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Pinglauncher
9th May 2006, 11:28 AM
My wedge setup for the last 6 months or so had been 52 and 58*RAC TP's. Both of these wedges have 8* of bounce and were ideal for the course conditions at Carnarvon.

A lot of our bunkers have been re sanded and as we move into the colder months our fairways get a little softer. The swing changes I have been going through also means I am not coming into the ball as flat as before so some additional bounce may be called for.

The last few rounds I have put Macca's old TOUR Y Cutter ( 56-12) into play. This has proved ideal.

As my PW is 46* I have been considering a 50, 54, 58 or 50, 55, 60 setup or something similar.

I am hesitant to bend the 52 back to 50 as this would further reduce the bounce.

WHAT TO DO ????????????????????????????????????

connico
9th May 2006, 11:45 AM
leave the 52-8, add the 56-12 and add a 60-8

that should give you enough to play with, with a strong bouncy sand wedge and a low bounce 60 for the soft ground you should be fine

Jarro
9th May 2006, 11:55 AM
i find i can use my 5208 and 5808 on pretty much any course.

Must be my crappy swing :roll:

Grunt
9th May 2006, 12:07 PM
I have a 52-08, 56-10 & 60-07, I got the relatively low bounce clubs due my home course conditions being so hard. If I go to another course with softer conditions I think I might have to change back to my other wedge set.

3oneday
9th May 2006, 12:28 PM
Will it ever get softer in winter ???

51/?? and 57/6 for me.

Pete

Grunt
9th May 2006, 12:38 PM
I just looked up the spec of my Adams A1 Pro Irons and was surprised to see the PW loft at 45*. THey just keep making clubs less lofted all the time.

dc68
9th May 2006, 01:12 PM
It's only so people can say "I hit my PW 130m!!!!!!" etc.:neutral:

Pinglauncher
9th May 2006, 01:38 PM
i find i can use my 5208 and 5808 on pretty much any course.

Must be my crappy swing :roll:

Jarro, my problem is a combination of "My Crappy Swing" and ho'ing mentality to spend money.

I actually think the lofts for me are pretty good but maybe a little more bounce.

The X Tours may be an alternative for me to try. A couple of degrees more bounce through their range.

jimandr
9th May 2006, 10:31 PM
Ping,

My initial reaction upon reading this (particularly after watching you decelerate and hit some chips a yard, and seeing Grunt do the same thing last Saturday) is that you are thinking too much about this.

Some experimentation may be necessary to find the best option to get out of the bunkers, but most of the time you shouldn't need a 60 around Carnarvon unless you are lobbing over a bunker. It's a course where you can play a lot of chips to just hit the edge of the green and then run it up to the hole.

If you visit Camden Valley, or Macarthur Grange, you might as well find a second putter, suitable for playing texas wedge style putts from off the green. Our fairways and green approaches are rock hard due to lack of rain, with no real relief in sight.

I'm such an anti-ho I don't even know what the bounce is on my wedges. I just use them (48, 56 and 60, which I hardly ever use) and blame myself if I hit a bad one.

Grunt
9th May 2006, 10:55 PM
Jim
I know what you are saying about the lack of need for a pitching game at both mine and yourselves home courses. I guess my play on the weekend was alot of the time the wrong shot for the situation. Maybe I should have used the hybrid more often like I did the day we played NSW. I think tomorrow @penrith will be much the same a more pitch & run type of game around the greens.

3oneday
9th May 2006, 11:12 PM
Jim
I know what you are saying about the lack of need for a pitching game at both mine and yourselves home courses. I guess my play on the weekend was alot of the time the wrong shot for the situation. Maybe I should have used the hybrid more often like I did the day we played NSW. I think tomorrow @penrith will be much the same a more pitch & run type of game around the greens.Penrith have plenty of water.... course is in pretty good nick, or was a couple of months ago.

Pete

Moe Norman
10th May 2006, 12:19 AM
I play 54/10 and 60/6 Y Cutters.

This is the first time I've carried a lob wedge and I'm finding it quite useful, but would prefer a bit more bounce as the 54 isn't enough loft for some trap shots and the 6 isn't enough bounce!

BrisVegas
10th May 2006, 03:05 PM
Why not try 48-54-60.

Make the 54 a high bounce club for soft sand and fluffy lies.

Pinglauncher
10th May 2006, 03:35 PM
Why not try 48-54-60.

Make the 54 a high bounce club for soft sand and fluffy lies.

My PW is 46* which is part of the problem. Experimentation in the past has me at a comfortable limit of 58* at the top end. I either stay with a 52 - 58 combo or 50, 54, 58.

I would just like a little more bounce than what I am currently working with.

BrisVegas
10th May 2006, 07:50 PM
My PW is 46* which is part of the problem. Experimentation in the past has me at a comfortable limit of 58* at the top end. I either stay with a 52 - 58 combo or 50, 54, 58.

I would just like a little more bounce than what I am currently working with.

Your PW is really a 9 iron. I was suggesting that you pick up a specialist wedge at 48 degrees and ditch your current PW.

Webster
10th May 2006, 07:54 PM
Go 54 /60.

goughy
11th May 2006, 06:54 AM
wot he said!

PRC
11th May 2006, 06:03 PM
I think you're worrying about nothing. If you're happy with the 46, 52 and 58 then stick with it and just get a 58 with more bounce.

Jono
12th May 2006, 08:40 AM
Ping, I'd go 50, 55, 60. Get 55 degree with say 10 degrees of bounce so you can use it in fluffy sand. 60 should be low bounce so you can open it up for touch shots and also hit off hardpan.

I agree with Brisvegas. 46 degree PW is really a nine iron. The 50 degree wedge can function as the real PW.

McMw
12th May 2006, 02:03 PM
PL - if ur PW is 46º, get a 50º!!!
when I got hold of my AEPs, I was having so much trouble with the distances btw my PW and my regular 52 or 53 wedges...
researched and found out the PW was 46º, got a 50º and won't play without a 50º in the bag...plus it's a great club to play the 3/4 and 1/2 shots...

and if u have space for 2 more wedges, then 54/58 combo will be ideal...
or just get a 58 and put in another utility/fairway in the bag...

Pinglauncher
13th May 2006, 09:58 AM
OK I have decided to go with 50,54 and 58.

First step is to get a Cally X Tour 50*.

A question on the 54*. I can either weaken my 52* RAC TP which would give me 54/10 or I can strengthen the Y Cutter from 56 which would also give me 54/10.

Is it better to weaken or strengthen wedges.

McMw
13th May 2006, 10:24 AM
depends on what bounce u want on the 54º

Jarro
13th May 2006, 10:35 AM
i wouldn't imagine strengthening or weakening would be any different.

All depends which wedge you're willing to experiment with.

If it was me, i'd just look for a new wedge that had the characteristics you're after.

Jono
13th May 2006, 11:10 AM
I personally prefer weakening rather than strengthening. If you strengthen the loft of a wedge by more than say a degree, you get this kind of an "offset look". 2 degrees should be OK though ... Make sure you get the person doing the bending to bend is as low down the hosel as possible. Good luck.

BrisVegas
12th April 2007, 12:14 PM
Great to see a "short-knocker" like Zach Johnson win the masters with smart wedge play... I think it's ironic that Mickelson dropped his SW altogether to make room for an extra driver...

"Johnson made 11 birdies out of 16 chances on Augusta National’s par-fives without going for any of them in two. He won the Masters with his wedges, pitching close for birdie at the par-five second, chipping in for birdie at the par-five eighth and pitching close for birdie on the par-five 13th."

http://www.nbcsports.com/golf/1341190/detail.html

markTHEblake
12th April 2007, 11:34 PM
Thats it, i am off to buy a tour wedge tomorrow.

Moe Norman
12th April 2007, 11:56 PM
I think it's ironic that Mickelson dropped his SW altogether to make room for an extra driver... sort of, but it's kind of got a 50% strike rate at the masters so I'd be happy with that :)

BrisVegas
13th April 2007, 07:46 AM
Thats it, i am off to buy a tour wedge tomorrow.

why? Zach Johnson's wedges are retail. I think you missed the point.

3oneday
13th April 2007, 07:50 AM
why? Zach Johnson's wedges are retail. I think you missed the point.probably trying to make one.

He really proved that he had a game plan and he stuck to it, as did Phil I suppose.

His makes more sense to me though, surely these blokes wear out wedges on the range, not drivers ????

markTHEblake
13th April 2007, 10:04 AM
why? Zach Johnson's wedges are retail. I think you missed the point.

If the point was that wedges are more important than other clubs then I got it.