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3oneday
21st September 2015, 11:06 AM
Interested in what I should be expecting with regard distance gaps between irons.

Of late I've noticed that I am hitting my 9 iron 120 to 125, my wedge 110 to 115 but I am struggling to hit my 5 iron 155. My irons have stiff KBS 90's.

I even hit a 21 degree hybrid only about 160, this has a reg flex NV85.

I shot 6 over Satdy with two doubles and hit 9 greens, but the distance thing is starting to confuse me.

I hit a 9 iron over the back of one green when I had 115 to the back, a 3/4 wedge over another green which was just a flick at 95, but sailed over by 15 or more metres.

Maybe I should be getting the lofts of the Toppies checked too?

Old age is clearly setting in I guess.

Dangals
21st September 2015, 11:10 AM
What sort of swing speed would you have?

The other and possibly biggest factor will be strike - the longer the club the harder to consistently hit the middle and this will undoubtedly have an impact on your distances.

mrbluu
21st September 2015, 11:17 AM
Bring your irons over for me to check, but you probably need softer shafts and a laser rangefinder as well!!!

Peppas
21st September 2015, 11:20 AM
You want some Callaway irons with reg shafts? :)

Steve
21st September 2015, 11:23 AM
Take the same swing with both the mid and short irons, I have a feeling you 3/4 back swing your short irons which is creating a better tempo.

But what would I know

3oneday
21st September 2015, 11:23 AM
I was thinking of playing my x hot reg irons from 4 to 6 actually. Maybe I'll do that this weekend.

Scifisicko
21st September 2015, 11:24 AM
Interested in what I should be expecting with regard distance gaps between irons.

Of late I've noticed that I am hitting my 9 iron 120 to 125, my wedge 110 to 115 but I am struggling to hit my 5 iron 155. My irons have stiff KBS 90's.

I even hit a 21 degree hybrid only about 160, this has a reg flex NV85.



Flipping?

3oneday
21st September 2015, 11:26 AM
Take the same swing with both the mid and short irons, I have a feeling you 3/4 back swing your short irons which is creating a better tempo.

But what would I knowactually might be something like that with a variation. I have been working on seeing the club out of the corner of my eye at the top and usually do with the short ones. Tempo is probably better on the short ones as a result.

stopper
21st September 2015, 12:44 PM
Perhaps quality of the strike ?

Today I hit a couple of 6 irons 135ish, a couple 155 and most around 145-147. I'm putting it down to missing the middle by fractions.

Perhaps being too steep ? ... which I find can be more of a problem with longer irons ? I find when I shallow my swing I hit my long clubs (actually) all clubs better.

Stuartd147
21st September 2015, 01:26 PM
Go to Paul Jenner at Pure Performance and get your clubs and your swing tested and measured. Once armed with the facts you can determine what the issues are. Will take 1-2 hours and may be the best $150-200 you spend.....stu

stopper
21st September 2015, 01:38 PM
I don't think it's equipment, for mine it is swing swing related in particular to the longer clubs.

I'm just a hacker but hit a few balls from in between to tee pegs/balls whatever... with a 5 iron. See if centre strikes give you better distance gapping in those longer clubs.

Jarro
21st September 2015, 01:39 PM
Old age

Peppas
21st September 2015, 01:49 PM
Senility

mrbluu
21st September 2015, 01:50 PM
Too much LOFT?

3oneday
21st September 2015, 02:41 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?

Dangals
21st September 2015, 02:49 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?

Just looked at my stats and the average gap between all my clubs is 10m for stock shots

Jarro
21st September 2015, 02:59 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?

For people of our (limited) ability, you'd have to expect spacings of between 8 - 12 meters .... owing to inconsistent ball striking.

chappy1970
21st September 2015, 04:14 PM
Flipping?

This .

If my iron distances are down it's usually because I'm flipping.

If I'm compressing the ball properly, I have no issue

3Puttpete
21st September 2015, 04:35 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?

As long as it's the same every (most) time and you know what it is, the number doesn't matter

davidw88
21st September 2015, 05:28 PM
I have about 10 metres between each iron, but when I get to wedges it goes out to about 15 as I flip it bad and they just go up and no where.

razaar
21st September 2015, 07:15 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?Depends. Sometimes there may be no gap because of swing issues that cause mishits and/or power leaks. Power leaks include swaying, loose coil, slack in the left arm/shoulder at the top, poor transition, casting, goat humping, dropping right hip, ball position, slapping the ball - to name a few.
Sorry I can't be more helpful.

FuzzyJuzzy
25th September 2015, 03:00 PM
Totally off topic, but speaking of distances, I played Stonecutters Tuesday morning in absolute howling winds. On the par 3 11th directly into the wind I took a 6-iron, hit it well and barely got it to 135m to front portion of the green. Then on the par 5 15th, straight downwind, I carried my 6-iron 180m. Felt pretty chuffed about going driver, 6-iron to be just over the back of the green for two on a par 5 (albeit a short par 5), but then remembered I was playing on couch fairways and had the roaring 40s up my tail...

Tank33
25th September 2015, 04:07 PM
Anyway, enough about me.

Is 10 metres a proper gap between clubs you reckon?, or is it more like 8?

Yeah I think it would be between 8-10m for most of us but I think carry distance gapping is more relevant than total distance gapping.
If you hit 9i 120-125m, you should be hitting your 5i 160-165m.
160m with 21 hybrid is also very weird.
Are you getting your usual height with your 5i?
If you hit your 21 hybrid 160m, that's way off too.

For your reference, I hit my 9i-120m, 5i-160m and 22 hybrid-180m. I have never struggled with distance gaps as long as I hit them properly.

3oneday
25th September 2015, 04:23 PM
If I get out tomorrow i'll see what transpires.

shanksalot
26th September 2015, 11:08 PM
The same thing happened to me when I learned to release later and de-loft the club by getting the hands in front of the ball at impact,
compressing the ball. you can hear the " thwack " sound instead of the clicking sound.
My iron distances before learning this were
pw -100m 9i-110m 8i-120m 7i-130m 6i-140m 5i-150m 4i-160m 3-hybrid 23` 170m all nice and tidy numbers.

after learning to compress the ball and with same clubs

pw- 100m 9i-120m 8i-135m 7i-145m 6i-155m 5i-160m 4i-165m 3hybrid-180m

I recently got my local pro / club builder to try to bend the 9i weaker { TM R7 irons} which he did [just] to now hit 115m
and the 8i bent to 130m
I might see if he can get the pw a degree stronger for 105m.
I think smaller distances between shorter irons say 8-10m and longer distances between clubs for longer irons would be ideal.
when you are 100m - 140m from the green you are looking to stick the ball closer to the pin. and need smaller gaps
When 140m or more out probably just happy to hit the green and 2 putt so take the longer club and swing easy if between clubs
I really need a new set of sticks ,forged for easy bending and progressive cavity for more forgiveness on the longer clubs
I see some bending of clubheads in your future .....or as a true oz golfer ,you should ho some new irons Santa style Ho Ho Ho

3oneday
27th September 2015, 06:26 AM
Nah, toppies are fine.

Hit a 9 iron 135 yesterday, such is life :)

mrbluu
27th September 2015, 08:32 AM
Nah, toppies are fine.

Hit a 9 iron 135 yesterday, such is life :)
Super windy day???

3oneday
27th September 2015, 10:01 AM
Not at that time, just pured it, to a 125 metre back edge. A "woops" moment :lol:

chappy1970
27th September 2015, 10:09 AM
The same thing happened to me when I learned to release later and de-loft the club by getting the hands in front of the ball at impact,
compressing the ball. you can hear the " thwack " sound instead of the clicking sound.
My iron distances before learning this were
pw -100m 9i-110m 8i-120m 7i-130m 6i-140m 5i-150m 4i-160m 3-hybrid 23` 170m all nice and tidy numbers.

after learning to compress the ball and with same clubs

pw- 100m 9i-120m 8i-135m 7i-145m 6i-155m 5i-160m 4i-165m 3hybrid-180m

I recently got my local pro / club builder to try to bend the 9i weaker { TM R7 irons} which he did [just] to now hit 115m
and the 8i bent to 130m
I might see if he can get the pw a degree stronger for 105m.
I think smaller distances between shorter irons say 8-10m and longer distances between clubs for longer irons would be ideal.
when you are 100m - 140m from the green you are looking to stick the ball closer to the pin. and need smaller gaps
When 140m or more out probably just happy to hit the green and 2 putt so take the longer club and swing easy if between clubs
I really need a new set of sticks ,forged for easy bending and progressive cavity for more forgiveness on the longer clubs
I see some bending of clubheads in your future .....or as a true oz golfer ,you should ho some new irons Santa style Ho Ho Ho

Shanks this is sometimes called Pro spacing. The traditional loft of the club becomes irrelevant, it becomes entirely about the distance between clubs.

In my opinion, a very really option for your game if you have a repeatable swing and access to club bending equipment.

It's also becoming more common these days

shanksalot
28th September 2015, 09:30 PM
Gday Chappy.
Thought there might be a term for it. Thanks for the info
Seems I have outgrown my beloved old TM r7s.[ with ladies flex shafts marked R] They just are not bendable to more than about 1`
Local club builder /pro had trouble getting that.
So I solved the problem yesterday , and bought a set of KZG evolution forged irons. Progressive cavity irons. project x 6.0 soft stepped . off one of the members here.

The soft flex in the taylor mades are also creating a big draw bordering on duck hooks. I really have to ease off to get a straighter ball flight.
My ball striking / swing is consistent and the local pro is happy to bend clubs for $5 each.
Hcp is 8 with very average short game / putting
When I get new clubs will test and tune . will pull them apart to moi match using 1/3 sw method . no swing weight scale here , just gram scales and balance point + calculator.
I guess pro spacing sounds better than chopper gaps!