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PRC
8th May 2006, 02:53 PM
A couple of years ago everyone wanted to see Green ko Mundine and now it doesn't seem like anyone cares.

I'm picking Mudine, he's got decent power and good hand speed - plus I reckon he's looked better than Green recently and overall has been in with better competition. Although that Lester Ellis fight was a disgrace. If he sticks the jab in Green's face all night and moves well he can win it. Wouldn't shock me if Green stopped him though.

3oneday
8th May 2006, 02:56 PM
First sentence, Mundine ran scared for too long, the fight has lost its impact now.

Pete

Eag's
8th May 2006, 03:00 PM
I hope Green knocks Mundine into next week :evil:
He will be unbearable if he manages to win.

connico
8th May 2006, 03:07 PM
tip mundine to win after watching of a few of this bouts again..

terryand
8th May 2006, 03:57 PM
I would like to see nothing more than Green beat the snot out of Mundine.But I don't think it will happen.

Like someone said earlier mundine has "run scared" long enough (to give himself enough time) to turn himself into a fighter that is well enough equipped to beat Green now.

I hope I'm wrong :-|

Terry.

Moe Norman
8th May 2006, 06:38 PM
Mundine is twice the boxer Green is. Having said that, I hope Green wins but I dislike both of them actually and Green will need to land a lucky punch to have a chance.

Fishman Dan
8th May 2006, 07:02 PM
For the sake of mankind, please let Green win.

As Pete said, it's been trash talked for so long, who really cares anymore?

3oneday
8th May 2006, 09:27 PM
Green will need to land a lucky punch to have a chance.Green isn't subtle enough to hit Mundine, you wouldn't wanna be paying good money to watch Mundine dance for however many rounds it is.

Pete

Jarro
8th May 2006, 11:52 PM
Mundine just better hope the Machine doesn't land a couple on him early, otherwise it'll be all over quickly.

Mundine can dance better than anyone, but Green will kill Mundine if he's allowed to get a few good shots on him.

Moe Norman
9th May 2006, 06:43 AM
they both have 'glass jaws' Jarro - it's just that Mondine is better at hitting them.

Jarro
9th May 2006, 07:16 AM
I think Green's got more firepower Moe.

Should be a good fight, at least it's finally gonna happen :roll:

CobraSS
9th May 2006, 04:10 PM
I'm out of the loop here. Was the fight postponed ? Is this the amended date ?

the fight was postponed because Green injured his back in training, I think.

PRC
10th May 2006, 07:58 PM
I caught a brief segment on the news tonight of the pre-fight press conference. Green just sat there like an idiot, refused to answer any questions and just made a simple "I'm in great shape" style statement. At least Mundine tries to sell tickets.
Hey Danny, here's one from left field - stop being a wanker. Boxing in Aus is practically dead, Green could have taken part in a fake brawl like they do at so many US big fights. Would have made news, might have gotten people a little interested in the fight.
To sum up, Mundine looked like a clown and Green an arrogant wanker.

PRC
11th May 2006, 05:22 PM
Johnny Lewis on the quality of the Mundine-Green fight

"I don't want to sound like an old cynic," he said.
"Danny and Choc are talented, but Jeff Harding and Tony Mundine would have stopped both of them."

Ouch :-?

Moe Norman
11th May 2006, 05:42 PM
Danny Green is nearly as big a wanker as Mundine - at least Mundine can box though.

Moe Norman
16th May 2006, 06:52 PM
I think Green's got more firepower Moe. no way mate, he's a grinder. Mundine has a bigger punch and is a better, quicker boxe.

Ducky
16th May 2006, 06:55 PM
It god wants me to have a nice birthday, he will ensure Mundine gets absolutely smashed. However, I have a feeling that Mundine will win.

Jarro
16th May 2006, 06:57 PM
no way mate, he's a grinder. Mundine has a bigger punch and is a better, quicker boxe.

quicker maybe, better boxer ... i don't think so.

The Man is fast, The Machine is tougher and fitter.

Moe Norman
16th May 2006, 07:49 PM
it seems even Kostya agrees with me.

McCoy
16th May 2006, 08:37 PM
If Mundine tries to trade with Green he'll lose. I'm backing Green for a late round stoppage.

Fishman Dan
16th May 2006, 08:49 PM
Mundine hasn't stopped anyone half decent. If Green gets to him, it could be all over within 5 or 6.

I'm set to go - Tiger Leagues for me. Should be full, but thousands of telly's watch it on.

Courty
17th May 2006, 07:50 AM
They'll need to use a larger boxing ring for this one. No way two egos that big will fit in the same ring.
Heard some expert on the radio this morning. He said that Green needs to knock Mundine out in the first 3-4 rounds, otherwise Mundine will dance around & win on points if it goes longer. Apparently Green might suffer fatigue if it goes longer than 4 rounds because of the amount of weight he had to lose for this fight.

Fishman Dan
17th May 2006, 08:50 AM
Seems to me that Green packs more power - if he lands a couple Mundine will be in trouble. Not sure if Mundine has ever been properly hit before - except that occasion when he took a dive and wound up doing the dirty starfish on the canvas.

Also interesting to see how many turn up for the fight. Didn't take my fancy, being stuck in a crowd with a bunch of 'roided up hoodlums wearing Everlast tracksuits.

Moe Norman
17th May 2006, 08:54 AM
Mundine is more powerful and is faster - where does this myth about Green's power come from?

Green has never even knocked a bloke out, any KO on his record has been a count.

BrisWesty
17th May 2006, 10:00 AM
Why would anyone pay $49.95 for pay and play in a sport(?) like boxing, where it can be over in 30 seconds.

connico
17th May 2006, 10:21 AM
Mundine will win, got money on it now, after hearing all the arguments and watching his last fight on sunday i would agree that mundine is in better condition to win this fight. Well see today!

Fishman Dan
17th May 2006, 10:55 AM
Westy - there's an undercard with a cast of thousands? Regardless, if you gets mates over, every chips in $5, and/or brings beer, meat, fire up the bbq, send the missus to her friends... it makes it cheaper night than going out to the pub to watch it.

I'm Fox-less however, we're heading up to the Leagues club for a cheap meal, a punt, and to watch the fight. No interest in boxing (and hence the undercard events).

Courty
17th May 2006, 11:01 AM
I hear John Hopoate is fighting in his professional bout as an undercard tonight (true story).
It may be his first bout, but it won't be the first time he's punched someone in the ring. :mrgreen:

Eag's
17th May 2006, 11:28 AM
Green will have to much firepower for Mundine, he has proven he can take a hit.
Mundine can't dance around all night, he will have to get in and brawl to have a hope.

Green will explode over the first 4 rounds throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Mundine.
It may not be a TKO but he will easily
win on points :smt062 :twisted:

Fishman Dan
17th May 2006, 11:51 AM
I hear John Hopoate is fighting in his professional bout as an undercard tonight (true story).
It may be his first bout, but it won't be the first time he's punched someone in the ring. :mrgreen:

:lol: :lol:

Yep, he's fighting some primary school kid from godknowswhere.

Moe Norman
17th May 2006, 01:52 PM
Green will have to much firepower for Mundine, he has proven he can take a hit.
Mundine can't dance around all night, he will have to get in and brawl to have a hope.

Green will explode over the first 4 rounds throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Mundine.
It may not be a TKO but he will easily
win on points Mate, Green hasn't EVER KO'd anyone, not anyone EVER, so why do people think he has firepower??

Mundine can dance all night and will, if the fight goes the distance Mundine will win on points by a country mile. The only chance Green has is by KO, and he has no firepower to knock Mundine out cold so will need to get him with a count.

If Green explodes in the first 4 rounds and doesn't knock him out, it's as good as over. Thats why I have $75 on Mundine to KO him inside 8 rounds. Remember the most famous fight where the bloke tried to knock a better boxer out early?

Eag's
17th May 2006, 02:45 PM
Moe just out of curiosity, have you ever watched any of Greens fights??
He may not of KO'd anyone but he will take hits all day and still be standing
at the end.

Mundine may have a few knock outs, but against **** poor fighters.
I can't understand why you think this will be a Mundine walkover??

Anyway each to thier own, it's your money.

Moe Norman
17th May 2006, 03:17 PM
I've watched plenty of Green fights - he can take a hit no doubt about it, but he can't put one on a good boxer. If he goes hard early he needs to knock him out, thats just basic boxing rules. If you put it on the line early and don't knock him out you have to expect to take some punishment, especially from a superfit boxer with good speed and a very solid sneaky right hand.

People call Mundine's opponents **** poor, which they were early on when he only just started boxing. He hasn't been fighting mickey mouse opponents for years.

Ricky Thornberry is a better fighter than Green and Mundine have him a boxing lesson.

Jarro
17th May 2006, 03:38 PM
i'm backing Mundine to bite a chunk out of Greens ear.

Iain
17th May 2006, 06:44 PM
Is it over yet??? :roll:

Grunt
17th May 2006, 06:56 PM
I heard the fight won't get on the ring until around 10pm. Fights started @ 5pm with 11 fights on the undercard.

connico
17th May 2006, 08:26 PM
10pm i can still get there!!

McCoy
17th May 2006, 08:59 PM
Everyone seems to be tipping Mundine, no matter what the result should be a hell of a hot topic tomorrow. Guy at work raised a good point that for Green at 33yo, could be a career ender if he doesn't win tonight. I never thought of that and Green just might be the hungrier fighter.

Moe Norman
17th May 2006, 11:04 PM
Green got completely outclassed and demolished as expected. A slippery mat in the 11th round saved him from knockout.

Green was never even in it.

Eag's
17th May 2006, 11:23 PM
The return bout should be great, just hope it will be soon or Mundaine
could be unbearable :rolleyes:

Moe Norman
17th May 2006, 11:51 PM
it will be good practice for him to have another training session against Green before fighting Kessler.

Ducky
18th May 2006, 12:02 AM
I didn't know if Mundine was there to box or have a dance-off. I don't think he was the aggressor at any stage, he simply counter-punched constantly. Which, unfortunately enough, seemed to work well.

3oneday
18th May 2006, 06:18 AM
I didn't know if Mundine was there to box or have a dance-off. I don't think he was the aggressor at any stage, he simply counter-punched constantly. Which, unfortunately enough, seemed to work well.
that's how he fights, or dances or whatever. It's never gunna be pretty !!

Moe Norman
18th May 2006, 07:03 AM
how often do you watch boxing?

Mundine dominatd him in every facet. Why attack if he going to walk into your jab all night? Next thing you'll say Ali was no good because he danced around Foreman and Liston ?!

3oneday
18th May 2006, 07:24 AM
how often do you watch boxing?

Mundine dominatd him in every facet. Why attack if he going to walk into your jab all night? Next thing you'll say Ali was no good because he danced around Foreman and Liston ?!never anymore, but then you are also probably too young to remember Jeff Fenechs first world title fight I guess :roll:

Don't tell me, Jack told you allllll about it, right ??? ;)

Fishman Dan
18th May 2006, 08:00 AM
What a boring spectacle. Booooooooooooooooooooooooring. More punches landed in a good Aust vs NZ netball game.

Green lacked the game plan, Mundine got lucky with the occasional uppercut to score the points.

Can't wait for the rematch :roll:

Don't know what fight you watched Moe, but there was no 'dominating' going on. This was a true display of Aussie boxing - far below world class. Kessler will be licking his lips.

BrisVegas
18th May 2006, 08:44 AM
never anymore, but then you are also probably too young to remember Jeff Fenechs first world title fight I guess :roll:

Don't tell me, Jack told you allllll about it, right ??? ;)

:-D :-D :-D

AndyP
18th May 2006, 08:48 AM
So it wasn't as good as a Rocky Balboa fight?

connico
18th May 2006, 08:56 AM
no andy it wasnt, but moe is right, while mundine danced around his opponent he scored some well placed punches. He drew first blood on green on the 4th, after consistently jabbing his way out of trouble in the 1st three rounds. After 4th everything started down hill for green, i think moe predicted that too somewhere before all these posts.

Regardless i won some dosh and im happy :p

Moe Norman
18th May 2006, 10:18 AM
never anymore, but then you are also probably too young to remember Jeff Fenechs first world title fight I guess :roll:
I don't recall seeing it live, but I've seen it - whats your point? Different boxers with different styles.


Don't know what fight you watched Moe, but there was no 'dominating' going on. This was a true display of Aussie boxing - far below world class. Kessler will be licking his lips. Kessler beat Mundine on points and it was nowhere near the comprehensive victory we saw last night, He'll be confident but he''ll be fighting better boxer than last time he fought Mundine and it will be a genuine even money bet.


i think moe predicted that too somewhere before all these posts.
I predicted Mundine would dominate from the 4th round, he dominated from the 2nd so I was wrong. I also backed him to finish it inside 8 rounds and it didn't, wrong again. That said, I was never in doubt as to who would win it.

Fishman Dan
18th May 2006, 10:26 AM
Not even the Korean judge could cheat to manufacture an even result- he judged it 114-112.

3oneday
18th May 2006, 11:04 AM
I don't recall seeing it livegot to the pub a lot when you were 4 years old did you ???

:lol:

Moe Norman
18th May 2006, 11:52 AM
not that I'm aware of, hence probably why I don't recall seeing it.

I wasn't even born for nearly all of Ali's professional bouts, but I've seen all of them.

Speirsy11
18th May 2006, 11:54 AM
You should hear the guys out here in WA talking about this fight :)

"He got lucky"

"Green was sick"

"Mundine had the judges on his side"

Sounds like they all watched a different fight to everyone else in the country......

terryand
18th May 2006, 05:42 PM
Mike, wait to see how they carry on if they win the flag this year, or lose it again.

Apparently it is something else.

Terry.

Webster
18th May 2006, 06:56 PM
I remember that Fenech fight well boys - he punched the crap out of Smartarsse Payackaruin.

Grunt
18th May 2006, 07:30 PM
I remember that Fenech fight well boys - he punched the crap out of Smartarsse Payackaruin.

Was his 1st fight with him the one at the Hordern Pavillion or was that the rematch?

Ducky
18th May 2006, 09:06 PM
Mundine dominatd him in every facet. Why attack if he going to walk into your jab all night? Next thing you'll say Ali was no good because he danced around Foreman and Liston ?!
I speak from a spectator's point of view, not a self-proclaimed boxing technique specialist. As previously mentioned, his counter-attack approach worked very well, but if Green wasn't so aggressive I doubt there would have been 10 punches thrown all night.

Moe Norman
18th May 2006, 09:17 PM
I speak from a spectator's point of view, not a self-proclaimed boxing technique specialist. As previously mentioned, his counter-attack approach worked very well, but if Green wasn't so aggressive I doubt there would have been 10 punches thrown all night. I see your point, but it's not quite accurate. If Mundine needs to he's quite capable of attacking. Watching two dancer's fight is actually quite entertaining, because you see their full array of skills.

goughy
19th May 2006, 05:07 AM
So what you guys are saying is that you wanted to see a boxing match but ended up seeing an episode of dancing with the stars???:)

Think yourselves lucky darly sommers wasn't the ref. He would have opened the match with a drum solo......

Fishman Dan
19th May 2006, 08:25 AM
Was his 1st fight with him the one at the Hordern Pavillion or was that the rematch?

I think you're getting confused with the rematch with Azumah Nelson at Princes Park (Carlton's home ground) - the rematch of a fight that Fenech pretty clearly won, but wait, who was promoting this fight?

Don King.

PRC
19th May 2006, 05:17 PM
No he's not right but he's close, Fenech beat Satoshi Shingaki twice. The first time was Fenech's first title and in only his 7th professional bout.
I agree with the calls for Danny Green to give it away. He's given his best and was outclassed. I don't think Mundine beats Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler, but I'd give him a chance vs Jeff Lacy.

Fishman Dan
19th May 2006, 05:40 PM
Shame for him to do it, but i agree. I get the impression he was fighting to a plan that didn't work the other night, but persisted through 12 rounds. No wonder he's reluctant to give it away, but if we had this fight 5 years ago, a rematch wasn't a problem.

Moe Norman
19th May 2006, 07:10 PM
PRC: do you think Joe will actually fight again at all?

PRC
19th May 2006, 08:45 PM
Calzaghe will fight if the money is there. He might be interested in Antonio Tarver, if Tarver gets by Hopkins. Tarver is ripe for the picking and he owns 2 wins vs RJJ. Calzaghe has struggled with weight for years, Tarver needs money so I can see it happening. But it would be a dreadful fight, as bad as Hopkins-Tarver will be.

Dan, I agree that Green should have fought Mundine earlier. The Green that stopped Eric Lucas would have beaten Mundine, unfortunately that was Green's last great fight and it was almost 3 years ago.

terryand
19th May 2006, 09:03 PM
I thought his first fight against Bayer was pretty good,If he had of got the world title then, Mundine might have come after green earlier than this.

Because he always said to get out of fighting him earlier, "he has nothing I want".

Terry.

Moe Norman
19th May 2006, 10:21 PM
he definately played it smart. Green is a shade of the 2003/2003 model and Mundine is improving every fight.

Mundine was right though, why fight a guy at the top of is game when still learning if he has nothing to offer you other than a likely beating?

PRC
11th June 2006, 06:57 PM
Bernard Hopkins convincingly beat Tarver today, it's an amazing feat given that he's 42, "lost" his last 2 fights and was going up 2 weight divisions. Thought I'd better put this in because I said he was done and the fight would be dull.