Another Fake thread !!!

[3oneday]

Yep, here we are again, except this one is a little closer to home.... the ebayer (who also buys gear off ebay.com) reckons it is one he bought off me !!!!

Here are some pics of an R7 425 I alledgedly sold to him last year.... from what I can see there are only two things wrong.... the writing in and around the MWT and the fact the serial starts with an 8 and is on crooked. To the normal punter, this is a legit club which in itself is a great concern.

I still don't know if it is one of mine, but I swapped it out anyway and will send it back to the place I bought it in the next few days.

[Jarro]

Nice work Sherlock :smt023

[Colin]

I wouldn't have picked it at all. Even with them side by side, it's hard to tell a difference.

[3oneday]

I probably should say that I checked all my other clubs and they have the serial starting with 6, which indicates year of manufacture (for TaylorMade).

I feel I have possibly been diddled (by the buyer) but I can't prove otherwise so we will see what the supplier says.

[kpac]

yeah far too good for me, i would have taken it as legit. can anyone explain to me how going to that much effort to be exact could make ripping off a club profitable. That copy would have taken forever to produce, if these dills actually spent their time manufacturing a quality club rather than stuffing around copying one, they could make some legit money.... just my thought

[goughy]

I think you may find that often the molds/patents for some of these clubs are owned by the foundry/production company. So tm may not own the design as such. I read an article in a recent golf digest about this. One of the big club head producers in asia has a staff of over 60000. It's like a city of it's own and many actually live onsite in accomodation provided by the company. Callaway is one of it's clients.

The article mentions how the factory actually owns the molds on some of the designs. The writer went to a course not far away to look at the clubs in the pro-shop. Then 5 minutes away was another golf store selling identical clubs at a fraction of the cost (and he meant identical). You put your order in for your custom fit clubs then come back a month later and collect them.

[perci]

Yea Goughy that may be true but the Golf company's still own the Trademarks etc,and Kpac club heads are generally cheap to manufacture the reason they cost so much is R&D & Marketing including sponsorship witch as we know is shitloads.

[3oneday]

Usually with fakes they don't go the whole 9 yards, this one has the same ferrule, the TM REAX shaft AND the TM grip. Maybe there is an explanation from TM, one they made for a buddy accidentally or something. I found it interesting that the serial ends in GAM, like it means something.

[Grunt]

Usually with fakes they don't go the whole 9 yards, this one has the same ferrule, the TM REAX shaft AND the TM grip. Maybe there is an explanation from TM, one they made for a buddy accidentally or something. I found it interesting that the serial ends in GAM, like it means something.

Could it be the club they made for me they are my initials:p

[perci]

From the back door of the Chinese manufacturer Ching Ching.

[Jono]

Here's another reason for buying knockoffs ... You can't get a knockoff of a knockoff ... ;)

Or can you ... :shock:

:lol:

[Grunt]

Reckon these are legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220156702733&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

[Webster]

I was half expecting the clubs to be stamped "Creverand" considering where they are coming from...

[3oneday]

They look legit, Cleve are now more copied than Callaway these days !

[Grunt]

Really tempted but not sure of the legitimacy of them.

[3oneday]

They look legit, BUT Cleve are now more copied than Callaway these days !sorry, I missed an important word....

[Grunt]

So you think I should give them a miss Pete. Hate to say it but, would we be as worried if they were not being shipped from China?

[3oneday]

And the fact they don't know where they live ?? Item location: ??, ??, China :lol:

3 other no nos for you grant, 1) Western Union 2) TT Bank Wire 3) No Paypal.

If you do get the clubs, you have no recourse. If you don;t get the clubs... you have no recourse ;)

Good ruck with your purchase :)

[Grunt]

Good, those are the other reasons I was wary. Guess I just wanted to hear someone else see the same problems.

[poidda]

I'm an ebay novice, but does this look legit? Did Mizuno make MP-30 SW?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MIZUNO-MP30-IRONS-3-SW_W0QQitemZ160164173939QQihZ006QQcategoryZ36219QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[3oneday]

Seems not http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.nsf/AllProduct/2E49D12DB42AE3778525706F00667DC2?opendocument&div=golf&cat=irons

[markTHEblake]

How come i can see the bidders names in this Auction, yet on Poiddas auction can only see, Bidder1, bidder2 etc

[3oneday]

How come i can see the bidders names in this Auction, yet on Poiddas auction can only see, Bidder1, bidder2 etcit reaches an amount, I think $250 and hides the bidders. This is meant to stop other ebay seller hawking underbidders ;)

[markTHEblake]

it reaches an amount, I think $250 and hides the bidders. This is meant to stop other ebay seller hawking underbidders ;)

Sounds good, but cant be right, check this out.

Poiddas auction (ebay search on MP30) has never shown the bidders name at all, and still doesnt. I made one serious bid (basically felt guilty about telling him to open the auction at $0.01)

Anyhow today i receive an email from the purported 'seller' of this item, who recognises i was out bid, and wants to sell to me direct.

- the email address he used is not my ebay address
- they have just used my ebay username and obviously spammed common domains, and got a lucky hit.

The question that i have, is where the hell did this prat get my ebay username from? :shock:

This is the 2nd time i have received such an email. i string em along for a little while. 8)

[3oneday]

Did you bid before $250 ? It's visible until then but I get the same when I buy from a certain buyer in the usa. When I get outbid at some ridiculously low price they send me a 2nd chance offer, but it comes via my email and not ebay at all !

Shysters everywhere I guess.

[markTHEblake]

Ebay confirmed that just now, i first bid at $405 so the answer is no.

I was just in online chat with ebay, the lady said "easy, spoof emails, virus etc" what a load of BS. If it was that we would be getting 100;s of emails attracting us to random auctions.

I got onto someone else and they suggested I should email the details in, see what happens.

[Scoot]

Do you think that Ebay is selling your info, with the details of your bids?

[perci]

There is no $405 bid in Poidda,s Auction there is a $400 & a $410 witch one is you again?

[markTHEblake]

There is no $405 bid in Poidda,s Auction there is a $400 & a $410 witch one is you again?

It was $405 before I bid. I bid $410

Since when did you become a forensic financial analyst :shock: (except when doing a empty cans, esky content reconciliation)


Do you think that Ebay is selling your info, with the details of your bids?

No, as well as been obviously not, that would be a silly thing to think.

[PeteyD]

You think Perci doesn't disect Golf purchases?

[perci]

Ebay confirmed that just now, i first bid at $405 so the answer is no.


[QUOTE=markTHEblake;184375]It was $405 before I bid. I bid $410

Since when did you become a forensic financial analyst :shock: (except when doing a empty cans, esky content reconciliation)



Sorry oh great one i apologise for taking interest in the Auction!

[markTHEblake]

Theres been lots of interest, I have recieved emails from 5 different people now wanting to sell me these clubs. They are a busy bunch

[poidda]

Theres been lots of interest, I have recieved emails from 5 different people now wanting to sell me these clubs. They are a busy bunch

haha, and here I was going to send you a Second Chance offer as well! :)

[3oneday]

They are a busy bunchI got targeted for ages too, in the end I sent them something like "not everyone is a complete idiot, **** off and stop sending me this garbage" I haven't rec'd anything since :)

[3oneday]

Here's a Christmas special !!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220181632434

[pt73]

Gorn

[3oneday]

Saw that ;)

[3oneday]

Hey Gaz, tell me what you reckon about this one ???

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-G1O-DRIVER-9-DEGREE-STIFF-ALDILA-NV65-SHAFT-NEW_W0QQitemZ330199809014QQihZ014QQcategoryZ1515QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I've looked on US ebay and there is a hell of a lot of orange on this one, not to mention the matching Sharpro grip ???

[Jarro]

Looks pretty dodgy to me ..... and i'm not an Ebay junkie like you lot :mrgreen:

[gazgolf1]

Hey Gaz, tell me what you reckon about this one ???

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-G1O-DRIVER-9-DEGREE-STIFF-ALDILA-NV65-SHAFT-NEW_W0QQitemZ330199809014QQihZ014QQcategoryZ1515QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I've looked on US ebay and there is a hell of a lot of orange on this one, not to mention the matching Sharpro grip ???

There should'nt be any orange under the "10".
Looks fake to me,even the NV shaft looks a bit dodgy.

[Courty]

Goooooorn

[perci]

Another beauty.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Taylormade-Superquad-TP-Driver-9-5-Stiff-Shaft_W0QQitemZ170199008204QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1515 QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

[3oneday]

Yep, they're making good copies these days, but I wonder why they can't paint TP on the shaft ?

[perci]

I like the 2 different pics of the toe one with the first edition TP logo and one with 460! and the headcover and tool are fakes as well.

[pt73]

Have a look at these fake HX Tour balls, the morons have used a ball with round dimples instead of hexagonal.

Duh.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HIGH-QUALITY-BRAND-NEW-Callaway-Golf-Ball-HX-Tour-dozen_W0QQitemZ110229986911QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1583 67QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Matt 3 Jab]

Thats pretty funny

[Toolish]

Those Cally balls are a ripper...as for the superquad, I am not an ebay or TM specialist, what makes the head stand out as a fake?

[3oneday]

Apparently there were only 3,000 first editions made, but there must have been almost 30,000 sold ! It's more that you can't tell whether it is real or not that is the issue. Also, it has a REAX shaft, not a TP one, so the tip must be .350 not standard TP .335.

[Shaneo]

Have a look at these fake HX Tour balls, the morons have used a ball with round dimples instead of hexagonal.

Duh.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HIGH-QUALITY-BRAND-NEW-Callaway-Golf-Ball-HX-Tour-dozen_W0QQitemZ110229986911QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1583 67QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

these are classic.
i'm swing coach was in china a few years back and he found the same thing with pro v's.
one look and you can tell they're fake.
the cover looks more like top-flite x-out and they're as hard as rocks.
what will they think of next?

[kpac]

i've still got some of those HX tours if anyone's interested :roll:

[3oneday]

what will they think of next?Well, TM, Cally and Titleist have new products coming soon, that would be my guess ;)

[dc68]

Have a look at these fake HX Tour balls, the morons have used a ball with round dimples instead of hexagonal.

Duh.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HIGH-QUALITY-BRAND-NEW-Callaway-Golf-Ball-HX-Tour-dozen_W0QQitemZ110229986911QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1583 67QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Andy is this your cousin?

[3oneday]

Sounds like his Babel Fish is ill :lol:

[pt73]

Too funny. His engrish need some work too, it's fake as well.

[boomerang]

I was half expecting the clubs to be stamped "Creverand" considering where they are coming from... So what your saying is all items from your country should have kangaroo's stamped on them?

[perci]

So what your saying is all items from your country should have kangaroo's stamped on them?

Preez exprane?

[boomerang]

Sure is ironic to see that ya'll are the same as ya'll are portrayed,that means mimicked in case you didn't know,on T.V.

[SupaSubi]

sounds like a nerve has been touched.

good ol' aussie humour at work again :)

[Toolish]

So Boomerang...where are you from...deep south in America?

[boomerang]

sounds like a nerve has been touched.

good ol' aussie humour at work again :) No not a nerve. I'm just sick and tired of wasting my time registering on forums only to find out they are occupied by retards and racist morons. See ya :roll:

[poidda]

No not a nerve. I'm just sick and tired of wasting my time registering on forums only to find out they are occupied by retards and racist morons. See ya :roll:

:-({|=

[3oneday]

So, this is one Boomerang that won't come back ?? :lol:

[Jarro]

And he only made 7 posts ... that has to be some kind of record !

[Toolish]

No not a nerve. I'm just sick and tired of wasting my time registering on forums only to find out they are occupied by retards and racist morons. See ya :roll:

Big call coming from some one who claims to play regularly at Augusta, which for a long time has been both racist and sexist...

[Jarro]

Nice touch Tooly :smt023

[perci]

Who was that Masked Man!

[poidda]

Who was that Masked Man!

=;

[kpac]

you're up to 9 now boom-boy, bugger off while the going's good pal.

[Bruce]

Mods - can you rename him to Stick?

[poidda]

Mods - can you rename him to Stick?

:smt018 That's Stickist Bruce.

[Jarro]

He's gone.

I've performed my first 'banning'

mannnnnn it feels good too :smt023

[Toolish]

So when someone gets banned all of their posts disappear...makes for some interesting reading!

[Jarro]

boomy didn't really contribute much at all mate, kinda like Fishy.

You didn't miss much at all ;)

[kpac]

boomy, kinda like Fishy.


subtle.....................8)

[3oneday]

There is a guy selling golf bags, very cool looking Mizuno and TM bags. Thought I might get one... so I asked him how legit they were... here is his reply !

Pete,

The bags we sell are made in the same place as the real bags are made, the only difference in them is that they do not have a serial number. As you can see in our feedback people love our bags and they are not fakes. They are made in the same place as the real bags. If you would like to do a buy it now and even save some money, you could go to our website at www.x x x x.com
There you can save like $5 on shipping.

Thanks,



So, they aren't real, but they aren't fake either ??? :confused:

[pt73]

Bags with a serial number ?????

[TS]

There is a guy selling golf bags, very cool looking Mizuno and TM bags. Thought I might get one... so I asked him how legit they were... here is his reply !

Pete,

The bags we sell are made in the same place as the real bags are made, the only difference in them is that they do not have a serial number. As you can see in our feedback people love our bags and they are not fakes. They are made in the same place as the real bags. If you would like to do a buy it now and even save some money, you could go to our website at www.x x x x.com
There you can save like $5 on shipping.

Thanks,



So, they aren't real, but they aren't fake either ??? :confused:

Some of the cheap golf bag are very poor quality. Driller bought a Nike stand bag when we went to Mission Hills couple years ago. The bag was $A30 and it look nice. But it started falling apart after about 3 months.

[Jono]

Some of the cheap golf bag are very poor quality. Driller bought a Nike stand bag when we went to Mission Hills couple years ago. The bag was $A30 and it look nice. But it started falling apart after about 3 months.

but was it made at the same place as the real bags? :roll:

:lol:

[TS]

but was it made at the same place as the real bags? :roll:

:lol:

We know it was made in the same country as the real thing.

[Jono]

We know it was made in the same country as the real thing.

Dodgy Chinese Crap ... :roll:

:lol:

[TS]

Dodgy Chinese Crap ... :roll:

:lol:

Those crappy golf bag is perfect for Fat Jap that plays 3 times a year, it will last for years.

[3oneday]

Doesn't every bag have a serial number ?



;)

[pt73]

Of course but the ones from that seller all have the same serial number.

:-)

[perci]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-complete-set-G10-NEW_W0QQitemZ160222477346QQihZ006QQcategoryZ1519QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

These look a bit ordinary!

[3oneday]

Be a brave man to bid on those.....

[perci]

4 clowns so far!

[mikezone13]

Ok, apart from the ZERO feedback rating and stock pics, what look suss?

[3oneday]

Ok, apart from the ZERO feedback rating and stock pics
nothing at all, but for $1600 those two alone are plenty enough risk :)

Interesting that a 2 iron was in the set, in reg ? Maybe he has no clubs for sale at all, my guess would be complete scam.

[3oneday]

Answer for the Ping question ?

http://www.dhgate.com/p_ff808081158b2ad801158eb0ebe6621d.html

[rick3003]

This one is a classic

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NIKE-GOLF-SASQUATCH-3-WOOD-15-deg-DIAMANA-USED_W0QQitemZ260226084087QQihZ016QQcategoryZ36214 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[pt73]

As is this one, only AUD 165 shipping and the English is a cracker.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/up-to-date-zingy-attractive-golf-club_W0QQitemZ260228266336QQihZ016QQcategoryZ18930 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But there's more:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2008-fangle-top-grade-golf-club_W0QQitemZ260228262973QQihZ016QQcategoryZ18930 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2008-fangle-top-grade-golf-club_W0QQitemZ260228262416QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15513 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Dazza]

And what are they selling here- 1x 7 Iron, or a complete set?
The latter I'd think, considering the $375 freight charge.
They won me over with the fancy gift offer.



as a new seller on ebay eagering to make friend. whatelse you bid my items in my account, I will give a fancy gift to you. those fancy gifts can collect or send for presents to your relative and friend. what are they?a fine bracelet, a charming necklace, or a antique delegating China? please expecting, give my love and bless to you and your friends and your family!


encourage me, friends.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260228262973&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr12_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=260228266336&itemcount=12&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CategoryProximity&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=its%3DS%252BI%252BSS

[pt73]

And an up-to-date zingy one too. The descriptions are a classic.

[3oneday]

I like the word "honorific", any hints on what they are selling ?

I think his Babel fish has food poisoning :lol:

[Dazza]

While we're at it.... Do these bucket hats look legit?
It seems a bit strange to me that the logo would be A) That small, and B) That close to the seam on the hat.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CALLAWAY-LADIES-GOLF-TENNIS-BUCKET-HAT-MID-GREEN-LIME_W0QQitemZ330068512742QQihZ014QQcategoryZ47314 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247Q QcmdZViewItem


EDIT- Seems legit, as others are listing the same hats.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-ladies-womens-CALLAWAY-GOLF-bucket-boonie-HAT-CAP_W0QQitemZ140143438630QQihZ004QQcategoryZ37755Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQ cmdZViewItem

But then there's this!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LADIES-CALLAWAY-GOLF-BUCKET-HAT-RRP-24-99_W0QQitemZ170183832817QQihZ007QQcategoryZ14106QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQc mdZViewItem

[pt73]

He's back with more fangled and vogue golf stuff but his shipping is competitive, only $788 on item #3.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/up-to-date-vogue-golf-club-bag_W0QQitemZ260228274380QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1519QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/up-to-date-vogue-golf-club-bag_W0QQitemZ260228273772QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14105Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2008-fangle-top-grade-golf-club_W0QQitemZ260228272014QQihZ016QQcategoryZ18930 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[3oneday]

Rude shock coming up :( http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-G10_W0QQitemZ280216245537QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1519QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I hope they have Paypal protection :lol:

[pt73]

Funny thing is that the auction for G10s but the real photos are of I10s.

[3oneday]

This is a scarier one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320237569905&fromMakeTrack=true

the real R7 st comes with a REAX 60, I played golf a week ago with a guy who had a fake Superquad, it had a REAX 65 just like these http://www.dhgate.com/p_ff8080811914873201191ecd10b7344d.html

It had the TM stickers on the shaft as well :shock:

[Toolish]

I wouldn't have picked that R7 st. Might have to start running any ebay purchases by the experts here from now on

[3oneday]

I've been in dialogue with the seller too, he said he bought all his stuff from a guy in the USA. The shaft is wrong, and the grip is in plastic, something TM don't do.

The trouble is to 95% of golfers fakes probably won't make the slightest bit of difference. The differences these days are minimal in looks at least. Not sure what shaft they are getting, but some of the TM ones are crap anyway :lol:

[goughy]

I wouldn't have the guts to buy clubs anywhere else anymore but here or from a shop!

Nothing about that club would have looked wrong to me. And he's got 100% feedback rating!

[3oneday]

Here is some new fangled stuff !!! :lol: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2008-fangle-top-grade-golf-club-set-13-Entrie_W0QQitemZ260229231425QQihZ016QQcategoryZ362 19QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[pt73]

And only AUD 788 delivery, where do I sign up. They have some other auctions offering 13 fangled wedges, what a bargain.

[perci]

Might need Alo's translation for this one.

[Eag's]

:lol: WTF??