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magman
28th October 2015, 01:15 AM
What do people mean by a forgiving driver. To me you either slice or hook the driver, or top it. I understand with irons you can get game improvement irons with very wide soles to stop it digging in if one is a chunker, weighted on the sole to help with topping it. But drivers being forgiving dont make sense to me.

TheNuclearOne
28th October 2015, 01:24 AM
Go and compare an SLDR 430 to a Ping G30 to get a good idea.

Much of it's about MOI, which is basically forgiveness i think. A really forgiving driver vs a non will give you straighter longer shots on off center contact. Low MOI drivers will create more curve on off center hit and lose more ballspeed. Low face hits will likely stay in the air longer too. It can be quite dramatic overall.

Good hits won't matter much obviously.

Hutchy
28th October 2015, 02:44 AM
Forgiving driver means the one that doesn't over punish on the off centre hits. IMO

Gammon
28th October 2015, 06:12 AM
For me if you swap out different heads on the same shaft I get very smilar results when struck in the middle. I consider a forgiving driver one that costs me less yards and accuracy when I hit it toe, heel, high and low on the face (most of the time unfortunately ). Get your hands on a blade 7 iron, all good when you hit it somewhere near the middle but when you miss the middle you pay.

Daves
28th October 2015, 07:10 AM
The Ping G30 is a classic for understanding forgiveness, because the black face shows up exactly where you catch the ball each time. The effective "sweet spot" is huge. The only place I have noticed any lost of distance with an off centre strike so far, is quite low on the face.

Obviously there is a limit somewhere short of the the face extremities. But that is other other thing about the G30, it is so easy to find its enlarged sweet spot most of the time, that you rarely feel a poor strike. Some many shots just feel pure off its face.

Additionally, side spin seems to be quite muted, at least on the SF TEC, so there is less left or right action on poor swings. I find it quite hard to hook, despite its closed face look.

I use game golf tracking, and the driver data shows a very tight dispersion (distance and accuracy) for the G30, compared to most other drivers.

WBennett
28th October 2015, 07:11 AM
A forgiving driver?

When she picks you up at about 8pm, after you finished golf at 12 and have spent 8 hours drinking and punting and having a great time. If she doesn't yell at you that night or give you the silent treatment the next day, she's a forgiving driver :lol:

mrbluu
28th October 2015, 07:45 AM
A forgiving driver?

When she picks you up at about 8pm, after you finished golf at 12 and have spent 8 hours drinking and punting and having a great time. If she doesn't yell at you that night or give you the silent treatment the next day, she's a forgiving driver [emoji38]
I thought monsta was there drinking with u ;)

D22marshall
28th October 2015, 08:20 AM
The Ping G30 is a classic for understanding forgiveness, because the black face shows up exactly where you catch the ball each time. The effective "sweet spot" is huge. The only place I have noticed any lost of distance with an off centre strike so far, is quite low on the face. Obviously there is a limit somewhere short of the the face extremities. But that is other other thing about the G30, it is so easy to find its enlarged sweet spot most of the time, that you rarely feel a poor strike. Some many shots just feel pure off its face. Additionally, side spin seems to be quite muted, at least on the SF TEC, so there is less left or right action on poor swings. I find it quite hard to hook, despite its closed face look.I use game golf tracking, and the driver data shows a very tight dispersion (distance and accuracy) for the G30, compared to most other drivers.Does the g30 make it also harder to shape the ball? Usually forgiveness means less workability.Hard to get the best of body worlds

Daves
28th October 2015, 08:59 AM
Does the g30 make it also harder to shape the ball? Usually forgiveness means less workability.Hard to get the best of body worlds

Yep, tends to be pretty straight. You really have to work hard to put any big shape on it, I find. I can still drawn and fade it, by it tends to be quite subtle turn. Not a totally bad thing in my case, gives me a much larger margin for error.

cratcliffe
28th October 2015, 09:03 AM
A forgiving driver?

When she picks you up at about 8pm, after you finished golf at 12 and have spent 8 hours drinking and punting and having a great time. If she doesn't yell at you that night or give you the silent treatment the next day, she's a forgiving driver :lol:
Where do you get one of those!!!
Will trade if anyone is looking to offload theirs

jocker
28th October 2015, 09:05 AM
I think most people talk forgiveness as in off-centre strikes. To get forgiveness from heel/toe strikes you want the weight of head to be as far back as possible (to stop the club from twisting), and a decent bulge of the club face to give you gear effect (making a toe strike draw back to target and a heel strike cut back to target).

Irons can't get much weight back and have no bulge.. Hybrids have lots of both, hence much more forgiving.

WBennett
28th October 2015, 10:26 AM
Where do you get one of those!!!
Will trade if anyone is looking to offload theirs

I have only heard about them. But they are made from Unobtainium, and cost an absolute fortune in unexpected maintenance costs.

TheNuclearOne
28th October 2015, 10:30 AM
A forgiving driver?

When she picks you up at about 8pm, after you finished golf at 12 and have spent 8 hours drinking and punting and having a great time. If she doesn't yell at you that night or give you the silent treatment the next day, she's a forgiving driver :lol:

This sounds like a Taylormade ad, but better :D