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virge666
15th August 2023, 05:49 PM
So i watched my first women's footy match, and i have to say... penalty shoot outs don't do it for me.
Everyone of those girls who took the shot at goal did not have elation on their face after the actual kick, It was nothing but pure relief if they kicked the goal or totally gutted if they missed.

Once you go to penalties... it is a matter of who doesn't lose the match, not who wins it.

Hoping for a goal or 3 on Wednesday, this is no way to win a game.

TourFit
15th August 2023, 06:20 PM
As a former team penalty taker... I can say it's exciting, and is as much a test of technical skill and mental strength, and by that time of the game, fitness!

It's a lot harder if you're exhausted, legs are jelly and mind is fried. I can tell quite a lot those who miss by seeing them close-up beforehand

virge666
15th August 2023, 07:21 PM
As a former team penalty taker... I can say it's exciting, and is as much a test of technical skill and mental strength, and by that time of the game, fitness!

It's a lot harder if you're exhausted, legs are jelly and mind is fried. I can tell quite a lot those who miss by seeing them close-up beforehand

Fair enough.. brutal way to end 2 hours of dueling.

Johnny Canuck
15th August 2023, 08:17 PM
Fair enough.. brutal way to end 2 hours of dueling.

Agree. Play until someone scores.

markTHEblake
15th August 2023, 09:27 PM
Agree. Play until someone scores.
I sat through a 20 innings game of MLB, in PHX, i think it finished at around 2am. At least it wasnt cold.
Gosh, imagine having to watch a whole 2 hr Soccer game, then another 2hrs and then still keep going...

I have an idea, unlimited extra time until someone scores, but no goal keepers.

goonie
15th August 2023, 09:37 PM
how about start taking players off the field during OT?

jimandr
15th August 2023, 09:47 PM
I sat through a 20 innings game of MLB, in PHX, i think it finished at around 2am. At least it wasnt cold.
Gosh, imagine having to watch a whole 2 hr Soccer game, then another 2hrs and then still keep going...


Baseball has come up with quite a good solution by putting a runner on 2nd base in extra innings. But its a problem in every sport where a result must be obtained, and every fan of the eventual losing team wants the system changed so that their team wins.

The best minds in soccer/football have struggled with the solution forever, and they seem to have decided that penalties after extra time is the way to go. It isn't great. but its probably better than watching two teams walking around after three hours because they are too tired to run.

The one thing I do know is that the TV ratings for all the other shows tomorrow night will be record lows.

markTHEblake
15th August 2023, 09:55 PM
Good thinking Jim, at least the penalty shootout provides an almost guaranteed finish time. and who can ever forget Scott Sterlings heroics, great drama!

sms316
16th August 2023, 10:40 AM
Penalties > the rest of a game

TourFit
16th August 2023, 11:08 AM
Agree. Play until someone scores.

They had the "Golden Goal" rule at one time... whereby a goal in extra time won the game. It was supposed to encourage the teams to press for a goal, but did the opposite and made defensive play,
and not conceding a goal, more prominent. They also floated a thought of removing a player each team every 5 mins or so to create more space, but that never got off the ground.

With the playing schedules that the teams and players have now, especially in Europe, and the TV rights being so huge and influential, it seems like they want a definitive END time for a game, and so
penalties have stayed. Personally, I love them!!!

goonie
16th August 2023, 11:25 AM
Penalties is OK, I would love to see them at least experiment with reducing the number of players, maybe even in normal game time, anything to reduce the number of nil all draws.

ParkRoyal
16th August 2023, 01:03 PM
Penalties is OK, I would love to see them at least experiment with reducing the number of players, maybe even in normal game time, anything to reduce the number of nil all draws.

It was nil all the other night and it didn't lessen the drama and intensity of the game, nothing wrong with nil all results. Not saying there aren't shit nil all games either, but no need to artifically try and change that.
Penalties aren't perfect, but at least they mimick an action that can happen in a game. Where as arbitrarily removing players or golden goal don't. For those intereseted, the US did try to 'change' soccer back in the 70's by having shootouts similar to ice hockey to resolve draws.

Anyways, Its been a bloody great World Cup, but lets hope it gets even better tonight!

Dotty
16th August 2023, 01:25 PM
As a non-watcher of most sports, I saw the first half at the club last night and assumed it was play-off for 7th and 8th, as it was a waste of time.

Cut the games back to two 20 minute halves, then use the second 45 minutes for any extra time and a shootout.

And I get to watch Matlock at the regular start time.

goughy
16th August 2023, 03:34 PM
I didn't really get suffer until my son started playing juniors for a while, and we went to a few senior local games and to see the roar. I kinda got it after all that.
But I'm not a sport watcher. And yeah, while the scores don't have to be AFL like, it is a lot of effort for nil all results.

TourFit
16th August 2023, 05:30 PM
Not all 0-0 results are the same though... sometimes can feel like a win, other times a loss :roll:

thecollective
16th August 2023, 10:15 PM
England too good. Anyway, still plenty to play for, 3rd place is worth a fair bit


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jimandr
17th August 2023, 12:11 AM
England too good. Anyway, still plenty to play for, 3rd place is worth a fair bit


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Nah. Nobody cares about 3rd/4th playoffs, in any sport.

We lost fair and square to a better team. But a real positive is that perhaps the biggest sporting audience in Australian history got to see a magic Sam Kerr moment.

thecollective
17th August 2023, 12:23 AM
Nah. Nobody cares about 3rd/4th playoffs, in any sport.

We lost fair and square to a better team. But a real positive is that perhaps the biggest sporting audience in Australian history got to see a magic Sam Kerr moment.

Better looking team I might add as well, a few lionesses I would request ‘a very large portion yes!’


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Webster
17th August 2023, 08:16 AM
The “exotic” team pics of the Pommie lasses from a few years ago illustrate clearly what a tight knit group they are.

LeftyHoges
17th August 2023, 08:26 AM
The “exotic” team pics of the Pommie lasses from a few years ago illustrate clearly what a tight knit group they are.

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17th August 2023, 08:43 AM
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17th August 2023, 08:56 AM
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ParkRoyal
17th August 2023, 09:01 AM
Frustrating way to lose, mistakes cost the goals and Sam missing at least one sitter. But oh my how good her goal was.

AndyP
17th August 2023, 09:41 AM
Blokes talking about what the women look like rather than the game shows how far the women's game has come.

LeftyHoges
17th August 2023, 09:44 AM
Was a shame to go out that way, but that from Carpenter was an absolute howler, a schoolboy(girl?) error. Unless you're 100% certain you have the position and communication with your 'keeper to gather that ball, you hoof the ****ing thing across your body into touch.

Catley's marking for the last was fairly horrendous too. Even when she saw Russo collecting the ball she still made no effort to get across and push her wider and pressure the shot.

If you're going to set up and play a signature "defence-first", counter-attack style of football you can't be done by two goals like that.

sms316
17th August 2023, 10:01 AM
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markTHEblake
17th August 2023, 10:18 AM
the women soccer players will be demanding more money now that they perform better than the blokes.

TourFit
17th August 2023, 10:21 AM
Was a shame to go out that way, but that from Carpenter was an absolute howler, a schoolboy(girl?) error. Unless you're 100% certain you have the position and communication with your 'keeper to gather that ball, you hoof the ****ing thing across your body into touch.

Catley's marking for the last was fairly horrendous too. Even when she saw Russo collecting the ball she still made no effort to get across and push her wider and pressure the shot.

If you're going to set up and play a signature "defence-first", counter-attack style of football you can't be done by two goals like that.

100% agree Lefty. Poor errors at that level, basic stuff. Even in the first half, we just kept giving the ball away too easily when in possession, and often in dangerous positions.

It was the same in the first half against France, too. You can't press, win the ball back, and then give it away immediately without compromising any tactics or plans for the game. And it just needlessly tires out players.

But overall England were better on the night... tactically, technically and more experienced. Their game control was very good.

PS: Not bad analysis for a Gooner, well done! :wink:

goughy
17th August 2023, 11:50 AM
the women soccer players will be demanding more money now that they perform better than the blokes.

Saw an interview with a prior Matilda, who played in one of the cups where they made the quarters, and she said that tournament the players made $750 each.
The nettballers who just won the world cup in SA got zero. No prizemoney at all for that tournament.

virge666
17th August 2023, 01:13 PM
But a real positive is that perhaps the biggest sporting audience in Australian history got to see a magic Sam Kerr moment.

That was pretty sweet.

Gave everyone hope for a small amount of time.. and that goal was freaking awesome.

Ron Burgundy
17th August 2023, 01:52 PM
the women soccer players will be demanding more money now that they perform better than the blokes. So they should. That was the highest rating thing on TV in >20 years. More than half the country watched it. No socceroos match has ever come close.

LeftyHoges
18th August 2023, 08:35 AM
100% agree Lefty. Poor errors at that level, basic stuff. Even in the first half, we just kept giving the ball away too easily when in possession, and often in dangerous positions.

It was the same in the first half against France, too. You can't press, win the ball back, and then give it away immediately without compromising any tactics or plans for the game. And it just needlessly tires out players.

But overall England were better on the night... tactically, technically and more experienced. Their game control was very good.

PS: Not bad analysis for a Gooner, well done! :wink:

I might have played and coached a few games in my time, I like to think I know what I'm talking about.

Ron Burgundy
18th August 2023, 09:22 AM
I might have played and coached a few games in my time, I like to think I know what I'm talking about. Or it’s just that as an arsenal fan you have a lifetime of experience in analyzing teams that look good for a while but don’t actually lift the trophy.

LeftyHoges
18th August 2023, 09:26 AM
Or it’s just that as an arsenal fan you have a lifetime of experience in analyzing teams that look good for a while but don’t actually lift the trophy.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that I do "have a type".... :cry:

TourFit
18th August 2023, 10:11 AM
Or it’s just that as an arsenal fan you have a lifetime of experience in analyzing teams that look good for a while but don’t actually lift the trophy.

It could be worse... he could support Spurs :roll:



It's becoming increasingly apparent that I do "have a type".... :cry:

Getting closer though...

DMG
18th August 2023, 03:05 PM
Blokes talking about what the women look like rather than the game shows how far the women's game has come.

Well played...

goughy
25th August 2023, 08:40 PM
Matildas have gone from 10th in the world to 11th.

TheNuclearOne
30th August 2023, 10:37 PM
Matildas have gone from 10th in the world to 11th.


That might hold the statue up.