quicker than the practice green.

Hole 2
Par 4

Two separate teeing areas. On medal days, we tee off next to the first green (the hole is straight). Usually on Sundays, we go back down the 1st fairway a bit and tee off across the water (the hole becomes dogleg left). If you can carry the ball 240+ meters on flat, aim for the tree on the left. You should be able to carry that and the bunker, leaving you about 120-130 meters into the green. Be careful because if you block your shot to the right and run out of fairway, water runs along the right side of the fairway. This is OB. If you hook your drive and fail to clear the water, there is a drop zone near the 1st green.

For the second shot, it is best to miss short and left of the green which will leave you a chip uphill. Short and right will either catch the bunker (with a palm tree in the middle of it) or leave you in the heavy rough, leaving you a delicate flop shot over the bunker. If you go long and right, you have to hit it over the back bunker.

Hole 3
Par 5

This is a “love it” or “hate it” hole. Many golfers usually hate it when they first play it. I still haven’t figured out how best to play this hole. Dogleg right par 5 hole. The fairway is narrow, and about 350 meters from the tee, where the hole bends sharply to the right, there are two large trees in the middle of the fairway. There is water on the right where these trees are (i.e. at the corner of the dogleg), and as the hole bends to the right, there is also water along the left side of the fairway. The water on the left comes out quite a bit onto the fairway, especially about 100 meters from the green. This catches many players who try to cut the corner with their second shot.

Off the tee, decide whether you are going to be aggressive or conservative. Use either the driver or the long iron. If you drive the ball past the foot path that runs across the fairway some 250 meters from the tee, and you’re on the left side of the fairway, you MAY have a shot into the green. You still have to hit a high fade over some trees at the corner of the dogleg. As long as you clear the trees, there is some space on the right side of the green. Water runs up the left side to the green.

If you play conservative, then use your 180-200 meter club off the tee. There is no point going for more. Remember, OB runs along the right side until the corner of the dogleg (the water on the right, up to the nets at the corner of the dogleg, is OB. After the nets, it becomes a hazard). You can either hit your second shot over the two trees in the middle of the fairway or slightly left of it. It will leave you some 140 meters to the green for your third.

Bunkers short/right of the green. Some space on the right side of the green, but water on the left. Green slopes back to front.

Tricky hole to make par on. If you figure out how to play this hole, let me know …

Now, across the road to the hilly section … After you cross the road, you can get to the 4th tee via one of two paths. Path on the right is short and steep. If you have a carry bag, you may want to go this way. Path on the left is longer but less steep. If you are pulling a buggy and not so fit, I advise you swallow your pride and go this granny route … :wink:

Hole 4
Par 3

Uphill par 3. However, it is better to miss short than long. So if the tee is 150 meters from the center, then take the club that you’d normally hit 150m on flat. If you pure it, it’s on. Otherwise, you’ll have a chip from the fairway. The rough behind the green is thick. If you go too far, it’ll run down the bank. Also, it is better to miss to the right than left. Again, the rough on the left is thick, and there is a steep bank if you go too far left. The green slopes severely right to left. So, although the right side is the side to miss on, you’ll have a downhill chip/putt to the hole. (This is the highest part of the course and the green can be very quick). If you missed the green left but was lucky enough not to go down the bank, then you’ll actually have an easier uphill chip. A tougher hole than its index of 11.

Hole 5
Par 4

Downhill, short dogleg left. I know only one way to play this hole. Tee it high and aim over the trees on the left. If you carry your drive 230+ meters, and you can hit it high, I say go for it. I actually aim slightly left of where the green is. (between the green and the 6th tee). The worst thing that can happen is if you block your drive right and run out of fairway into the trees.

If you don’t want to have a go for the green off the tee, take your 200 meter club and hit it straight down the fairway. Bunker if you stray left or hit it too far and run out of fairway. You’ll have a blind lob wedge shot into the green.

The 5th and 6th greens are noticeably slower than the others. They are relatively new and don’t see too much sun. The undulations on this green is pretty tricky as well. Watch carefully when others putt.

Hole 6
Par 4

Uphill “what you see is what you get” par 4. OB along the right. Bunker right approx 210 meters from the tee. If you carry 220 meters on flat, this will be your landing area. So aim slightly left of these bunkers. Approx 110m from where the fairway bunkers are to the green. Again, this green has tricky undulations.

Hole 7
Par 4

Arguably the toughest driving hole on the course. Downhill (severe drop from the tee) dogleg left. The landing area is blind from the middle and back tees. Hazard along the right side with a drop zone at the bottom of the hill. If you hit the drive too far and don’t cut the corner, you may run out of fairway and go OB. Water on the far side is OB. The bush on the left is thick, and you’ll have hard time finding your ball from here. From the Sunday tees (middle tees), if you carry your drive 230m on flat, then aim for the tree at the corner of the dogleg. You’ll carry this and the bunker at the corner of the dogleg and will have a wedge in. Don’t try to bite any more off the corner, unless you can confidently CARRY the ball 250+m on flat. If you don’t want to take on the corner, then hit your 180-200 meter club straight down the fairway. If hitting from the front tees (ie. where the ladies tees are) subtract 20 meters from above yardages.

When you are at the bottom of the hill, waiting to hit your shots into the green, turn around to see if the group behind you is on the teeing ground. If they are, call them up. The group on the tee should indicate when a player is about the hit. One of his playing partners should be holding a club straight up to indicate to the group in front. After the shot is hit, the group on the tee should indicate the direction of the ball flight. Because the landing spot is blind, the group at the bottom should indicate whether the ball is safe or not. If the ball is safe (ie. Not in the hazard, OB, or in the bush), then you indicate this by flapping your arms like a bird. :shock: Don’t ask me why, just do it. 8)

Tricky green to hit that is slightly elevated. It’s shallow front to back and not that wide either. Miss right and you’ll probably be under the trees and a sole bunker guards the left. If you go long, it's a tough chip up the bank from the rough. Green is pretty flat so don’t read too much break.

Hole 8
Par 3

Short par three, with well guarded green. If you go over the green, the ball will probably roll down the bank into the water. Left side is well guarded by the bunker as is the right. Water short of the green. Green has two tiers. Easy to 3 putt if your ball is on the wrong tier.

Hole 9
Par 4

Slight dogleg right. From the Sunday tees, if you drive the ball 240m+, you’ll probably run out of fairway into the rough or water (if you go too far). If you can hit the ball high, cut a little bit off the corner by aiming at the right tree line. Alternatively, hit a slight fade. A good drive should leave you with about 110-120m into the green.

Careful with the second shot. If you miss left and don’t catch the bunker, you’ll probably end up in the creek that runs up the left side. Favour the right side of the green. Another back to front sloping green.

Hole 10
Par 3

Short par 4 for Amanda, par 3 for the guys. Off the back tees, it’s 210-220 meters, but on Sundays, it’ll probably be 155-165m. OB on the right side. For some reason, this hole tends to play about 5 meters longer than stated yardage. Plays easier than its index 1.

Hole 11
Par 4

You’ll notice a little metal box on the right side of the teeing ground. This houses an intercom to the halfway house (the hamburger joint) If you want a quick bite mid round, order before you tee off. I recommend either the hamburger or the chicken burger. Sausage and onions aren’t too bad either. We don’t stop midround on Sundays, so you’ll need to eat on the go.

Uphill short par 4. If you can carry your drive 230-240 meters on flat AND you can hit it high, I say go for the green. The green is guarded by bunkers on all sides (the bunkers at the back and right of the green are especially tough to play out of). The real danger is if you hit it too far right (OB into the parked cars on the street) or hit it long and left towards the 12th tee. The practice green behind the 12th tee is OB. I’ve seen many good players pull their drive left and hit the cart path next to the 12th tee and out of bounds. Also, if you hit into one of the 3 bushy trees on the left, you can say goodbye to your ball. These trees just eat up balls. Smart play would be to lay up short of the greenside bunkers with your 180-200 meter club, leaving you a short pitch onto the green. I always go for the green with my drive. Haven’t hit it yet. Well hit drives bounce over into the back bunker, I’ve pulled a few either OB or onto the 12th tee and I’ve gone OB onto the street a couple of times as well (haven’t hit a car yet). Hmmm … perhaps that’s telling me something. :?

If you are extra long and can carry your 3 wood/2 iron about 230 meters, then you should be able to hold the green. Otherwise, probably best to lay up (so I keep on telling myself :lol: ).

Hole 12
Par 3

Downhill par 3. Best to miss short/left, leaving you a relatively easy chip up the slope. Over the green, you’ll be struggling to get up and down. Bunker left/right. Narrow green, sloping back to front. Take one club less than what the yardage says and concentrate on hitting it pure, not hard.

Hole 13
Par 4

Straight par 4. Water to the right of the green. If you go long with your approach, you’ll be in the trees and chipping up the bank onto the green.

Hole 14
Par 5

Interesting double dogleg par 5. Bends left off the tee and right near the green. OB along the left side all the way to the green (ie. the water is OB on the left). As tempting as it is, don’t try to cut the corner off the tee. Instead, take your 215 meter club (say 3 or 4 wood) and try to hug the left half of the fairway (be careful of the fairway bunkers on the left though). You may still have a shot into the green. There is water and trees short and right of the green. However, if you are going for the green in two, and you are confident of carrying these trees, it is better to miss the green to the right where there is some space. If you pull left and go too long, you’ll run out of fairway and will probably go into the water (OB).

Hole 15
Par 5

Slight dogleg right. Aim for the right half of the fairway if you can drive the ball 230+m. Otherwise, aim for the left half of the fairway. There is a foot path that runs across the fairway about 200 meters from the green. From here, you can go for the narrow green guarded by bunkers on both sides. It is better to miss slightly left of the green and short. Water about 10 meters behind the green.

If you are not going for the green in two, then you have an interesting second shot. There are two palm trees left half of the fairway about 100 meters from the green. Also Bunker in the middle of the fairway about 50 meters short of the green. Bit like an obstacle course, really … :roll: Do what you need to negotiate these.

Hole 16
Par 3

120-135m par 3 over water. Creek short of the green that runs up left side of it. I tend to favour the right side and take plenty of club, but you really need to hit this green if you want your par. Over the green is safe, but it’s thick rough and the green slopes back to front.

Hole 17
Par 4

Straight par 4. Tee shot is pretty much WYSIWYG. If you hit way right onto the adjacent fairway (13th), it’s OK. Left, however, is pretty much dead.

Water left of the green if you go left of the bunker. You can’t see this from the fairway, so keep that in mind. New deep bunkers right of the green, but these are still GUR. I tend to favour the right/short side of the green with my approach.

Hole 18
Par 4

Short par 4. If you go too far to the right, you’ll get blocked by the trees on the right and the overhanging branches. Ideal drive is a draw or a straight shot towards the left half of the fairway. Tall trees guard the left side of the fairway and if you hit these, you probably won’t be able to get on with your second. The smart play will be to take a 200-220 meter club off the tee with a slight draw. You’ll only have a short iron or wedge into the green. There is no really gain by taking the driver.

The green is on top of a hill, and slopes severely back to front. If you go long, it’s a tough chip/putt downhill. If you go too short, the ball may run all the way back down the hill.

Trung
8th December 2004, 11:11 PM
OK. With the 1st place prize of SMT O2 driver head on the line, I don't want any comments like "you had home course advantage" when I win on Sunday ... :twisted: :lol:



Jono, if you really want it.. I will donate it to you after the game :lol:

Jono
9th December 2004, 06:12 AM
OK. With the 1st place prize of SMT O2 driver head on the line, I don't want any comments like "you had home course advantage" when I win on Sunday ... :twisted: :lol:



Jono, if you really want it.. I will donate it to you after the game :lol:

Nahh ... I don't have much use for the wooden spoon prize ... :twisted:

BTW, good thing you didn't quote the whole post ... :wink:

amanda
9th December 2004, 06:19 AM
Jono - are you going to have this printed for us on the day? :wink:

Also - what are the groups?

AndyP
9th December 2004, 08:15 AM
Guide to playing Royal Bayview
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Most course guides don't have this much info. :shock:

Fishman Dan
9th December 2004, 09:01 AM
Will someone in my group please study this and fill me in on the morning? Looks like way too much to read ;)

Speirsy11
9th December 2004, 09:49 AM
Wow Jono.....I got halfway through hole #1 and thought, "Hmmmm, what if he is trying to screw us up by posting this instead of helping us so that he is 100% sure to win?"

Sneaky guy Jono.......... :lol:

See you Sunday.......BTW, what is the dress code in regards to socks? How long must they be?

Rob

amanda
9th December 2004, 04:02 PM
See you Sunday.......BTW, what is the dress code in regards to socks? How long must they be?

From the Bayview website:


Short sports socks are permitted with shorts. They must be predominantly white in colour. Sockettes are not acceptable. If long socks are worn, they must be pulled up at all times

The rules seem a bit sexist - they explicitly state all ladies must be neatly and tidily dressed - but they don't make the same comment for the men! Just what I expected really 8)

Speirsy11
9th December 2004, 05:01 PM
See you Sunday.......BTW, what is the dress code in regards to socks? How long must they be?

From the Bayview website:


Short sports socks are permitted with shorts. They must be predominantly white in colour. Sockettes are not acceptable. If long socks are worn, they must be pulled up at all times

The rules seem a bit sexist - they explicitly state all ladies must be neatly and tidily dressed - but they don't make the same comment for the men! Just what I expected really 8)

Could be worse, they could say "All women must be neatly attired IN THE CLUBHOUSE, as they are not allowed on the course". Not that I'd ever play a course like that :roll: ......

Thanks for the info, see you Sunday Amanda!

Rob

Jono
9th December 2004, 06:58 PM
Fishy, I expect you to learn it off by heart. There will be a quiz before the tee off ... :lol:

Amanda, I must defend my home club here ... It's one of the few clubs that has equal membership fees for men and women. So the lady members have equal rights ... they can play in Saturday comps etc. That's why you don't see many guys taking a leak in the trees ... :wink:

OK. Here are the groups. I tried to mix up the low and the high handicappers.

Group 1
Fishman (17)
Trung (9)
Fishead (25)
Zipptopp (24)

Group 2
Jimandr (5)
Amanda (21)
Brad (20)
TS (12)

Group 3
Speirsy (4)
Jono (10)
Virgal (22)

As you can see, we have a spare spot in the last group. If anyone is interested, please post here, or PM me.

Thanks.

Fishman Dan
9th December 2004, 07:28 PM
Fishy, I expect you to learn it off by heart. There will be a quiz before the tee off ... :lol:

Better hit the books. Can i be in group 3? That gives me 15 minutes to study... i mean... 15 more minutes.. :?


Amanda, I must defend my home club here ... It's one of the few clubs that has equal membership fees for men and women.

Good, so Amanda's playing off the White's? :wink:


OK. Here are the groups. I tried to mix up the low and the high handicappers.

Group 1
Fishman (18)
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I've graduated, officially ;)

Sounds great people - look forward to it. Seeya at the course! Should we have a private 'groups' event to make it more interesting? Gold coin donation, funds end up on Keno or the bistro at the end of the round?

TS
9th December 2004, 07:34 PM
If we can get 1 more player. We should have a team competition between the teams.

Looking forward to the game on Sunday.

Trung
9th December 2004, 09:09 PM
Jono,

A new member on the ISG is after a game. You should send him a PM.. :D Maybe we can convert him :lol:

amanda
10th December 2004, 04:03 PM
If we can get 1 more player. We should have a team competition between the teams.

Looking forward to the game on Sunday.

How about we take the 2 best stableford scores per team on each hole? Or an Irish 4-ball - best 1 score on par 3, best 2 scores on par 4s, best 3 scores on par 5s.

amanda
10th December 2004, 04:05 PM
Amanda, I must defend my home club here ... It's one of the few clubs that has equal membership fees for men and women. So the lady members have equal rights ... they can play in Saturday comps etc. That's why you don't see many guys taking a leak in the trees ... :wink:

No worries John! So that makes 2 clubs in Sydney were men & women have equal rights 8)

Ducky
10th December 2004, 05:02 PM
Have fun everyone.

:)

Kind regards,

Ben (Ducky).

Speirsy11
11th December 2004, 07:47 AM
So have we decided on a game then? I like Amanda's idea (Irish 4 ball) of taking the best points on par 3, best 2 on par 4's and best 3 on par 5's....I vote for that to be the game......Anyone else have a better idea? If you do, lets hear it.......

GO GROUP 3!!!!!I think we can take the title, even with only 3 players........

We are talking off the stick right Amanda? 8)

I'm really looking forward to the game tomorrow.......See everyone at 8am :D

Rob

amanda
11th December 2004, 03:52 PM
We are talking off the stick right Amanda? 8)
We can always list a scratch and net winner - since there's no prize - it will be bragging rights :wink: (and of course - team events don't go towards the POTY)

Fishman Dan
11th December 2004, 04:06 PM
Did we get a 12th? Sorry, i haven't checked back, too lazy ;)

We played team stableford a few weeks ago - 3 best scores of a 4-some are recorded. Good fun, and should be interesting with a single comp on as well...

Hmm, play for the team, or play for me... :-k

This is over-and-above the comp of the day, just a side-niggle between ourselves of course ;)

amanda
12th December 2004, 04:24 PM
It ended up being a par event - scores for my group:

Trung - square
Amanda - sqaure
Geoff - square
Andrew - 10 down

We also took down stableford scores - which are quite different - John has those I think.

Winner of the day was John with 6 up but due to his local knowledge, John passed the prize onto Rob - 1 up (I think)

Uploading the pics into a separate thread now...

Jono
12th December 2004, 04:58 PM
Thanks everyone for driving all the way to my home course. I was quite surprised how early everyone was considering that many had to drive more than an hour (everyone got spots in the tiny parking lot 8) ). With constant rain on Friday and the gloomy weather forecast, I thought the weekend would be washed out, but it turned out to be a gorgeous morning. A bit too hot, if anything.

The tees were well forward (some mens tees were right next to ladies tees) and the greens were as soft as Dolly Parton's breasts (an image just for you Jarro ... :wink: ). The greens were pretty badly affected by the recent heat waves with lots of brown patches ... I think it's the worst they've been since I joined Bayview 3 months ago.

Anyway, onto the scores ... There were 4 separate games.
1) Single stableford (amongst ourselves)
2) Irish Fourball (amongst ourselves)
3) Singles Par event (club comp)
4) 2-Ball Par (club comp)

Jono (10) 44 $18000 8)
Speirsy (4) 39 $11000
Fishman (18 ) 37 $10000
Trung (9) 36 $9000
Amanda (21) 33 $7500
Zipptopp (25) 33 $7500
TonyS (12) 31 $5500
Glen (16) 31 $5500
Brad (18 ) 30 $4000
Jimandr (5) 29 $2500
Virgal (22) 29 $2500
Fishead (25) 19 $1000

Irish Fourball:
Jono/Speirsy/Fishman/Glen 89 points
Trung/Amanda/Zip/Fishead 84 points
TS/Brad/Virgal/Jimandr 83 points

Scratch:
Speirsy 72
Jono 73
Trung 80
Jimandr 83

It became evident that nobody read my essay on how to play Bayview ... :evil: Bayview is not long, but it's one of those courses where a bit of local knowledge can cut a handful of strokes off your score. So the first place prize (SMT O2 driver head) went to Rob Speirs, who smashed his way around Bayview for a one over 72. This guy is seriously long. First hole, 445 meter par 5 from an elevated tee ... Puts his tee shot down the middle,115 meters from green with his driver. This is where "normal" people lay up to with their second shots. Nice easy sand wedge from there to within 3 feet. Taps it in for an eagle. :shock: Rob could have eaten the course up had it not been for the slow greens. Couple of his chips and putts came up well short.

My other playing partner, Dan ... He has added "control" into his golfing vocabulary. Nice, smooth, gentle fades that seemed to trace the shape of the holes (many left to right holes at Bayview) and deadly with his lob wedge within 50 meters. 37 points on an unfamiliar course is excellent.

Anyway, I'd better not write another essay ... nobody will read it to the end anyway ... :lol: thanks again, everyone for turning up. It was a fun day.

Onewood
12th December 2004, 05:14 PM
Some good scores in guys 8) always good to see the favourite get up :D well done Jono (even though it was off the reds :lol: ) still have to get it into the hole :wink: Speirsy, 1 over is good golf on any course :P the shock :shock: of the day must go to the fishman 37 points 8)

TS
12th December 2004, 05:33 PM
Jono, great game you played this morning. 2 over par is a fantastic score. I think I can speak for everyone that we all want to say Thank You for the great job that you did. It was a lot of fun and it is great to catch up with other ozgolfers.

Looking forward to next time we catch up for another game.

Fishman Dan
12th December 2004, 06:33 PM
Great day, good company. She was a hot one, you could feel the moisture coming out of the ground in the heat. Plenty of sweating was done by all.

Highlights? Definately Rob's drive on the first :shock: Jono's cool head all day - the most 'commando' +2 scratch score i have ever seen. He was straight all day, and got up and down regularly. Of course, there was my chip on 10 - after blocking it to what we thought had gone OOB, to find it 30 metres from the green, lobbed, hit the pin and stopped next to the hole. I guess i used my luck up having that ball stay in play.


Winner of the day was John with 6 up but due to his local knowledge

Now now... it was an awesome display. Rob and I did benefit from having 2 locals in our group however.


Jono (10) 44 $24000
Speirsy (4) 39 $11000
Fishman (18 ) 37 $10000

I just wanted to see that again ;)


37 points on an unfamiliar course is excellent

:oops: Aw, you're too kind.. really. :? Actually think i putted pretty poorly too - dare i say it but could have been a few more.


the shock of the day must go to the fishman 37 points

That's a little cocky mate ;) Actually, my own reaction was "No sh!t Sherlock!" My Saturday round was terrible. In all seriousness though, with 2 or 3 three-putts thrown in and a few other aberrations, i could have shot better. Remember we're still on for a bet when (if?) you ever pluck up the courage to front up to an event with me ;) :lol:

Trung
12th December 2004, 07:02 PM
Jono (10) 44 $24000 8)
Speirsy (4) 39 $11000
Fishman (18 ) 37 $10000
Trung (10) 36 $9000


Thanks all for coming today. Had a great time with Geoff, Andrew and Mini Wie. Great to meet TS for the first time. Looking forward to more future games

TS, Sorry about the trip down Mona Vale road. I was a bit too close to you down the hill :oops:

Teed off with an old ball and kept it for all 18 holes. Was quite happy with that. No 1 priority for the day was to keep the ball on fairways. I did that quite well.

However, the putter went to sleep the latter part of the round. Had a brain-fart on the 15 green. The hole was no longer than then 30cm away. I missed the damn putt :evil: . 3 putted the the 17 :oops:

Jono... Just added my scores up.. Should be an even 36 points in stableford for me :D

TS
12th December 2004, 07:10 PM
TS, Sorry about the trip down Mona Vale road. I was a bit too close to you down the hill :oops:



Trung. No sweat, it is hard for an old guys to keep up with the young one in sports car.

Jono
12th December 2004, 07:19 PM
However, the putter went to sleep the latter part of the round. Had a brain-fart on the 15 green. The hole was no longer than then 30cm away. I missed the damn putt :evil: . 3 putted the the 17 :oops:

Yep, Amanda described that missed putt of yours in great detail. Apparently she found it funnier than the best Seinfeld episode ... you know, the one where Kremer hits a bag of brand new Titleists into the ocean ... :lol:


Jono... Just added my scores up.. Should be an even 36 points in stableford for me :D

Ahh ... Amanda forgot to put a score down for you on the par 3 16th (the one with creek in front of the green). Perhaps she was still too busy laughing from your missed putt on the 15th? :wink: I assumed you put your shot into the water and had an "X". :?

Well played, mate. 36 is a very respectable score for a single handicapper on a new course.

Trung
12th December 2004, 07:48 PM
Jono,

I added my scores up, went out with 19 points and came back home with 17 points (wiped the Par 3 16th, birdied the Par 5 14th. Front edge in 2.)

BTW.. None of us in my group knew about single stableford scores were counted for individual honour :roll: :twisted: .

We played as Par Event (as per club comp) and there were many putts left short :wink:

Geoff was not happy. Some of his +s should have been 4 pointers :D

I enjoyed the day. Great scores by your group :D

Fishman Dan
12th December 2004, 07:55 PM
I enjoyed the day. Great scores by your group :D

We were lucky to have Jono and Glen. Holes like the 7th - blind tee shot was a major benfit, knowing the line to cut the trees.

Even if i did end up in the bunker :twisted:

zipptopp
12th December 2004, 08:00 PM
Thanks Jono

What a great day we all had, It seems everyone enjoyed it. I only lost 3 ball so that was good. The photos look good, gee we're a stylish group aren't we !

Trung, did you clean up in your afternoon game ?

Trung
12th December 2004, 08:13 PM
Geoff, We called it off at 2.45pm.

There was a huge storm :oops:

McMw
12th December 2004, 09:03 PM
WOW....great score Jono.... :wink:
that's hell impressive for a 10capper to shoot 2over the course...irregardless of being home course or not... :D :D :D :D


so...what did I miss??? the SMT head was for Best Gross???

amanda
13th December 2004, 07:36 AM
so...what did I miss??? the SMT head was for Best Gross???
Best Net I think - we put in $10 each (the comp fee was only $8 - great value!)

Speirsy11
13th December 2004, 08:27 AM
Jono.....GREAT day my friend......You are the worlds worst 3hcp, but by far the BEST 10 I've ever played with.....Holden Scramble here we come!

Well, since most have already chimed in with their impression of the day, I'll do the same.......

1. Bayview GC has the best Chicken Burger I've ever had at a golf course. Seriously. Great staff too, very friendly, and a great deal, only $8 to play in the comp. Please pass on our thanks to the GM Jono.

2. That course is lots of fun to play. You could (ok, I could....) shoot 65, 75 or 85 on any given day.....Risk/reward par 5s, good par 3's.......lots of fun....just need to cut the greens a little lower is all :P

3. I don't hit it THAT long......although I did kill that one on the first......

4. Jono must have felt a little guilty about his score to give me the SMT head (That course isn't easy enough for a 10 to shoot 73 on :lol: ....Jono is too good to play off 10....but like I said, keep it at 10 until after the 2005 Holden Scramble), I'm deciding if I'm going to use it to enter some Long-Drive comps, or just donate it back at the next event at The Vintage.......

5. TS, you owe me a beer........I drink 50/50 Old/New...... :twisted: I'll collect next time we play 8)

6. FishDan got over his L.O.F.T problem after the 5th and really played well.......several near misses with the Lob Wedge otherwise he was well on his way to 40 points......

ANyway, thats all I can think of for now.....Thanks again to everyone who played, it was tons of fun....and I look forward to the net one......

Later

Speirsy

TS
13th December 2004, 08:43 AM
Speirsy

No Problem, remind me at New Brighton.

McMw
13th December 2004, 09:40 AM
so...what did I miss??? the SMT head was for Best Gross???
Best Net I think - we put in $10 each (the comp fee was only $8 - great value!)

then wouldn't the winner be jono???

sorry...not raining on anyone's parade here...just trying to see how this was worked out... :wink:

Speirsy11
13th December 2004, 09:46 AM
so...what did I miss??? the SMT head was for Best Gross???
Best Net I think - we put in $10 each (the comp fee was only $8 - great value!)

then wouldn't the winner be jono???

sorry...not raining on anyone's parade here...just trying to see how this was worked out... :wink:

Jono felt that he didnt deserve the SMT head because it was his home course I guess, not sure why, you'll have to ask him......So he gave it to me....

Anything else?

McMw
13th December 2004, 09:51 AM
Jono felt that he didnt deserve the SMT head because it was his home course I guess, not sure why, you'll have to ask him......So he gave it to me....

cheers... :D
figured that was the case... :wink:

jono - what a champ!!! =D>

Trung
13th December 2004, 09:55 AM
Jono,

What were the scores for Par Event?

Group 1...
Amanda 0 (-1,+1) Won our group on countback
Trung 0 (+1,-1)
Geoff 0 (+3, -3)
Fishead -10 (-4, -6)

Rgs,

Trung

Speirsy11
13th December 2004, 10:05 AM
Jono was +6, I was +1.........Not sure about Dan -2 maybe? (Sorry if it was +2 Dan :oops: )

Speirsy11

Fishman Dan
13th December 2004, 10:45 AM
Jono was +6, I was +1.........Not sure about Dan -2 maybe? (Sorry if it was +2 Dan :oops: )

Speirsy11

+2 ! :twisted: :lol:

With the choke on the last too - should have been +3 :(

L.O.F.T. - probably the harshest, but fairest thing anyone has said to me recently. ;) :lol:

Speirsy11
13th December 2004, 11:04 AM
I think everyone will agree that at some point, at some level of golf, we've all struggled with L.O.F.T :lol:

Speirsy11

Virgal_Tracy
13th December 2004, 12:06 PM
I don't struggle with L.O.F.T. It comes quite naturally to me. Had a great day and the golf didn't totally stuff up the walk. I think my day was shown that I played the par 5's in 4+ two of them were pars and the first included a penalty stroke for in the water.
TS was totally unsociable and didn't join myself, jimandr and Brad in the creek.

Thanks for the photo's Jono. I didn't realise that I had fallen into bad habits again. Thanks also for organising the day.

If anyone thought that Dan was unlucky with his lobbie then they didn't see Jimandr's ball get so scared of the fall to the bottom of the cup that it literally turned and ran away.

A great day. Let's all do it again, although New Brighton with all of its trees scares me. No wonder Brad played so well from the trees including a birdie after being inside, under and around a group of them.

Trung
13th December 2004, 12:19 PM
TS was totally unsociable and didn't join myself, jimandr and Brad in the creek.

I don't blame him :lol:

Jono
13th December 2004, 12:47 PM
so...what did I miss??? the SMT head was for Best Gross???
Best Net I think - we put in $10 each (the comp fee was only $8 - great value!)

then wouldn't the winner be jono???

sorry...not raining on anyone's parade here...just trying to see how this was worked out... :wink:

I was always going to exclude myself from the chance to win the prize ... I have enough SMT drivers already! :lol: I felt it was a bit unfair for me to know exactly where to hit/miss the tee shots and approach shots, the carry distances over water and doglegs, and exactly what line to take on blind shots. Anyway, Ozgolf braggin rights are worth more than golf clubs any day ... :lol:

BrisVegas
13th December 2004, 12:50 PM
OK, so what's this LOFT thing ?

My guess is Lack Of F... Talent... :?

Jono
13th December 2004, 12:52 PM
Jono.....GREAT day my friend......You are the worlds worst 3hcp, but by far the BEST 10 I've ever played with.....Holden Scramble here we come!
Speirsy

Thanks ... that's a compliment, right? :wink: I've been undergoing swing changes (and putting stroke change :shock: :lol: ) for the past 6 months with the help of a pro. It's still a little shakey but I'm getting there. I need a little buffer in my handicap until I get more consistent. :wink:

Glad to hear that everyone enjoyed themselves ... Hope we can get together for another Ozgolf day soon.

Jono
13th December 2004, 12:56 PM
Jono,

What were the scores for Par Event?

Group 1...
Amanda 0 (-1,+1) Won our group on countback
Trung 0 (+1,-1)
Geoff 0 (+3, -3)
Fishead -10 (-4, -6)

Rgs,

Trung

I was 6+, Speirsy 1+, and Fishman 2+. The comp amongst ourselves (both team event and individual) was scored in the stableford format, and I think this reflects things better. sorry if I didn't make that clear before the game.

amanda
13th December 2004, 01:05 PM
Glad to hear that everyone enjoyed themselves ... Hope we can get together for another Ozgolf day soon.

Are you free for Thur 23rd? Otherwise - we can't wait to play Bayview again on the 27th! :D

Fishman Dan
13th December 2004, 01:25 PM
OK, so what's this LOFT thing ?

My guess is Lack Of F... Talent... :?

Spot on there mate ;)

I started pretty 'cool' with the putter. Spiersy kinda suggested that it was the LOFT - as i was holding my putter i didn't really know where he was heading until he explained... :oops:

Everyone was leaving putts short all day ... plenty of rain Friday and 2 days of very warm weather, you could almost watch it growing.

Trung
13th December 2004, 02:00 PM
Checked score on the paper. Jono lost on a c/b :( (6up)

Fishman Dan
13th December 2004, 02:26 PM
Checked score on the paper. Jono lost on a c/b :( (6up)

Geez, that's a shame. More importantly, did I win a ball with +2?! 8)

Trung
13th December 2004, 02:33 PM
Checked score on the paper. Jono lost on a c/b :( (6up)

Geez, that's a shame. More importantly, did I win a ball with +2?! 8)

Will cost you more in petrol to collect that ball :lol:

Fishman Dan
13th December 2004, 02:37 PM
Checked score on the paper. Jono lost on a c/b :( (6up)

Geez, that's a shame. More importantly, did I win a ball with +2?! 8)

Will cost you more in petrol to collect that ball :lol:

Only if we drive on the edge like you ;) I am my father's son, i like to get optimum performance out of my fuel. Besides, it's more the point that i haven't even been in a ball rundown for many-a-moon!

Point taken though - it would have only been something like a TopFlite 3000 ;) :lol:

Trung
13th December 2004, 02:48 PM
Only if we drive on the edge like you ;)

Ok ok, I was a little too close to TS on the way down Mona Vale Road.

Mind you, The Whites (Brad&Amanda) were in the hot up Subaru behind me.

Amanda was complaining to Brad that I'm too slow :? . Could you imagine if Amanda was on the wheel behind TS? :shock:

:D

amanda
14th December 2004, 07:52 AM
Mind you, The Whites (Brad&Amanda) were in the hot up Subaru behind me.

Amanda was complaining to Brad that I'm too slow :? . Could you imagine if Amanda was on the wheel behind TS? :shock:
:D

Hey - I'm not a tail-gater - happy to go fast though :D (my dad used to race cars in his younger days)

TS
14th December 2004, 08:46 AM
Mind you, The Whites (Brad&Amanda) were in the hot up Subaru behind me.

Amanda was complaining to Brad that I'm too slow :? . Could you imagine if Amanda was on the wheel behind TS? :shock:
:D

Hey - I'm not a tail-gater - happy to go fast though :D (my dad used to race cars in his younger days)

Looks like we may need to organise a day at the race track to see who is a better driver behind the wheels, other than driver of the golf ball.

amanda
14th December 2004, 10:40 AM
Looks like we may need to organise a day at the race track to see who is a better driver behind the wheels, other than driver of the golf ball.
Tried go-karting once - I'm actually hopeless at it - feel more comfortable with a whole car surrounding me :lol:

jimandr
14th December 2004, 09:48 PM
Now that I'm part of this community, let me make some comments.

Firstly, having used my broadband allocation this month, the "reduced to dial-up speed" deal I'm on meant it took me a long, long, long time to read all 11 pages of posts.

I haven't seen all the photos, and none of mine. I hope they are still viewable in two weeks time.

Unlike most, I took notice of Jono's fabulous course guide, even though I hadn't read it at the time. Being a player who doesn't carry it 230, I played the short holes conservatively, except for the third. I hit a driver out of bounds there, and may not have done if I'd read the Guide first.

To answer the question asked: I was 205m away on the first, about 170 to carry the pond, with Jono's warning ringing in my ears that I had to go for it from there. I hit precisely the opposite shot to what I was attempting, a low draw instead of a high fade, and lost my only Pro V1 ball. I did, however, make a miracle recovery by hitting a sand wedge to 2 feet. Virgal Tracy did exactly the same thing from the other side of the fairway.

amanda
15th December 2004, 06:32 AM
I haven't seen all the photos, and none of mine. I hope they are still viewable in two weeks time.
Hey Jim! Yes - everything will still be here in 2 weeks :D

Fishman Dan
15th December 2004, 07:52 AM
....with Jono's warning ringing in my ears that I had to go for it from there

Well there was the first mistake ;)

Jono
15th December 2004, 07:42 PM
Unlike most, I took notice of Jono's fabulous course guide...

Thank you. It's nice to be appreciated ... :wink: :lol:

Welcome aboard, Jim. What took you so long? :wink: You'll find the atmosphere more friendly, relaxed, and fun ... an then there are the QLDers ... :lol:

Jarro
15th December 2004, 10:13 PM
Unlike most, I took notice of Jono's fabulous course guide...

Thank you. It's nice to be appreciated ... :wink: :lol:

Welcome aboard, Jim. What took you so long? :wink: You'll find the atmosphere more friendly, relaxed, and fun ... and then there are the QLDers ... :lol:

settle Doc ..... settle [-X

Fishman Dan
20th December 2004, 08:03 AM
Did everyone have their card returned to their home club? I checked the computer at Fox the other day, and no mention of my (handicap beating ;)) round at BayView.

Just want to work out where the delay is, although i have my suspicions.. :roll:

amanda
20th December 2004, 08:28 AM
I don't see anything from the Bayview round on Golflink. Mind you, Shellharbour never came back either!

Fishman Dan
20th December 2004, 08:32 AM
I don't see anything from the Bayview round on Golflink. Mind you, Shellharbour never came back either!

Not surprised about Shell Harbour seeing as though they appeared to be in strife for some time - and they probably didn't want to 'waste' money on returning cards.

Might give Bayview a call to see check.