usdm vs jdm....thoughts

[Hutchy]

Just asking the question, is there a difference besides price.

Who here has strong opinions on this subject and why???

Cheers

[petethepilot]

Be aware Ozgolfers that Hutchy is legendary on TSG.

Welcome oh wise one!

Pete

[timah!]

The search function will probably answer your question for you.

There's certainly a difference in wank factor.

[backintheswing]

Wouldn't you have the answers already hutchy?

[LarryLong]

I almost posted something serious, but then I realised my opinions aren't particularly strong. All golf clubs are the same to me.

[Johnny Canuck]

JDM gear is perfect for people that are about 5'6" to 5'10".

[mrbluu]

I almost posted something serious, but then I realised my opinions aren't particularly strong. All golf clubs are the same to me.
They look the same to me too!!

[timah!]

They look the same to me too!!

Don't tell Adam Goodes that!

[D22marshall]

JDM gear is perfect for people that are about 5'6" to 5'10". Perfect fit??

[Hutchy]

Perfect fit??
First time I been an inch toooo long!

[D22marshall]

You will get use to it

[D22marshall]

Be very careful of Hutchy he has great jdm gear and it's cheap it's a vortex!!!Just to let you know hutch no selling in this post

[Hutchy]

So I keep hearing....isnt shorter better. Man I hope so.

[Hutchy]

Be very careful of Hutchy he has great jdm gear and it's cheap it's a vortex!!!Just to let you know hutch no selling in this post

**** you busted me deno, been searching for new outlets for all me gear....40 posts and 40 days...sounds like ramadan!!!

[Hutchy]

Be aware Ozgolfers that Hutchy is legendary on TSG.

Welcome oh wise one!

Pete

Cheers Pete, how are ya.

[Jazz18]

**** you busted me deno, been searching for new outlets for all me gear....40 posts and 40 days...sounds like ramadan!!!

Welcome aboard Hutchy. I'm looking forward to seeing what you've got. Your reputation precedes you.

[D22marshall]

All tall poppies can be cut down, enjoy the ride here brother

[Johnny Canuck]

**** you busted me deno, been searching for new outlets for all me gear....40 posts and 40 days...sounds like ramadan!!!

If Gemmell said this there would be tears around here.

Welcome Hutchy.

[Hutchy]

Wouldn't you have the answers already hutchy?
Nah....Last time I used USDM Mr RCH was designing callaway and JT was fiddling with BS instead of making themalllookthesame.

[Hutchy]

If Gemmell said this there would be tears around here.

Welcome Hutchy.

Cheers fella.

[oldracer]

JDM gear is perfect for people that are about 5'6" to 5'10".so that's why I can't hit the fookas

[hardboiled]

Woohoo welcome Hutchy :)

[Hutchy]

Gday Mr T

Something on the way, have the tracking will flick you an email.8)

[hardboiled]

Thanks bud..

[D22marshall]

All fun aside Hutchy is a top guy that gets access to nearly all jdm gear and always happy to help out.
Good to have another get TOOL on here

[benno_r]

Someone just get me cheap 2009 Yamaha irons, cheap and good, then I can be convinced JDM is truly the bomb.

[D22marshall]

Get your wedge shafts benno?

[benno_r]

Get your wedge shafts benno?

Not yet mate, 5:30 starts at work, and actually having to work have put that on hold a little.

[D22marshall]

The floors really need that much mopping??

[benno_r]

The floors really need that much mopping??

Those night shift bastages are filthy ****ers!

[Yossarian]

The smooth feeling of a jdm iron forged in the fires of mount fuji truly is better than anything the land of henry ford could produce.

[Daves]

Are we talking Golf? , Cars?, or Vending Machines here?

[Yossarian]

I was talking about my YKK zippers.

[sms316]

If the Japanese shit was any good, wouldn't it be used around the world?Even Asian porn isn't that flash. Too many hairy moots.

[Lagerlover]

I was talking about my YKK zippers.

I've got a Y2K zipper.

15 years and I'm still waiting for the Big Bang..

[Johnny Canuck]

I've got a Y2K zipper.

15 years and I'm still waiting for the Big Bang..

Do you have to pull it down hard right to unzip your pants?

[Yossarian]

I've got a Y2K zipper.

15 years and I'm still waiting for the Big Bang..

Ladies and gentlemen, Lagerlover. Please try the veal.

[Lagerlover]

Can't... vegetarian.

[oldracer]

well I think I had the perfect storm today, hit some very nice JDM forged goodness mated to USDM composite shaftage, awesome pairing to say the least

[3oneday]

Wouldn't you have the answers already hutchy?Thought the same, if he's already posting on TSG it's a subject that he should be well aware of.

For the record, Topflites aren't JDM, if they were they'd probably feel the same :lol:

[timah!]

Thought the same, if he's already posting on TSG it's a subject that he should be well aware of.

For the record, Topflites aren't JDM, if they were they'd probably feel the same :lol:

Cold and hard?

[3oneday]

Cold forged castings.

[D22marshall]

You boys just don't like change do you

[Yossarian]

Only when Il Papa gives it the ok.

[timah!]

You boys just don't like change do you

No, we are just sick of the wank that seems to come with every JDM discussion. We've even now got a legend on the forum. A freaking legend! Who knew?!

[3oneday]

Topflite are legendary.

[D22marshall]

No, we are just sick of the wank that seems to come with every JDM discussion. We've even now got a legend on the forum. A freaking legend! Who knew?! Are you the freaking legend?? Who would have thought

[timah!]

Are you the freaking legend?? Who would have thought

See post #2.

[backintheswing]

I wouldn't have thought buying and selling clubs makes you a legend.

Actually it probably does as Benno is a legend.

[D22marshall]

See post #2. I see what your trying to get at but pete is saying that he has been a long standing member on tsg and yes I asked him to check things out over here as I thought we could all get some deals off him.By the way he is a normal bloke like most of us and does not come with some high horse, down to earth give everyone a chance yeah?

[Hutchy]

Wow....great welcome boys....

What the hell goes on here.

Ask a question....get a smart ass comment...Gold!

Ok lets start again...will broach another subject for those who have no experience with JDM equipment.

Any one had any experience with puma, nike or adidas I have none, very keen for feedback.

Hope this is a bit easier?

[Johnny Canuck]

I see what your trying to get at but pete is saying that he has been a long standing member on tsg and yes I asked him to check things out over here as I thought we could all get some deals off him.By the way he is a normal bloke like most of us and does not come with some high horse, down to earth give everyone a chance yeah?

It's completely hypocritical not saying anything about his attempts to get around the rules that were so important last week.

Yes he will benefit the JDM players, but shouldn't you all have to wait the big 40/40 that Gemmell got beat down with?

Fwiw, I don't care either way. He comes with referrals, no one will get ripped off.

[D22marshall]

He's not trying to get around things he opened a topic to talk and get posts up and be known.

[Johnny Canuck]

Wow....great welcome boys....

What the hell goes on here.

Ask a question....get a smart ass comment...Gold!

Ok lets start again...will broach another subject for those who have no experience with JDM equipment.

Any one had any experience with puma, nike or adidas I have none, very keen for feedback.

Hope this is a bit easier?

Puma make nice clothes - golf shoes are average, Nike make good basketball gear, a magic ball that turns into a Noodle, mid flight, wide fitting golf shirts, and Run DMC made Adidas cool again, which was more than cancelled by Tourfit sporting nothing but Adidas. Adidas shoes also fit narrow in the toe.

[backintheswing]

He would have feedback on tsg anyway. Can't we use that for new members?

[Hutchy]

What goes on here....Ask a question get a smart ass comment....Golden boys!

Ok lets start again, Anyone had any experience with puma, adidas or nike golf, I have had none...Is that a bit easier?

Pull your head in, conversation takes a modicum of intelligence, if you cant comment and communicate like the big boys shut up. Dont want to hear it. Didn't come here for that.

We are all here for the same reason...We love the game and the gear...Right?

[Johnny Canuck]

He's not trying to get around things he opened a topic to talk and get posts up and be known.

But you guys policed this exact same thing to another new member just the other day.


After a driver shaft in the 60 gram range, in either stiff or extra stiff. If if has a flyz+ tip on it that would be a bonus and must play at least 45 in a driver. Tried my ad di 7x in it but made the driver feel to heavy and most of my other shafts are in a the 70 gram range.


Hi David, new here on the board, am long time member on TSG.

I have a Diamana S70 s flow band, is JDM after market, nice mirror nickel finish if you are interested.

Is untipped and plays 45.5 in most, condition is mint. no scratches or marks.

Cheers Hutchy.


Welcome aboard Hutchy quality guy here with quality gear


S70 s is low spin, mid high kick, Mid low launch and 65g, Forgot that part, too many coffees today.


Only a non ts 6.2s (black one), also have a cobra tip which i can supply loose (not home for 2 weeks to glue up though).



It seems you are promoting him when you should be saying "Welcome, as per forum rules, there are criteria to meet before you can sell. You shouldn't try and work around the system by posting in other threads."

[Johnny Canuck]

He would have feedback on tsg anyway. Can't we use that for new members?

I have always thought that to be a good policy. Would be up to the mods though.

[Hutchy]

Do I need to repeat myself again.

I appreciate the welcome from those who have, very much appreciated.

[Daves]

I think you have got your wires crossed JC, Dean was actually supporting Gemmel if my memory is correct.

[Hutchy]

Dean is not promoting me...he is promoting this site to me.

Mate, why would I promote this to any of my buddys the way some of these fellas are carrying on, its a golf forum so any topic about golf gear is valid and relevant.

Dean is a top bloke and said it would be good to have you on here Hutchy...Thats it!

[Yossarian]

This isn't 'Nam guys. There are rules.

[D22marshall]

I liked gemmel I think everyone jumped on him very quick. I got this same treatment when I joined also....
I know there are rules but boys take a bloody chill pill.
He will do his Te like anyone else NO f..... Special treatment!!
But hell I also told another guy about the forum today and now I am thinking what a great place to belong too. NOT

[Hutchy]

Puma make nice clothes - golf shoes are average, Nike make good basketball gear, a magic ball that turns into a Noodle, mid flight, wide fitting golf shirts, and Run DMC made Adidas cool again, which was more than cancelled by Tourfit sporting nothing but Adidas. Adidas shoes also fit narrow in the toe.

Nice;)

Dont Puma own cobra? I have small feet so stick to JDM shoes, cold stiched made with SUS tan leather....very smooth, ha.

[Hutchy]

This isn't 'Nam guys. There are rules.

Tell me about it brother...just about to take some vanilla and get suited up ;)

[Hatchman]

Welcome aboard Hutchy.
I for one would appreciate it if you did stick around and share your wealth of JDM knowledge and the odd bargain along the way.

My bag and regular gamers are mixture of JDM and USDM. I love my TRPX Driver with Oban Devo7tion shaft and RomaRo Wedges with Shimada K HW120 shafts. I also love my Titleist AP2 712 with DG S300 shafts and SeeMore Si3 Putter.
Taste in Golf Club models and manufactures is much like cars. There's some you like and some you don't and some you dislike just because of the brand or where they are made no matter how good the actual product might be.

[Hutchy]

I liked gemmel I think everyone jumped on him very quick. I got this same treatment when I joined also....
I know there are rules but boys take a bloody chill pill.
He will do his Te like anyone else NO f..... Special treatment!!
But hell I also told another guy about the forum today and now I am thinking what a great place to belong too. NOT

All good Brother from another mother ;) Like I said some people just cant communicate, and like you said some dont like change.

You can take a Grai to water put you cant make it drink.

[Johnny Canuck]

Dean is not promoting me...he is promoting this site to me.

Mate, why would I promote this to any of my buddys the way some of these fellas are carrying on, its a golf forum so any topic about golf gear is valid and relevant.

Dean is a top bloke and said it would be good to have you on here Hutchy...Thats it!

There was just a bit of an "incident" last week with a new member. I was only raising the issue because of how it was handled.

Gemmell was a little more fiery than you though. He may have instigated just a bit of it.

Guys like Yoss and I are peace lovers and chose not to get involved.


This isn't 'Nam guys. There are rules.

Your out of your element, Donnie.


I liked gemmel I think everyone jumped on him very quick. I got this same treatment when I joined also....
I know there are rules but boys take a bloody chill pill.
He will do his Te like anyone else NO f..... Special treatment!!
But hell I also told another guy about the forum today and now I am thinking what a great place to belong too. NOT

It is a good place. I got a guy from my club on the other week. I think he got a semi as soon as he saw the pro shop.


Nice;)

Dont Puma own cobra? I have small feet so stick to JDM shoes, cold stiched made with SUS tan leather....very smooth, ha.

Size 13. I am only wearing JDM shoes if I cut out the toes. Ecco all the way for I.

[Johnny Canuck]

Welcome aboard Hutchy.
I for one would appreciate it if you did stick around and share your wealth of JDM knowledge and the odd bargain along the way.

My bag and regular gamers are mixture of JDM and USDM. I love my TRPX Driver with Oban Devo7tion shaft and RomaRo Wedges with Shimada K HW120 shafts. I also love my Titleist AP2 712 with DG S300 shafts and SeeMore Si3 Putter.
Taste in Golf Club models and manufactures is much like cars. There's some you like and some you don't and some you dislike just because of the brand or where they are made no matter how good the actual product might be.

He also likes Servo burgers and Dorito roles. Don't let him fool you into thinking he is refined.

[Hutchy]

Welcome aboard Hutchy.
I for one would appreciate it if you did stick around and share your wealth of JDM knowledge and the odd bargain along the way.

My bag and regular gamers are mixture of JDM and USDM. I love my TRPX Driver with Oban Devo7tion shaft and RomaRo Wedges with Shimada K HW120 shafts. I also love my Titleist AP2 712 with DG S300 shafts and SeeMore Si3 Putter.
Taste in Golf Club models and manufactures is much like cars. There's some you like and some you don't and some you dislike just because of the brand or where they are made no matter how good the actual product might be.

Cheers Buddy

Thats a great line up you have, and you are right? I have nothing against USDM I just choose JDM just like I choose my car, my clothes and about everything else I own.

I initiated the conversation about JDM in hope of finding some conversation on the subject I like and know. Guess it was bit tongue in cheek but it worked non the less, now I know who I can hold a conversation with early doors.

[petethepilot]

Adidas is owned by Taylormade (or vice versa?). I like their bags as the quality is ok and you don't see many of them!

JDM gets a bum rap from people who dip a toe into it.
It is expensive…but it holds its price (compared to OEM stuff)
but it really needs to be fitted for you. Otherwise it becomes an expensive exercise in chasing your tail.

Jap forged irons generally have a feel and a quality far beyond US stuff.
It is designed to look good as image is everything in Japanese culture.
Golf is an expensive sport in Japan. People think nothing of dropping $5K
on a set of clubs etc. In fact you can drop $11K on a driver shaft (7 dreamers) if you wish.

Their specs can be weird as the average player in Asia is not a Golfwrx 132 mph driver speed He-man.
Hence, fitting (or a good understanding of the product) is necessary.

I am not playing JDM stuff atm (Titleist) but may return to the fold again if I turn my game around.
Dean, Hutchy or I would be happy to help if someone has an interest.

Pete

[PeteyD]

OK I will bite, just what is a Dorito roll.

[coalesce]

Doritos in a roll?

[Hutchy]

He also likes Servo burgers and Dorito roles. Don't let him fool you into thinking he is refined.

Ha...I don't eat...cant afford that and JDM. Am partial to the odd pie. Need to sell some gear on here for me next feed. All bullshit aside hope this is the domestic site I have been hoping for.

Just want you to clear that up with Deno buddy, you seem like a decent bloke so no reason for infighting.

[Johnny Canuck]

OK I will bite, just what is a Dorito roll.

Hutchy was telling us that one night at work he couldn't get takeaway, so he grabbed a bag of Doritos and a loaf of white bread (correct me if you actually got buns, Hatchy)

[Hutchy]

Adidas is owned by Taylormade (or vice versa?). I like their bags as the quality is ok and you don't see many of them!

JDM gets a bum rap from people who dip a toe into it.
It is expensive…but it holds its price (compared to OEM stuff)
but it really needs to be fitted for you. Otherwise it becomes an expensive exercise in chasing your tail.

Jap forged irons generally have a feel and a quality far beyond US stuff.
It is designed to look good as image is everything in Japanese culture.
Golf is an expensive sport in Japan. People think nothing of dropping $5K
on a set of clubs etc. In fact you can drop $11K on a driver shaft (7 dreamers) if you wish.

Their specs can be weird as the average player in Asia is not a Golfwrx 132 mph driver speed He-man.
Hence, fitting (or a good understanding of the product) is necessary.

I am not playing JDM stuff atm (Titleist) but may return to the fold again if I turn my game around.
Dean, Hutchy or I would be happy to help if someone has an interest.

Pete

Pete, I couldn't have put it better buddy.

This is why I broached the subject, hoped we could all benefit from each others knowledge in a more localised setting.
I am learning all of the time, I may also game US product at some point, I never rule anything out, just on the JDM wave and its a barrel.

Like Pete said I am always here for any questions, and hope you fellas can help when I need also.

Cheers Hutchy

[Hutchy]

Hutchy was telling us that one night at work he couldn't get takeaway, so he grabbed a bag of Doritos and a loaf of white bread (correct me if you actually got buns, Hatchy)

Missed the HP sauce buddy. cant have a dorito roll without a bit of the brown stuff;)

[Yossarian]

I bet there would be some great times diving into the brown sauce.

[Daves]

Hutchy was telling us that one night at work he couldn't get takeaway, so he grabbed a bag of Doritos and a loaf of white bread (correct me if you actually got buns, Hatchy)

Just one step away from a Chip Butty (Crisp Sandwich), my lunch of choice at High School!

[Johnny Canuck]

Missed the HP sauce buddy. cant have a dorito roll without a bit of the brown stuff;)

Shit. I meant Hatchy!

[Hutchy]

Dont forget the best butter with those salt and Lineker....Trade you for a dorito roll with brown sauce and a bike with no wheels.

[braddles]

I have tried a few JDM clubs (thanks to PTP), but none have really stood out so far. The best was probably the Miura MB-001 irons, however performance was similar to my Nike blades - there wasn't a significant difference in feel either. A couple of drivers looked and felt amazing but distance was below average - this could have been that they just didn't suit me (or I was worried about skying a $1000+ driver!).

I won't rule out using JDM clubs, however I am not going to spend heaps of $$ just to try something that looks cool (I am sure the quality is also better than most USD clubs). The new Mizuno MP-5s will probably be as JDM as I get!

[3oneday]

Hello Hutchy.

What are you wearing?

Have you ever hit a topflite tour iron?

Welcome 8)

[rqrox]

Welcome Hutchy,
I have a love hate relationship with most things JDM. I am currently using some AF tour's with NS pro's and an 201 3 wood..on the flip side I prefer the fairway finder of the Callaway XR driver attached to a Rouge shaft as I haven't found a JDM driver/ shaft combo that I like, although I keep trying to fine " the one"

[TheNuclearOne]

Greetings Hutchy,

Haven't overly dwelved into JDM but nabbed a bargain Yammy driver a while back and threw a HD6 into it. It's not massively forgiving but it's one hot driver. Recently beat out a Bio Cell Pro to stay as one of my two backup drivers.

Also have a Yammy 3 wood here somewhere that was great the couple of times i hit it. I'll keep it laying in wait until i fully dial my AB TP in.

Lastly do Srixon's 545's qualify? Trialling now with some various Modus incoming or soon to be. Only hit them a couple of times so far but they seem brilliant.

[benno_r]

It's completely hypocritical not saying anything about his attempts to get around the rules that were so important last week.

Yes he will benefit the JDM players, but shouldn't you all have to wait the big 40/40 that Gemmell got beat down with?

Fwiw, I don't care either way. He comes with referrals, no one will get ripped off.

I don't think the big issue with Gemmell was the 40/40 thing, I think it was more his blantant disregarding of it, because "technically" he was posting in the equip me forum.

Referrals or not though, rules should be rules for everyone - we all had to pay our pennants when we started.

[benno_r]

And most importantantly, JDM may not go better, or make me a better golfer, but when it comes to irons and wedges, the crazy Japanese bastards know how to make them sexy!

Edit: And last but not least, welcome aboard Hutchy.

[Eca]

Welcome Hutchy!

[PeteyD]

Japan in November, wonder if I will bring anything home other than a ball marker ;)

[benno_r]

Japan in November, wonder if I will bring anything home other than a ball marker ;)
You will now you have announced it.

[PeteyD]

HA it is far cheaper to buy JDM here than over there

[benno_r]

HA it is far cheaper to buy JDM here than over there

So peteybuyee.jp not opening for business?

[PeteyD]

Ha you wouldnt use buyee with in japan. But you would need a permanent address.

[Deester]

Welcome Hutchy ...

I run a mix of JDM and AU/USDM and find that the finish and workmanship on JDM gear (especially irons) blows USDM gear out of the water. Resale seems pretty decent too.

If you blind folded me and ask me to hit a Titleist (JDM) VG3 or (AU/USDM) AP2, I reckon I'd be hard pressed to pick which is which to be honest.

I game a set of Titleist VG3 2014's iron heads, which I went with because they sit somewhere between the current AP1/AP2 in terms of forgiveness. The JDM finish, workmanship and soft forging are all a bonus.

I am fan of JDM, but more interested in how the said club/gear performs over whether it's JDM or AU/USDM.

[Johnny Canuck]

Welcome Hutchy ...

I run a mix of JDM and AU/USDM and find that the finish and workmanship on JDM gear (especially irons) blows USDM gear out of the water. Resale seems pretty decent too.

If you blind folded me and ask me to hit a Titleist (JDM) VG3 or (AU/USDM) AP2, I reckon I'd be hard pressed to pick which is which to be honest.

I game a set of Titleist VG3 2014's iron heads, which I went with because they sit somewhere between the current AP1/AP2 in terms of forgiveness. The JDM finish, workmanship and soft forging are all a bonus.

I am fan of JDM, but more interested in how the said club/gear performs over whether it's JDM or AU/USDM.

If you couldn't tell the difference between the VG3 and AP2 blindfolded, in what way are the "soft forgings" a bonus?

[Deester]

If you couldn't tell the difference between the VG3 and AP2 blindfolded, in what way are the "soft forgings" a bonus?

With resale ... Seems to be a "sought after" asset from what I can tell ?

[Johnny Canuck]

http://wishongolf.com/forged-irons-from-japan-vs-us-or-china-the-facts/

Tom knows a thing or two.

[Deester]

http://wishongolf.com/forged-irons-from-japan-vs-us-or-china-the-facts/

Tom knows a thing or two.

I don't discount T.W's knowledge for one second, I'm purely just going by what the "buzz" on the forums ect by the JDM heads out there.

As I mentioned earlier, I can't really tell the diff in feel to be honest ... And at the end of the day I'm not overly fussed whether it's JDM or AU/USDM, it's not a deal breaker for me. I'm by no means a flusher or anywhere close, so for a me a mis-hit feels like sh!t either way.

I can say from owning both the VG3 and AP2, that the finish on the VG3 craps on the AP2 ... Just a personal opinion/observation.

As I was saying, the VG3's are touted as being somewhere between the AP1 and AP2 in terms of "forgiveness/performance" and that pretty much well fit the bill for what I wanted.

I wanted to love the AP2 714's, but they just didn't work for me regardless of forge and origin. :)

[Jazz18]

http://wishongolf.com/forged-irons-from-japan-vs-us-or-china-the-facts/

Tom knows a thing or two.

What's your point? Because Tom Wishon says Japanese forgings are not better they mustn't be? "Malarkey"

[timah!]

What's your point? Because Tom Wishon says Japanese forgings are not better they mustn't be? "Malarkey"

Because a bunch of clowns on an internet forum say they're better, they must be?

[Johnny Canuck]

What's your point? Because Tom Wishon says Japanese forgings are not better they mustn't be? "Malarkey"

My point is that it is an interesting article and carries a little more weight than some of the codswallop that gets tossed around by people on here claiming that certain forgings are softer or better.

Show me a similar article that says they are in fact better; I would be curious to read it. Maybe I am missing out on something.

[benno_r]

It's the same argument that applies on so many things.

R1 vs 1298 Duke
wrx vs 911

etc, etc, etc

JDM and USDM perform way above the level we can, but sometimes it good to have something nice. For all the crazy sh*t that comes JDM, in my opinion, the USDM guys can't build things as sexy as the Japanese can.

Cheers,
Ben

[Johnny Canuck]

It's the same argument that applies on so many things.

R1 vs 1298 Duke
wrx vs 911

etc, etc, etc

JDM and USDM perform way above the level we can, but sometimes it good to have something nice. For all the crazy sh*t that comes JDM, in my opinion, the USDM guys can't build things as sexy as the Japanese can.

Cheers,
Ben

I will agree with that. People are using the clubs because they feel that they look good. If it gives you confidence before the shot, you are already ahead.

However, surely some of the sexiness factor is due to the rarity of the clubs.

[TheNuclearOne]

However, surely some of the sexiness factor is due to the rarity of the clubs.

Also due to the end product goal imo. The Japs place a huge premium on looks (way over and above the US) and this doesn't come cheap.

I have no doubt USDM could approach or possibly even match the JDM sexiness but it would not fit their market and hence it doesn't happen.

[benno_r]

However, surely some of the sexiness factor is due to the rarity of the clubs.

If I was to be totally honest, having something unique is a huge appeal to me.

So everyone on here stop using Rakuten and Buyee. [emoji2]

[Johnny Canuck]

Also due to the end product goal imo. The Japs place a huge premium on looks (way over and above the US) and this doesn't come cheap.

I have no doubt USDM could approach or possibly even match the JDM sexiness but it would not fit their market and hence it doesn't happen.

Exactly. They are used to paying a certain amount and won't pay the extremes.

Japanese/Korean culture isn't about keeping up with the Jones', it's keeping up and surpassing.


If I was to be totally honest, having something unique is a huge appeal to me.

So everyone on here stop using Rakuten and Buyee. [emoji2]

I would love to be able to use my Yururi wedges, I try every year, but they never make the final cut. Best looking ferrules I have ever seen, seriously!

[Jazz18]

Because a bunch of clowns on an internet forum say they're better, they must be?


My point is that it is an interesting article and carries a little more weight than some of the codswallop that gets tossed around by people on here claiming that certain forgings are softer or better.

Show me a similar article that says they are in fact better; I would be curious to read it. Maybe I am missing out on something.
My comment was slightly tongue in cheek fella's, quoting him saying malarkey from the article. What I'm saying is there's two reasons that I don't buy what he says. One, he only has experience with the Chinese forging houses (as written in the article), not the Japanese ones. That means he has no grounds for comparison. And the second is that, unless I'm mistaken, all of his forged clubs would come out of China? What would you expect him to say other than what's in the article. I'm not saying Japanese is better for sure but some guys do prefer it for various reasons. I like it because it's a bit different. I'm not into the showiness of it but there is no arguing the quality of the stuff. I'm not against non JDM, still have most of my bag non JDM. At the end of the day, which brand or type of equipment you like is purely a personal taste, it's as simple as that.

[Daves]

Yururi Wedges are the schizzle! Love them, and they really work for me. But if you had any clubhead speed at all I would reckon they would spin their tits off. I hit a low runner today with 53*, didn't get more than 6 feet off the ground, stopped dead 2nd bounce!

[Jazz18]

Yururi Wedges are the schizzle! Love them, and they really work for me. But if you had any clubhead speed at all I would reckon they would spin their tits off. I hit a low runner today with 53*, didn't get more than 6 feet off the ground, stopped dead 2nd bounce!

Sounds awesome Daves. Which model have you got?

[Daves]

Pretty sure Tom knows the Japanese forging houses very well as well. I think he worked for/with a few at one time or another, as a designer and or production manager.

[Daves]

Sounds awesome Daves. Which model have you got?

Some Genkis, some Tours, and some Keigekiku Tatakis.

[Jazz18]

Some Genkis, some Tours, and some Keigekiku Tatakis.

Do they all "spin their tits off" ;)

[Jazz18]

Pretty sure Tom knows the Japanese forging houses very well as well. I think he worked for/with a few at one time or another, as a designer and or production manager.

Ok, fair enough

[Daves]

Do they all "spin their tits off" ;)

Yep, they can shred a ProV1 in a matter of minutes!

[benno_r]

Sounds awesome Daves. Which model have you got?
It's often quicker to ask Dave which model he hasn't got.

[Jazz18]

It's often quicker to ask Dave which model he hasn't got.

Yeah I realised how silly the question was as soon as I asked it!

[D22marshall]

Where do we get fit for our clown suits?

[mrbluu]

Where do we get fit for our clown suits?
As if u don't already have one [emoji2]

[D22marshall]

As if u don't already have one [emoji2] You saw me there didn't you!!

[Lagerlover]

This guys always got something listed...


http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nerang/golf/used-epon-forged-by-endo-af-502-irons-4-pw-shimada-k-s-tour-s-/1085921584

[oldracer]

gees this subject gets old

[Yossarian]

Should suit you then?

[oldracer]

Should suit you then?probably

[Hatchman]

Where do we get fit for our clown suits?

Try the Icky Fowler collection at Cobra/Puma :D

[D22marshall]

This guys always got something listed...http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nerang/golf/used-epon-forged-by-endo-af-502-irons-4-pw-shimada-k-s-tour-s-/1085921584 Anyone know this guy?

[Scifisicko]

Yururi Wedges are the schizzle! Love them, and they really work for me. But if you had any clubhead speed at all I would reckon they would spin their tits off. I hit a low runner today with 53*, didn't get more than 6 feet off the ground, stopped dead 2nd bounce!

I dont think this is limited to the Yuri's, Ive played exactly that shot recently with an old Vokey (into normal greens - if your greens are hard that would be impress)

[Daves]

I dont think this is limited to the Yuri's, Ive played exactly that shot recently with an old Vokey (into normal greens - if your greens are hard that would be impress)

With the westerlies at the moment, they are a bit hard. The shot was from only 25 metres and with my low swing speed, I was impressed. I have plenty of Vokeys, Clevelands, TMs Zips, Muiras etc, and I am in no doubt the Yururis spin more than any of them for me. They murder soft covered balls real quick.

[Deester]

My point is that it is an interesting article and carries a little more weight than some of the codswallop that gets tossed around by people on here claiming that certain forgings are softer or better.

Show me a similar article that says they are in fact better; I would be curious to read it. Maybe I am missing out on something.

I guess what I was trying to say was ...

That the finish and workmanship on the VG3's I have killed the AP2's without a doubt. When you have both in hand before you it's very easy to see. The AP2's have a more "mass produced" look to them.

As to the actual forging quality/process and materials used, I wasn't really commenting on that. My only comment was I couldn't really feel a diff between the two.

As for "soft forging" I was only going by what I was told about the VG3's and it's a good idea to check loft's and lies every couple of years as they can drift after use due to being a "softer" forge. I'm no metalologist, so really have no clue about it to be honest.

I guess it's like all the Mizzy heads that harp on about "buttery feel" attached to Mizzy forges ... At the end of the day it must just be perception if there is no quantifiable diff between them and say a Chinese made forge ?

[Scifisicko]

With the westerlies at the moment, they are a bit hard. The shot was from only 25 metres and with my low swing speed, I was impressed. I have plenty of Vokeys, Clevelands, TMs Zips, Muiras etc, and I am in no doubt the Yururis spin more than any of them for me. They murder soft covered balls real quick.

A while ago I used a groove sharpener to sharpen a 54* vokey. I shaved a heap of metal out of the grooves and left them so that anything struck full and pure spun off the front of the green and ripped the ball a new one. Apart from being virtually unplayable for full shots, it was obvious it made the grooves illegal. Im not suggesting the yuris are illegal, but as all the manufacturers use laser cutting to get the sharpest grooves right on the legal limit, surely the harder steels are going to hold their edges longer than the soft buttery ones (?) and therefore deliver the same max spin for longer? That said, its hard to argue with a 25 meter shot with a 2 meter apex that stops dead on the second bounce on hardish greens!

[Daves]

A while ago I used a groove sharpener to sharpen a 54* vokey. I shaved a heap of metal out of the grooves and left them so that anything struck full and pure spun off the front of the green and ripped the ball a new one. Apart from being virtually unplayable for full shots, it was obvious it made the grooves illegal. Im not suggesting the yuris are illegal, but as all the manufacturers use laser cutting to get the sharpest grooves right on the legal limit, surely the harder steels are going to hold their edges longer than the soft buttery ones (?) and therefore deliver the same max spin for longer? That said, its hard to argue with a 25 meter shot with a 2 meter apex that stops dead on the second bounce on hardish greens!

My understand is that the Genkis are non conforming grooves, but you can use them in non elite comps until 2024, the Tours are conforming grooves. There a few threads on these wedges on WRX and it seems to be a consensus that they spin like crazy, the Tours slightly less than the Genkis. A sharp leading edge seems to be part of the equation. They seem to be holding their edge for me so far. The rusty patina they develop probably also helps.

I have done the groove tool thing on old wedges before and got similar results, but it didn't seem to last long.

[jimandr]

My understand is that the Genkis are non conforming grooves, but you can use them in non elite comps until 2024, the Tours are conforming grooves.

Now that this information has come to light, can we have Daves disqualified from the 2014 Qld Champs?

[Daves]

Now that this information has come to light, can we have Daves disqualified from the 2014 Qld Champs?

Nice try Jiminski, but I only had the Tours back then anyway.

[Steve57]

Now that this information has come to light, can we have Daves disqualified from the 2014 Qld Champs?
Was it one of the conditions of play for the said competition?;)

[Hutchy]

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[Hutchy]

Because a bunch of clowns on an internet forum say they're better, they must be?

Ha...No one is interested in your drivel peanut...go annoy someone else.

[Hutchy]

Gday all, been flat out so sorry for late reply to you all ;)

Thanks for the welcome!!! beno locked and loaded and on the way tomo, Enjoy the round Friday Eric...Must make the next one!

Thanks for the input fellas, wasnt sure how to step in to the fold but seen some of you like a mix of JDM and USDM. What ever works is good IMO

[timah!]

Ha...No one is interested in your drivel peanut...go annoy someone else.

Likewise newbie. Suggest you learn your place. People won't take too kindly to sob stories about personal crap should you choose to stuff people around here.

[Lagerlover]

Likewise newbie. Suggest you learn your place. People won't take too kindly to sob stories about personal crap should you choose to stuff people around here. Carn the Scrays..

[Hutchy]

Ha, your special arnt ya... all you have done is used wank and clown comments to a "NEWBY"...Turrets??? Is it me or just JDM???

[Hutchy]

I will help you through this if you want...what's the problem?

[Lagerlover]

Um... WTF??

[KristianJ]

Enough with the pot shots please.

[Lagerlover]

Anyone care to give a fair unbiased explanation as to what this is all about?

[Jazz18]

Likewise newbie. Suggest you learn your place. People won't take too kindly to sob stories about personal crap should you choose to stuff people around here.

I'm a relative newbie. "Suggest you learn your place". What exactly does that mean?

[Hutchy]

Mate this fella has just jumped all over me from the start, everyone else has been cool.

Introducing myself by starting a topic whatever that topic may be, as long it is golf related it is relevant IMO.

A simple welcome or reasonable opinion would be the normal response I would expect. Being told I am a wanker and a clown for using JDM??? Great welcome to a forum I was recommended.

This bloke needs to pull his head and realise we all like golf and are here for the same reasons, sorry to all for having to hear this but I am not standing for anyone calling me a wanker or a clown based on the gear I use or for any other reason!

But I guess I should know my place and take the shit....NOT.

Hope this clears things UP.

[Hutchy]

I'm a relative newbie. "Suggest you learn your place". What exactly does that mean?

Exactly mate...He obviously has size issues IMO

[timah!]

Yep. That's clearly it.
If you don't like the place you're welcome to leave as quickly as you came. I hear there's another place that fawns over JDM dribble?

Ps, I am a bit confused. What do turrets have to do with golf?

[Daves]

Seriously, what is your problem Tim?? why the aggro??. If you don't like the subject matter, don't read the thread. I don't remember you be voted king? It is a open forum for everyone isn't it?

[D22marshall]

Anyone care to give a fair unbiased explanation as to what this is all about? I guess there must be a level of importance here that some people are better than others.

[Hutchy]

Yep. That's clearly it.
If you don't like the place you're welcome to leave as quickly as you came. I hear there's another place that fawns over JDM dribble?

Ps, I am a bit confused. What do turrets have to do with golf?.....IT is about as relevant as Wank factor and clowns playing golf.....So now you are showing me the door...?

[D22marshall]

Mate this fella has just jumped all over me from the start, everyone else has been cool.Introducing myself by starting a topic whatever that topic may be, as long it is golf related it is relevant IMO.A simple welcome or reasonable opinion would be the normal response I would expect. Being told I am a wanker and a clown for using JDM??? Great welcome to a forum I was recommended.This bloke needs to pull his head and realise we all like golf and are here for the same reasons, sorry to all for having to hear this but I am not standing for anyone calling me a wanker or a clown based on the gear I use or for any other reason!But I guess I should know my place and take the shit....NOT.Hope this clears things UP. Again sorry for the peanut on here I feel bad for introducing a top guy to a site to be attacked by strange individuals.Don't know who exactly has control here but maybe a word to people might be needed.Golf is what it's all about right?

[3Puttpete]

I guess there must be a level of importance here that some people are better than others.

Champs winners? Not really, we're like the rest of you. Just better golfers

[benno_r]

Champs winners? Not really, we're like the rest of you. Just better golfers
High 5 champ!

[3Puttpete]

JDM all the way brother. I've got srixon gloves

[KristianJ]

Clearly I need to repeat myself.

Please, fellas...enough with the pot shots, calling people peanuts, telling other members that their opinion's worth jack, etc, etc.

Common sense should dictate that if you see a thread title that is of little interest to you, you keep out of it. I've used some JDM gear before and found it to be quite good (even the Yonex driver that I've been trying to sell for 6 weeks already), but I'm not interested enough in it to participate, let alone go "OMG JDM circle jerk!!!"

[Hutchy]

Again sorry for the peanut on here I feel bad for introducing a top guy to a site to be attacked by strange individuals.Don't know who exactly has control here but maybe a word to people might be needed.Golf is what it's all about right?

All good Dean, you were introducing me to a good crowd for the most, Cant judge a whole site based on individuals who have nothing better to do than jump on subject matter that they don't understand.

Looking forward to some golf days with some of the fellas here, that's why I joined.

[Hutchy]

Clearly I need to repeat myself.

Please, fellas...enough with the pot shots, calling people peanuts, telling other members that their opinion's worth jack, etc, etc.

Common sense should dictate that if you see a thread title that is of little interest to you, you keep out of it. I've used some JDM gear before and found it to be quite good (even the Yonex driver that I've been trying to sell for 6 weeks already), but I'm not interested enough in it to participate, let alone go "OMG JDM circle jerk!!!"

I just don't understand, nor should I have to. I wouldn't judge you or anyone else on the car they drive or the clothes they ware, so why should I be judged on the equipment I use, and why should I stand for some random giving it to me.

I am here for golf, It would have been easy for me to say cobra is shit but that is the individuals choice, BTW GLWS of that driver;)...What shaft is in it?

[Ned]

JDM all the way brother. I've got srixon gloves

http://catchj.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/honma2.jpg

[Bitter]

All good Dean, you were introducing me to a good crowd for the most, Cant judge a whole site based on individuals who have nothing better to do than jump on subject matter that they don't understand.

Looking forward to some golf days with some of the fellas here, that's why I joined.

I too joined for the same reasons as you. Whilst I havnt had the same aggression towards me I have seen a bit in here which looks to be totally unnecessary. Like KristianJ said, if it doesn't interest you why my just stay away from that thread?

[Hutchy]

http://catchj.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/honma2.jpg

Nice....Been itching to try the new TW Visard....I don't ware a glove ;)

[3Puttpete]

http://catchj.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/honma2.jpg

JDM tees? Nice

[backintheswing]

Not having a pot shot or anything KJ, but I thought you gave up being a mod. I seem to remember a resignation letter or something.

Anyway, I see you still are, so good luck with it. Controlling a JDM thread is tough.

[Hutchy]

Do those tees feel better...they sure look the business.

[Hutchy]

Not having a pot shot or anything KJ, but I thought you gave up being a mod. I seem to remember a resignation letter or something.

Anyway, I see you still are, so good luck with it. Controlling a JDM thread is tough.

Little did I know the can of worms would not be to everyone's taste, I had a chat with Dean on the subject matter pre post, he pointed me in the right direction completely. Go with what you know and want brother!

Will take the positives from this.

[Ned]

Do those tees feel better...they sure look the business.

Dean is all over them......................

[Hutchy]

Yippee....42 posts ;)

[Ned]

Yippee....42 posts ;)

????????????

[Hutchy]

Dean is all over them......................

Like a fat chick on a pizza???

[Hatchman]

Like a fat chick on a pizza???

Only a pizza?
I would have gone with sausage [emoji14]

[Coldtopper]

Hutchy moving in a forward direction. Modart big dog thats one seriously f off stick. Low ball $300 in true ozgolf style.

[Hutchy]

Hutchy moving in a forward direction. Modart big dog thats one seriously f off stick. Low ball $300 in true ozgolf style.

The shaftnis were its at brother...Will do the head for 5 in true oz golf style ;)

[D22marshall]

???????????? Post count ha ha

[Hutchy]

Like I said the positives brother ;)

[Hutchy]

Only a pizza?
I would have gone with sausage [emoji14]

Haha....Cumberland?

[Eca]

Gday all, been flat out so sorry for late reply to you all ;)

Thanks for the welcome!!! beno locked and loaded and on the way tomo, Enjoy the round Friday Eric...Must make the next one!

Thanks for the input fellas, wasnt sure how to step in to the fold but seen some of you like a mix of JDM and USDM. What ever works is good IMO

Make sure you come next time Hutchy. Should be fun meeting Dean & Pete tomorrow. I have met so many from here during the Vic & Nsw champs & i will tell you, great bunch of guys and one gal here (that i met) and have played with so many too on local comps, all great chaps! At least the thread gave me some entertainent for 5minutes or so :)
Maybe being 5foot nothing & not really a big hitter, jdm specs suits me :) love it.

[oldracer]

Make sure you come next time Hutchy. Should be fun meeting Dean & Pete tomorrow. I have met so many from here during the Vic & Nsw champs & i will tell you, great bunch of guys and one gal here (that i met) and have played with so many too on local comps, all great chaps! At least the thread gave me some entertainent for 5minutes or so :)
Maybe being 5foot nothing & not really a big hitter, jdm specs suits me :) love it.you're BIG in my eyes Eca :)

[oldracer]

Likewise newbie. Suggest you learn your place. People won't take too kindly to sob stories about personal crap should you choose to stuff people around here.what's the go with this T?????

[Hutchy]

Make sure you come next time Hutchy. Should be fun meeting Dean & Pete tomorrow. I have met so many from here during the Vic & Nsw champs & i will tell you, great bunch of guys and one gal here (that i met) and have played with so many too on local comps, all great chaps! At least the thread gave me some entertainent for 5minutes or so :)
Maybe being 5foot nothing & not really a big hitter, jdm specs suits me :) love it.

Cool Eric....I would love to jump in next time for sure, ha yes it was fun:) I agree I think this will be a great forum and lookforward to the QLD champs, very much so. Have a good one with Dean, Pete and Stew, some low numbers I expect between you chaps. How is the X Type T. Did you pull the trigger on the stinger?

Have a good one mate, leme know how it goes.

[chappy1970]

I'm not an authority Hutchy, but I am having some success with the Yammy driver and Tourstage irons. Recently put some SPB's in the irons and by far the smoothest shaft I've put in play.

I bought some Fourteen wedges from Stew last year and they are awesome.

Stumbled on an Epon hybrid a few weeks back, haven't managed to get it on course as yet.

Welcome to the forum

[Hutchy]

Hey Chappy, Yammy drivers are so underrated IMO, definitely one of the best for feel and distance I have used. You will be staring with the UT, they feel very good and with the right shaft are very direct and looooong....Full forged titanium.

Haven't had the fourteen wedges yet but have been told they are up there with the best. Cant see me using any other steel shaft for a while, SP series are so good and combo through the set works very well for me.

Thanks mate.

[Coldtopper]

Hey Chappy, Yammy drivers are so underrated IMO, definitely one of the best for feel and distance I have used. You will be staring with the UT, they feel very good and with the right shaft are very direct and looooong....Full forged titanium.

Haven't had the fourteen wedges yet but have been told they are up there with the best. Cant see me using any other steel shaft for a while, SP series are so good and combo through the set works very well for me.

Thanks mate. thinking of getting on a Modart 52 have you gamed one?

[Eca]

you're BIG in my eyes Eca :)
I was sure i had the shower closed at the cottage :)
Al, still upset you beat me shooting my round of the year ��


Cool Eric....I would love to jump in next time for sure, ha yes it was fun:) I agree I think this will be a great forum and lookforward to the QLD champs, very much so. Have a good one with Dean, Pete and Stew, some low numbers I expect between you chaps. How is the X Type T. Did you pull the trigger on the stinger?

Have a good one mate, leme know how it goes.
No stinger, just put a pulled fw80 today, see if i can hit it tomorrow. Should have waited for you to post the head here, would have had better bargain haha..
My money is on Dean tomorrow. Pete is getting over the flu & Stew might be jet lagged, hope he brings the Axis1 to match Mattys. Im out of sort.

[Hutchy]

thinking of getting on a Modart 52 have you gamed one?

Mod 52 and 58 in the travel set....toyos are trick of the week.

2 best sets of wedges I have used by a stretch. Recommend.

[Hutchy]

I was sure i had the shower closed at the cottage :)
Al, still upset you beat me shooting my round of the year ��


No stinger, just put a pulled fw80 today, see if i can hit it tomorrow. Should have waited for you to post the head here, would have had better bargain haha..
My money is on Dean tomorrow. Pete is getting over the flu & Stew might be jet lagged, hope he brings the Axis1 to match Mattys. Im out of sort.

Would still be with me if you didnt want it E ;)

They are superb and heavily underrated. Will be close but is a tight track I hear, ego should be left in the bar and 5W off the T ;)

Thats a shoot-out I would like to see.

[D22marshall]

I was sure i had the shower closed at the cottage :)Al, still upset you beat me shooting my round of the year �� No stinger, just put a pulled fw80 today, see if i can hit it tomorrow. Should have waited for you to post the head here, would have had better bargain haha.. My money is on Dean tomorrow. Pete is getting over the flu & Stew might be jet lagged, hope he brings the Axis1 to match Mattys. Im out of sort.Play it down and go low good game Eca!!I have too many new toys my money is on old sneaky, beware of the wounded

[Lagerlover]

While we're on JDM stuff, you ever have a set of SZ irons Hutchy?

[Hutchy]

Play it down and go low good game Eca!!I have too many new toys my money is on old sneaky, beware of the wounded

Its on...gona start taking bets. Get me black book out and dust if off.

[Hutchy]

While we're on JDM stuff, you ever have a set of SZ irons Hutchy?

Srixon Z?

[Lagerlover]

Cobra SZ

[Hutchy]

Haven't tried that model. I presume they are full forged? Tried a few others in the nets with a few of the drivers. They arnt bad but just not for me, I have a full set of amp woods here a mate wants me to offload.

Was more in to cobra when it was ozy owned and gamed the baffler for a long time.

[Lagerlover]

Sorry, I must have the wrong brihutchy..

[Hutchy]

Is ther another?

[Lagerlover]

Hope so.

[Hutchy]

Nah I am the only one I know...dare I ask...did I sell you a ZL? If I did I cant remember gaming it errr to much gear gone through this shed haha.

[Lagerlover]

Trying to remember...


http://myworld.ebay.com.au/brihutchy1

[Johnny Canuck]

Trying to remember...


http://myworld.ebay.com.au/brihutchy1

Interesting reading there.

[Hutchy]

Yep thats me, Got 4 bad feedbacks out of hundreds of items sold just on ebay which I never use, went back to the UK on 2 occasions and relied on the brother in-law stupidly, the others were just good old oz post.... they got resolved. But ebay doesn't show you that I guess.

Thanks for that. Did I sell you something??? Oh and one of those showed delivered via tracking but I still refunded.

To be honest out of the thousands and I mean thousands of transactions and gear I have sold over the years in all forums and referrals there is always gona be a couple that go wrong, over all I reckon I have done ok and have always resolved any issues. Am sure many out there have had good old oz post Them them look like a ass. I recon I run at about 99% conversion on sales to delivery over all forums and sales to mates and pro shops.

Its always easy to try and discredit someone I guess if you dig deep enough...I have no fear in using my own name in any forum!

[Lagerlover]

It was a genuine inquiry mate, actually looking for another set..

[Hutchy]

At the end of the day mate, selling gear isn't smooth sailing just as selling anything isnt, show me one man who hasn't ever been disappointed with any purchase.

Shit happens and some people over react, that's just comes with the territory of selling. If you don't trust me then don't buy anything...very simple.

[Lagerlover]

Yep thats me, Got 4 bad feedbacks out of hundreds of items sold just on ebay which I never use, went back to the UK on 2 occasions and relied on the brother in-law stupidly, the others were just good old oz post.... they got resolved. But ebay doesn't show you that I guess.

Thanks for that. Did I sell you something??? Oh and one of those showed delivered via tracking but I still refunded.

To be honest out of the thousands and I mean thousands of transactions and gear I have sold over the years in all forums and referrals there is always gona be a couple that go wrong, over all I reckon I have done ok and have always resolved any issues. Am sure many out there have had good old oz post Them them look like a ass. I recon I run at about 99% conversion on sales to delivery over all forums and sales to mates and pro shops.

Its always easy to try and discredit someone I guess if you dig deep enough...I have no fear in using my own name in any forum!

As I said, It was a genuine inquiry mate, actually looking for another set.

[Hutchy]

It was a genuine inquiry mate, actually looking for another set..

Nothing to hide here buddy, If you need anything PM me I guess. I will see if I can help.

[Hutchy]

No all good, when you sell anything in large volumes you will always have complaints, had my own business for years and it comes with the teritory, its how you deal with it that counts.

I have a new set of Sold out limited SUS plated still in plastic with woven ferrules and modus tour 120 shafts with a set of epon grips unfitted, will fit to your size. They are 2.2k delivered

Or a set of epon 301s heads only for $800, leme know If any of those will do.

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[Lagerlover]

:shock:

Best not. The kids need feeding..

But thanks.

[Yossarian]

Why does ping hold its value despite not being soft forged?

[Hutchy]

Think its a bit like Titleist, they don't supersede themselves every six months.

[Jazz18]

No all good, when you sell anything in large volumes you will always have complaints, had my own business for years and it comes with the teritory, its how you deal with it that counts.

I have a new set of Sold out limited SUS plated still in plastic with woven ferrules and modus tour 120 shafts with a set of epon grips unfitted, will fit to your size. They are 2.2k delivered

Or a set of epon 301s heads only for $800, leme know If any of those will do.

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Jeezus they look nice!

[Hutchy]

:shock:

Best not. The kids need feeding..

But thanks.

Have a set of srixon forged that are $250

[Hutchy]

Jeezus they look nice!

Mate these are the real deal, gamed a set of these for a few months and they are still one of my favourites.

If I wasn't loving the p1s I would have scratched the itch with these.

JDM at its best right here.

[Yossarian]

They look like metal golf clubs.

[Jazz18]

Mate these are the real deal, gamed a set of these for a few months and they are still one of my favourites.

If I wasn't loving the p1s I would have scratched the itch with these.

JDM at its best right here.

Dean keeps raving about Epon irons. Maybe one day...........

[PeteyD]

Hutchy please wait and use the pro shop, won't be long mate.

[Hutchy]

Ok cool, sorry bud

[oldracer]

Dean keeps raving about Epon irons. Maybe one day...........just got delivery and hit my combo Epon AF302 and AF Tour set shafted with Steelfiber 110CW, wow they are some very nice bats, Dean is right

[D22marshall]

I normally don't push something but when you get to Epon irons IMO none better.
Drivers fairways are ok but the irons stand out glad they are good.
How to the shafts hold up?

[oldracer]

I normally don't push something but when you get to Epon irons IMO none better.
Drivers fairways are ok but the irons stand out glad they are good.
How to the shafts hold up?shafts feel superb Dean, have been using Modus 120X ss and have an i95s in a driving iron and these 110CW reg are closer to the modus than the 95s, must be the CW, very very happy with the head/shaft combo. Actually even getting some draw with my irons woohoo

[Hutchy]

shafts feel superb Dean, have been using Modus 120X ss and have an i95s in a driving iron and these 110CW reg are closer to the modus than the 95s, must be the CW, very very happy with the head/shaft combo. Actually even getting some draw with my irons woohoo

Great combo set, you must be overthemoon with those. Good shaft choice.

[oldracer]

Great combo set, you must be overthemoon with those. Good shaft choice.thaks Hutchy, couple of range sessions only but, yep, love em so far and in the bag for tomorrow, should be interesting

[Hutchy]

They will score for sure, tours are so pure and in the shorts they are deadly accurate
302s are just that bit more forgiving but still players, perfect compliment for the tours. Keep us posted buddy. GG

[Johnny Canuck]

They will score for sure, tours are so pure and in the shorts they are deadly accurate
302s are just that bit more forgiving but still players, perfect compliment for the tours. Keep us posted buddy. GG

Hutchy, completely random, just curious what you play off. TourSpec lists you as 18, but you seem to have a lot more knowledge than your normal 18 capper.

[Hutchy]

Yep I hear you. never play sats, always have the girls. Cap has been the same for a loooong time. shoot anywhere between +5/10, game has changed massively over the last year. not so much from playing but more understanding WITB and how it works. Massive believer in the right fit will save lots of shots. Always been in to the how it works...the builder in me I guess.

Have settled on a bag for a change so that is helping heaps.

[Johnny Canuck]

Yep I hear you. never play sats, always have the girls. Cap has been the same for a loooong time. shoot anywhere between +5/10, game has changed massively over the last year. not so much from playing but more understanding WITB and how it works. Massive believer in the right fit will save lots of shots. Always been in to the how it works...the builder in me I guess.

Have settled on a bag for a change so that is helping heaps.

I noticed that you know a bit about the Modus line.

Any comparison to C Tapers? The tapers work for me, before that I used PX. My only complaint about the Tapers is that they aren't the greatest feeling shafts.

[Hutchy]

KBS C Taper? Gamed the PXI in the I20s a few years back and they are a good shaft, very direct and good flight, but as you say you sacrifice bit feel with any C Taper.

Modus, SP and shimada are about the best steel I have gamed, just got a set of nippon 999 shafts in black nickel that are supposed to be all business, time will tell as with most things.

Shafts are a very personal choice, I reckon go with what suits, you just never know till you try them all ;)

KBS are ok, I just find them a bit inconsistent with poor dispersion for me.

[Hatchman]

Which model Epon Driver is the best one?

[Daves]

Which model Epon Driver is the best one?

I have 2 AF 101s that I really like, straightest Driver I have used. Blakey has one too I think, with a Nunchuk that he swears by, or did last time he mentioned it. A few models old now, so not as pricey as it once was.

[oldracer]

the 101 looks like the bees knees Dave, good value now, my only query is without the adjustable hosel, is there any adjustment that can be made with face angle other than pulling the shaft and replacing to the angle desired?????

[Daves]

the 101 looks like the bees knees Dave, good value now, my only query is without the adjustable hosel, is there any adjustment that can be made with face angle other than pulling the shaft and replacing to the angle desired?????

Unfortunately no, though I am not sure why you would want to change the standard set up, they look great at address imo.

[Lagerlover]

No all good, when you sell anything in large volumes you will always have complaints, had my own business for years and it comes with the teritory, its how you deal with it that counts.

I have a new set of Sold out limited SUS plated still in plastic with woven ferrules and modus tour 120 shafts with a set of epon grips unfitted, will fit to your size. They are 2.2k delivered

Or a set of epon 301s heads only for $800, leme know If any of those will do.

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are these the ones you have listed on another site for $1750??

[Hutchy]

are these the ones you have listed on another site for $1750??

MMM yes they are...what is your point buddy, Ah...you don't realise that all prices are in US $$$ on TSG....So they are actually less money on here. Must adjust accordingly.

Although the transfer rate fluctuates every day, Errr Ok lets say $1750 US $$$ but only once I hit the 40 days....8 days and counting.

If I sell my 301s I may just keep and sell the shafts ;) Anything could happen in 8 days.

[Coldtopper]

36761 Haven't seen a iron out of the US that rates against this . Cheers D22

[oldracer]

Bit flash mate, too many rocks in your praccy fairway for them there beauties

[petethepilot]

are these the ones you have listed on another site for $1750??

Hutchy is right.
All TSG prices are US dollars!
Also, as virtually all sales are international, postage costs need to be taken into account.

Pete

[Hutchy]

36761 Haven't seen a iron out of the US that rates against this . Cheers D22

They are things of beauty, you should be overthemoon with those buddy.

The shape was derived from a Ben Hogan design years back, the new hogans are v similar with short neck but don't have that epon feel.

[Coldtopper]

They are things of beauty, you should be overthemoon with those buddy.

The shape was derived from a Ben Hogan design years back, the new hogans are v similar with short neck but don't have that epon feel. Agree 100% iwas thinking they look like a set of pro originals I once had. Most decent jp irons look similar these days? Pasted c10's in thinking these are keepers (today anyway).

[D22marshall]

36761 Haven't seen a iron out of the US that rates against this . Cheers D22
Awesome man they look the business love the ferrules and removed the paintfill?
Great build

[D22marshall]

Happy with the lie angles?

[Hutchy]

These are my attempt at personalisation...excuse the pun.

Black paint-fill, satin shafts and black chrome ferrules.

[Hutchy]

Agree 100% iwas thinking they look like a set of pro originals I once had. Most decent jp irons look similar these days? Pasted c10's in thinking these are keepers (today anyway).

Yep dead right. pro originals. I almost picked up a set not long back, was very tempted to snare them and send for copper plate.

I hear you...yes most JDM irons have a similar appearance, only because they tend not to make them different with plastic badges though. P1s are an exception, just nothing like them in looks, feel and quality combined in one package.

Crazy or yurury muscles are also very special and would love a set of either.

[Coldtopper]

Happy with the lie angles? cheers Dean no worries with lie . Hit a few today ok with success.

No idea double quote stuff . Hutchy I like your build. Very happy with the pick up. Can't believe how easy they fly even off whacks. What do think of Buchis?

[Hutchy]

cheers Dean no worries with lie . Hit a few today ok with success.

No idea double quote stuff . Hutchy I like your build. Very happy with the pick up. Can't believe how easy they fly even off whacks. What do think of Buchis?

Yep the P1s are tho most surprising full muscle I have hit, very easy indeed, by rights I shouldn't be gaming them but they just work.

Havent tried the buchi...yet! think I will jump on a fuso UT though, they are sweet by all accounts. You gamed the buchis yet? man would love a demo with those. maybe wedges first.

[Coldtopper]

Got 52 & 58 zodia's on way was thinking buchi next up here. Might head over for some custom grinds and be done with it.

[markTHEblake]

. Being told I am a wanker and a clown for using JDM??? Well you do talk funny. Wanna buy an STard T388? It's mint!

[Hutchy]

Got 52 & 58 zodia's on way was thinking buchi next up here. Might head over for some custom grinds and be done with it.

Nice, pick me up a set bro, sheep a must ;)

[Hutchy]

Well you do talk funny. Wanna buy an STard T388? It's mint!

Hey Marky...Easy on the northerner ;)

Did you get the weight up?

[Hutchy]

Well you do talk funny. Wanna buy an STard T388? It's mint!

Wana Buy its big brother?

[markTHEblake]

I have 2 AF 101s that I really like, straightest Driver I have used.. How do you find it on cold wet days? Mine falls out of the sky, but it's the black IP version. I have a theory that the metal is hydrophilic, and it just loses spin.

[Hutchy]

Nah mine is the non IP. in the back up.

On its way to Deno.

Just couldnt get the spin right, air is heavy up here in the hills, too much fog. silly really.

[markTHEblake]

Hey Marky...Easy on the northerner ;) Did you get the weight up? Yeah, I forgot the specs now, but it will be 43.75" and play around D2/3. I am guessing the head Is around 202 now, and that was hot melt maxed out. but it's pretty schmick and just and goes miles and miles and I don't have a problem with control. though I really have to chase it otherwise I hit it too low. But it's a nice feeling to be swinging as hard as I can and not spraying it. And the sound, is like music. But whenever I use it, my rest of my game goes to shite. I think it's because I have changed my swing subconsciously to hit it higher, and when some dickhead at the range told me that, and it messed my head. I haven't used it since. I am gunna go get it all checked in trackman with my coach, before I do anything else. But there is a fair chance I need to let it go, I think I need more loft.

[Hutchy]

Yeah, I forgot the specs now, but it will be 43.75" and play around D2/3. I am guessing the head Is around 202 now, and that was hot melt maxed out. but it's pretty schmick and just and goes miles and miles and I don't have a problem with control. though I really have to chase it otherwise I hit it too low. But it's a nice feeling to be swinging as hard as I can and not spraying it. And the sound, is like music. But whenever I use it, my rest of my game goes to shite. I think it's because I have changed my swing subconsciously to hit it higher, and when some dickhead at the range told me that, and it messed my head. I haven't used it since. I am gunna go get it all checked in trackman with my coach, before I do anything else. But there is a fair chance I need to let it go, I think I need more loft.

Sweet, that must be so good at that weight. many have dreamed of having the T at 200g+. the sound and feel of those things is insane. good work on getting it right.
You want a modart trade?
Low spin monster is my guess, the XV is 200g and higher launch, havent used it since we met the last time, will swap that also if you are keen and it doesn't work out.

[Hutchy]

Yeah, I forgot the specs now, but it will be 43.75" and play around D2/3. I am guessing the head Is around 202 now, and that was hot melt maxed out. but it's pretty schmick and just and goes miles and miles and I don't have a problem with control. though I really have to chase it otherwise I hit it too low. But it's a nice feeling to be swinging as hard as I can and not spraying it. And the sound, is like music. But whenever I use it, my rest of my game goes to shite. I think it's because I have changed my swing subconsciously to hit it higher, and when some dickhead at the range told me that, and it messed my head. I haven't used it since. I am gunna go get it all checked in trackman with my coach, before I do anything else. But there is a fair chance I need to let it go, I think I need more loft.

To be honest it is your build at that length that made me go with the ryoma F2 as a short driver, head size and weight is perfect and will play between 43/44 probably D5

[Jazz18]

These are my attempt at personalisation...excuse the pun.

Black paint-fill, satin shafts and black chrome ferrules.

Noice Hutchy. They hardly look used at all.