New irons fly+, rsi tp or xr pro

[peter_rs]

Looking at a new set of irons to replace the Adams cmb.

I was considering the mp15 or 850 forge but they don't seam to rate as above.

The xr pro's are on the limit of size I'm happy with.

Anyone playing these?

[mrbluu]

TM RSI with R+ C-Tapers please

[JADO75]

714 AP2's, you're welcome

[benno_r]

Fly z+ or wilson FG tour v4.

714AP2 best feature is resale.

[peter_rs]

Are you playing 714-ap2's they look nice but they are titleist irons and i have never heard them been called forgiving and hated the grind on the original ap2 irons.

[spanner039]

The rsi2's are great, consistent, good feeling, decent looking, damn forgiving and freaken long, only hit them at the tmpc and would buy them in a heart beat, but 1k + for tm's doesn't sit well with me.

[KristianJ]

I've only had a few holes of play with my recently acquired 850 Forged. Will give them a full round before saying too much about them, but first impressions were pretty promising.

Probably about a club longer than the CG7 Tours I had in the bag for my comp round, mighty forgiving, and not too glary in the looks department.

[mrbluu]

The rsi2's are great, consistent, good feeling, decent looking, damn forgiving and freaken long, only hit them at the tmpc and would buy them in a heart beat, but 1k + for tm's doesn't sit well with me.
Dibs. [emoji2]

[spanner039]

Dibs. [emoji2]

Is it legal to dibs a dibs that is yours that doesn't exist? If so dibs on something I dont have cause bluu hasnt got them yet.

Simple

Seriously pete the guys at the mga tmpl raved about these and put them miles in front of the tp's (they were the forged ones yes?)

[meh]

Fly z+ or wilson FG tour v4.

714AP2 best feature is resale.

What's so bad about them? I have them, they aren't terrible by any stretch. I only want to change as I'm never happy with what I have :(

[benno_r]

What's so bad about them? I have them, they aren't terrible by any stretch. I only want to change as I'm never happy with what I have :(
Nothing bad but nothing great. Maybe looks good behind the ball.

Feel was ok, forgiveness was ok, results were fine, but no shots with them got me excited.

[davidw88]

What size head are the xr pro, they look to be near ap1 size from pics.

[peter_rs]

They are the largest I have looked but don't look huge behind a ball

[Jerrymoo]

I had a set of the JPX-850 Forged, and they were okay. But no 3 iron, and I like a 3 iron. And they felt a bit harsh against other Mizuno's I've played, maybe the Boron?

RSi TP is pretty cool, but they do sound/feel a little different with the slots, and they're fairly expensive.

Callaway Apex worth a look, too.

[benno_r]

I am also a big fan of my Covert Forged, though they might be a touch big. J38/j40 DPC's are also a solid performer.

[talbo]

714 AP2's, you're welcome

^This

[peter_rs]

So is anyone playing the flyz+ or tp?

[meh]

Hit the rsi2 yesterday. I will be getting some.

[olddogmike]

714mb best irons I have plyed

[olddogmike]

714mb best irons I have played

[3oneday]

Excellent


Excellent


Don't reckon MB is what Pete would be into.

[FuzzyJuzzy]

714mb best irons I have played

Now there's a man with refined taste:).

[davidw88]

Tried the fly z + irons today, good looking head but didn't hit them as well as the srixons, hit apex pro irons pretty good as well

[graham_w]

Have a look at the Srixon 545 and 745 irons too. Look nice and they felt great. This coming from a cally ho.

GFO at Virginia have some demos of almoat all of the above and a launchy to have a bash on if you want to try them out.

[davidw88]

Srixons are the best of the bunch I have hit or owned.

[mrbluu]

I hit the vapor, vapor pro combo and the RSI today in the nets at golf mart. The surprising winner for me was the vapor pro combo.

[peter_rs]

Was it the first time for the pro combo?

[JADO75]

Word is the Nike's spin too much in the real world, shame cause they're such a gorgeous looking iron

[Croydo]

I'd also be looking at either the Srixon Z545 or Z745 irons.

[mrbluu]

Word is the Nike's spin too much in the real world, shame cause they're such a gorgeous looking iron
The combos or the blades??

[mrbluu]

Was it the first time for the pro combo?
Yep. They looked really nice as well.

The Vapor blade was DG S300 and the Pro Combo was DG Pro's S300. Would like to try both in different shafts like a C-taper or Tour V.

[benno_r]

Would like to try both in different shafts like a C-taper or Tour V.

Dreaming in Aus unless you go to pureform or Cool Clubs.

You suck Brosnan / Axis / Golf Mart!!!

[JADO75]

The combos or the blades??

The whole Vapor line & ball speed is way down on the drivers

[mrbluu]

The whole Vapor line & ball speed is way down on the drivers
I watched that on Mark Crossfield, the other guys said they were good. Maybe time to find some demo sets and find out for ourselves. [emoji2]

[benno_r]

The whole Vapor line & ball speed is way down on the drivers

Really? Head to head Covert 2.0 Perf vs Vapor Speed both with same Rogue 110s shaft went to the Vapor (only just).

[AusOdy]

Really? Head to head Covert 2.0 Perf vs Vapor Speed both with same Rogue 110s shaft went to the Vapor (only just). please stop comment on Vapor driver head... please

[braddles]

Yep. They looked really nice as well.

The Vapor blade was DG S300 and the Pro Combo was DG Pro's S300. Would like to try both in different shafts like a C-taper or Tour V.

My Vapor Pro irons with Modus 120x turned up today. Will let you know how they go after tomorrow's round.

[mrbluu]

My Vapor Pro irons with Modus 120x turned up today. Will let you know how they go after tomorrow's round.
Booyah!!! And dibs ;-)

[benno_r]

My Vapor Pro irons with Modus 120x turned up today. Will let you know how they go after tomorrow's round.

Dayum! Very nice set mate. You have just given me a reason to visit Hobart again.

[Jazz18]

Srixons are the best of the bunch I have hit or owned.

+1. The 545's are amazing and I'm guessing the 745's are just as good. The main problem with the Srixons is that you fork out over $1K for a set and they'll be worth 2 cents when you want to sell them. No good for a ho. I've got the TM Tour Preferred MC's and they go well. Pretty forgiving for the size and they look really nice. They go a little further than other players irons I've tried as well. The RSI TP's look pretty much the same but I haven't hit them yet. Can't put my finger on it but there's something not quite right about looks of the RSI2's to me.

[peter_rs]

Ok did a fitting today instead of playing

Tried
Xr pro
Flyz+
Mp 15
Rsi2
Rsi tp

Below is taken with salt. Tried various shafts with most heads, the winner kbs s+ 120

Longest iron
Rsi2 7 iron 184m

Straightest
Mp15

Length dispersion
Flyz+
Close the rsi tp

Width dispersion
Flyz+
Then rsi Tp

Best two on the averages


Flyz+
Club head 92mph
Ball speed 124mph
Spin 5400 rpm
28 m peak
166m carry
Drop angle 45*

Rsi tp
Club head 91mph
Balls speed 122mph
Spin 5900
28 m peak
162m carry
Drop angle 46

i ran out of time to do some tests on my current 7 iron

[JADO75]

That's an enormous 7 iron carry, I'd gladly take it any old day

[braddles]

That's an enormous 7 iron carry, I'd gladly take it any old day

I could swap my 4 iron for an Rsi2 7 iron! Possibly a 6 iron as my 6 iron SS is 91mph.

5400 spin is probably on the low side but fine if you play on soft greens.

[JADO75]

I'm 165-170m carry with my 7 & that has me by near 20. Spin seems low but if they get up in the air & come down near vertical it's happy days

[peter_rs]

As I said its on a launch so a little more then a grain of salt.

I hit the Rsi 2 in 4 groups of 6 and each tims got two pure flyers

If I had hit my 7 iron I would know how real the numbers are. I did have 28m length difference with the rsi2. It was enough to put me off them.

I'm still surprised that the tp flyz+ were so stable on distance.

[3oneday]

184m with a 7 iron.

That's funny.

[dee cee]

With that length I'd stick to dispersion to decide.

[TheNuclearOne]

With that length I'd stick to dispersion to decide.

Definately not distance challenged even allowing for a juiced monitor. Dispersion, feel and certainly how it looks to his eye would be the biggies.

[meh]

I thought the thing with the rsi is that they were supposed to be better dispersion wise?

[peter_rs]

The rsi don't help centre hits with a open or closed club face.

I agree that is why flyz+ looks like the iron followed by the rsi tp

By shape they are on really an update on my Adams cmb irons.

I just have to what to spend the money for retail as neither appears of eBay used yet.

[Aussielongdriver]

I’m hitting the RSI 2’s and loving them long and easy to hit.

[Hatchman]

I do like the look of the Fly-Z+ and the Fly-Z Pro for that matter.

35659
Fly-Z+


35660
Fly-Z Pro

[benno_r]

Had a bit of time with 714 AP2's on Sunday. I haven't been a fan of them (maybe obviously). This set had Shimada k7001 stiff, and for the first time I have thought these were decent irons. I have tried them with DG, DG XP, and project X, and have always sucked.

Of the shelf, Fly Z+ / KBS Tour R+ would be my choice.

[Hatchman]

Had a bit of time with 714 AP2's on Sunday. I haven't been a fan of them (maybe obviously). This set had Shimada k7001 stiff, and for the first time I have thought these were decent irons. I have tried them with DG, DG XP, and project X, and have always sucked.

Of the shelf, Fly Z+ / KBS Tour R+ would be my choice.

What was so good about the Shimada's?
I love the Shimada K's in my wedges. Silky smooth is the word I would use for them.
I have a set 4-PW of Shimada K's (don't know any more than that) that I put in the old 80's Cobra Mild Steels. There was no dramatic improvement from the TT??'s that were in them so want to put them in some thing else but don't have play $ atm to do anything about it.

[benno_r]

What was so good about the Shimada's?
I love the Shimada K's in my wedges. Silky smooth is the word I would use for them.
I have a set 4-PW of Shimada K's (don't know any more than that) that I put in the old 80's Cobra Mild Steels. There was no dramatic improvement from the TT??'s that were in them so want to put them in some thing else but don't have play $ atm to do anything about it.

I didn't think the Shimada's were fantastic, they launched high and spinny, and were too light (96g I think), but for the first time the AP2's didn't feel clunky or unforgiving. Definitely went up in my opinion.

I have had amp forged previously (with PX 5.5), and they were awesome. Set up like an AP2, but with feel, forgiveness, and performance. To me, they were the clubs AP2's wished they were. To an extent, I still think that with the Fly Z+.

A lot of people love AP2s, so they must be doing something right.

[mrbluu]

Pete a review on the cobras please.

[benno_r]

Easy, cobras make ball go boom and make long flight and make rain.

[mrbluu]

Easy, cobras make ball go boom and make long flight and make rain.
U need your own YouTube channel !!!

[3oneday]

A lot of people love AP2s, so they must be doing something right.golfers love Titleist, hackers play Cobra and Taylormade ;)

[benno_r]

golfers love Titleist, hackers play Cobra and Taylormade ;)
Fanbois love Titleist...

[3oneday]

Fanbois love Titleist...them too.

[mrbluu]

golfers love Titleist, hackers play Cobra and Taylormade ;)
What about old blokes using Callaway??

[benno_r]

What about old blokes using Callaway??
So so angry...

[3oneday]

More blunt than angry.

Callaway owns Topflite, natural progression.

[Hatchman]

What about old blokes using Callaway??

And Adams?

[Hatchman]

Wannabes and Posers use Mizuno.

[Captain Nemo]

And Pings....

[Hatchman]

And Pings....

I thought Pings was females and ladyboys.

[Captain Nemo]

I'm into both, all good.

[peter_rs]

To early for a real review but the sim distance has appeared on the course.

Dispersion is good and they are nice out of the rough.

I would have never dreamed of hitting a 4 iron on a 207m par3 like the second at coral cove. Where you have to hit it high.

[mrbluu]

You're a beast mate.

[Johnny Canuck]

The whole Vapor line & ball speed is way down on the drivers

I asked my mate who recently bought one about how it performed. He said the Vapor is much more forgiving than his R11, but at least 10 shorter when he nuts it.

[benno_r]

I asked my mate who recently bought one about how it performed. He said the Vapor is much more forgiving than his R11, but at least 10 shorter when he nuts it.
Played my vapor on a course I have many rounds with a bio cell and covert 2.0. Vapor was equal on length, but I missed 1 fairway today. By 3ft.

Clear upgrade to me, I hope people at least try it before they judge it. Though Brosnan isn't helping on that front.

[mrbluu]

Played my vapor on a course I have many rounds with a bio cell and covert 2.0. Vapor was equal on length, but I missed 1 fairway today. By 3ft.

Clear upgrade to me, I hope people at least try it before they judge it. Though Brosnan isn't helping on that front.
Any true in the rumours that they work really well for ppl with swing speeds under 85mph ;-)

[Captain Nemo]

Any true in the rumours that they work really well for ppl with swing speeds under 85mph ;-)

Maybe I should get one?

[Hatchman]

Any true in the rumours that they work really well for ppl with swing speeds under 85mph ;-)

So put Nike in the for Ladyboys category with Pings.

[Johnny Canuck]

Played my vapor on a course I have many rounds with a bio cell and covert 2.0. Vapor was equal on length, but I missed 1 fairway today. By 3ft.

Clear upgrade to me, I hope people at least try it before they judge it. Though Brosnan isn't helping on that front.

Not sure how far you hit it, this guy is an absolute bomber. Maybe it doesn't perform, lengthwise, for high speed hitters.

He is happy with the consistency and forgiveness and won't be changing back

[benno_r]

Not sure how far you hit it, this guy is an absolute bomber. Maybe it doesn't perform, lengthwise, for high speed hitters.

He is happy with the consistency and forgiveness and won't be changing back

Not that far. Must be a high speed thing. Works for me @ 99-102mph.

[meh]

To early for a real review but the sim distance has appeared on the course.

Dispersion is good and they are nice out of the rough.

I would have never dreamed of hitting a 4 iron on a 207m par3 like the second at coral cove. Where you have to hit it high.

Which clubs?

[peter_rs]

Flyz+

[meh]

Flyz+

Peter, can you give a review on the cobras please? Forgivenesss, blade length, comparisons to other similar irons. More info the better :)

[peter_rs]

I will with some more time I have only used them for 36 holes and no range time.

The look is close to the Adams cmb with a little more meat down low.

From above there is nothing to dislike.

I like the stock grips are nice

Forgiveness to me appears great. I have to trust them

The grove section appears smaller then other clubs but I think that's the rounded toe.

Worth a look at.

[mrbluu]

I'm getting bored so thinking of new set of irons and thinking of the Cobra Fly-Z Plus irons....anyone still using theirs???

[Steve57]

I'm getting bored so thinking of new set of irons and thinking of the Cobra Fly-Z Plus irons....anyone still using theirs???
Interested in a set of Mizuno MP64 with X flex Nippon SPB?

[mrbluu]

Interested in a set of Mizuno MP64 with X flex Nippon SPB?
Thanks Steve, it's cobra this month. Check in with me next month 😂😂

[Steve57]

Ok will do! :lol:

[Daves]

I'm getting bored so thinking of new set of irons and thinking of the Cobra Fly-Z Plus irons....anyone still using theirs???

The Fly Zs and Fly Z Pros are brilliant, so I can't see why the +s wouldn't perform as well.

[mrbluu]

The Fly Zs and Fly Z Pros are brilliant, so I can't see why the +s wouldn't perform as well.
I'm thinking the same way Dave. Ingot the ACP at the moment but might need something more chopper friendly. 😆

[benno_r]

I'm thinking the same way Dave. Ingot the ACP at the moment but might need something more chopper friendly. 

You realise the Fly-z+ have a bigger head than the ACP? Might effect wind resistance and lower RPM for sustained helicoptor flight.

[mrbluu]

You realise the Fly-z+ have a bigger head than the ACP? Might effect wind resistance and lower RPM for sustained helicoptor flight.
Not if u sidearm them properly!!!

[backintheswing]

You realise the Fly-z+ have a bigger head than the ACP? Might effect wind resistance and lower RPM for sustained helicoptor flight.

Or, they may soar like an airbus