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Hatchman
17th November 2015, 11:21 AM
Post any comments/feed back about the 2015 Champs.
We are keen to know what you liked or didn't like so we can think about what needs to be done for 2016.
Tell us about how good or bad this years courses were and any experiences with welcoming or un-welcoming staff at any of the Clubs we played at. We already know of a few little issues and need to know if there were any others.


I'll kick the thread off and say Schnit House was House of much disapoint. We were crammed in like sardines, could not hear each other speak, two of the crew could not be fit in and the meal was small and average at best.
I was looking forward to it and it was more disappointing than my golf game ☹.

3Puttpete
17th November 2015, 11:29 AM
More me, less Lagerlover.

thecollective
17th November 2015, 11:33 AM
What I liked:
-the team aspect of the Friday game + I enjoyed the banter as it was fun & friendly
-Wazas amazing trophy making; total legend for donating his time and materials
-the mixture of courses played
-the participation and enthusiasm from interstate visitors
-RA; everything about this course is sheer class; from its members to its staff, the course and the brilliant quality of food

What I disliked:
- the choice of places to eat although to be honest that is always going to be a lottery to some extent
- the stableford match play format; to me match play should be the real thing
- a few members at Gawler spoiling the experience for a select few of us
- the travel; North / South / North was a logistical nightmare

All in all it was a fantastic champs event and topped last year by a country mile. Great to see everyone chipping in prizes and I hope that trend continues next year.

TC

coalesce
17th November 2015, 12:20 PM
Positives:

The people - meeting more OzGolfers is always good and this was no exception. Seeing the ones we knew from last year again was also good (even 3pp).

The Kitchener Cup - the matchplay aspect of this adds something to what would otherwise just have been a warm-up round with nothing on it. It also helps people get to know each other as you will be in a group with 2 locals and 2 interstaters

2 day champs - adds to the banter and the achievement

The Tier 1s - RA was fantastic again and is my favourite course in SA, but Glenelg isn't far behind. As others have said, it is nice to play courses requiring some thought rather than just bashing the driver all day long. That's not to say I don't enjoy Kooyonga too, but it does seemed designed to play each hole a particular way

The other courses - Tanunda, Victor and Gawler were in good condition. We are blessed in SA that we could equally have chosen a different set of 3 courses and it would likely have been much the same.

Negatives:

The clash with the GSM/WA Champs - even them being in the same month is going to deter visitors from interstate to one or other of them, and the visitors are what makes the event extra special because they are the ones we only get to play with once a year (unless we ourselves travel interstate). Having said that, November does seem to be the best month to play here in terms of course conditions - if we go later in the year it will be dryer and hotter, and also starts to clash with Christmas/New Year and then Vic Champs. If we go earlier, the courses won't be in as good a condition which will be noticeable on the non-Tier 1s

The food arrangements - I think we should be more proactive and actually research/arrange this in advance next year. Potentially we could ask the club we choose for the Saturday to do something special for us - it benefits them, plus we'd know what we'd get.

For me personally, the way I played. Oh well, there's always next year.

Questions for interstate visitors:

Are you happy with the quality of the non Tier 1s you played?
Everyone arranged their own accommodation both this year and last year - are you happy with this approach? Should we all sleep in cars in the same car park as Ferrins next year?

Ferrins
17th November 2015, 06:22 PM
Positives.
Weather
Golf courses were superb
SA OZgolfers were very friendly and eager to help
The locals that I met out and about accross the state were interesting and informative.
The beaches at first light.
Botanic Garden.
Yiros from charcoal chickens on Grange road.
Clarendon township
The shower at room 18 The Links hotel
The 4,guys who sold me stuff
The little cafe at Grange Beach.
Grange beach pier watching the dolphin swimmng under it.
The birds of the open forrest
Negatives
Google maps getting me lost.
Servo coffee
Playing stableford from the foward tees
The food at Links and schnitzhouse.

jimandr
17th November 2015, 07:35 PM
I have made comments in other threads about what I liked. Very short version: just about everything.
To address some of Coalesce's questions, the most important thing to remember is that they are the SA Champs, and you need to keep the locals in mind at all times.
Having said that, take note of today's weather and tomorrow's forecast. 36 today and 38 tomorrow. I can't play 2 rounds in that heat. So any changes in date should be forward not back.
I would've liked more prizes though. Then I may have got one. I think everyone else who played 4 days got something except me.

Grunt
17th November 2015, 07:45 PM
What I liked
OzGolf champs friendliness, as always all good
Contrast of courses, all great
Fridays concept was cool

What I didn't like
My crap golf
Schitzhouse
West End Beer

Highlights
The look on Coalesce when I holed the bunker shot for birdie on the 3rd at Victor Harbour.
Longest drive at RA, the only drive i hit that did not quack off the clubface.

Everything else was great, idea for next year's Sat night entertainment/dinner, Bare foot bowls with a BBQ at a bowling club would be really cool.

nadg63
17th November 2015, 07:58 PM
Here are some quick thoughts on what has been posted so far:


I'll kick the thread off and say Schnit House was House of much disapoint. We were crammed in like sardines, could not hear each other speak, two of the crew could not be fit in and the meal was small and average at best.
I was looking forward to it and it was more disappointing than my golf game ☹.

Though I was not in attendance, that is a bit of an embarrassment, apologies to those it concerns - it will be left off the venue list next year!


More me, less Lagerlover.

So you're eating more, Lager on a diet!? ;)


What I disliked:
- the choice of places to eat although to be honest that is always going to be a lottery to some extent
- the stableford match play format; to me match play should be the real thing
- a few members at Gawler spoiling the experience for a select few of us
- the travel; North / South / North was a logistical nightmare

TC

- Places to eat obviously needs some attention!
- Stableford Matchplay - I thought the Stableford scores were secondary for the Ironman comp, and that the matchplay WAS to be the real thing!? (H/Cs were collected just to match up the pairings as fairly/evenly as possible).
- Gawler - yes there were a couple of arrogant prick members there BUT we have been there done that now, so not on the course list for next year.
- North/South/North - that kind of happened by accident, Tanunda and Gawler were already in when the decision to join 3PP and LL at Victor Harbor was made, won't happen next year! For the Friday round we would be looking at somewhere not so far away to save the rushing about/drive of those people that fly in that morning; I know it's my home course but somewhere like The Vines might be a goer, only 40-45mins from the airport PLUS we could all have dinner there afterwards in the clubhouse!?


Negatives:

The clash with the GSM/WA Champs - even them being in the same month is going to deter visitors from interstate to one or other of them, and the visitors are what makes the event extra special because they are the ones we only get to play with once a year (unless we ourselves travel interstate). Having said that, November does seem to be the best month to play here in terms of course conditions - if we go later in the year it will be dryer and hotter, and also starts to clash with Christmas/New Year and then Vic Champs. If we go earlier, the courses won't be in as good a condition which will be noticeable on the non-Tier 1s

The food arrangements - I think we should be more proactive and actually research/arrange this in advance next year. Potentially we could ask the club we choose for the Saturday to do something special for us - it benefits them, plus we'd know what we'd get.

For me personally, the way I played. Oh well, there's always next year.

- The clash is unfortunate BUT for golf here in SA early November is the best time to have our Champs, weather, course condition etc are all favourable. Later it is highly likely to be uncomfortably hot, earlier it has the potential to be very wet and the courses boggy! I am of the opinion it stays where it is on the calendar!
- Eating out/food: as per above, certainly needs looking at.
- Cannot do much about how you played I'm afraid.



I would've liked more prizes though. Then I may have got one. I think everyone else who played 4 days got something except me.

All say 'Ahhhh' for Jim! I'm sure we could have found you something Jim! (give him a hug Peppas!)

benno_r
17th November 2015, 08:02 PM
Not much I can say that hasn't been said.

Thanks to Nadg, Hatcy and other organisers. Thanks to members of the clubs we were lucky enough to play. Thanks again to Nadg for the use of the clicgear - most appreciated!

RA was special as always, and thoroughly enjoyed my rounds at Sandy Creek, Victor Harbour, and Kooyonga. Tanunda and Glenelg certainly exceeded expectations for me, 2 great days there.

Kitchener of the trip was the Yankalilla Victory Kitchener (thanks Nadge), and honourable mentions go to Bakery on Oconnell, and Absolutely Rapt @ Mount Compass.

Congrats to all the winners as well!

Edit: Dayum - too many windows open - got the threads mixed up:

Positive Feedback:
Courses - superb
Organisation - outstanding
NTP and markers - excellent
Trophies - best around

Negative Feedback:
Prefer a true seeded draw on the last day
Travel distance
Courses with too many trees
Too many damn flies

Overall, not too much to complain about. While not really a criticism, having RA on the Sunday every year, I worry it might become "stale".

Peppas
17th November 2015, 08:12 PM
All say 'Ahhhh' for Jim! I'm sure we could have found you something Jim! (give him a hug Peppas!)

Pretty sure he might've got one on Monday

If not there was plenty of high fives and fist bumps

highballin
17th November 2015, 08:12 PM
I would like to suggest there is a prize on Sat & Sun for lowest score off the stick. We have some very good low markers amongst us who are not likely to have over 40pts at RA. I think it would Create another contest within our groups and keep it interesting for them.

Hatchman
17th November 2015, 08:47 PM
I would like to suggest there is a prize on Sat & Sun for lowest score off the stick. We have some very good low markers amongst us who are not likely to have over 40pts at RA. I think it would Create another contest within our groups and keep it interesting for them.

As the lowest marker for the last 2 years you would think I'd agree to this but I don't. I don't think an off the stick prize is necessary to cater for a few low markers and it requires all to play holes out rather than picking up when the shots are used up.
If low markers want to win they just need to play better, simple IMHO. Personally I get more out of a higher marker playing well on good S.A Courses over my own desire to win. It won't stop me trying to do my best but it's more about the social aspect of the game for me.

If the majority think it's a good idea it will be in.

highballin
17th November 2015, 08:58 PM
Yeah good point on playing out. Maybe a single figures stableford prize. I just think that some recognition for the lower handicap players would be good. More of a prestige thing than a big prize if you know what I mean.

coalesce
17th November 2015, 09:09 PM
A compromise would be to have multiple grades like your club comp would have.

thecollective
17th November 2015, 09:14 PM
I totally agree on the vines hosting the Kitchener cup next year. A big tick from me

Peppas
17th November 2015, 09:18 PM
I totally agree on the vines hosting the Kitchener cup next year. A big tick from me

Is this because half the SAnkers are members at the Vines and you need the home course advantage for a chance to win back the cup? Just saying.

PS Kitcheners are delicious. The interstaters obviously appreciate them more so their appetite to win them is greater.

highballin
17th November 2015, 09:22 PM
A compromise would be to have multiple grades like your club comp would have.

I like it. Don't have to be big prizes just some recognition for each grade winner.

Lagerlover
17th November 2015, 09:24 PM
I totally agree on the vines hosting the Kitchener cup next year. A big tick from me I won't have the time to captain the SA team next year sorry... the commitment this year obviously affected my game.

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 08:26 AM
A compromise would be to have multiple grades like your club comp would have.

That could be a possibility and I assume your talking nett in grades?
The numbers we get don't require anything more than A & B thou. The hcp spread would also need to be worked out once all hcps of participants are known too.

If the field size is small this doesn't work either.

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 08:29 AM
I like the idea of The Vines as Kitchener Cup venue.

Tanunda, Barrosa Valley and Lady Bay

coalesce
18th November 2015, 08:32 AM
That could be a possibility and I assume your talking nett in grades?
The numbers we get don't require anything more than A & B thou. The hcp spread would also need to be worked out once all hcps of participants are known too.

If the field size is small this doesn't work either.

Yeah I meant still have stableford but divide it into groups appropriate to the spread of players we have

coalesce
18th November 2015, 08:34 AM
I like the idea of The Vines as Kitchener Cup venue.

Tanunda, Barrosa Valley and Lady Bay

Assuming you don't mean playing all of those, we should try and avoid going north south north again. Having said that, wherever we play on Sat is likely to be outside the CBD one way or another

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 08:45 AM
I like the idea of The Vines as Kitchener Cup venue.

Tanunda, Barrosa Valley and Lady Bay are worthy options for the Saturday 1st Round of Champs. LLB and Tanunda we can get on easy enough. Barrosa I couldn't see being a problem but would need to confirm. There is no Comp round in the afternoon at LLB to enter thou if that bothers anyone wanting to Golflink their rounds.
Dare I suggest my home track Kapunda for the Saturday. You'll be hard pressed to find a more welcoming club and group of people. Concession priced green fees plus comp fee for $20 or under (last group of guests I got on it only cost them either $10-15)

We won't get on Saturdays at tier 1&2's clubs in metro Adelaide as they are full members days.

I'd like to suggest Blackwood and Flagstaff Hill as options for rounds that are outside of Sat-Sun.

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 08:48 AM
Assuming you don't mean playing all of those, we should try and avoid going north south north again. Having said that, wherever we play on Sat is likely to be outside the CBD one way or another

Na, not suggesting all. Just listing possibilities to consider.

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 08:50 AM
Had to double check. How'd you quote my post content before I'd finished and sent it.
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Ferrins
18th November 2015, 08:52 AM
Don't need grades just need low markers who don't shank and tank.

WBennett
18th November 2015, 09:22 AM
I didn't take much notice of this beforehand, but would be interested in making the trip next year.

coalesce
18th November 2015, 10:09 AM
Had to double check. How'd you quote my post content before I'd finished and sent it.
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I dunno - that was how it showed up on tapatalk!

coalesce
18th November 2015, 10:10 AM
I didn't take much notice of this beforehand, but would be interested in making the trip next year.

The more the merrier!

Hatchman
18th November 2015, 11:48 AM
Don't need grades just need low markers who don't shank and tank.

My game resembled that although the shanks didn't occur until the last day.

Ferrins
18th November 2015, 12:01 PM
Birdie one par 5 and washing all the rest did not help my Champs😩

Yossarian
18th November 2015, 12:50 PM
Negatives:

The clash with the GSM/WA Champs - even them being in the same month is going to deter visitors from interstate to one or other of them, and the visitors are what makes the event extra special because they are the ones we only get to play with once a year (unless we ourselves travel interstate). Having said that, November does seem to be the best month to play here in terms of course conditions - if we go later in the year it will be dryer and hotter, and also starts to clash with Christmas/New Year and then Vic Champs. If we go earlier, the courses won't be in as good a condition which will be noticeable on the non-Tier 1s


I think WA will be looking to move to a more autumnish timeslot.

nadg63
18th November 2015, 04:02 PM
Is this because half the SAnkers are members at the Vines and you need the home course advantage for a chance to win back the cup? Just saying.

PS Kitcheners are delicious. The interstaters obviously appreciate them more so their appetite to win them is greater.

Re. being Vines members, if you could see us playing there week in week out you'd know that this is nothing to worry about Peppas! ;) :)

Peppas
18th November 2015, 04:16 PM
Re. being Vines members, if you could see us playing there week in week out you'd know that this is nothing to worry about Peppas! ;) :)

Yeah ok, I mean getting touched up on your home track in Kitchener Cup would really make sledging easy the following year :)

nadg63
18th November 2015, 05:30 PM
Yeah ok, I mean getting touched up on your home track in Kitchener Cup would really make sledging easy the following year :)

Mmmm, good point -venue change already lol :D

nadg63
19th November 2015, 05:03 PM
Not much I can say that hasn't been said.

RA was special as always, and thoroughly enjoyed my rounds at Sandy Creek, Victor Harbour, and Kooyonga. Tanunda and Glenelg certainly exceeded expectations for me, 2 great days there.

Negative Feedback:
Prefer a true seeded draw on the last day
Travel distance
Courses with too many trees
Too many damn flies

Overall, not too much to complain about. While not really a criticism, having RA on the Sunday every year, I worry it might become "stale".

What are the thoughts of others, both local and interstaters, on the above comment regarding RAGC being kept as a regular venue on the Sunday!?

From the point of view here as organisers we thought it was what you guys, especially from Interstate, would like/prefer, playing one of the best rated courses in the State/country, is this NOT the case?!

Us locally based players can play there anytime as we know the 'right' people ;)

So would you prefer the Sunday venue was alternated? Very interested to get your views/input on this............... !?

3Puttpete
19th November 2015, 05:32 PM
I'm in a number of minds about this.

Is RA part of the attraction? Absolutely but it's not a deal breaker.
Would it be nice to play different courses? Yes but is this reason enough to skip such a magnificent golf course?

After QLD Champs I'm a big fan of the idea of staying on course even if it means playing the same course twice but some (even me) may see this as a lost opportunity to play somewhere different.

Champs is about the people. Ultimately, the courses don't determine my attendance. Time and money make that decision for me.

highballin
19th November 2015, 05:45 PM
I love playing at RA and am quite happy to play there every year. I guess the question is where else would be able to get 20 to 30 people on a tier 1 course on a Sunday anyway ?

coalesce
19th November 2015, 06:20 PM
I'm in a number of minds about this.

Is RA part of the attraction? Absolutely but it's not a deal breaker.
Would it be nice to play different courses? Yes but is this reason enough to skip such a magnificent golf course?

After QLD Champs I'm a big fan of the idea of staying on course even if it means playing the same course twice but some (even me) may see this as a lost opportunity to play somewhere different.

Champs is about the people. Ultimately, the courses don't determine my attendance. Time and money make that decision for me.

When you say staying on course, what do you mean? Having somewhere where the accommodation is at/near the course? Does the Links Hotel satisfy this for RA? There aren't any courses with hotel complexes in or around the CBD in Adelaide that I know of

Hatchman
19th November 2015, 06:27 PM
When you say staying on course, what do you mean? Having somewhere where the accommodation is at/near the course? Does the Links Hotel satisfy this for RA? There aren't any courses with hotel complexes in or around the CBD in Adelaide that I know of

Yeh nothing in Adelaide Metro.
S.A options for on course are:
Tanunda
Links Lady Bay
McCracken
Clare
Barmera
Renmark

There are other courses that are close to Barmera and Renmark with Berri, Loxton and even Waikerie only 30min from Barmera and 45min from Renmark.

Tanunda has Barrosa Valley 10-15mins away and a bit further out Mount Pleasant and Kapunda around 30mins away.

McCracken has Victor Harbour within 5mins and South Lakes roughly 20mins. Links Lady Bay is only 30-40mins from there also.

Clare is the only one that has nothing close. Next closest greens course is an old home club of mine Balaklava roughly 40mins away but is in middle of bumf**k nowhere.

Some may notice I've left Wirrina out as a play and stay option. There's a good reason for that, it's sh!t for accommodation and course.

coalesce
19th November 2015, 06:52 PM
Tho several hours drive from Adelaide to get there...

wazamac
19th November 2015, 07:04 PM
Does it have to be in the CBD? We could easily take people up to the Riverland for 2 nights, 3 rounds.

3Puttpete
19th November 2015, 07:06 PM
When you say staying on course, what do you mean? Having somewhere where the accommodation is at/near the course? Does the Links Hotel satisfy this for RA? There aren't any courses with hotel complexes in or around the CBD in Adelaide that I know of

Resort type stuff. Hotel/course.

Maybe it was just that everybody was in the same place.

Hatchman
19th November 2015, 07:20 PM
Tho several hours drive from Adelaide to get there...

I can get there just as quick as it takes me to get to Victor Harbour. 2hrs 15-20mins to Renmark as the minister and I do that trip several times a year just for dinner at our favourite eatery.


Does it have to be in the CBD? We could easily take people up to the Riverland for 2 nights, 3 rounds.

Your right Waz, the Riverland would be a great option one year maybe or a good weekend away for us S.A guys some other time of the year as a recon trip ��

thecollective
19th November 2015, 07:27 PM
IMO you would be mad to give up ANY opportunity to play RA during champs. I cannot see how anyone could grow stale of this course, I have played it about 15 times and get something different out of it everytime

But as the name suggests - its about the collective opinion; not just mine

TC

benno_r
19th November 2015, 07:32 PM
Don't get me wrong lads, I am not saying I won't come if RA is on the list. I know from other interests I have, we ended up passing on interstate trips because locations were never mixed up.

Some people like a bit of variety. Personally, playing courses I haven't played before is a massive incentive for me.

Just food for thought.

Hatchman
19th November 2015, 07:49 PM
Don't get me wrong lads, I am not saying I won't come if RA is on the list. I know from other interests I have, we ended up passing on interstate trips because locations were never mixed up.

Some people like a bit of variety. Personally, playing courses I haven't played before is a massive incentive for me.

Just food for thought.

I fully get what your saying Benno and is something we need to be mindful of.
I like you, enjoy playing courses I've never played before.
I think I can safely speak for my SA organising brothers in that the intention so far has been to include different courses in the mix around the Royal Adelaide game to avoid the pitfalls of being stale. Being able to get onto Royal Adelaide is one of the big attractions to get other fellow OzGolfers over for the SA Champs.
At some point down the track we will run out of other new courses around that to play.

3Puttpete
19th November 2015, 07:55 PM
include different courses in the mix around the Royal Adelaide game to avoid the pitfalls of being stale.

This

3Puttpete
19th November 2015, 07:56 PM
IMO you would be mad to give up ANY opportunity to play RA during champs. I cannot see how anyone could grow stale of this course

And this

thecollective
19th November 2015, 08:09 PM
No and then!

wazamac
19th November 2015, 08:30 PM
It's the first time I have played RA and lived here for nearly 40 years. Considering I play my home track 8-10 times a month and now that I'm with Ozgolf and get to play RA once a year, It won't get stale for me.
There are still many tracks around SA that I still haven't played, and a lot that I've only played once. It all comes down to you guys that have played some of these courses to see their potential for Champs.
Over the weekend I played 3 courses that I had never seen and enjoyed them all.

WBennett
19th November 2015, 08:33 PM
RA and Kooyonga would be major attractions to me. If you can get on the best course in the state and mix the others up you are on the right track.

nadg63
19th November 2015, 08:39 PM
I fully get what your saying Benno and is something we need to be mindful of.
I like you, enjoy playing courses I've never played before.
I think I can safely speak for my SA organising brothers in that the intention so far has been to include different courses in the mix around the Royal Adelaide game to avoid the pitfalls of being stale. Being able to get onto Royal Adelaide is one of the big attractions to get other fellow OzGolfers over for the SA Champs.
At some point down the track we will run out of other new courses around that to play.

Hatchy pretty much covers above how we as organisers have viewed the SA Champs, RAGC on the Sunday, then try to pick different locations for the other days. For a weekend round, RAGC is probably the only Grade 1 course we have a hope in hell of getting a booking, and that is only available to us on a Sunday. One thing to bear in mind where RAGC is concerned is the fact that it would not take too many more participants to take us over the available guest quota without getting another member on board to help out!

Where the Saturday round is concerned we are also quite limited in options as most clubs close to the CBD, (and by that I'm including the likes of The Vines, Blackwood etc, are normally fully booked out with their own members - hence the Champs having to travel a bit on that day. In some of the feedback I have received it has been mentioned that Tanunda Pines was preferred over Gawler/Sandy Creek; as not many visitors played Tanunda and I believe we can get on there for a Saturday round that already puts it in the running! (is probably the same distance northwards from the CBD as VHGC is southwards!?)

That would then leave the rounds for Thursday, Friday, Monday open for unused venues.

To keep it all 'close' from a traveling perspective isn't that straightforward, again due to course availability. Personally I am not a fan of heading all the way out to the Riverland, interstaters have already made to effort to travel here without lobbing the trek there on top PLUS it's a long way from the airport if having to rush back!?

Here is a hypothetical proposal for what next years Champs COULD be course wise, note 'could be', this is not to be taken as gospel, just a possible scenario!

Thurs - Flagstaff Hill/Adelaide Shores - that's close to the airport!?
Fri - The Vines (Kitchener Cup)
Sat - Tanunda - Champs Rd 1
Sun - RAGC - Champs Rd 2
Mon - Blackwood, (Glenelg/Kooyonga!?)

This would keep travel distances down, Tanunda being the furthest away, 95 minutes from the airport: Flaggy, Vines, Blackwood are approx 40 minutes from the city. Other course that spring to mind are Barossa, Links Lady Bay, McCracken, Fleurieu, (tho I'm still not sure what is happening down there!?), but al these are once again introducing long travel times, along with the North-South logistics.

wazamac
19th November 2015, 08:48 PM
We Can throw West Lakes and Grange in there as Options as well. Only saying Grange as Jimandr was stating he would like to play there as somewhere different.
I am like Hatchy on this one and don't think it is worth the coin they are asking, especially IMO there are better tier 2 courses than at Grange.

Hatchman
19th November 2015, 09:00 PM
Some of us aren't big fans of the place but Tee Tree Gully is honestly worthy of inclusion.
My old man is a Monday member and I do know the Club Manager.

nadg63
19th November 2015, 09:06 PM
Some of us aren't big fans of the place but Tee Tree Gully is honestly worthy of inclusion.
My old man is a Monday member and I do know the Club Manager.

:)

That could be handy, I no longer know any members there hence why I didn't include it. Never been there, but I am guessing this would have to be a non-weekend round?

Lagerlover
19th November 2015, 09:11 PM
And we can all stay at TC's joint!!

Ferrins
19th November 2015, 09:26 PM
RA and Kooyonga would be major attractions to me. If you can get on the best course in the state and mix the others up you are on the right track.

+1

jimandr
19th November 2015, 09:30 PM
You guys are overthinking some of this, and reacting to every individual point made.

The bottom line is that the event itself is the main attractor, with the fun and banter and other stuff, and the Tier 1 courses are next in line. So you need to do what you can to get two tier ones on the roster each year. Royal Adelaide is being handed to us on a plate and at a discount, so we play there every year until Marcel gets tired of us.

My personal view is that the Kitchener Cup is best played on a Friday, at a lower level course. Saturday is wherever we can get on, Sunday is RA and Monday is either Kooyonga or Glenelg, depending upon how successful our local contact is. If our local contact is very successful, we may be able to do Thursday at one, and Monday at the other. I would certainly do a full 5 days if that was the likely schedule.

I didn't get to meet Dave T, but if Chilled needs a Kitchener to keep him onside, I'll buy it (and eat it before it reaches the course, probably).

RA might get stale for us eventually. For me, that could be 20 years into the future. I love the place.

Ferrins
19th November 2015, 09:30 PM
Kooyonga on the Monday👍

Peppas
19th November 2015, 09:37 PM
I personally wouldn't mind a hit at the Grange but that is just me. I like to try different things sometimes, though I am also of the opinion when on a good thing then keep going with it, ie bulk kitcheners whenever I am in SA.

Ned
19th November 2015, 09:40 PM
Lefty asked for feedback on the Vic Champs, maybe seek his thoughts.

Hatchman
19th November 2015, 09:42 PM
:)

That could be handy, I no longer know any members there hence why I didn't include it. Never been there, but I am guessing this would have to be a non-weekend round?

Correct, would have to be a non weekend round. TTG is one of the most used courses in the state by its members.

coalesce
19th November 2015, 11:12 PM
I'm sure there's plenty of courses we could still play that aren't Adelaide Shores :)

Grange could only ever be a Thu/Mon option as they will want too much money for us to get enough of a discount to attract enough local players (as we know no members). Potentially an afternoon round on Thurs on one of the courses and Mon on the other could be doable at about $100/head/round

Peppas
20th November 2015, 09:08 AM
More food would be good

Looks like I didn't put on any weight while in the southern state. What the F is all I have to say.

PerryGroves
20th November 2015, 09:09 AM
I'll kick the thread off and say Schnit House was House of much disapoint. We were crammed in like sardines, could not hear each other speak, two of the crew could not be fit in and the meal was small and average at best.
I was looking forward to it and it was more disappointing than my golf game ☹.

Geez Hatch after crisis crossing the state eating schnitzel, you found the boys a shit schnit. Should have gone out for some King George whiting.

Ferrins
20th November 2015, 09:28 AM
Geez Hatch after crisis crossing the state eating schnitzel, you found the boys a shit schnit. Should have gone out for some King George whiting.

Ordered King George Whiting at Kooyonga and for $19 got a small frozen piece of pre crumbed fish that had been reheated in oil or microwave with 4 medium sized chips and a salad garnish the size of a 50c piece.

Ferrins
20th November 2015, 09:31 AM
Best breaky - Cafe at the Grange beach
Best Lunch - Gawler GC
Best dinner - Shitshouse

Ferrins
11th December 2015, 07:38 AM
For me the trip soured when it became apparent that all the games would be off the forward tees. I know that my scores were shite but have never really tried in forward tee stableford. It's like you're used to playing best of three set tennis in Beisbane and then travel all the way to Adelaide for first to 4 games fast tennis. I would like to play this again so maybe I need to play more Stablefords with the vets to prepare psychologically.

Lagerlover
11th December 2015, 07:59 AM
I would like even more time for lunch in between nines.

Ferrins
11th December 2015, 08:11 AM
I really enjoyed the lunch at Gawler.

Ferrins
11th December 2015, 08:12 AM
Not that it was great but compared to all the other crap being dished up.

Peppas
11th December 2015, 09:03 AM
That lunch at Gawler was a mistake

thecollective
11th December 2015, 04:13 PM
Ferrins: Tanunda comp is always off the blue tees which is the second to last, you will not feel shortened by the experience should Tanunda host the Saturday game next year

As for RA - trust me you would not want to play off the blue tees

Hatchman
11th December 2015, 04:22 PM
Ferrins: Tanunda comp is always off the blue tees which is the second to last, you will not feel shortened by the experience should Tanunda host the Saturday game next year

As for RA - trust me you would not want to play off the blue tees

Blues at RA longer but not so bad, it's the Black plates that make you feel in-adequate.

wazamac
11th December 2015, 06:11 PM
It's the red tees I worry about the most. Just trying to get past them can make my heart turn.

highballin
11th December 2015, 06:29 PM
It's the red tees I worry about the most. Just trying to get past them can make my heart turn.

Yes I hear you. When you top one and lookup and there's the red tees 80m down the track:roll:

wazamac
11th December 2015, 06:45 PM
Thanks for reminding me. Barossa wasn't it. I had forgotten about that but can't forget what a magnificent 3 wood you posses.

Lagerlover
11th December 2015, 06:50 PM
The Phantom / Current SA Champ left his short of the Reds on his very first hole...

It just goes to show, if you don't believe, you don't receive.

highballin
11th December 2015, 07:13 PM
Thanks for reminding me. Barossa wasn't it. I had forgotten about that but can't forget what a magnificent 3 wood you posses.

Haha yes Barossa but RA on Sunday champs I think it was about 15 or so and I had it on a string with the driver up till then. Wind behind requiring a draw and I said to myself let's give this a right touch up! Straight into the crap short of the Reds and had to take a drop :(

Ohh my