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kwantfm
27th August 2006, 09:20 PM
Hi guys,

Thought you might be interested in a little head to head that I've been having between a number of different generations of Taylor Made driver. Unfortunately all heads and shafts are different so you'll have to take everything typed here with a pinch of salt.

The Drivers
1. Taylor Made R5 TP (retail) 450 cc 9.5* Fujikura Speeder 569 stiff;
2. Taylor Made R510 TP (retail) 390 cc 10.5* Aldila NV 75 stiff; and
3. Taylor Made R510 Tour issue 330 cc 10.5* Se Ri Pak Diamana (Diamana Blue Board 53) stiff.

Appearance
I am a big TM fan and all of these drivers look good to me. From address all have that classic TM shape... you either love it or hate it and I am in the former camp. The R510 Tour sits a hair open which I like, the R510 TP sits pretty much dead square, and the R5 TP is a little closed.

The 510 Tour is a 45" driver (due to the lightness of the shaft) and it really looks like I'm hitting a very, very long 3-wood. It's amazing what a few years and a few cubic centimetres have done in making this clubhead look very small. It does look fabulous though and the slightly open address position is very pleasing to the eye.

The 510 TP in terms of appearance is, to me, perfect. 390 cc is an ideal size visually for me. Nothing more to say.

The R5 TP does look large in this company. Having said that, I'm sure I could get used to it very quickly. It looks much smaller than the Nike SQ Tour I had a few drivers back. I find the slightly closed appearance a little off putting.

Sound and Feel
The 510 Tour is the most solid driver head I have ever hit. The sound is billet solid, very pleasing and not in the least tinky. It just feels like you have nutted every drive.

The R510 TP is pretty much the 510 Tour's equal in terms of feeling solid. No 460 cc driver head that I have hit has felt anywhere near as solid as these two drivers.

The R5 TP is certainly less solid feeling than the previous two drivers and I can't help but expect this from a 450 cc driver. It's just that little more tinky and hollow feeling, although I have no doubt that a few more rounds with this driver exclusively and my reservations would disappear.

Performance
In terms of forgiveness I find the R5 TP and R510 TP to be equally (that is very) forgiving. I found this surprising given the 60 cc advantage that the R5 TP has. Nevertheless, the R510 TP stands right up there with every contemporary driver I have hit in terms of forgiveness. The 510 Tour is noticeably less forgiving but still performs admirably.

In terms of launch the R510 TP is the lowest launch in this company. R510 Tour next highest and the R5 TP launches the highest. I thought that since the R5 TP was 1* less loft that it would produce launch equivalent to the other two drivers, but this was not the case (maybe due to the slightly closed set up position). With regard to spin and ballooning, the R510 TP and R5 TP look to produce very close to optimal trajectory for me. The 510 Tour does look to have significantly more spin.

Now for the most important part... DISTANCE! With a tail wind or with a cross wind, all of these drivers perform very well and on a par with any other modern drivers. It is into a head wind that one clear difference emerges. The 510 Tour is noticeably shorter (I'm talking 25-30 metres into a two club head wind) on solid strikes than the other two into a head wind. Both the R5 TP and R510 TP produce solid boring trajectories but the 510 Tour definitely starts to balloon into any sort of headwind. So the R510 TP performs as well as the R5 TP in all conditions.

Verdict
The R510 TP is staying in the bag. In terms of distance and forgiveness it ranks equal with the R5 TP but in terms of appearance and feel/sound it surpasses its newer brother. The R510 Tour will remain on the bench but will be taken out to play occasionally simply because of the pure feeling when hitting this driver - it really is a thing of beauty to hit one out of the centre with this driver.

Enjoy,
T

Jarro
28th August 2006, 05:36 AM
nice review Terence :)

They really are fantastic drivers !

BrisVegas
28th August 2006, 08:15 AM
Great review T. Is there a 460cc driver that feels solid? I've never hit one.

Courty
28th August 2006, 08:52 AM
Excellent work, T. I can't help wondering how much the performance of each club would be affected if each was tested with an identical shaft.

I must agree with the final verdict though. My R510TP is the perfect blend of size, shape & feel.

Jarro
28th August 2006, 11:48 AM
Is there a 460cc driver that feels solid? I've never hit one.

G5


:smt002

Courty
28th August 2006, 11:51 AM
:roll:

BrisVegas
28th August 2006, 12:08 PM
G5


:smt002

Turn it up champ, you do recall that I hat a hit with your G5... That's not what I call solid. :smt002

Jarro
28th August 2006, 12:20 PM
Geez you're a hard man to please Mr Vegas :roll:

Just pretend the G5 has a big TITLEIST written on the sole ;)

BrisVegas
28th August 2006, 12:33 PM
Geez you're a hard man to please Mr Vegas :roll:

Just pretend the G5 has a big TITLEIST written on the sole ;)

nup, still wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy the 905R either, so it's not about the brand name on it. For me, it doesn't work. It just seems to be that once drivers get up over 400cc, they lose that solid, "thwackiness". The FT3 came close, but sounded like I was hammering a tupperware container.

kwantfm
28th August 2006, 01:47 PM
This is why I'm thinking about the Ping Rapture... other than that no 460 cc head turns me on...

rick3003
28th August 2006, 04:04 PM
Great review T. Is there a 460cc driver that feels solid? I've never hit one.
Have you hit a Bridgey 460 driver. Of all the 460cc drivers the bridgey is by far the most solid.

Ducky
28th August 2006, 04:24 PM
Is there a 460cc driver that feels solid?
I would tend to agree when comparing it to a smaller driver (e.g. 350cc) that most 460cc drivers do not feel solid. However, once you get use to it I believe it does (I am referring to the Nike SQ in this case).

McMw
28th August 2006, 04:58 PM
nup, still wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy the 905R either, so it's not about the brand name on it. For me, it doesn't work. It just seems to be that once drivers get up over 400cc, they lose that solid, "thwackiness". The FT3 came close, but sounded like I was hammering a tupperware container.

hasn't stopped most pros going to 460cc tho...
I guess it's just a matter of finding the right 460cc driver...

I like the FT3 - hate the sound...
the Mizuno MP001 was great - but too shallow...

kwantfm
28th August 2006, 05:01 PM
rick3003,

You might remember that I sold you that Bridgey!

Cheers,
T

Webster
28th August 2006, 05:09 PM
Terence, you should have included the R580XD (and the R540xd as well) to make it a complete review.

kwantfm
28th August 2006, 05:57 PM
I used to own a 580 XD TP 8.5 but could never get a high enough launch and it also didn't feel quite as solid as the smaller heads. Have never treid a 540 XD TP.

BrisVegas
28th August 2006, 07:20 PM
Have you hit a Bridgey 460 driver.

Nope. I have resisted the pull of the dark side thus far. :)

rick3003
29th August 2006, 08:09 AM
rick3003,

You might remember that I sold you that Bridgey!

Cheers,
T
You did as did many others T. I am now looking for another.

990B Luva
31st August 2006, 04:35 PM
Hey T, i have a 540DF (XD Proto) for sale in my for sale thread.... btw great review

kwantfm
31st August 2006, 04:58 PM
990B Luva... noticed it buy 8.5 is way too low... have another TM coming though

Jarro
31st August 2006, 05:01 PM
990B Luva... noticed it buy 8.5 is way too low... have another TM coming though

oh really, do tell :mrgreen:

Webster
9th September 2006, 06:37 PM
What is the tip size on the R510 TP retail?

kwantfm
9th September 2006, 07:08 PM
What is the tip size on the R510 TP retail?

0.335

Jarro
9th September 2006, 07:34 PM
thinking of a reshaft are we Jack ?

3oneday
9th September 2006, 07:35 PM
thinking of a reshaft are we Jack ?aren't you at the footy ?

Jarro
9th September 2006, 07:38 PM
aren't you at the footy ?

No :(

long story ..............

Jarro
14th February 2009, 04:31 PM
So T, do you still believe the 510TP is the best driver out there ?

I'd be interested to hear how it stacks up against the newer Burner/909/FT range.