Benefits of Wedge Fitting

[WT90]

Hi guys -

Been playing since the begging of 2020, although not as much as I'd like thanks to COVID. Brought a full set, was fitted for everything bar my wedges (Callaway JAWS MD5) and just brought off the shelf and adjusted for height.

I'm a high handicapper (23) but working at getting lower (hoping to be off 18 by years end). Could someone tell me what the benefits would be of getting a full fitting done (if any) or if i should stick to what i have and improve my technique/skill with them.

Any advice / pointers would be great :).

Thanks.

[BobsYourUncle]

I think distance gapping would be the most obvious benefit, assuming you hit full shots with all your wedges. Maybe bounces too based on your swing, the types of shots you want to play, and the course(s) you play on.

[AD23]

Gday. Lots of benefits to have the wedges (scoring clubs) fitted properly. Shaft weight and bend profile, head design and sole type to suit your technique and conditions, along with feel and quite a bit more.


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[Captain Nemo]

Loft and bounce is the key.....
NB I’m just a chopper though so don’t take my word!

[thecollective]

Don’t underestimate length too, makes a big difference


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[wizard_of_oz]

I'll go against the grain and say club fitting especially for any player above double digit handicap is a waste of money. Hell, I'm under 10 hcp and got fitted and think it's a waste of money. The only time I'll say that it would benefit is if you aren't an average height player or don't have proportionate arm length. Anyone else can get their handicap down to a low-mid handicap using off the rack clubs if they dedicate the time to practicing the short game and learning basic swing mechanics.

[Webster]

Hi guys -

Been playing since the begging of 2020, although not as much as I'd like thanks to COVID. Brought a full set, was fitted for everything bar my wedges (Callaway JAWS MD5) and just brought off the shelf and adjusted for height.

I'm a high handicapper (23) but working at getting lower (hoping to be off 18 by years end). Could someone tell me what the benefits would be of getting a full fitting done (if any) or if i should stick to what i have and improve my technique/skill with them.

Any advice / pointers would be great :).

Thanks.

Before anyone can give you a proper answer, we need to know what loft set up you are currently using and what you mean by "adjusted for height".

[sheezymaneezy]

My friend in Malaysia made a video about her wedge fitting. She plays on tour.
I found it to be quite interesting, as it's something I've never considered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsnnK4ijBs&t

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsnnK4ijBs&t)

[Captain Nemo]

Great, thanks for sharing...

[WT90]

Thanks everyone!

I'm 6ft5 with long arms (ex basketballer) so not your average golfing profile. All my wedges are 1.5inches above standard and I currently use:

- 50*, 10s
- 54* (bent to 55*), 10s
- 60*, 8c

I tend to hit full shots with all, however there seems to be a wide variety of consistency with my 55 and 60. The 50* tends be fine and can hit my number most often than not (accuracy is another issue!).

[spanner039]

Thanks everyone! I'm 6ft5 with long arms (ex basketballer) so not your average golfing profile. All my wedges are 1.5inches above standard and I currently use:- 50*, 10s- 54* (bent to 55*), 10s- 60*, 8c I tend to hit full shots with all, however there seems to be a wide variety of consistency with my 55 and 60. The 50* tends be fine and can hit my number most often than not (accuracy is another issue!).Your a freak, beside that 1.5” over is huge What shafts? Because if it’s those wedge flex things they would be an absolute fishing pole at 1.5 over

[WT90]

Haha! I have some weird anatomy.

They are Dynamic Gold s200's. My irons Apex19s are Elevate r95's.

[3Puttpete]

Hi guys - Been playing since the begging of 2020, although not as much as I'd like thanks to COVID. Brought a full set, was fitted for everything bar my wedges (Callaway JAWS MD5) and just brought off the shelf and adjusted for height.I'm a high handicapper (23) but working at getting lower (hoping to be off 18 by years end). Could someone tell me what the benefits would be of getting a full fitting done (if any) or if i should stick to what i have and improve my technique/skill with them.Any advice / pointers would be great :).Thanks. My stock answer is golf is hard, don’t complicate it but you’re crazy tall so the normal rules may not apply. Playing off 23 I’m gonna guess your biggest problem is hitting it straight. Fix that before you worry too much about the details. Also, stop hitting your 55 and 60 for full shots.

[3oneday]

WT90, what Pete said is true, pretty rare that you’d need to hit 55 and 60 full.

If you ever get to the range try hitting every club in your bag to the 90-100 mark (except the 55 and 60). Learn some finesse :) (plus it’s fun :))

[mrbluu]

Hi guys -

Been playing since the begging of 2020, although not as much as I'd like thanks to COVID. Brought a full set, was fitted for everything bar my wedges (Callaway JAWS MD5) and just brought off the shelf and adjusted for height.

I'm a high handicapper (23) but working at getting lower (hoping to be off 18 by years end). Could someone tell me what the benefits would be of getting a full fitting done (if any) or if i should stick to what i have and improve my technique/skill with them.

Any advice / pointers would be great :).

Thanks.Get short game lessons. No point getting fitted for new wedges if you have no idea how to use them....

[markTHEblake]

- 50*, 10s- 54* (bent to 55*), 10s- 60*, 8c Loft alone only paints half the picture. Whats the length and swingweight of each, and need to know the same details of your next iron too.

[BUSHY]

Get short game lessons. No point getting fitted for new wedges if you have no idea how to use them....

Yep.

- know what bounce is used for
- understand wedge delivery and what it does to the ball
- understand where to use what lofted wedge and where a 7 or 8 iron will work better.

Andrew Rice on YT is a good resource for this explained simply.

[mrbluu]

Yep.

- know what bounce is used for
- understand wedge delivery and what it does to the ball
- understand where to use what lofted wedge and where a 7 or 8 iron will work better.

Andrew Rice on YT is a good resource for this explained simply.Exactly!!!

[3Puttpete]

Did I miss a decimal point in there somewhere?

I could have sworn OP said he’s off 23 not 2.3.

The goal should be to get it anywhere on the green, not within a 2 feet circle around the hole with one bounce and spin.

[markTHEblake]

The goal should be to get it anywhere on the greenThats pretty much my goal too. But most of the time just happy to avoid going into the creek/lake over the back.

[3Puttpete]

Thats pretty much my goal too. But most of the time just happy to avoid going into the creek/lake over the back. It’s the creeks at the front which scare me

[Ferrins]

Yep.

Andrew Rice on YT is a good resource for this explained simply.

Found his advice useful, cheers.

[spanner039]

I just can’t comprehend that your gap wedge is the same length as Bluus 4 iron, how did you decide 1.5” over is right?

[mrbluu]

I just can’t comprehend that your gap wedge is the same length as Bluus 4 iron, how did you decide 1.5” over is right?Oi, I resemble that remark!![emoji1]

[Daves]

I just can’t comprehend that your gap wedge is the same length as Bluus 4 iron, how did you decide 1.5” over is right?

I am the same height as WT90 and my wedges are typically 1.5 to 2 inches over standard. I build them to an MOI target, so it is more about heft than height/arm length for me. I rarely hit a full wedge shot, the shot would have to be right on my number to even consider it.

[spanner039]

I am the same height as WT90 and my wedges are typically 1.5 to 2 inches over standard. I build them to an MOI target, so it is more about heft than height/arm length for me. I rarely hit a full wedge shot, the shot would have to be right on my number to even consider it.

Sure I get the MOI thing, just I’ve never played anything more than .5 anything more feels pretty awkward especially with wedges

[Ferrins]

Don't get what the big deal is about hitting a full wedge shot. Today was 106m out with good wind on my tail. Full 56* to 3ft sink putt, easy birdie.

[oldracer]

My stock answer is golf is hard, don’t complicate it but you’re crazy tall so the normal rules may not apply. Playing off 23 I’m gonna guess your biggest problem is hitting it straight. Fix that before you worry too much about the details. Also, stop hitting your 55 and 60 for full shots.
anyone over 6' is crazy tall to you tho :lol:

[oldracer]

another angle on the dangle, get a lesson and see what the pro says about your setup???

[Kelsey86]

Don't get what the big deal is about hitting a full wedge shot. Today was 106m out with good wind on my tail. Full 56* to 3ft sink putt, easy birdie. Me either, I routinely do it. I find it easier to hit a full swing with whatever club will go the distance instead of mucking around trying to judge how full of a swing will get there, although there are obviously times when I have to do that. And with chipping I'm always trying to get it as close to the hole as possible, just getting it "anywhere on the green" doesn't help me lower my scores. I'm not the most skilled player either but I enjoy the challenge.

[Ferrins]

Sure I get the MOI thing, just I’ve never played anything more than .5 anything more feels pretty awkward especially with wedges

Dave is the Johnathon Livingston Seagull of club testing.

[3Puttpete]

anyone over 6' is crazy tall to you tho :lol: I’m a tallist and proud of it

[Daves]

There is a company in the US that specialises in Tall Men golf;

http://www.tallmangolf.com/#!/page_splash

They build them up to 6 inches over standard. Anything over 1.5/2 inches you are starting to change the flex of your shafts big time. They have their own shafts built by True Temper.

http://www.tallmangolf.com/#!/page12more

As far as I am aware they only do Right Handed though.

[WT90]

Thanks again everyone, it seems that getting short game lessons will be the winner.

Oh, and i decided to go the 1.5 over based on the pro's advice where i have had swing lessons from.

Really appreciate everyone's input! Just for my infomation why are people against full wedge shots?

[mrbluu]

Just for my infomation why are people against full wedge shots?

Because they are shit that them!![emoji1787][emoji1787]

Wedges are supposed to be more controlled shots where you hit to a number not as far as you can.

[Hatchman]

I can't believe no ones bought up the obvious.
Get rid of the wedges and go with a chipper :D

[mrbluu]

I can't believe no ones bought up the obvious.
Get rid of the wedges and go with a chipper :DCos not everyone can smoke chipper like this guy!!!

https://youtu.be/SWPVq23LvJo

[markTHEblake]

Really appreciate everyone's input! Just for my infomation why are people against full wedge shots?Depends on what you call a wedge.... wedges >50 degrees are typically designed differently, have more bounce, heavier head. Your clubfitter will set thise wedges up differently if you prefer not to hit full shots with them.

[3Puttpete]

Just for my infomation why are people against full wedge shots? Golf is hard

[Dotty]

No problem playing 5 wedges at 100%.

It's easier when one's full clubhead speed is only 2/3 the speed of the young guns.

[wazamac]

I never hit full wedge. Rather a half or 3/4 8 or 9 iron.

Mainly because not talented enough and 90% chance of thinning it through. Take the risk out and play what is comfortable.

[Daves]

To me the issue with hitting full Wedges is the lofts take face angle beyond the 45* midpoint (i.e. the face is more up then forward) , so it is much easier to 1) slide the ball up the face 2) hit it fat or thin, 3) shank, toe it or sky it. Add in the lie you are dealing with, and the bounce and lie angle characteristics of the wedge and it all gets much harder to hit cleanly. Adding swing speed just makes it even harder. IMO for the average amateur, Wedges need to be about control, not hitting to a number. If I have a clean lie and the number (for an 85% swing is) is on, then I will consider hit a Gap Wedge, but rarely a Sand Wedge. But then only if I need to stop the ball quickly. If I have green to work with it would be 9i or PW every day of the week.

[3Puttpete]

No problem playing 5 wedges at 100%.It's easier when one's full clubhead speed is only 2/3 the speed of the young guns. It’s also easier when you’ve been playing for longer than 6 months and aren’t off 23.

[AndyP]

I've always tried to hit full wedges, especially the 50*, but I'm just a nuffie.

I've never been wedge fitted either.

[Ferrins]

To me the issue with hitting full Wedges is the lofts take face angle beyond the 45* midpoint (i.e. the face is more up then forward) , so it is much easier to 1) slide the ball up the face 2) hit it fat or thin, 3) shank, toe it or sky it. Add in the lie you are dealing with, and the bounce and lie angle characteristics of the wedge and it all gets much harder to hit cleanly. Adding swing speed just makes it even harder. IMO for the average amateur, Wedges need to be about control, not hitting to a number. If I have a clean lie and the number (for an 85% swing is) is on, then I will consider hit a Gap Wedge, but rarely a Sand Wedge. But then only if I need to stop the ball quickly. If I have green to work with it would be 9i or PW every day of the week.

Steven Bowditch (to win a bet )beat a guy off 5 just using a 56* wedge. He was 2 over on the front 9.

Not something I could match with driver only.🤡