DG Superlites

[Jarro]

Anybody here using them ?

I'm seriously thinking of going to a lighter weight steel shaft in my irons.

Has anyone here recently switched to these shafts ? comments please :mrgreen:

[andylo]

Another option of light weight steel shaft are:

TT TX-90
TT TX Tour
Nippon NS Pro 850/950

Just to confuse you :p

[Jarro]

thanks ALo.

i like the performance of my DGS300's though so i kinda want to get something that plays similar without the weight.

[Virgal_Tracy]

Currently playing with the SL S300 in my X Tour clones. To pick them up they really do feel lighter than S300 but the swing weight feels very similar. Responsive and feel good. don't know if I'd go back to the regular weight shafts again, doesn't seem like much point.

[peter_rs]

I have looked at lite shafts.

Keza & I play DG SL shafts.

Don't look at TX shafts they break easys. Ask Scotty_G

Nippon NS Pro- higher ball flight
Rifle Flighted Lite- variable kick point solid feel.
DG SL- plays with a low ball flight

I perfer the DG.

Your clubs will swing weight heavier with SL. My MP32 went from D2 to D6. but I like head heavy clubs.

[Jarro]

Currently playing with the SL S300 in my X Tour clones. To pick them up they really do feel lighter than S300 but the swing weight feels very similar. Responsive and feel good. don't know if I'd go back to the regular weight shafts again, doesn't seem like much point.

VT, have you noticed any change in your shot shape/trajectory since changing over ?

[Virgal_Tracy]

Definetly lowered my flight which is what I was looking for. Was probably the main reason that i went with them. I have the TX Tour in my X 18 set which is also supposed to lower flight but the SL's feel better.

[ben]

the TX-Tour's don't fly low, the technology behind the TX series of shafts doesn't really allow for it. The SL flies lower (almost lower than a DG). The SL's also play firmer than the DG's. I used to use DG S3's and went to a DG SL R3.

They are a very good shaft Jazza, easier to hit than a DG becasue of the lower weight (and therefore lower MOI) but they are still a low handicappers shaft.

The other thing to remember is that being an ultralite they are more prone to having bends in them or "spines".

[goughy]

I'm loving lightweight steel shafts atm, and don't see myself using anything else ever again. Maybe the greatest revolution in iron shafts for the average player.

Didn't you have a nippon in a 3 wood years ago jarro. They left a bad taste in my mouth, and I bet they did the same for you. I'll stick clear of them for that reason.

[AndyP]

Didn't you have a nippon in a 3 wood years ago jarro. They left a bad taste in my mouth, and I bet they did the same for you. I'll stick clear of them for that reason.
That would be my current 3 wood, I think.

[Jarro]

so Ben, what you are saying is that the Superlites in stiff would have a lower ballflight than the normal S300's in the same flex ... not really what i'm after :-s

i might have to rethink this a little more .....

[990B Luva]

Jarro, i found the opposite when i hit Keza's irons, the SL's hit the ball higher for me but GREAT SHAFTS no matter what

[Jarro]

thanks Brett.

[peter_rs]

brett thats because the SMT head puts so much spin on the ball.

[ben]

Yes the milling on the SMT irons is way over the top. Way too much spin for my liking in the long irons especially.

[connico]

hmm and dont the smt have massive ofset??

regardless i hit some DG SL omg i almost came in my pants, those shafts a nice for light shafts, felt really crisp each shot, got to hit them while they where sitting a set of 735mbs...i like it... but the dude did say his bent a few..hmmm

[3oneday]

but the dude did say his bent a few..hmmmswing speed and strength does this Anthony.....

You'll be fine ;)


:lol:

[connico]

swing speed and strength does this Anthony.....

You'll be fine ;)


:lol:


got weak???...you saying im weak mate?

[Ona]

22g lighter? Just found something in the kitchen that weights about that, feels like nothing at all. Doesn't seem enough to change swingspeed, unless you allow the swingweight to go higher and that somehow helps.

Ben, do they work better than dg's for some people because they're lighter or because they result in different launch conditions given the exact same swing?

[3oneday]

got weak???...you saying im weak mate?you don't strike me as someone who will bend a shaft from taking divots, sorry if that offends :shock:

[connico]

lol i hardly take divots so thats ok lol :p

[Jarro]

well, if they bend easily i better not get them ..... i'm pretty strong ;)

[ben]

Ona,

Because they are lighter. Most people play with shafts that are too heavy.

Ben

[Jono]

swing speed and strength does this Anthony.....

You'll be fine ;)


:lol:

Might surprise you to know that Anthony was clocking 110 to 115 mph with his driver ... :shock:

Must have crap smash factor though ... His drives were going nowhere. :twisted: :lol:

[connico]

lol well actually it was the shaft and driver head that was doing that..

Can hit the 905T now...ask brad :)

[Jono]

lol well actually it was the shaft and driver head that was doing that..

Can hit the 905T now...ask brad :)

So your swing had nothing to do with it ... :roll: :lol:

[connico]

nope was driver all along... :p

[Ona]

I can see that it may allow for different swingweights or moi, maybe finding a better fit for the golfer that way, but looking only at total weight, can 20 something grams actually make a difference? A slice of bread proly weighs as much.

[ben]

Ona,

It makes a world of difference. The shaft walls are thinner so energy travels easier, you are looking at a 25% reduction in total weight of the shaft. you can visibly see people swinging easier with a lighter shaft than a heavier one.

[Jarro]

so do you think these shafts would suit a "hitter" more than a "swinger" then Ben ?

i'd like a shaft that would help me try and eliminate the "hitting" aspect out of my golf swing.

[Ona]

Thanks Ben. Still find it hard to believe, but can't argue with your experience. Might be one of things I've gotta go through myself in order to be a total believer :|

Do people swing faster (how much?) or retain the same speed but do it "easier"?

[Jarro]

i think the lighter shaft helps you achieve greater clubhead speed Ona

[Ona]

thats what they say. but... how much faster? how do you isolate total weight as the sole cause of any change in ss? Would 15g's lighter be enough to change my swing? 5g? How many MPH do you need to increase you swingspeed for it to be noticeable and worthwhile?

Ben, have you or anyone you know of built two clubs, one with the DG the other DGSL, identical in every way but the shaft weight (swingweight/moi, balance point etc) and measured for swingspeed? If not, what would you predict the outcome would be for most golfers?

I'd proly choose the DGSL over the DG's for a new set, can't hurt right and I guess they're bout the same price, but if the only advantage is weight, is there enough of a performance boost to warrant the $$ to reshaft away from DG's?

[ben]

Ona,

You may get 1-2 mph different and you may get 5-6. It depends more what it does to your tempo and release than anything else. Its more people don't have to fight the club, its easier to get through the ball.

[goughy]

It's just not so much hard work. Why make the game any harder than it already is.

Honestly, I think the stable lightweight iron shafts are the new revolution for us hackers. They're no longer spaghetti and actually have specific playing characteristics to suit different swings.

More power to us!

[Iain]

Jarro,
Why don't you get a couple of the S300 SL's off Ben, say a 4 and 9 iron?? Put them in your clubs and see how they play?? That's what I'm doing with X100's, that way I'm not having to pay for a full set of shafts and costs if they're not suitable.

Personally, I don't think I could go with SL's, I like the weight of the DG's and PX's.

Iain

[Jarro]

yeah i thought about that Iain, but i'm going to go and get fitted soon and i think i might wait and see what the clubmaker says.

It might be easier for me to just buy a set that already has the Superlites in them, if it's determined that i need new irons after all.

[Iain]

yeah i thought about that Iain, but i'm going to go and get fitted soon and i think i might wait and see what the clubmaker says.

It might be easier for me to just buy a set that already has the Superlites in them, if it's determined that i need new irons after all.

Why would you need new irons?? Whats wrong with the 201's?? Or do you just want an excuse to ho!! :razz: :razz:

[BrisVegas]

It might be easier for me to just buy a set that already has the Superlites in them, if it's determined that i need new irons after all.

OK, here's a wild stab in the dark..... Bridgey J33 combos??? :-D

[Jarro]

Why would you need new irons?? Whats wrong with the 201's?? Or do you just want an excuse to ho!! :razz: :razz:

well i don't really need new irons, i'm hoping that it'll work out that they're right for me, and that i just need them adjusted to suit.

I've never had a clubfit before so chances are pretty good they'll need some kind of tweaking.

saying that though, it does sound like a great excuse to Ho ;)

[Jarro]

OK, here's a wild stab in the dark..... Bridgey J33 combos??? :-D

i actually quite like the look of the Titty 704 CB's :mrgreen:

[BrisVegas]

i actually quite like the look of the Titty 704 CB's :mrgreen:

I hear ya. They're a nice middle-of-the-road iron. Hopefully I'll get some soon so you can take a swing with em! Mind you, you'll need to stand on a couple of bricks to get the lie angle right.... :smt002

[Jarro]

i actually came within a whisker of getting a set when i was looking for new irons a while ago. Tried them out against all the demos that Nudgee pro shop had to offer, and they felt the best.

Then along came perci with his I-201's :roll: :)

[BrisVegas]

i actually came within a whisker of getting a set when i was looking for new irons a while ago. Tried them out against all the demos that Nudgee pro shop had to offer, and they felt the best.

Well, they'd look nice sitting next to your Nomad Vokeys...

I'm keen to try the 735.CM irons as well. A demo set of those would be about the only reason I could think of to get me back to Pacific!!

[Jarro]

there's a set of demo 704's in the bin at Nudgee too Vegas ;)

[AndyP]

Who are you seeing for your fitting?

[Jarro]

Who are you seeing for your fitting?

i'll probably go down to see Chris McCourt at Palm Meadows.

wanna come along ;)

[connico]

There is not reason not to hoe?? and your not a hoe if you dont sell your gear!! :p

[shazza_rs]

if you are going for finding a set with SL's in them already you will be hard pressed finding some. The SL's are a special order as almost every set of clubs has the normal DG's in them.

Just a thought

[BrisVegas]

if you are going for finding a set with SL's in them already you will be hard pressed finding some. The SL's are a special order as almost every set of clubs has the normal DG's in them.

Just a thought

Yeah mine would need to be a special order anyway, given the length I need. Thanks though.