Who is playing blades at the moment?

[meh]

Fixed my takeaway and shanks, hopefully, so just for a bit of fun I might get a set. What blades are people playing?

[mrbluu]

I'm thinking about reshafting my TM TP MB and play the 7-P or 8-P with my TM TP MC to make a combo set.

[Pencil]

Adams MB2's 4-pw at the moment.

[JADO75]

Cleveland 588 mb's get a run every now and then, best looking blade on the planet for mine & unbelievably soft feeling

[Jazz18]

Bagging my old pals at the moment. A set of Ben Hogan Apex 99 blades. Lovin it!

[mudrat]

Mp32's here.

[mrbluu]

Mp32's here.
Flusha!!!

[Johnny Canuck]

Adams MB2's 4-pw at the moment.

I miss them.

[Pencil]

I miss them.

You want to buy them back?

[Johnny Canuck]

You want to buy them back?

My game isn't tight enough for blades at the moment.

[Jazz18]

My game isn't tight enough for blades at the moment.

But if you miss them, wouldn't it make you feel good to bag them again? Feeling good is the first step to a good shot no?

[Johnny Canuck]

But if you miss them, wouldn't it make you feel good to bag them again? Feeling good is the first step to a good shot no?

I need to trial my new Super Peening Blues once they arrive. Adding new heads to the equation would just make things too confusing.

[LeftyHoges]

Do MP68's count as blades?

[Jazz18]

I need to trial my new Super Peening Blues once they arrive. Adding new heads to the equation would just make things too confusing.

Oh for sure. Fair enough. Wasn't trying to be a smart arse, was just saying that for me, the first step to a good shot is a good feeling. That's all :)

[Jazz18]

Do MP68's count as blades?

For sure. Nice ones at that!

[mrbluu]

Do MP68's count as blades? If you need to ask then no!!

[Johnny Canuck]

Oh for sure. Fair enough. Wasn't trying to be a smart arse, was just saying that for me, the first step to a good shot is a good feeling. That's all :)

I am hoping the Peenings bring a good feeling.

I disagree though, the first step to a good shot is the confidence in the club that you are holding

[FuzzyJuzzy]

714MBs with KBS Tour Stiff for me. Best irons I've ever owned. Before that was using 712MBs with hard-stepped R300 SuperLites. Both awesome sticks.

[Jazz18]

I am hoping the Peenings bring a good feeling.

I disagree though, the first step to a good shot is the confidence in the club that you are holding

True. I know what you mean. Maybe there's a bit of vanity on my part. I look at my blades and get a warm and cosy feeling so it puts me in a good place. I start each shot with a smile instead of "I don't know if I really like these clubs". That thought has never crosses my mind with my beloved Hogans.

[Stuartd147]

using my Miura Blades with C Taper Lites today!!

[Johnny Canuck]

True. I know what you mean. Maybe there's a bit of vanity on my part. I look at my blades and get a warm and cosy feeling so it puts me in a good place. I start each shot with a smile instead of "I don't know if I really like these clubs". That thought has never crosses my mind with my beloved Hogans.

I will grab another set of blades at some point in the future.

I was very close to pulling the trigger on the ones that you just grabbed.

[Jazz18]

I will grab another set of blades at some point in the future.

I was very close to pulling the trigger on the ones that you just grabbed.

Yeah I was stoked when I saw them come up. Will make them up with a set of KBS Tours I've got sitting around and see how they go. Should be nice.

[Jazz18]

using my Miura Blades with C Taper Lites today!!

Nice!

[Yossarian]

Blades are for choppas.

[Daves]

Blades are for choppas.

So which ones do you have?:-"

[LeftyHoges]

I am hoping the Peenings bring a good feeling.

I disagree though, the first step to a good shot is the confidence in the club that you are holding

My peen usually brings a super feeling.

[Johnny Canuck]

My peen usually brings a super feeling.

BANG!

[Pencil]

My peen usually brings a super feeling. 0.355 tip?

[rick3003]

I would love a set of Z945....

Don't know if my game is at that level though.

[Johnny Canuck]

My peen usually brings a super feeling.

Super Peening Orange?

[meh]

Got some j15 mb today. Just looking at them at address makes me think 50% more about not trying to bash them. They go high, went expecting that.

[Jazz18]

I would love a set of Z945....

Don't know if my game is at that level though.

Me too.........on both counts. Have hit the 6 iron with modus 130 in them and they are really nice.

[rick3003]

Got some j15 mb today. Just looking at them at address makes me think 50% more about not trying to bash them. They go high, went expecting that.
DG Pro?

Dibs

[rick3003]

Me too.........on both counts. Have hit the 6 iron with modus 130 in them and they are really nice.
They are near perfect at address

[Bitter]

I moved on my Cally X Proto's for something with forgiveness. I got the forgiveness but I really miss the look at address of the Cally's.

[meh]

DG Pro?

Dibs

yep.

noted. :)

[chappy1970]

I'm not at the moment, I have a mint set of MP33's that I'd put back in the bag if I was any way decent, which I'm not.

But this arrived today
36833

Sadly I only have the 5 iron, but I would seriously love a mint set of these bad boys

[Jazz18]

They are near perfect at address

They are so!

[timah!]

I moved on my Cally X Proto's for something with forgiveness. I got the forgiveness but I really miss the look at address of the Cally's.

I did the same with my Amp Cell Pro's. Bought RBladez Tours. I've bought my ACP's back. Ha!

[kiwitown]

I need to trial my new Super Peening Blues once they arrive. Adding new heads to the equation would just make things too confusing.

Amen, cant wait for mine to arrive from Hardboiled.... might start looking for heads to go in them as well..

[Lagerlover]

......

not at the moment

[BUSHY]

I'm not at the moment, I have a mint set of MP33's that I'd put back in the bag if I was any way decent, which I'm not.

But this arrived today
36833

Sadly I only have the 5 iron, but I would seriously love a mint set of these bad boys

I've got some 'old' 33's but I just received a refurbished mint PW head to complete the set. Actually about to reshaft them. I'll never get rid of them.

I'm always looking for Hogan Blades, I may have found a set of 1999's, wait and see.

Those Bridgestones look nice.

[Johnny Canuck]

Amen, cant wait for mine to arrive from Hardboiled.... might start looking for heads to go in them as well..

I have just shafted up my old TM300s in some PXs while I am waiting on the Peenings. I may actually give them a run in the Peenings once they get here. Old school!

[kiwitown]

I have just shafted up my old TM300s in some PXs while I am waiting on the Peenings. I may actually give them a run in the Peenings once they get here. Old school!

nice...Miura forged set or?

[hardboiled]

Anyone want to try these for fairly cheap. Seriously nice feeling heads.

36837

[kiwitown]

Anyone want to try these for fairly cheap. Seriously nice feeling heads.

36837

What kind of dollars? Hboiled..

[Jazz18]

I've got some 'old' 33's but I just received a refurbished mint PW head to complete the set. Actually about to reshaft them. I'll never get rid of them.

I'm always looking for Hogan Blades, I may have found a set of 1999's, wait and see.

Those Bridgestones look nice.

Apex 99's are the bizz man. That's what I'm playing at the moment. Would love a back up set. If you have a line on a set and don't pull the trigger, please let me know.

[Jazz18]

What kind of dollars? Hboiled..

I was going to ask exactly the same question.

[hardboiled]

What kind of dollars? Hboiled..
$160 not including the Yamaha head in the pic.

[Jazz18]

$160 not including the Yamaha head in the pic.

You want em KT? You asked first mate.

[Jazz18]

$160 not including the Yamaha head in the pic.

Any browning or discolouration on the faces HB? 4-PW i assume.

[hardboiled]

Any browning or discolouration on the faces HB? 4-PW i assume.
Yeah 4 to PW and no browning.

[kiwitown]

You want em KT? You asked first mate.

Mate you take them, I've been greedy this week, but I'll call first dibs.

Cheers

[Jazz18]

Yeah 4 to PW and no browning.

$160 posted is it?

[hardboiled]

$160 posted is it?
Yes mate chip chip

[Jazz18]

Yes mate chip chip

Cool I'll take them thanks HB. Sorry if missed something about it being posted. Ill send a PM and the money now. Cheers.

[vader77]

Mp32's here. I've got a set of MP-32s as well, with Jap Spec S300s in them. Best iron I've ever hit!!!

[Johnny Canuck]

nice...Miura forged set or?

Just the normal retail.

[Jazz18]

Mate you take them, I've been greedy this week, but I'll call first dibs.

Cheers

You got it mate

[Matt 3 Jab]

Macgregors usually in the bag, but have been trying some more forgiving sets of late. Havent scored any better! So not sure what that says really??

Having one less club into most greens is nice, but i really like my macs so torn!

Also have a J33 CB/MB set i could make up but the XTD forged seem to be a bit of that anyway so overkill really.

If you like the look / feel, then go for it!

http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u553/matt40071/image-3_zps5baa8d5a.jpeg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/matt40071/media/image-3_zps5baa8d5a.jpeg.html)

[Jazz18]

Macgregors usually in the bag, but have been trying some more forgiving sets of late. Havent scored any better! So not sure what that says really??

Having one less club into most greens is nice, but i really like my macs so torn!

Also have a J33 CB/MB set i could make up but the XTD forged seem to be a bit of that anyway so overkill really.

If you like the look / feel, then go for it!

http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u553/matt40071/image-3_zps5baa8d5a.jpeg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/matt40071/media/image-3_zps5baa8d5a.jpeg.html)

OMG they look friggin beautiful! I've got a set of Cobra Greg Norman signature blades that looks suspiciously like those ;)
Got a set of Macgregor Tourney PMB's in the cupboard too that I might have to dust off soon as well.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Yeah they are special order 985's. Japan possibly. Does this mean I play JDM? Haha

[Jazz18]

Yeah they are special order 985's. Japan possibly. Does this mean I play JDM? Haha

Doesn't matter when they look that nice :)

[BUSHY]

Apex 99's are the bizz man. That's what I'm playing at the moment. Would love a back up set. If you have a line on a set and don't pull the trigger, please let me know.

Trigger pulled. 2-E plus an AW and SW.

[Hutchy]

I need to trial my new Super Peening Blues once they arrive. Adding new heads to the equation would just make things too confusing.

Now I am confused...

They wouldn't be new though if you owned them already?

[Jazz18]

Trigger pulled. 2-E plus an AW and SW.

Nice, pics please.

[supo67]

honma tw 717m
deelish

[Johnny Canuck]

Now I am confused...

They wouldn't be new though if you owned them already?

I've already stuffed up and brought out an old school set giving me a second option on heads. I don't need a third!

[Jazz18]

honma tw 717m
deelish

Nice! Some guys are playing some great blades out there!

[aussieashley]

Trigger pulled. 2-E plus an AW and SW.

Yikes, 2 iron. I had the 99 Hogans 3-P with a gap wedge too. The 3 and 4 iron were very hard work if you weren't hitting them sweet.

[Jazz18]

honma tw 717m
deelish

I'm curious, what made you choose the 717 over the 727?

[Jazz18]

Yikes, 2 iron. I had the 99 Hogans 3-P with a gap wedge too. The 3 and 4 iron were very hard work if you weren't hitting them sweet.

I would love to have the 2 iron. Not to hit it, but just have it as part of the set, even if it stayed in the cupboard and never got used!

[BUSHY]

Yikes, 2 iron. I had the 99 Hogans 3-P with a gap wedge too. The 3 and 4 iron were very hard work if you weren't hitting them sweet.

I know, but I just enjoy my golf more using blades wether I'm hacking it or puring it.

I've had a few different sets and have always wanted the 99 Apex's and now I've found a pretty much mint set (I think).
The 2 iron might not even get any play, but then again I love my 3 iron that much that it probably will.

[BUSHY]

Nice, pics please.

Just got this from the seller before the courier arrived.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/41eacbab65d91a8ce7ef39ec05601813.jpg

[Jazz18]

Just got this from the seller before the courier arrived.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/41eacbab65d91a8ce7ef39ec05601813.jpg

Nice Bushy. They look really schmick. I agree with you. I'm having much more fun now that I've put my Hogans back in the bag. I don't care if I'm chopping it or flushing it. Nice pick up.

[990B Luva]

I've got VR TW bodes. Also have an Apex 94 1 Iron. Doesn't get used though.

[supo67]

errrr well actually i now have both.
got the 717m bec i liked the look of the basic head better, but then i ht hte pw in the 727m and it has slightyl ess ofsset and a o rounder shappe , so i got them as well.

playing both sets this wekend to see what i liek best.

the 717m with NS modus 125s are pretty hard to beat tho.
they are great in wind.
i think i like the 727m shape more actually but that remains to be seen tomorrow

[Jazz18]

errrr well actually i now have both.
got the 717m bec i liked the look of the basic head better, but then i ht hte pw in the 727m and it has slightyl ess ofsset and a o rounder shappe , so i got them as well.

playing both sets this wekend to see what i liek best.

the 717m with NS modus 125s are pretty hard to beat tho.
they are great in wind.
i think i like the 727m shape more actually but that remains to be seen tomorrow

Thanks Supo. Been eyeing Honma irons off lately and thought the blades looked lovely. Please give us more feedback in what your thoughts are. I for one would be very interested.

[meh]

I'm out of this thread. My swing fix was obviously a false dawn. I hate hitting irons :(

[sms316]

I'm very curious to know what the handicaps are of all these people using blades.

[oldracer]

I'm very curious to know what the handicaps are of all these people using blades.17

[Matt 3 Jab]

23

[BUSHY]

9

[sms316]

17
23
9:lol: Sounds sensible.

[BUSHY]

:lol: Sounds sensible.

As per usual some one wants to tell me what iron I should use based on an arbitrary number.

[sms316]

As per usual some one wants to tell me what iron I should use based on an arbitrary number.Yeah I know. You are good enough for blades but can't putt. ;)

[Oldplayer]

Playing a combo set of mp4, mp54 atm. Mp4 short irons are some of the best blades I have hit, and I've hit plenty. Playing off 3/4 most of the time.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Yeah I know. You are good enough for blades but can't putt. ;)

It's like you know me

[BUSHY]

Yeah I know. You are good enough for blades but can't putt. ;)

I don't need to make excuses. I play em because I can and I want to.

[sms316]

I don't need to make excuses. I play em because I can and I want to. Heaven forbid you might actually have lower scores.

[Oldplayer]

I don't need to make excuses. I play em because I can and I want to.
Good for you. Life is too short. Play what you want. Lower scores are mainly about the driver and short game anyway.

[BUSHY]

Heaven forbid you might actually have lower scores.

I've already proven I won't. Hence why I play them.

[Oldplayer]

Heaven forbid you might actually have lower scores.
If you want a blades vs cb debate just go to WRX. There are a hundred threads and 10's of thousands of posts on the subject and there is still no answer or right or wrong arrived at.

[sms316]

If you want a blades vs cb debate just go to WRX. There are a hundred threads and 10's of thousands of posts on the subject and there is still no answer or right or wrong arrived at. No thanks.

[BUSHY]

No thanks.

Yet you feel compelled to take the piss.

[Oldplayer]

No thanks.
I agree! Blades vs cb is a waste of time. Every player should just play what they want, fullstop. I've got everything from G25's to oldschool blades and enjoy them all and play them all, as the mood takes me.

[sms316]

Yet you feel compelled to take the piss.10 pages of thread by WRX gear sluts proves nothing.

[Hatchman]

I don't subscribe to higher handicap players being able to play off a lower hcp using GI's over blades.
You'll play your best when your comfortable with whatever your using.

[JADO75]

I'm all for blades, if that's what people want to play it's none of my business. I only use mine mainly during summer or if I feel like a change but I'd rather use my AP2's that can do what a blade does yet offers me way more forgiveness. I get the whole I love looking down at a blade, I love a thin top line & while I don't agree 100% with SMS, I do believe there are plenty out there playing blades that would shoot better scores if they used a cavity.

[timah!]

I guess it depends why you play golf doesn't it?

[Jazz18]

It depends on your miss. I know for sure that I can score just as well with a cavity iron compared to a blade. While I don't always hit the centre, it is face direction that is the cause of most of my misses or fat shots. I don't care if I had G30's in the bag, if the face of my club is well left of target, or well right at impact or if I hit it fat, even G30's are not going to save the shot. Why do you care what others are playing SMS?

[Matt 3 Jab]

I played my set of blades today, my misses are more directional than contact so for me i dont think it makes much of a difference.

Ive had good and bad scores with both.

Whatever suits the eye really

[oldracer]

wrote a big diatribe and decided to save it suffice to say I like what I hit, it satisfies me

[sms316]

Why do you care what others are playing SMS?Because it disappoints me when people deliberately do something that impedes their scoring ability.

[oldracer]

Because it disappoints me when people deliberately do something that impedes their scoring ability.you should probably check in with Gotitatlast, I'm sure he's got a view on this as well

[oldracer]

Because it disappoints me when people deliberately do something that impedes their scoring ability.and certainly don't be disappointed for me, I'm a big boy and can look after my own scoring

[oldracer]

Bushy, you're a big boy and can sort it out for yourself hey??????

[BUSHY]

Bushy, you're a big boy and can sort it our for yourself hey??????

Sure can mate

;)

[990B Luva]

I'm very curious to know what the handicaps are of all these people using blades. Was off 7 when I last played. I have had a few rounds where I've gone 2-4 under, but it's a mental block that gets me.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'm very curious to know what the handicaps are of all these people using blades.

I have always wondered the same about JDM players.

I asked Hutchy what he played off but I didn't get a straight answer. Only a range of scores.

[Jazz18]

Hey Supo, how did you go with e 717m and the 727m's? Curious to hear your thoughts? Also, is anyone bagging Wilson blades something else a little less common? Anyone looking to update their set to something new that's available or coming out soon. I'm looking forward to seeing the new MP5's. MP25's could be nice to combo with the MP5's in a 4 and 5 iron maybe.

[Tongueboy]

Got a set of kzg revolutions if anyone is into blades and Jap gear?

[Coldtopper]

I don't gaf what anyone plays. I use the best sticks I can find and cost is irrelevant just happens that my current gamers are Epon blades

[coalesce]

Just a note to all to keep it civil please

[Johnny Canuck]

I don't gaf what anyone plays. I use the best sticks I can find and cost is irrelevant just happens that my current gamers are Epon blades

You've got the game for blades

[sms316]

Just a note to all to keep it civil please Thank you for taking offence on my behalf (not that I was offended).

[razaar]

Because it disappoints me when people deliberately do something that impedes their scoring ability.This brought a smile to the dial.☺

[Johnny Canuck]

This brought a smile to the dial.[emoji5]

Me too. Self-handicapping at its finest.

[LeftyHoges]

Me too. Self-handicapping at its finest.

You would know... :wink:

[Johnny Canuck]

You would know... :wink:

Straight cavity backs for me.

[LeftyHoges]

Straight cavity backs for me.

I mean the self-handicapping at its finest. Not club related. :mrgreen:

[Johnny Canuck]

I mean the self-handicapping at its finest. Not club related. :mrgreen:

I have been on a mission to keep the cap down.

If I end up on 5 come champs time, I thiNK it would be due to hitting a rough patch and nothing else.

[thecollective]

I used blades when I was 10.....

coz that's all my dad had in the shed

Does that make me a hero = No, did that impede my scoring ability = probably not, did I care at the time = No, Do I care now = No

The vast majority of golf comes down to the individual - not the club of choice

TC

[LeftyHoges]

I have been on a mission to keep the cap down.

If I end up on 5 come champs time, I thiNK it would be due to hitting a rough patch and nothing else.

Bagged!

How convenient... :)

[Lagerlover]

Hitting my current CB3s well at the moment, tried a couple of blades on the range and jarred the crap out of my hands.

[Billch]

Playing my 695mb's and nothing has looked like knocking them out

[razaar]

Hitting my current CB3s well at the moment, tried a couple of blades on the range and jarred the crap out of my hands.L shafts would help your blade quest, lager.

[Lagerlover]

No doubt they would Ray.....hands still ringing.

[Daves]

Blade hosels vs Cavity Back hosels, is there a difference?

[Lagerlover]

Wouldn't know mate...

[Jazz18]

No, I've found the centre of both!

[razaar]

Blade hosels vs Cavity Back hosels, is there a difference?Early blades used pins to secure the head to the shaft. These heads tended to be longer in the hosel which moved the COG towards the hosel. A strike on the centre of the face with these heads was away from the sweetspot and opened the clubface on impact. Ping created clubs during the 60's to make golf easier for the masses.

[Lagerlover]

Told ya.

[Daves]

Wouldn't know mate...

Jarred your hands too much to tell then?... Ah, that is what you said!, silly me:wink:

[Matt 3 Jab]

Had my best round with the old macs back in the bag. Was prob more the swing, but dont think cavities would have made me shoot any better.

I like the look of blades, simples.

Going with a set of XTD forged thursday, seem to be a cavity / muscle thing with the look of blades and cavity forgiveness. We will see

Edit: best round in a while

[Yossarian]

Are you seriously off 23?

[Matt 3 Jab]

No, was more a point of play whatever you like regardless of handicap if it makes you happy.

Off 5

[Johnny Canuck]

No, was more a point of play whatever you like regardless of handicap if it makes you happy.

Off 5

But shouldn't you use equipment suited to playing your best possible golf, the majority of the time?

[Matt 3 Jab]

Depends WHY you play golf.

I really enjoy trying new equipment. Some people like getting out of the house and having 100, some love shooting their best score ever.

If it's a career then yes, play what earns most $$$, if not, then whatever you get out of golf, do that. If that's playing blades off 23, and you love it, then go for it.

Only an opinion

[Daves]

But shouldn't you use equipment suited to playing your best possible golf, the majority of the time?

That is quite funny, given most on this forum have a propensity to avoid getting fit at all costs, how would you/we know what are the best clubs to use?

[Johnny Canuck]

That is quite funny, given most on this forum have a propensity to avoid getting fit at all costs, how would you/we know what are the best clubs to use?

Trial and error and when something works, go with it.

There is the fun aspect of trying new things, but there is also the idiocy of someone who plays off 23 stating that they like to play blades because they feel so good when they pure one iron every dozen rounds.

I can't imagine how much fun it much be hitting all those shots in between that just don't make the target.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Trial and error and when something works, go with it.

There is the fun aspect of trying new things, but there is also the idiocy of someone who plays off 23 stating that they like to play blades because they feel so good when they pure one iron every dozen rounds.

I can't imagine how much fun it much be hitting all those shots in between that just don't make the target.

For someone who wants to score their best, yes I agree with your statement

For someone who doesn't care what they shoot, and lives for that one pure shot every 12 rounds, then happy days for them.

[Johnny Canuck]

For someone who wants to score their best, yes I agree with your statement

For someone who doesn't care what they shoot, and lives for that one pure shot every 12 rounds, then happy days for them.

I see some of these guys on course with blades who "don't care what they shoot" then bitch and complain the entire way around when they are constantly short and right of their target.

The only time that they don't care is in between rounds when they are trying to justify why they are so shit at golf.

Self handicapping at its finest.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Well then they are a different kettle of fish all together. They obviously care about the score

[dazza99]

I care about my score. And I care about the clubs I'm using.

I can hit the ball all over the place even with the most forgiving SGI clubs around. Don't need blades to do that :)

But I am on the look out all the time for a nice, cheap set of forged blades to a) look nice in the bag, b) be a talking point and c) give me that same pleasure of the pure hit with players forged clubs. I would also like to test that theory that blades can actually help you play better by "making" you find the center more often. Hmmmm...

If it mattered to me what others thought about the way I played and my score I'd have given the game up eons ago. I'm a 20-capper.

btw - feel free to throw me your unwanted forged Mizzy MP-somethings, or BH Apex's to help in my quest ;)

[Johnny Canuck]

Well then they are a different kettle of fish all together. They obviously care about the score

Does hitting a pure shot with a blade feel any better than puring one with a cavity back?

[Eca]

"Some" cavity can feel like a skillet hitting a nail compared to a hammer.

[razaar]

"Some" cavity can feel like a skillet hitting a nail compared to a hammer.They sure can. The weird thing is in the result. It can be not that far off a great result. The contact may not feel good but we don't have to let on that technology helped us out.

[Johnny Canuck]

They sure can. The weird thing is in the result. It can be not that far off a great result. The contact may not feel good but we don't have to let on that technology helped us out.

Yep.

But they can also feel very good when you hit the sweet spot as well. The "skillet" will just allow them to hit more acceptable shots

[oldracer]

But shouldn't you use equipment suited to playing your best possible golf, the majority of the time?had a re-fit about 6 weeks ago with a set of players irons CB501, cb's J40 and my MB001's, I got better carry, total distance, smash factor, spin rate etc with the MB's, when playing my miss is short with the mb's whereas it was right or further right with the others. Yesterday I had 163 to the pin uphill, ended up finishing about 172 with a 6iron, so distance is generally not an issue. My thoughts are that ball striking is mechanical not the iron blob at the end of the pole, if the swing/face to path etc is flawed, you could have a bazooka, it's not going to help, past that, scoring for me is short game short game short game. For those that believe mid to high cappers should use GI irons, what qualifies you to make that determination, your single digit cap?? or stuff you've read? or the general belief that choppers can't use blades. I've been to 3 coaches and not one of them has told me that my players irons or blades are not for me so I'll roll with that, maybe they were being kind. I like what I swing, can afford what I swing and they make me happy and want to use them tomorrow.

[Johnny Canuck]

had a re-fit about 6 weeks ago with a set of players irons CB501, cb's J40 and my MB001's, I got better carry, total distance, smash factor, spin rate etc with the MB's, when playing my miss is short with the mb's whereas it was right or further right with the others. Yesterday I had 163 to the pin uphill, ended up finishing about 172 with a 6iron, so distance is generally not an issue. My thoughts are that ball striking is mechanical not the iron blob at the end of the pole, if the swing/face to path etc is flawed, you could have a bazooka, it's not going to help, past that, scoring for me is short game short game short game. For those that believe mid to high cappers should use GI irons, what qualifies you to make that determination, your single digit cap?? or stuff you've read? or the general belief that choppers can't use blades. I've been to 3 coaches and not one of them has told me that my players irons or blades are not for me so I'll roll with that, maybe they were being kind. I like what I swing, can afford what I swing and they make me happy and want to use them tomorrow.

Why do the majority of pros not use blades?

If you can hit the ball well with them, great. I just don't buy the argument that people use blades because they enjoy the game that much more and don't care about their score.

Why play comp golf if you don't care how you end up? You might as well just be a social golfer. This isn't directed at you, Racer; this is a general question.

[razaar]

Why do the majority of pros not use blades?

If you can hit the ball well with them, great. I just don't buy the argument that people use blades because they enjoy the game that much more and don't care about their score.

Why play comp golf if you don't care how you end up? You might as well just be a social golfer. This isn't directed at you, Racer; this is a general question.Hard to argue with this JC. From a club perspective, in modern times the most successful iron in Majors is the TM Tour Burners, which were in the bags of four different Major winners. These were cavity blades. Spieth is the pin up boy of this year's Majors and he plays AP2's. Same as Cam Smith who is one of the best ball strikers I know. The point that most overlook is that nobody hits that pin sized sweetspot on the face more than a handful of times during a round of golf.

[BUSHY]

Why do the majority of pros not use blades?

If you can hit the ball well with them, great. I just don't buy the argument that people use blades because they enjoy the game that much more and don't care about their score.

Why play comp golf if you don't care how you end up? You might as well just be a social golfer. This isn't directed at you, Racer; this is a general question.

JC, I care about my score, I seriously want to be as good as I possibly can. I have been through this discussion many MANY times and I even went back to a GI iron in order to gain forgiveness. The problem was I didn't score any better than before and played worse to the point where I ended up anchored.

In the past I made a switch to MB's as a kind of experimental exercise to see if I could indeed improve my ball striking as countless people have suggested is possible. In that time I dropped my handicap from around 17-19 down to the high 4's. Are blades solely responsible? Probably not, it would have been a combination of things.

However I have played ALL of my best rounds and best stretches of golf using what I would term 'traditional' irons. Compact head, low offset, narrow sole and thin top line. It's what I like to see. I completely understand the argument as to why make things harder in an already difficult game but in my case it is the look at address that rules out anything generally classed as GI. I simply don't like it.

In saying that, I'm not a 'blade snob'. I'll play whatever works best. The point is, for me, right now, it's blades.

[Johnny Canuck]

JC, I care about my score, I seriously want to be as good as I possibly can. I have been through this discussion many MANY times and I even went back to a GI iron in order to gain forgiveness. The problem was I didn't score any better than before and played worse to the point where I ended up anchored.

In the past I made a switch to MB's as a kind of experimental exercise to see if I could indeed improve my ball striking as countless people have suggested is possible. In that time I dropped my handicap from around 17-19 down to the high 4's. Are blades solely responsible? Probably not, it would have been a combination of things.

However I have played ALL of my best rounds and best stretches of golf using what I would term 'traditional' irons. Compact head, low offset, narrow sole and thin top line. It's what I like to see. I completely understand the argument as to why make things harder in an already difficult game but in my case it is the look at address that rules out anything generally classed as GI. I simply don't like it.

In saying that, I'm not a 'blade snob'. I'll play whatever works best. The point is, for me, right now, it's blades.

I can't and won't argue with that logic. If the results show you shoot better with blades, go for it.

It's the "I play for fun, don't care about my score but I use blades and love it when I flush one every 5 rounds" mindset that I really struggle to comprehend.

[sms316]

This is like asking Stevie Wonder why he chose the shirt he is wearing today.

[BUSHY]

I can't and won't argue with that logic. If the results show you shoot better with blades, go for it.

It's the "I play for fun, don't care about my score but I use blades and love it when I flush one every 5 rounds" mindset that I really struggle to comprehend.

Yeah, but hey, it's their game. Who am I to judge?

If I could play better with G30's, I would.

[Johnny Canuck]

This is like asking Stevie Wonder why he chose the shirt he is wearing today.

The "play for fun" argument is proudly supported by adults that were happy receiving participation ribbons at sport carnivals when they were young.

[Lagerlover]

I don't play for fun.

In fact, I've got no idea why I play..

[sms316]

I don't play for fun.In fact, I've got no idea why I play.. You play for the fun of others.

[3Puttpete]

Nope. That's not it

[Lagerlover]

Nope. That's not it You pricks should be paying my green fees...

[990B Luva]

I'd play cavity backs over blades if I could find a set I felt completely comfortable looking down at. Butter knife thin top line and minimal offset and I'd be set. That's why I play Blades over CB's.

[990B Luva]

I'd play cavity backs over blades if I could find a set I felt completely comfortable looking down at. Butter knife thin top line and minimal offset and I'd be set. That's why I play Blades over CB's.

[razaar]

I'd play cavity backs over blades if I could find a set I felt completely comfortable looking down at. Butter knife thin top line and minimal offset and I'd be set. That's why I play Blades over CB's.Golf gets in our heads. Personally I can't tell the difference at address between some cavity blades and blades. Not sure what a thin top line does for a player. To me it screams potential problems of a strike above the sweet spot. Another is what exactly is a player doing looking at the top line? If a player waggles in his routine is he looking at the clubface or that spot on the ball or something else?

[LarryLong]

Golf gets in our heads. Personally I can't tell the difference at address between some cavity blades and blades. Not sure what a thin top line does for a player. To me it screams potential problems of a strike above the sweet spot. Another is what exactly is a player doing looking at the top line? If a player waggles in his routine is he looking at the clubface or that spot on the ball or something else?

This has always been something I struggle to comprehend. I don't see why looking down at a big indicator that your club is going to be cruel to you if you screw up is a comforting thing for many golfers. I guess it's just familiarity, which counts for something.

Offset I can understand. I still think my clubs look a bit weird when I'm lining them up, but I know what it means and I don't worry about it.

[Daves]

Actually, if you watch enough Wishon videos, you will hear him say that the player's preference for look at address is a very important individual fitting criteria that they try to match within reason. His reasoning is that is an important aspect of confidence in playing the shot for many.

[LarryLong]

Actually, if you watch enough Wishon videos, you will hear him say that the player's preference for look at address is a very important individual fitting criteria that they try to match within reason. His reasoning is that is an important aspect of confidence in playing the shot for many.

I don't disagree with the premise, but I don't understand how a thin top line inspires confidence? It is a reminder that your club is probably harder to hit.

Confidence should really come from past results with a club, not from what you see when you look down at it. I guess many people just haven't played much golf with anything else, so an unfamiliar look makes them uneasy.

I reckon Wishon just says that for the sales. :p

[sms316]

I find that where the ball goes is substantially more important than what the club looks like.

Random idea.

[990B Luva]

I find that where the ball goes is substantially more important than what the club looks like.Random idea. Looking at the wear on my irons, I don't think where it comes off the face is any issue for me. I will however admit that I have mental issues, and swing faults that mean I generally score shit, whilst striking the ball well.

[BUSHY]

I don't disagree with the premise, but I don't understand how a thin top line inspires confidence? It is a reminder that your club is probably harder to hit.

Confidence should really come from past results with a club, not from what you see when you look down at it. I guess many people just haven't played much golf with anything else, so an unfamiliar look makes them uneasy.

I reckon Wishon just says that for the sales. :p

It's probably a comfort/familiarity thing which then translates to confidence.

I don't look at a thin top line and say "Oh gee there's not much help there". On the contrary I don't even think about it.

[thatguy]

Actually, if you watch enough Wishon videos, you will hear him say that the player's preference for look at address is a very important individual fitting criteria that they try to match within reason. His reasoning is that is an important aspect of confidence in playing the shot for many.

Agree that confidence at address is misunderstood and underated. As the sports phsyc fraternity constantly say about putting for the vast majority a confident swing with the right club will yield better results than an indecisive swing with the "perfectly fitted" club 99 times out of 100.

I used to do a lot of clubmaking and from my experience I've found a quick and dirty "cut and glue" club that just looks "right" often equalled or outperformed something I'd labour over freq matching, FLO'ing and MOI'ing ... again no real data to back this up other than my results.

I'd say if it looks good, feels good and you have confidence sanding over in ... go with it ! YMMV

[Johnny Canuck]

Thin topline is just another catchphrase that no one would ever say if others didn't mention it.

Why aren't all these thin topline players hitting small headed drivers instead of 430 to 460cc beasts?

[supo67]

"Hey Supo, how did you go with e 717m and the 727m's? Curious to hear your thoughts? Also, is anyone bagging Wilson blades something else a little less common? Anyone looking to update their set to something new that's available or coming out soon. I'm looking forward to seeing the new MP5's. MP25's could be nice to combo with the MP5's in a 4 and 5 iron maybe."

well ive played both enough now to get them properly wired , hit both with the same shaft DGs200 stock, even the same grips so i cant get any more definitive i spose.

right, so the 717m is the cleaner looking head i think, absolutely no nonsense perfect looking blade kinda like the tourtsage 905 but with much nice feel , The feel is just magnificent. weight is great flight isnt high, isnt low its spot on.
love them.

then i hit the 727m a cpl of times....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, well these are a bit chunkier , the body is fuller, not much, but yes its there, slightly fuller feel as well , they reminds me of the miuraism more acutally.
the biggest change tho is the slightly more rounded/ thicker shaped head and less offset. not that the 717m has much!!!
but the 727 is def less, the pw is the dead giveaway. the 727 migh be ever so slighty bigger hard to say but it feel it is its def thicker. Now i find fault in everything that is even the slightest bit offset or rather "goosenecked", i just cant stand it , hence why i ousted the isms, they were grating on me (9 and pw) . i know im fkkd up ,but life deals u lifes cards, i was dealt a werido gooseneck hating gene.
stone me.

anyway the 727m has NONE.
i mean nada, nish ,zippo, zilch, its heaven for a geek blade guy
its the best looking blade ive ever seen , even less than the masda which i didnt think possible. Now this isnt meant to say that the others are big, fk no, its almost irrleveant, but when uve seen and played as many differnt heads here as i have , these tiny thngs do stand out and this is the differnce that has me 100% sold on them,

i mean im all in.


I think the new model which is slightly fuller is much better on thicker grass ,i play in humid lush grass most weekend where u can easily take divots the size of plattypi(?), the grass here grows just by looking at it so ur always palying on carpet , hence more bounce and a slighty thicker clus is a factor u cant ignor! so here the 727 is the winner.,
BUT t the 717 i found better suited on the oz style grass where its much tighter and much harder , and u palying on kaik a fk load more than i do. o nkaik the 717 is heaven, the slightly less meat in the head makes for crisper stikes nad picking the ball easier and i think more consistant ball striking .
the feel of both is very dense soft. like miura . not epon. its fantastic in blades.
these are workable as u like. more so the 717 and they power thru wind beautifully and so far i think these are prob the best irons ive ever hit for taking dead aim.
the PW esp in the 727m is out of this world.

these and the PRGR idbl are the clubs with the least offest/goosenecklessness irons ive played and prob why iv got a few sets shafted up. .
if thast ur thing, absolutely wholeheatebdly get a set. im sure ull be pretty darn impressed, since HONMA took all thier manufacturing back form china ,they have really made massive ground over here, they are back to pretty much one of the top spots in terms of brand repsect, in fact right now i think they cud be back at he very top.
thier whole line is superb
my builder has worked on 3 sets of mine now and is mighty impreseed by thier tolerences and specs, somethng he said was lost for a few years when they went made elsewhere.
well it seems they are back again .

not easy to get a demo of these ,but if one pops up seriously have a go at it.
my mate bought he middle ground ones semi cavity muscles not sure of thier miniker and hes not bought a new set in 5 years he was playing epon 302 , he says these are every bit as nice if not nicer and they are a more refined look .
cant say more i guess.
anyway if u get a chance, give em a go.
they are really bloody good bats .

[Daves]

Firstly, let's get the the terminology right. When most refer to using blades here, they are talking about Muscle Backs, not blades. There are very few true blades available these days. You basically need to go to, heaven forbid, the JDM market!, or the Components market to buy true blades these days. I have 2 sets in my collection, one is a 1960s set of MacGregors, the other a component set with almost no offset, and the thinnest toplines and soles you have ever seen! And absolutely not an ounce of forgiveness!

Secondly, thank you to all those thoughtful individuals that are "suggesting" what clubs I, and others, should use to improve our golf, but you can all go and get F'd! I will use what I want, which I do, and I don't give a fig what you think!. I am pretty confident I have more sets of clubs than anyone else here, and I have used them all extensively, and I have the results to tell me that club forgiveness, within reason, has absolutely no impact on my results. Do I use blades? not often, but I often use MBs, and I know that I score just as well with them, if not better, than I do with shovels. Most of my lowest rounds have been with MBs, that is reality.

As those that follow my bag lotto thread know, these days I play with a different set of clubs every round. Well different Drivers, Woods, Hybrids and Irons, and to some extent Putters. My Wedges are the only area of the bag I am reluctant to change often. I have heaps of stats and scores under my belt and can confidently say that on average it makes F'all difference what is in my bag!!! I can use and adapt to them all, and score well, if I am swinging OK! I have a set of absolute shovels I recently reported on, that I would be lucky to hit the side of a barn with them! They are my length and SW, but the shafts are all wrong, and they just do not work for me. To me fit is far more important than type of clubs. Fit and confidence in the clubs in your hand are what really matters.

Does that mean that I boast about using blades?, or rave about the feel etc?, I hope I don't!?, that would be a wank! But no more of a wank than those that seem to think they can impose their views on me and others about what clubs I should use. Seriously!, who died and made you boss! They can go and stick there heads up a dead bears bum as far as I am concerned!

[timah!]

Firstly, let's get the the terminology right. When most refer to using blades here, they are talking about Muscle Backs, not blades. There are very few true blades available these days. You basically need to go to, heaven forbid, the JDM market!, or the Components market to buy true blades these days. I have 2 sets in my collection, one is a 1960s set of MacGregors, the other a component set with almost no offset, and the thinnest toplines and soles you have ever seen! And absolutely not an ounce of forgiveness!

Secondly, thank you to all those thoughtful individuals that are "suggesting" what clubs I, and others, should use to improve our golf, but you can all go and get F'd! I will use what I want, which I do, and I don't give a fig what you think!. I am pretty confident I have more sets of clubs than anyone else here, and I have used them all extensively, and I have the results to tell me that club forgiveness, within reason, has absolutely no impact on my results. Do I use blades? not often, but I often use MBs, and I know that I score just as well with them, if not better, than I do with shovels. Most of my lowest rounds have been with MBs, that is reality.

As those that follow my bag lotto thread know, these days I play with a different set of clubs every round. Well different Drivers, Woods, Hybrids and Irons, and to some extent Putters. My Wedges are the only area of the bag I am reluctant to change often. I have heaps of stats and scores under my belt and can confidently say that on average it makes F'all difference what is in my bag!!! I can use and adapt to them all, and score well, if I am swinging OK! I have a set of absolute shovels I recently reported on, that I would be lucky to hit the side of a barn with them! They are my length and SW, but the shafts are all wrong, and they just do not work for me. To me fit is far more important than type of clubs. Fit and confidence in the clubs in your hand are what really matters.

Does that mean that I boast about using blades?, or rave about the feel etc?, I hope I don't!?, that would be a wank! But no more of a wank than those that seem to think they can impose their views on me and others about what clubs I should use. Seriously!, who died and made you boss! They can go and stick there heads up a dead bears bum as far as I am concerned!


Mhmmmmm, Sing it Daves!

[Johnny Canuck]

Wow. Who said you should play game improvement clubs?

You're a pretty handy golfer, aren't you Daves? You should be able to hit anything fit properly.

[hardboiled]

Firstly, let's get the the terminology right. When most refer to using blades here, they are talking about Muscle Backs....

I concur.. I love my muscles backs.. 37011

[kiwitown]

Very nice mate

[Bitter]

I concur.. I love my muscles backs.. 37011

That's almost classed as Golf Porn isn't it?

[Coldtopper]

Cool post Daves.

[Coldtopper]

I concur.. I love my muscles backs.. 37011 these 13's are ridiculously easy to hit . Great sticks btw

[Oldplayer]

Firstly, let's get the the terminology right. When most refer to using blades here, they are talking about Muscle Backs, not blades. There are very few true blades available these days. You basically need to go to, heaven forbid, the JDM market!, or the Components market to buy true blades these days. I have 2 sets in my collection, one is a 1960s set of MacGregors, the other a component set with almost no offset, and the thinnest toplines and soles you have ever seen! And absolutely not an ounce of forgiveness!

Secondly, thank you to all those thoughtful individuals that are "suggesting" what clubs I, and others, should use to improve our golf, but you can all go and get F'd! I will use what I want, which I do, and I don't give a fig what you think!. I am pretty confident I have more sets of clubs than anyone else here, and I have used them all extensively, and I have the results to tell me that club forgiveness, within reason, has absolutely no impact on my results. Do I use blades? not often, but I often use MBs, and I know that I score just as well with them, if not better, than I do with shovels. Most of my lowest rounds have been with MBs, that is reality.

As those that follow my bag lotto thread know, these days I play with a different set of clubs every round. Well different Drivers, Woods, Hybrids and Irons, and to some extent Putters. My Wedges are the only area of the bag I am reluctant to change often. I have heaps of stats and scores under my belt and can confidently say that on average it makes F'all difference what is in my bag!!! I can use and adapt to them all, and score well, if I am swinging OK! I have a set of absolute shovels I recently reported on, that I would be lucky to hit the side of a barn with them! They are my length and SW, but the shafts are all wrong, and they just do not work for me. To me fit is far more important than type of clubs. Fit and confidence in the clubs in your hand are what really matters.

Does that mean that I boast about using blades?, or rave about the feel etc?, I hope I don't!?, that would be a wank! But no more of a wank than those that seem to think they can impose their views on me and others about what clubs I should use. Seriously!, who died and made you boss! They can go and stick there heads up a dead bears bum as far as I am concerned!
Nice post Dave.
Why don't you tell us what you really think :)
I'm the same as you. Have tons of sets of irons and play whatever takes my fancy from month to month. Scoring stays pretty much the same. Rest of the bag hardly ever changes.

[virge666]

Nice read.

Personally. I find it easier to control distance with a player cavity.

I find it easier to control height with my ancient Nike blades, but they are a lot harder to hit out of the rough and they lower the spin rate a bit too much on mishits.

GI clubs just go too far and are too hard to control.

As for feel. I still don't understand it. The best answer I get from most people is the sound at impact.

[BUSHY]

Sound and feel correlate more than I originally thought.
I took the Hogans out yesterday and they definitely sound more muted to what the MP33's do but the feel is kind of similar. The flight on the other hand is a fair bit lower which is a good thing because I hit the ball very high.

[razaar]

Nice read.

Personally. I find it easier to control distance with a player cavity.

I find it easier to control height with my ancient Nike blades, but they are a lot harder to hit out of the rough and they lower the spin rate a bit too much on mishits.

GI clubs just go too far and are too hard to control.

As for feel. I still don't understand it. The best answer I get from most people is the sound at impact.Interesting point aout feel Virge. To me it is in the waggle and being able to feel the clubhead in a certain way during the swing. Most probably wouldn't relate to this, but I think that knowing what the clubface is doing during the swing is important.

[Jazz18]

Nice read.

Personally. I find it easier to control distance with a player cavity.

I find it easier to control height with my ancient Nike blades, but they are a lot harder to hit out of the rough and they lower the spin rate a bit too much on mishits.

GI clubs just go too far and are too hard to control.

As for feel. I still don't understand it. The best answer I get from most people is the sound at impact.

I agree Virge. I think sound has a a huge influence on the feel as well.

[dee cee]

I'm sure someone's done it, but can someone go hit some balls with ear plugs in or earphones with music on. Then see what club feels better. Then report back. I might try it next week.

[BeGo]

I am.

Mp 69. :)

[BUSHY]

I'm sure someone's done it, but can someone go hit some balls with ear plugs in or earphones with music on. Then see what club feels better. Then report back. I might try it next week.

I can tell you hitting with headphones on is a strange experience. For me at least.

[oldracer]

I'm sure someone's done it, but can someone go hit some balls with ear plugs in or earphones with music on. Then see what club feels better. Then report back. I might try it next week.see heaps of guys on the range with head fones in, not sure I could do it

[Jazz18]

I can tell you hitting with headphones on is a strange experience. For me at least.


see heaps of guys on the range with head fones in, not sure I could do it

I'm with you guys, it's weird having head phones in playing golf at all. I couldn't even do it practice putting.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'm with you guys, it's weird having head phones in playing golf at all. I couldn't even do it practice putting.

I do it all the time. Quite enjoyable.

[rick3003]

Want soft feel then play a soft ball

[benno_r]

Want soft feel then play a soft ball

Stop making sense.

[oldracer]

I do it all the time. Quite enjoyable.yeah but you're strange anyway :)

[kiwitown]

I agree Virge. I think sound has a a huge influence on the feel as well.

mate when I hit the 64"s sweet, there ain't no sound..

[razaar]

Not sure what good feel is when it registers after impact. It lets us know what may have happened in some aspects. I would have thought that feel which tells us what is happening is the ideal.
The really good players have this ability to feel what is happening.

[Jazz18]

Want soft feel then play a soft ball

They're too big. They won't fit in the hole

[Jazz18]

I do it all the time. Quite enjoyable.

Fair enough.

[Jazz18]

mate when I hit the 64"s sweet, there ain't no sound..

That's the way it should be :)

[990B Luva]

Thin topline is just another catchphrase that no one would ever say if others didn't mention it. Why aren't all these thin topline players hitting small headed drivers instead of 430 to 460cc beasts?I'd gladly go back and play a driver around the 300cc mark. Hell, I have a 975J I drag out occasionally. If I could get it set up right, it would probably be in my bag over the much bigger R1

[Hatchman]

Firstly, let's get the the terminology right. When most refer to using blades here, they are talking about Muscle Backs, not blades. There are very few true blades available these days. You basically need to go to, heaven forbid, the JDM market!, or the Components market to buy true blades these days. I have 2 sets in my collection, one is a 1960s set of MacGregors, the other a component set with almost no offset, and the thinnest toplines and soles you have ever seen! And absolutely not an ounce of forgiveness!

Secondly, thank you to all those thoughtful individuals that are "suggesting" what clubs I, and others, should use to improve our golf, but you can all go and get F'd! I will use what I want, which I do, and I don't give a fig what you think!. I am pretty confident I have more sets of clubs than anyone else here, and I have used them all extensively, and I have the results to tell me that club forgiveness, within reason, has absolutely no impact on my results. Do I use blades? not often, but I often use MBs, and I know that I score just as well with them, if not better, than I do with shovels. Most of my lowest rounds have been with MBs, that is reality.

As those that follow my bag lotto thread know, these days I play with a different set of clubs every round. Well different Drivers, Woods, Hybrids and Irons, and to some extent Putters. My Wedges are the only area of the bag I am reluctant to change often. I have heaps of stats and scores under my belt and can confidently say that on average it makes F'all difference what is in my bag!!! I can use and adapt to them all, and score well, if I am swinging OK! I have a set of absolute shovels I recently reported on, that I would be lucky to hit the side of a barn with them! They are my length and SW, but the shafts are all wrong, and they just do not work for me. To me fit is far more important than type of clubs. Fit and confidence in the clubs in your hand are what really matters.

Does that mean that I boast about using blades?, or rave about the feel etc?, I hope I don't!?, that would be a wank! But no more of a wank than those that seem to think they can impose their views on me and others about what clubs I should use. Seriously!, who died and made you boss! They can go and stick there heads up a dead bears bum as far as I am concerned!

Very well said Daves.
POTY

[Jazz18]

"Hey Supo, how did you go with e 717m and the 727m's? Curious to hear your thoughts? Also, is anyone bagging Wilson blades something else a little less common? Anyone looking to update their set to something new that's available or coming out soon. I'm looking forward to seeing the new MP5's. MP25's could be nice to combo with the MP5's in a 4 and 5 iron maybe."

well ive played both enough now to get them properly wired , hit both with the same shaft DGs200 stock, even the same grips so i cant get any more definitive i spose.

right, so the 717m is the cleaner looking head i think, absolutely no nonsense perfect looking blade kinda like the tourtsage 905 but with much nice feel , The feel is just magnificent. weight is great flight isnt high, isnt low its spot on.
love them.

then i hit the 727m a cpl of times....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, well these are a bit chunkier , the body is fuller, not much, but yes its there, slightly fuller feel as well , they reminds me of the miuraism more acutally.
the biggest change tho is the slightly more rounded/ thicker shaped head and less offset. not that the 717m has much!!!
but the 727 is def less, the pw is the dead giveaway. the 727 migh be ever so slighty bigger hard to say but it feel it is its def thicker. Now i find fault in everything that is even the slightest bit offset or rather "goosenecked", i just cant stand it , hence why i ousted the isms, they were grating on me (9 and pw) . i know im fkkd up ,but life deals u lifes cards, i was dealt a werido gooseneck hating gene.
stone me.

anyway the 727m has NONE.
i mean nada, nish ,zippo, zilch, its heaven for a geek blade guy
its the best looking blade ive ever seen , even less than the masda which i didnt think possible. Now this isnt meant to say that the others are big, fk no, its almost irrleveant, but when uve seen and played as many differnt heads here as i have , these tiny thngs do stand out and this is the differnce that has me 100% sold on them,

i mean im all in.


I think the new model which is slightly fuller is much better on thicker grass ,i play in humid lush grass most weekend where u can easily take divots the size of plattypi(?), the grass here grows just by looking at it so ur always palying on carpet , hence more bounce and a slighty thicker clus is a factor u cant ignor! so here the 727 is the winner.,
BUT t the 717 i found better suited on the oz style grass where its much tighter and much harder , and u palying on kaik a fk load more than i do. o nkaik the 717 is heaven, the slightly less meat in the head makes for crisper stikes nad picking the ball easier and i think more consistant ball striking .
the feel of both is very dense soft. like miura . not epon. its fantastic in blades.
these are workable as u like. more so the 717 and they power thru wind beautifully and so far i think these are prob the best irons ive ever hit for taking dead aim.
the PW esp in the 727m is out of this world.

these and the PRGR idbl are the clubs with the least offest/goosenecklessness irons ive played and prob why iv got a few sets shafted up. .
if thast ur thing, absolutely wholeheatebdly get a set. im sure ull be pretty darn impressed, since HONMA took all thier manufacturing back form china ,they have really made massive ground over here, they are back to pretty much one of the top spots in terms of brand repsect, in fact right now i think they cud be back at he very top.
thier whole line is superb
my builder has worked on 3 sets of mine now and is mighty impreseed by thier tolerences and specs, somethng he said was lost for a few years when they went made elsewhere.
well it seems they are back again .

not easy to get a demo of these ,but if one pops up seriously have a go at it.
my mate bought he middle ground ones semi cavity muscles not sure of thier miniker and hes not bought a new set in 5 years he was playing epon 302 , he says these are every bit as nice if not nicer and they are a more refined look .
cant say more i guess.
anyway if u get a chance, give em a go.
they are really bloody good bats .

Hey Supo. Thanks for all the feedback. I've been looking at some tourstage stuff and some onoffs but if I go blades again, think I might have to have a look around at the 727m. I like the look of them better than the 717m so I'm glad to hear that it's less offset etc etc. Cheers

[Harry Putter]

I agree with Daves post about 'true' blades - however I play a blade type of club, in so much that is has little offset, is smaller headed and does not have a rocker sole. Most of the Mizuno MP range could be considered blade type irons, as opposed to their MX, JPX or other.
My MP 53's are a lot easier to hit that they would appear but I still prefer my trusty MX 25 forged set that are over there in Oz, waiting to be taken out for a swing round Hilltop anytime soon.
I bought the 53's 'cos I love Mizuno irons and thought I had to at least own a set of 'players' irons. Have never quite had the results with them. :cry:

[virge666]

I would also like to add that playing a modern blade style club is a Hell of a lot easier with a modern ball.

A better swing was required in the olden days when the job was more about keeping the spin rates down.

The harder ball covers a lot of errors.

[Jazz18]

Not playing these but saw the 716MB at Drummonds Northmead today, MY GOD they're nice. Really old school shape and so shiny on the shelf. Pretty exy but damn they're pretty. Just gone almost full JDM in my bag but considering going all titleist when the SM6 wedges come out. The CB's are pretty sweet too.

[olddogmike]

Not playing these but saw the 716MB at Drummonds Northmead today, MY GOD they're nice. Really old school shape and so shiny on the shelf. Pretty exy but damn they're pretty. Just gone almost full JDM in my bag but considering going all titleist when the SM6 wedges come out. The CB's are pretty sweet too.
I am playing 714mb's with Tvd Vokeys, my other bag is all JDM

[Hutchy]

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[mrbluu]

I would also like to add that playing a modern blade style club is a Hell of a lot easier with a modern ball.

A better swing was required in the olden days.

So agree with this. Hit the old school blades Liptout bought along to Cabra Blades day and they didn't feel too different to any of the blades I've hit and the ball flight is about the same.