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Moe Norman
8th April 2006, 09:26 PM
Well the side for the first test has been picked and there have been some interesting selections.

I'm glad I didn't end up putting my house on Johnson playing because they've gone with Dizzy to replace the injured Kaspa.

Clarke has replaced Langer so I assume he will bat 5 with Hussey opening.

The most interesting selection has been MacGill in for Symonds. So now the side has 5 recognised batsman, 5 frontline bowlers and Gilly as the keeper. Obviously Gilly is an all-rounder and to a lesser degree so is Lee but that's a raw batting lineup, lucky we're facing a shocking attack.

Jarro
9th April 2006, 03:56 AM
not sure about having only 5 recognised batsman in the lineup ???

don't even know why we're going over there in the first place? hardly the last test playing side you wanna play against before the Ashes :roll:

Moe Norman
9th April 2006, 05:58 PM
perhaps you spoke too soon!

terryand
9th April 2006, 06:11 PM
Looks like the 5 prong bowling attack is working well.

Maybe a little too much celabrating after the SA tour.

Terry.

Jarro
9th April 2006, 06:16 PM
the pitch looks pretty lifeless i must say.

If the Aussues batted first they'd have made a thousand by now.

Fishman Dan
9th April 2006, 07:33 PM
Watched the first 2 sessions. The pitch was dull and slow, but the bowling, fielding and, have to say it, captaincy was thoroughly lifeless.

45 overs before MacGill got a look in, and Banga's scoring at will were 1/200.

Jarro
9th April 2006, 07:35 PM
4/313 with 16 overs still to bowl in the days play.

What's the most number of runs scored in a test match in one day ????

Moe Norman
9th April 2006, 08:06 PM
the poms took us for 407 in the ashes when punter sent them in on day 1 of the second test.

I'd say 450+ would be the record

Jarro
9th April 2006, 08:10 PM
wel if MacGill keeps bowling halftrackers then the record might be in trouble

markTHEblake
9th April 2006, 11:58 PM
looks more like Warne was the bunny than McGill. This (so far) has been his most expensive bowling figures ever.

PRC
10th April 2006, 05:26 AM
Pity Symonds didn't get a game. This could have been his breakthrough performance, I would have backed him to make 20-30 against the Bangladesh attack on an absolute highway. He could have taken 1-80 with the ball too, so I really think the selectors made a poor call here.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 05:34 AM
He also might have made 150 and taken 4-26 too PRC ......

Webster
10th April 2006, 08:32 AM
He also might have made 150 and taken 4-26 too PRC ......

Not a chance Jarro. Whats your fixation with Symonds? Do you have a crush on him?

AndyP
10th April 2006, 09:25 AM
What's with the ropes being in so far on this ground?

Jarro
10th April 2006, 11:57 AM
Not a chance Jarro. Whats your fixation with Symonds? Do you have a crush on him?

i think he's a great cricketer.

give him a go, you're just dirty 'cos he's not a Vic :razz:

3oneday
10th April 2006, 11:59 AM
i think he's a great one-day cricketer.better now

Jarro
10th April 2006, 12:01 PM
better now

whatever :roll:

bloody mexicans

3oneday
10th April 2006, 12:01 PM
whatever :roll:

bloody mexicansthanks sandy

Bruce
10th April 2006, 03:34 PM
Well the second new ball made a big difference.

NOT!!

6/413 at lunch with Magilla taking 4. At least we slowed 'em down to around 3.5 an over.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 03:43 PM
it's a slaughter

3oneday
10th April 2006, 03:43 PM
What is their highest score ??? must be fast approaching you would think...

Pete

PRC
10th April 2006, 04:02 PM
Well if they bat for long enough to kill off the game, then maybe one of the Aussies (Ponting) could have a crack at Lara's 400.
I think it says something about the pitch when not one Bangladeshi has been dismissed for single figures.

Crap, just as I typed that one of them is out for 6.

Webster
10th April 2006, 04:16 PM
i think he's a great cricketer.

give him a go, you're just dirty 'cos he's not a Vic :razz:

jarro - I think you have a little bit of a thing going for the big lad with the dreadlocks and the white lips. Dont be embarassed - to each their own.

He is simply not up to Test cricket standard. He's a pyjama game player only (a good one in fact)

AndyP
10th April 2006, 04:21 PM
I notice that Symonds has just taken a catch.

****, he's good.......

Grunt
10th April 2006, 05:27 PM
Hayden has failed yet again!!!!
LBW 6

Sorry I know I will upset you Qlder's but he has to go. Time for a change. Bring in Jaques for the next test and see how he goes, will be the end of us for the ashes series if he holds his place and has another run of failures in that series.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 05:28 PM
no comment

Grunt
10th April 2006, 05:31 PM
Ponting gone now too. We might not be treating them with the respect they should get.

PRC
10th April 2006, 05:33 PM
Yeah I think you're right. Great effort by MacGill 8-108

Moe Norman
10th April 2006, 05:34 PM
Sorry I know I will upset you Qlder's but he has to go. Time for a change. Bring in Jaques for the next test and see how he goes, will be the end of us for the ashes series if he holds his place and has another run of failures in that series. you didn't learn in the other thread did you?

Fishman Dan
10th April 2006, 06:10 PM
4 words.

Good bye Damien Martyn.

Goodbye could also be used theoretically saving a word.

See also:

Au revoir.
Sionara.
Auf widersehn.
Hooroo.
Seeya, eh.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 06:17 PM
i agree .... byebye Marto :smt087

bring in Symonds :mrgreen:

terryand
10th April 2006, 06:36 PM
Hayden has failed yet again!!!!
LBW 6

Sorry I know I will upset you Qlder's but he has to go. Time for a change. Bring in Jaques for the next test and see how he goes, will be the end of us for the ashes series if he holds his place and has another run of failures in that series.

Jeez, Ponting has failed 3 digs in a row now too, lets get rid of him while we're at it :smt104

Terry.

Moe Norman
10th April 2006, 06:38 PM
Warne was ordinary, get rid of him.

PRC
10th April 2006, 06:41 PM
It's an Andrew Symonds protest match. The players are either refusing to take wickets (Warne, Lee and Clark) or throwing their wickets away (Hayden, Ponting, Martyn) in support of Symonds.
The only players trying are the ones that don't like Symonds (MacGill, Gillespie, Hussey) and they should be dropped and banished to the Tasmanian Pura Cup team. Or something equally as bad, like living in Sydney.

Bruce
10th April 2006, 06:50 PM
Did the Aussies even get to have a net session before this test?

The low and slow has seen all 4 wickets to fall so far. Either chopping on from lack of bounce or caught in front playing back to balls that aren't getting over their knees.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 06:55 PM
4/66 .. Husseys gawwwwn :roll:

The curry-munchers must've put something in our water.

markTHEblake
10th April 2006, 07:04 PM
Warne has just had his most expensive bowling figures ever on a runs per over basis - and by a lot as well. Thats got to be embarrassing coming from the worst team in test cricket (perhaps ever)

Moe Norman
10th April 2006, 07:19 PM
esepcially after he claimed that Murali inflates his stats against the Banga's which is unfair.

Fishman Dan
10th April 2006, 07:23 PM
Clarke gone.

Moe - he's taken a crapload of wickets against them.

Jarro
10th April 2006, 07:29 PM
over 100 isn't it ??

BrisWesty
10th April 2006, 08:12 PM
Well Warnie's figures certainly got inflated by Bangladesh. 8-0

Maybe this is the chance for Gilchrist to bat back into some form and Lee to put his head down and make a century.

The only way MacGill will keep his place is by getting a century to follow up his "8 for". ;-)

AndyP
11th April 2006, 07:45 AM
What were the odds before this game? What do you think the Aussies will spend their money on?
Might go towards the yearly junket, like the funds from the Banga one-dayer last year.

Grunt, your crusade against Hayden is worse than me against Martyn a couple of years ago.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 08:02 AM
Hey I may be hard on him but remember how long it took him to get in the side in the first place. He really missed his chance at playing at a time where his best cricket was. They (the selectors) should not make the same mistakes again and hold a guy in the team that is stopping a better player getting in. It should be easier to lose your spot than it is at the moment. I agree Martyn is on the edge also.
With no more cricket before the Ashes I can see the team going in that series with an old team that gets it butt kicked or just scrapes in with the advantage that home series give. Remember the other teams are improving faster than we are and are closing the gap between us and them.

How many guys do we have that are more than likely will retire as soon as they get dropped from the test side. It won't take that long for the state series to lose it's great training base for younger cricketers, because they know that it has nothing to do with gaining selection until the guys in the test team retire. Look at how old Clark is, 30+ before making his test debut. If McGrath's wife did not get crook he would not have made the side yet I bet. There are heaps more examples around the country, and it is not a new issue, Jamie Siddons is a great example.

Guess I will stir you all up again.

AndyP
11th April 2006, 03:00 PM
Looks like Gillespie has kept his form with the bat, and the Aussies have nearly avoided the follow-on. Gilchrist not far off a timely century.

In squad news, Bracken & Cullen have been sent over for the second test to relieve some bowlers, if required. Apparently Warney's elbow/shoulder is a bit stuffed.

Jarro
11th April 2006, 03:15 PM
century reached by Gilly .... nice batting by Dizzy too to help him get there.

the pitch is keeping really low too, should be interesting when they return from lunch as the Bangladeshi's are due to take the new ball.

Bruce
11th April 2006, 03:29 PM
A small step in the first session to lessening the humiliation. 1 run short of the follow on and Gilly has his ton. Imagine if we had been asked to follow on to Bangladesh?

terryand
11th April 2006, 04:24 PM
Grunt, Hayden has scored 1000 runs in the past 5 calender years, even when he was not in for he managed to achive this feat.

The only batsman in history to do this...yeah drop him.

Terry.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 04:57 PM
Grunt, Hayden has scored 1000 runs in the past 5 calender years, even when he was not in for he managed to achive this feat.

The only batsman in history to do this...yeah drop him.

Terry.

Doesn't mean he will score 1000 this year though does it.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 04:58 PM
All out not, lets see what happens when we bowl. Lee has back complaint and Warne a shoulder.

Jarro
11th April 2006, 05:21 PM
Doesn't mean he will score 1000 this year though does it.

you willing to bet against him ?

AndyP
11th April 2006, 05:36 PM
Bangas are travelling along quite nicely at 6.5 runs per over through 5 overs....

Fishman Dan
11th April 2006, 05:50 PM
8 overs, 0/40.

Ponting should stick with this for about 40 overs before resorting to spin... :roll:

Jarro
11th April 2006, 05:52 PM
Lee in particular is copping a pasting

Moe Norman
11th April 2006, 06:41 PM
Doesn't mean he will score 1000 this year though does it. How many tests have we played in 2006? Is this the 4th or 5th? He has more than 400 runs already....

terryand
11th April 2006, 06:46 PM
Quote:
Doesn't mean he will score 1000 this year though does it.
How many tests have we played in 2006? Is this the 4th or 5th? He has more than 400 runs already....

I must have missed a test,I only got to 331.

This is the 5th test this year (new years test,3 in SA,banga's 1st)

5 tests to go (banga's 2nd, first 4 in the Ashes)

Might be pushing it, but he was like this last year then score 3 or 4 tons in 5 matches from memory (but don't quote me on that).

Terry.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 06:47 PM
Only 3 or 4 test left this year depending on when the ashes start. I do doubt he get the 1000 this year.

Moe Norman
11th April 2006, 07:01 PM
with only 10 tests in the year he needs 100 a test, so it could be a bit more difficult this year.

I've never been a fan of Hayden, but I recognise he's our second best bat over the past 6 months and yes, that includes Hussey.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 07:04 PM
He may have been the best over the last 6 months (against pretty substandard opposition) but he was almost the worst in the ashes series. I just think he should have lost his spot after the ashes series and not be given a second chance.

Moe Norman
11th April 2006, 07:08 PM
they had to drop the entire batting lineup if you're making ashes scapegoats.

He scored a ton in the 5th test to save his career and has gone from strength to strength since.

My point is, nobody got runs in England and not everyone has got runs since. So point the gun at the ones that have missed out since, not Hayden.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 07:14 PM
Ok, I see your point. My view is influenced by his age as well I guess and the fact that we might slip into a real hole if the whole team retires together like what happened in the years following Lillie, Chappell & Marsh. It also took a while to replace the Waugh's when they left.There is a real gap developing in the upcoming talent, upcoming is now around 28 & that is too old in my opinion.

Moe Norman
11th April 2006, 07:21 PM
perhaps you're right.

But I think the opening role is one area we're not short on upcoming talent.

If Hayden or Langer, or both go in the next 18 months we have ready made replacements in Jacques and Hussey. Young Cosgrove can also open the batting and Chris Rogers is also excellent.

The most worrying area still remains the fast bowling stocks.

We have plenty of middle order depth in a range of ages and excellent keeper/batsman depth.

Jarro
11th April 2006, 07:24 PM
fast bowling is absolutely our biggest concern.

can't see too many shining lights coming up the highway

Grunt
11th April 2006, 07:39 PM
Tait might be alright but he might be a bruce reid type and injury will really halt his test career.

Grunt
11th April 2006, 07:41 PM
Bangers 4/103 lead by 261

Warne & Magill bowling.

Fishman Dan
11th April 2006, 09:48 PM
Cosgrove has eaten more pies than Boon, Merv and Warne put together. He'll struggle to hold his place in the SA team.

Jarro
12th April 2006, 01:37 PM
Warnies on the warpath 8)

Bangas are now 8/147 with Warne on a hatrick

Jarro
12th April 2006, 01:47 PM
now 9/147 ... Dizzy picked another one up 8)

Jarro
12th April 2006, 01:52 PM
all out.

Aussies need 307 for victory.

Dizzy finishes with a nice 3 wicket haul in the second dig (3/18 off 11 overs)

3oneday
12th April 2006, 01:54 PM
all out.

Aussies need 307 for victory.

Dizzy finishes with a nice 3 wicket haul in the second dig (3/18 off 11 overs)so, predictions ?????

Jarro
12th April 2006, 01:57 PM
I'm guessing you'll se our top order show the Banga's a little more respect.

The wicket looks a little slow and isn't doing much off the seam. If the openers see off the new ball, they should look to score pretty easily and make the total comfortably.

Jarro
12th April 2006, 03:18 PM
Aussies 0/31 at lunch

Hayden on 12, Hussey on 18.

Jarro
12th April 2006, 04:41 PM
1/72 after 29 overs.

Hussey's gone for 37

Jarro
12th April 2006, 05:59 PM
1/114 at tea

Hayden is on 44, Ponting on 30.

Aussies require a further 193 runs with 9 wickets remaining.

AndyP
12th April 2006, 06:47 PM
Maybe they only had money riding on a particular margin in the first innings......

Looks like they took the Bangas a bit too easily in the first instance, and have had to put their heads down to dig themselves out of the hole.

terryand
12th April 2006, 06:52 PM
Anyone remember this test when SL were the minows.


http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1992-93/AUS_IN_SL/AUS_SL_T1_17-22AUG1992.html

Terry.

AndyP
12th April 2006, 06:56 PM
No, but it made for some good reading.

AndyP
12th April 2006, 07:18 PM
Grunt, what's Hayden's running total for the year upto now?

Jarro
12th April 2006, 07:31 PM
uh oh, Haydos is gawwwn :(

made a nice 72 though, should see him retain his spot for a while longer at least.

terryand
12th April 2006, 07:34 PM
Grunt, what's Hayden's running total for the year upto now?

Way to go Lou "kiss of death" Richards :smt011

Terry.

Jarro
12th April 2006, 08:02 PM
Martyn's gone ... for 7 :roll: ..... hopefully that's the last we'll be seeing of him.

AndyP
12th April 2006, 08:22 PM
Have you already forgotten how his saved us against the South Africans? That's gotta buy him at least 2 years.

terryand
12th April 2006, 08:28 PM
Thank God they brought Clarke back. 19 and 9 ....

goneski, again.

Terry.

Fishman Dan
12th April 2006, 10:53 PM
Knife's edge. Lose 1 wicket early, we could be all over quickly.

Tez tez tez.... If they put up with Martyn, Symonds and Kaspa for so long, Clarke has a lot more failures left in him before he gets the chop.

Face it - most cricketers would rather get out for 9, than run out for 72! Cardinal sin!!

Jarro
13th April 2006, 05:15 AM
Face it - most cricketers would rather get out for 9, than run out for 72! Cardinal sin!!

you think :confused:

i don't. It's all about making runs at the end of the day. If wonderboy doesn't start delivering soon he might not be in the long term picture.

Courty
13th April 2006, 09:39 AM
AUSTRALIA wicketkeeper Adam Gilchrist's plugging of sponsors near stump microphones was a deliberate ploy to have broadcasters turn down the volume of the devices.

Television executives would not take kindly to any free on-air advertising and it is a clever tactic of Gilchrist to name team sponsors.

He was overhead saying, "Get one for the boys at Travelex" or "Phone home on 3 Mobile" during play.

But the most audible plug was after Andrew Symonds, nicknamed Roy, fired in a throw.

"That's the one, Roy," Gilchrist enthused, before adding, "Plenty of energy ... from a ... Milo energy bar".

From http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,18797413-23212,00.html

Classic stuff. :mrgreen:

Jarro
13th April 2006, 09:48 AM
heard that on the news this morning Courty 8)

Grunt
13th April 2006, 01:17 PM
Gilly Gone 82 to get

Jarro
13th April 2006, 01:38 PM
i think we might be in trouble ......

Grunt
13th April 2006, 02:14 PM
Warne was not there long now Lee & Ponting in.

Jarro
13th April 2006, 03:05 PM
nice ton to Ponting, bringing it up with a boundary 8)

we need a further 17 runs now with 3 wickets remaining

Jarro
13th April 2006, 04:06 PM
Punter saves the day, unbeaten on 118

Aussies get up with 3 wickets to spare.

PRC
17th April 2006, 03:02 PM
What's going on today? Foxsports live update says that play has been delayed due to fine weather and a normal pitch :???:

Have the Bang cops taken to the players like they did to the media?

Jarro
17th April 2006, 11:43 PM
it's been raining a bit i believe :(

markTHEblake
18th April 2006, 07:21 AM
what a nob Ponting is, carrying on like a pork chop when he is playing against the worst team in the world.

Fined only 25% of his match fee - he should have been suspended for that, and worse that the umpires actually conceded to him and reversed their decision.

Bruce
18th April 2006, 09:11 AM
what a nob Ponting is, carrying on like a pork chop when he is playing against the worst team in the world.

Fined only 25% of his match fee - he should have been suspended for that, and worse that the umpires actually conceded to him and reversed their decision.

It looked horrible but suspending him would have made the system look pretty **** too because he was completely right about the decision.

Aleem Dar is the person who changed my mind about hawk-eye. Until I saw him in action I didn't think hawk-eye was good enough, but now I would recommend replacing him (and Clownden and Huckner) with a hatstand and camera.

AndyP
18th April 2006, 05:55 PM
Come on Dizzy! Only a few more runs.

Grunt
18th April 2006, 06:09 PM
He did it, congrats mate

AndyP
18th April 2006, 06:10 PM
Woohoo! I saw his (and McGrath's) 50 at the Gabba. I wonder if he is riding his bat around again.

Moe Norman
18th April 2006, 06:21 PM
booooyah!!!!!

his mullet was holding him back, oh and off a measly 300 balls too ;)

3oneday
18th April 2006, 08:07 PM
Gee, I thought you blokes were talking about a 50 for him !!! Damn, a ton by Dizzy, betya McGrath is spewing !!!

:lol:

Moe Norman
18th April 2006, 08:11 PM
nice comeback, averaging 130 with the willow and a touch under 10 with the cherry.

Jarro
19th April 2006, 01:40 PM
somebody wave the white flag already :roll:

Bruce
19th April 2006, 01:48 PM
Not yet! Dizzy is a chance to double it up. We only need about a session and half to knock over the Bangas. Which is lucky as there is probably only about 3 sessions of play left possible with the weather being what it is over there.

Jarro
19th April 2006, 01:51 PM
Highest ever score by a nightwatchman ..... pretty impressive stat that one ;)

AndyP
19th April 2006, 01:59 PM
Thoses Bangas are good for stats boosting.

Gillespie just got his 150. Oh my!
He also has more boundaries than Hussey.

Bruce
19th April 2006, 02:12 PM
Partnership currently stands at 281!!

Can Dizzy go past 197 and score more than the entire opposition team? He better get a move on, Punter will want him to bowl later today.

AndyP
19th April 2006, 02:33 PM
Hussey is a hack. Out for 182. Dizzy still going.

I wonder what tips he will pass onto Clarke for batting.

Bruce
19th April 2006, 03:56 PM
189 for Dizzy now. He is guaranteed top score for the match now.

Can he do it? Come on Dizzy!!!

Trung
19th April 2006, 04:09 PM
Cricket is a funny game..

201*

connico
19th April 2006, 04:38 PM
not out too.. lol

PRC
19th April 2006, 04:59 PM
It's a great moment for Gillespie. You think of all the injuries he had early in his career and how he was dumped after the Ashes and he's never complained. He deserves all the success that comes his way.

Courty
20th April 2006, 12:11 PM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=96508&rss=yes

Classic stuff.

markTHEblake
20th April 2006, 04:33 PM
what the hell happened to Cullen

obviously the selectors wanted to try him out, but why give him only 12 overs in two innings and Shane Warne who has an injury and needs his longevity preserved bowled about 60 overs ????

its not as if the aussies had any fear about losing the game, and they obviously picked 5 bowlers to spread the load

Fishman Dan
20th April 2006, 08:13 PM
Who said Warne has an injury? I know there was speculation, but if he was no good then he wouldn't have bowled 20+ overs. He's taking wickets, throw him the ball. Warne and MacGill systematically smashed them - more time for golf.

Bruce
21st April 2006, 08:15 AM
what the hell happened to Cullen

obviously the selectors wanted to try him out, but why give him only 12 overs in two innings and Shane Warne who has an injury and needs his longevity preserved bowled about 60 overs ????

its not as if the aussies had any fear about losing the game, and they obviously picked 5 bowlers to spread the load

Part of the problem was that he was bowling crap in the 2nd dig. I reckon we would have been given a decent spell if he were anywhere near it - but he wasn't.

Jarro
21st April 2006, 08:32 AM
so the lads have a few one-dayers against Bangas now and then it's a nice little holiday before the buildup to the Ashes series later this year.

Hardly the leadup you'd expect to probably the most important test series these players have played to date :confused:

Bruce
21st April 2006, 08:45 AM
It's stupid. We go through 5 tests in 5 weeks jamming them in so fast they don't know where they are and now they take 5 months until the next one. And it's the biggest Ashes (home series) in 20 years.

Cricket Australia are nearly as bad as the ICC but still much better than BCCI. That would have to be the most dysfunctional sporting administration in the world.