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Moe Norman
24th October 2016, 11:48 AM
For the last 12-18 months I've been playing some of the best golf of my life and I feel as though I have the ball on a string with Driver.

However, the number 1 thing letting me down is my wedge game. I've always been average from 30-60m, but I used to be adequate in the 70-100m range.

Now I'm woeful from 30-100m and I'm missing so many scoring opportunities as a result, because I am so frequently in the fairway in this range.

I was previously playing Ping G15 4-6 and i-15 7-U. I really liked the U wedge, and the PW was 46*. I then carried Ping Tour 54/60

I now use Ping i3 blades, as I am so much betteer with these from 4-W. I shoudl have just kept the U wedge from the i15s but I sold the set.

As a result, I am 3-PW and the PW is 47* and then carrying the 54/60 Ping Tours.

Originally I was planning on filling the gap between 47 and 54, but I seem to hit the PW about 115-120 and the 54 goes 100, and can stretch to 110m.

I'm absolutely terrible gripping down on the 54 to hit 70-90m shots and the 60* is a disaster from the fairway, I can hit it about 60m tops and it goes 60m in the air as well and I struggle to hit a low punch with it.

Seems crazy to carry a 56 or 58 and fill that gap, but I'm thinking of getting a 56.10 Ping wedge, and dropping the 60 or 3 iron. Or hunting down an OEM Ping i3 SW, but these are apparently 54!

I see my options as the following:

1. i3 wedge 47* - Ping 52/56/60
2. i3 wedge 47*, i3 U wedge, Ping 56/60
3. i3 wedge 47*, Ping 50/54/60
4. i3 wedge 47*, Ping 54/56/60
5. Get better with wedges


I lean towards Option 2 and 4 as they solve the obvious issues with yardage gaps, but an i3 U wedge could be hard to find (if anyone does a 3balls order, let me know!)

Option 4 seems silly as I'd be carrying 54/56/60 (3 wedges in a 6* window!)

anyone else have these problems? (or have a club that fits one of these options for sale?)

9anddone
24th October 2016, 12:06 PM
A 50 and a high bounce 58 (for sand) would fill your gaps and let you drop the 60.

That said you would probably fix everything with a new putter and driver. (did I do that right?)

Moe Norman
24th October 2016, 12:18 PM
I prefer low bounce (8* or under) for my bunker wedge

WBennett
24th October 2016, 12:25 PM
Go and play with Boonie - he will teach you the shot you need in 30 seconds and probably have the spare clubs you want sitting in the garage anyway...

Captain Nemo
24th October 2016, 01:02 PM
I reckon having the right bounces for your course/conditions is more important than worrying about distances and gapping.
With each wedge you should be able to hit 3 different shots so that's effectively 9 distances and options.
Just my 1 cent....

Horse
25th October 2016, 12:08 PM
Pretty sure the i3 UW was 52* and SW was 56*. Call AGS here in OZ and they will be able to tell you. They may be also be able to get you an i3 UW or SW if you can give them the serial number of your current irons.

Moe Norman
25th October 2016, 12:23 PM
why would having the serial number help?

Couldn't I just get some random ones?

Do you have a contact I can chase?

goughy
25th October 2016, 12:42 PM
OK, probably stupid idea here! You can stretch your 54 nearly to your pw. And you clearly don't like the 60 from the fairway. I'm with you on the 60. I stuck with them for years and years till I finally accepted I was crap with them. I benched mine completely, though wasn't really necessary.
Why not ditch the 54 and get a 56, and leave the 60 for those rare occasions you really need it. I got myself a ping w wedge with a wrx grind (years ago now of course). Can't remember the exact grind combo, but it took some off the trailing edge plus near the hosel so I can open it right up. Became my go to club from 90 in, and is bloody versatile.

Johnny Canuck
25th October 2016, 02:19 PM
I go 46, 50, 56 and 60.

Having the extra wedge is handy when you need to lower spin on certain shots. I can hit my 56 90m, but it's going to spin like crazy. The 50 allows a nice little bounce and stop.

I used to carry 52,56,60, but the 52 was about 10m short of the ideal spacing.

The more options with wedges, the better.

BayBum
25th October 2016, 02:25 PM
I used to carry 52,56,60, but the 52 was about 10m short of the ideal spacing. The more options with wedges, the better. This is me. Only, I'm a normal length hitter so my gaps are perfectish...

goughy
25th October 2016, 02:33 PM
I'm just crap. The more choice, the more confused!

Moe Norman
25th October 2016, 03:27 PM
I'm leaning towards 47* 52* 58*

But that would leave me with a spare spot in the bag, perhaps for a 5 wood or a 3 iron I suppose.

Horse
25th October 2016, 07:26 PM
Of course you can chase random ones but if you want a brand new wedge in the same specs as the rest of your set you will need a serial number. Yes I have a number of contacts in the golf game.

Moe Norman
25th October 2016, 10:23 PM
i'd like that, not sure i want to stump up the cost

Lucasto23
25th October 2016, 10:36 PM
I'm leaning towards 47* 52* 58*But that would leave me with a spare spot in the bag, perhaps for a 5 wood or a 3 iron I suppose. Do this and don't worry about having 14 clubs for now.

CB84
26th October 2016, 10:27 AM
I get that it's a personal preference but I've never seen the point of a 4 wedge setup. IMO if you have trouble knocking 10m off a wedge then you probably don't have the ability to consistently hit a number from a full wedge which is usually the argument from 4 wedge proponents (more full shots). I play 47/54/60, I might have 1 shot every 4 rounds where I wished I had a gap wedge but in those same 4 rounds I probably would have hit my 3 iron a dozen or more times.

Moe Norman
26th October 2016, 10:39 AM
I can consistently hit a number with a full shot no problems, I can even knock 10m off with a 4-9 iron in the hand if I need to.

but for some reason, I have issues with knockdown wedges, overhitting and underhitting.

Maybe I just have high expectations, but I feel like if I'm 70-100m out 7-10 times a round, I should be knocking a wedge inside 15 feet at least 50% of the time.

Golf is a fickle game. As a youngster, if I was inside 120m, I reckon I got it pretty close 80% of the time (lets say within 15-20 feet tops) but I rarely gave myself that opportunity.

Now at 35, I have the ball on a string off the tee and can't knock a wedge anywhere near the pin!

If I could combine my 20year old self with my current self, I'd be a bloody good player!

mrbluu
26th October 2016, 11:31 AM
I might have 1 shot every 4 rounds where I wished I had a gap wedge but in those same 4 rounds I probably would have hit my 3 iron a dozen or more times.
I drop the 3 iron to carry 46/50/54/58 setup.

I'm the opposite to u, I rather have the gap between the 5wood/2iron and the 4 irons is I would only use 3iron once or twice in 10 rounds, also at that range I'm happy to get it with in a 20m area so it's not a scoring club.

Also I only hit the 54 85m Max so I would have to take a lot of a PW to hit a 90m shot.

Moe Norman
26th October 2016, 11:38 AM
I carry a 20* Hybrid I can hit anywhere between 190 and max out at 220.

Obviously its not perfect, but I'd rather hit a high cut with this thing to get it 190-200 than try to hit a 3 iron these days.

Ocassionally a knockdown shot with the 20* hybrid goes way left, but at that distance you can accept the good with the bad.

JADO75
26th October 2016, 02:46 PM
I run with a 52, 56 & 58. I know it's a bit weird having the 56 & 58 but I get plenty of 80-90m shots so that's my 58 which has a bit more bounce & I love hitting full shots with. My 56 gets me 100m & my 52 gets me 110m. The shot that I also have quite often & shits me to tears is the 50-60m. I've quite often thought about carrying a 64 with a bit of bounce so I can take a big swing at that bugger instead of half arsing it.

blurry
26th October 2016, 03:37 PM
I play 50 54 58 degree sm4
50= 100
54= 90
58 = 75 but not exclusive , just whatever the shot calls for , hope that makes sense


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Courty
26th October 2016, 05:46 PM
I'm leaning towards 47* 52* 58*

But that would leave me with a spare spot in the bag, perhaps for a 5 wood or a 3 iron I suppose.

This is what I carry (plus a 3/ driving iron).

The 52 is a TM with ATV grind so it's versatile enough to play all kinds of different shots. The 58 is a TM as well but standard grind with 8 degrees of bounce.

Essentially I play the 52 for pretty much every shot from about 105m & in, and the 58 only comes out if I'm in the sand or short-sided. Any more wedges would just confuse the issue for me.

Jazz18
26th October 2016, 09:53 PM
I drop the 3 iron to carry 46/50/54/58 setup.

I'm the opposite to u, I rather have the gap between the 5wood/2iron and the 4 irons is I would only use 3iron once or twice in 10 rounds, also at that range I'm happy to get it with in a 20m area so it's not a scoring club.

Also I only hit the 54 85m Max so I would have to take a lot of a PW to hit a 90m shot.

I'm similar. Carry 4-PW and 50, 55 and 60. Will put in a 5 wood, 2 utility or 3 utility depending in the course or how I'm feeling between 4 iron and 3 wood. I used to just carry PW, 54 and 60 but my PW is too strong for that now so needed the gap wedge back in the bag.

markTHEblake
26th October 2016, 11:58 PM
but for some reason, I have issues with knockdown wedges, overhitting and underhitting. Do you use your wrists/late hit with short game? Get a lesson. Coach told me I have a huge late hit with my wedges, so I have to decelerate, which screws up distance control. So he completely changes my short game swing to using no wrist **** at all. Instead the power comes from internal hip rotation through the ball. Took me about 3 hits to get it, and the next day I shoot 3 under because I was knocking pins out all day with my short game. Get a lesson :-)

Johnny Canuck
27th October 2016, 12:19 AM
Do you use your wrists/late hit with short game? Get a lesson. Coach told me I have a huge late hit with my wedges, so I have to decelerate, which screws up distance control. So he completely changes my short game swing to using no wrist **** at all. Instead the power comes from internal hip rotation through the ball. Took me about 3 hits to get it, and the next day I shoot 3 under because I was knocking pins out all day with my short game. Get a lesson :-)

I've got a lesson booked 9 days from now. Wedges are going to be the focus of the majority of the session. Something is a little amiss at the moment and an expert set of eyes will figure it out long before I will.

Moe Norman
27th October 2016, 10:58 AM
I can't do lessons, the pros can't concentrate after they see my grip and all they want to work on is my grip - despite me telling them that its fine, and I've been a single figure marker for 20 years with that grip and I'm sticking with it!

markTHEblake
27th October 2016, 05:49 PM
My coach wouldnt change your grip Thommo. He doesnt teach 'positions' like most do.
I have never walked away from a lesson with him worse than I started. I think almost every coach seems to completely screw us up, and then they say "just practice that for a while"

Moe Norman
28th October 2016, 11:34 AM
played this morning, but took a Ping i3+ SW with me and removed the 54* Ping tour wedge.

I think I'm just a spaz and need shovels as I hit the i3+ fine.

I should have come to this realisation sooner, as I have 50, 52, 56 and 58* Ping tour wedges on the way so I can experiment with setups.

Now on the hunt for i3 Blade U wedge and SW - anyone want in on a 3balls group buy?

I'll have Ping Tour 50, 52, 56, 58 (and possibly the 60*) up for sale soon!

CB84
28th October 2016, 11:59 AM
Dibs on the 52 and 58?

Hmmm for someone who likes a 3 wedge setup I do seem to have a wedge hoing issue.

Moe Norman
28th October 2016, 12:31 PM
sure.

They haven't even arrived yet, but I'm going to let them go.

They are either Gorge SS or Ping Tour-S - I can't recall. I'm paying $140 landed for the pair, will let them go for $100.

Are you local?

CB84
28th October 2016, 12:43 PM
I'm in Brisbane, but happy to pay for postage. Shoot me a PM when they arrive if you still want to get rid of them.

Moe Norman
28th October 2016, 12:46 PM
I'm also in Brissie, so all good.

CB84
28th October 2016, 01:15 PM
Sweet, might even be interested in the others too, kinda hoping that they are the Gorge haha.

Moe Norman
28th October 2016, 01:26 PM
just checked for you mate

52 and 58 are Gorge SS

54 and 60 are Tour S and 14 and 8 bounce respectively.

50 is Gorge and 56 is Tour w

cheers

CB84
28th October 2016, 01:29 PM
Thanks Moe, definitely keen on the 52 and 58.

mrbluu
28th October 2016, 01:37 PM
Gorge SS are awesome!!!

CB84
28th October 2016, 03:05 PM
Look forward to giving them a crack!

Grumpy8
30th October 2016, 02:16 PM
Get a lesson is good advice ,I had problems with distances with wedges , would knock a wedge over the green trying to take 10 mts off it . Had a lesson pro suggested to put another wedge in the bag instead of trying to fiddle with distances . Plus you have to decide what you use more a 3 iron 3 wood etc or 52 deg wedge . 60 deg wedge .
In summer warragul plays fairly short if you drive well so I played 5 wedges no woods except driver , pw,gw,52*,sw (56*)60* 7*bounce drop my GA from 11.8 to 7.8

Moe Norman
2nd November 2016, 03:58 PM
Look forward to giving them a crack!


Gorges have arrived. I'm off to Melbourne tomorrow until Friday night, then away for the weekend.

You are welcome to grab them from Monday onwards. Can be picked up Graceville or Fortitude Valley

cheers