New iron set - off the rack?

[Underdog76]

Hi fellas, Im a very average player (HC is 22), im going to purchase some irons, Im probably going to just buy off the rack, there are some good deals on iron sets at the moment but due to lockdown, cant go and test them. Was thinking either Callaway Mavrik or TM Sim2.
Do you think I should wait until I can test them for myself? Im thinking just to buy one of these sets, you cant really go wrong with either of these sets right.

[Johnny Canuck]

You can get sets bent, extended, etc, after purchase, but I'd recommend getting something that is suited to you.

I generally hit a straight ball and recently I hit some clubs that were upright and it was giving me a 15-30m draw depending on the club. I'm standard length and lie, so I guess I could purchase off the rack without too much of an issue, but it wouldn't be the best thing for you.

[3Puttpete]

Hi fellas, Im a very average player (HC is 22), im going to purchase some irons, Im probably going to just buy off the rack, there are some good deals on iron sets at the moment but due to lockdown, cant go and test them. Was thinking either Callaway Mavrik or TM Sim2.
Do you think I should wait until I can test them for myself? Im thinking just to buy one of these sets, you cant really go wrong with either of these sets right.

A man after my own heart. Buy whichever is most forgiving. If they’re too long, grip down. Too short, use a longer club and don’t swing as hard.

[thecollective]

Underdog; both those sets are no where near as good as the Srixon ZX series. I strongly recommend the ZX-5's for you, I have a ZX-7 set and it has been really impressive

[markTHEblake]

If you really must buy off the shelf, just buy the one you like best so yes you should try them out. The things that matter the most are swingweight, flex and lie angle and thats not determinable by anyone else other than a fitter or yourself

[PerryGroves]

Ignore all the bollocks, if you are normal height and a "relative" beginner, grab some clubs from the ozgolf pro shop. When you aren't topping them or hitting them fat or sideways, that is, you have dropped your handicap to 12 or lower, go get fitted.

[Captain Nemo]

Got some Ping i3+ that sound right up your alley!

[Ron Burgundy]

Ignore all the bollocks, if you are normal height and a "relative" beginner, grab some clubs from the ozgolf pro shop. When you aren't topping them or hitting them fat or sideways, that is, you have dropped your handicap to 12 or lower, go get fitted. This sounds about right. Stock is fine if you’re anything close to average height but don’t buy new from a big box store. Depreciation on golf clubs is worse than cars. Find something you like the look of, then look for their equivalent version from 2 years ago and find a set on gumtree it eBay. Or better yet put a wanted ad up on here. The tech in them will be exactly the same but it’ll be half the price.

[BobsYourUncle]

I'll add a few things: 1) srixon are great, make sure you give them a chance 2) everyone is right that you can save heaps by buying 2nd hand and get clubs that are just as good 3) but if you have the cash and want something shiny, there's nothing wrong with that (but you'll get better faster by spending the money on lessons)

[pt73]

Some manufacturers are quoting really long lead times for custom orders, if they don’t do them locally.

Ping Australia are quoting lead times of between 4 and 12 weeks depending on the product.

[BobsYourUncle]

I waited about 6 weeks for a srixon z forged 5 iron a few months ago. About the same for a custom odyssey putter before that.

[Underdog76]

Underdog; both those sets are no where near as good as the Srixon ZX series. I strongly recommend the ZX-5's for you, I have a ZX-7 set and it has been really impressive Thanks corntyq5, what's the difference between the ZX 7s and 5s etc

[BobsYourUncle]

ZX 7s are the less forgiving/"player's" style aimed at lower handicaps. I wouldn't recommend those for a 22 handicap. ZX 5s are more game improvement - still lovely forged irons, but are a lot more forgiving. ZX 5s are for a similar target audience as your SIMs/Mavriks (but are much better irons IMHO).

[Sydney Hacker]

I haven’t seen them, but srixon has also released the ZX4’s which might be better suited, they are the full game improvement offering.

[Hatchman]

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[3Puttpete]

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[simmsy]

ZX4 are super forgiving. I just bought ZX5 and waited 8 weeks for them. If you are a relative beginner and don't really care about brand then i'd just go the 2 year old iron option. I'd also look to get something with a forged body so that they can be bent if you need them to be. Look for Srixon Z545 or 565.

[thecollective]

The ZX-5's are going cheap enough at the moment on Golfbox, I would not fart around with older models, the price saving will be minimal.

They're also one inch above standard length, if this is too long its dead easy to trim them down.

Just do it

[Kelsey86]

I've been wondering about this as well. I play off about 18 at the moment, but I feel like I can drop that to single figures with lessons and fitted clubs quicker than simply buying forgiving irons... so I'm leaning towards the former. Thoughts?

[Johnny Canuck]

I've been wondering about this as well. I play off about 18 at the moment, but I feel like I can drop that to single figures with lessons and fitted clubs quicker than simply buying forgiving irons... so I'm leaning towards the former. Thoughts?

I think the lessons should come first before a fitting.

You could end up changing your swing to a point that the clubs wouldn’t be the best fit for you.

Ultimately, a decent swing will be able to get good results with any club, you can just fine tune it afterwards.

[Daves]

I think the lessons should come first before a fitting.

You could end up changing your swing to a point that the clubs wouldn’t be the best fit for you.

Ultimately, a decent swing will be able to get good results with any club, you can just fine tune it afterwards.

And lessons are only any good if you allow time to practice and ingrain the changes. Using clubs you know through this process give you a known starting base on your striking, ball flight etc. If the teaching Pro is any good, they should identify any major club issues during your lessons.

[DMG]

Personally (and it's very subjective of course), I think super game improvement/'really forgiving' irons are overrated. As a 23 HC I much prefer hitting player profile clubs. The SGI's may give me some better results, sometimes... but there is a lot to be said for feeling comfortable and confident at address, which is what player profile clubs do better for me.

Agree that lessons (from a GOOD teacher) would be money better spent, if (like Daves has said) you spend the time to practice what you're being taught. Muscle memory if a huge part of the golf swing, and you obviously want that memory doing the right thing for you.

As a wise man once said... “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”

[Kelsey86]

I think the lessons should come first before a fitting. You could end up changing your swing to a point that the clubs wouldn’t be the best fit for you. Ultimately, a decent swing will be able to get good results with any club, you can just fine tune it afterwards. I was thinking lessons first then get fitted, I'd rather have a more consistent swing first, otherwise I'll more than likely just have the same issues with different clubs.

[markTHEblake]

Personally (and it's very subjective of course), I think super game improvement/'really forgiving' irons are overrated. As a 23 HC I much prefer hitting player profile clubs. Good point but it depends on other things too. If a novice goler generates a lot of speed and is steep, shovels are not going to suit. On the other hand if he is a geriatric old hack then thats what he needs.

I have what most would call fairly high on the scale Game Improvement irons that look like blades, Maltby DBM.

[rickie prowler]

Stuart’d is selling a set of zx7s on this site which may be up your alley mate

[NewyMitch]

If you're in Sydney something like this would be perfect.

Mizuno 8 golf clubs HMB - MP-20's,
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-city/golf/mizuno-8-golf-clubs-hmb-mp-20-s/1275864514?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky

Price: $1,100

[BobsYourUncle]

If you're in Sydney something like this would be perfect.Mizuno 8 golf clubs HMB - MP-20's,https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-city/golf/mizuno-8-golf-clubs-hmb-mp-20-s/1275864514?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_stickyPrice: $1,100 Gee that's a good buy. Can't tell what the shafts are though.

[Ferrins]

El Casco
18 karat gold pencil sharpener
Highlights
gold/black
18 karat gold
gold-tone hardware
engraved logo
single rounded handle to the side
Composition
18kt Gold 100%

[Sydney Hacker]

Gee that's a good buy. Can't tell what the shafts are though.

So a mate of mine bought these today and has some concerns if they are real or not. Looking at them my main concern is they are meant to be in a brushed steel finish which these do not appear to be.

For the HMB’s they also appear to have a pretty narrow sole.

Anyone got any opinions?
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[NewyMitch]

So a mate of mine bought these today and has some concerns if they are real or not. Looking at them my main concern is they are meant to be in a brushed steel finish which these do not appear to be.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've only got a 4 iron to compare against.

[DMG]

So a mate of mine bought these today and has some concerns if they are real or not. Looking at them my main concern is they are meant to be in a brushed steel finish which these do not appear to be.

For the HMB’s they also appear to have a pretty narrow sole.

Anyone got any opinions?
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The etching on the hosel screams fake to me. It's completely different from what you can see on pics on the Mizuno website (and of Mitch's 4 iron).

[Webster]

Is there a serial number on the hosel?

[pt73]

It’s usually on one of the ferrules with Mizuno.

[Webster]

On this model should be laser etched on the steel.

[Sydney Hacker]

Just rang him, definitely no serial numbers etched in, he has been done well and truly unfortunately, talked into paying cash instead of PayPal…

[NewyMitch]

Just rang him, definitely no serial numbers etched in, he has been done well and truly unfortunately, talked into paying cash instead of PayPal…

Bugger!
Unfortunately it should probably read "GF FORGED CHROMOLY" on the hosel.

Tell your mate to keep as many of the details of the seller as possible. He can also report the ad to gumtree who will give you an ad reference for a police report. I've been down this path and it's definitely one worth pursuing.

Edit: they look like Wish Mizuno irons:
https://www.wish.com/product/5f1e67e0f9cc7baec7eb1c7e?hide_login_modal=true&share=mobileweb

[Johnny Canuck]

Bugger!
Unfortunately it should probably read "GF FORGED CHROMOLY" on the hosel.

Tell your mate to keep as many of the details of the seller as possible. He can also report the ad to gumtree who will give you an ad reference for a police report. I've been down this path and it's definitely one worth pursuing.

Edit: they look like Wish Mizuno irons:
https://www.wish.com/product/5f1e67e0f9cc7baec7eb1c7e?hide_login_modal=true&share=mobileweb

And Wish pay to advertise on Gumtree. Circle of life.