JDM gear is so much better.

[Coldtopper]

JDM gear v the rest.
I recently purchased a few sets of Yamaha tours that are both Endo s20c forged. Much has been written on Ozgolf and other other sites about that butter feel is crap. Well if anyone wants to disagree firstly hit an Endo s20c forged club for yourself and feel the difference. (Yes most golfers who can play. Play on feel btw swing gurus). Chip shots around the greens feel like the ball is melting in the face. It may just be the x milling faces on the Yamaha’s. Even compared to Miura grinds these Yamahas feel so soft. I have hit other Endo s20c forged clubs and the only set that comes close is the PRGR Nabala Tours. Mid iron shots stick and the feel off the club is soft as with little vibrations in the hands at impact. (Not shaft btw) The short irons ooze hit me at the target and when struck these things stick the sound at impact is seriously good. The balance and quality in these clubs are fantastic. On dead weighting the club heads (Sorry Chappy I pulled the clubs apart and then rebuilt them again just to make sure) I found the weight of each head to be that as stipulated in the specs. Not something I have ever seen on a OEM set. Worth every dollar Imho are s20c forged clubs if you like BUTTER like feeling clubs. The Endo Japan quality process is so far superior that of the Chinese manufactured junk that is filled in Golf shops everywhere. Don’t get me going on shaft manufactures all I can say is if you swing at 110 and are using a 20 - 30t shaft like most do it’s a fluke that the ball flies straight. ( Typical golf shafts are around 24t or 30t, the measurement of tensile strength) Give a decent quality 50 - 80t shaft a go before bagging or disagreeing with this and make sure the shaft is designed for your swing type. Anyone who plays JDM gear will agree and those who don’t well good luck in finding decent clubs. BTW there is also crap JDM gear so be careful when purchasing.

[Dangals]

Dibs ;)

[Webster]

Bargain

[Captain Nemo]

To technical and accurate for me, ill give it a miss.... :)

[Johnny Canuck]

33946

[Coldtopper]

What I dont understand is at $250 a iron and $800 a shaft expensive ? Considering I can recall spending $1500 on a set of pings in the 80's. And how much was a set of McGregors worth in the day? You get what you pay for and quality isnt cheap although based on cpi JDM golf clubs are BARGAINS from a few decades ago! Its players like Jack would get the most out of a high quality gear and who knows Titty your days PPGL could be over if you gave it a go. A quick google on 80t shafts rebounding may help with your slider?

[Captain Nemo]

What I dont understand is at $250 a iron and $800 a shaft expensive ? Considering I can recall spending $1500 on a set of pings in the 80's. And how much was a set of McGregors worth in the day? You get what you pay for and quality isnt cheap although based on cpi JDM golf clubs are BARGAINS from a few decades ago! Its players like Jack would get the most out of a high quality gear and who knows Titty your days PPGL could be over if you gave it a go. A quick google on 80t shafts rebounding may help with your slider?

Hahahahaha, I've never bought a single item off them, and only paid 1/2 price for my initial fitting!
:)

[Yossarian]

http://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.php/34331-JDM?highlight=

I to enjoy Japanese Dance Music.

[yoyo]

JDM gear?

I want it that way.....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBGFA_fOoQ

[Coldtopper]

Sorry my confusion wrong forum

[benno_r]

So, the important question:

You selling the yammy CB's?

[Webster]

BTW there is also crap JDM gear so be careful when purchasing.

I can't believe it's not BUTTER?

[Coldtopper]

So, the important question:

You selling the yammy CB's?not this week. There is a few on yahoo.jp atm jauce.com

[Coldtopper]

I can't believe it's not BUTTER?obviously not a thread for a guy who haggles over buying a 100 driver then and that's ok.

[Webster]

obviously not a thread for a guy who haggles over buying a 100 driver then and that's ok.

$100 posted? PM sent.

[oldracer]

Might have to have a "butter off" CT, yammy v miura

[meh]

obviously not a thread for a guy who haggles over buying a 100 driver then and that's ok.

I thought you might have said not for a guy who thinks ping eye 2's are the best irons ever made.

[Coldtopper]

I thought you might have said not for a guy who thinks ping eye 2's are the best irons ever made.
Still do think that the Eye 2 wedges are the best ever made but wouldn't use one today.

[Webster]

Gold.

[Coldtopper]

Might have to have a "butter off" CT, yammy v miura Buy a new set of OnOff Kuro's please OR.. Did anyone notice how sets of Mirua's being used by players in the recent father / son challenge? Interesting when players who no longer have equipment contracts choose to play.

[Webster]

Did anyone notice how sets of Mirua's being used by players in the recent father / son challenge?

http://makeameme.org/media/created/jdm-jdm-everywhere.jpg

[JADO75]

Pretty sure Miura is French for father

[meh]

Still do think that the Eye 2 wedges are the best ever made but wouldn't use one today.

That makes a lot of sense.

[Coldtopper]

That makes a lot of sense. Thread topic is JDM and not what I think is the best wedge ever made. Got a question or statement or want to debate thread topic or are you just being a flog?

[meh]

Thread topic is JDM and not what I think is the best wedge ever made. Got a question or statement or want to debate thread topic or are you just being a flog?

I would have thougt crapping on about how great you are because you play JDM would have pretty much said who the flog was.

[Webster]

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c510b05bacc170f1c05b175c30604853f86655e2f4ba5387e2 5deb6808fab2d4.jpg

[oldracer]

Buy a new set of OnOff Kuro's please OR.. Did anyone notice how sets of Mirua's being used by players in the recent father / son challenge? Interesting when players who no longer have equipment contracts choose to play.yep saw that, some nice pics of CB57 on golfwrx

[spanner039]

I would have thougt crapping on about how great you are because you play JDM would have pretty much said who the flog was.

I must have read a different post.

Did you actually read it?

[meh]

I must have read a different post.

Did you actually read it?

You must have.

[Coldtopper]

yep saw that, some nice pics of CB57 on golfwrx. Tokyo is on my list this year. Onoff are the weapons this year Imo the Shingo driver looks serious btw.

[Coldtopper]

I would have thougt crapping on about how great you are because you play JDM would have pretty much said who the flog was. This thread is about JDM so if you havent got anything to contribute then "piss off"....

[meh]

This thread is about JDM so if you havent got anything to contribute then "piss off"....

Your thread is a massive wank, how is that for a contribution?

[D22marshall]

Love a good wank

[PeteyD]

Keep it civil lads.

[Coldtopper]

Love a good wank is there a place for all the jdm wankers on ozgolf. Sort of have issues with the commercialism of the jdm sites.

[sms316]

Is there a handicap limit for using Jap gear? This thread is up there with the crap golfers using tour equipment thread.

[Coldtopper]

Is there a handicap limit for using Jap gear? This thread is up there with the crap golfers using tour equipment thread. How was the holidays? kids well?l boot camp going well or have you given that up? Great to see you back safe and well and full of new excitement in 2015?

[Webster]

is there a place for all the jdm wankers on ozgolf.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/3OBD/noob-jdm/image.jpg

[Coldtopper]

Great stuff is that as good as you have? Ease up young fellow

[yoyo]

http://i58.tinypic.com/24e2c1l.jpg

[Webster]

He not mad he evil...

http://memecrunch.com/meme/I9VI/jdm/image.png

[Coldtopper]

Your a legend Jack ! Well done and best of luck with the healing.

[talbo]

What year are your CBs? What would you compare the head size to and how do you rate the turf interaction?

[petethepilot]

This has been tried before here CT. You are wasting your time...or trolling!

Best to discover www.tourspecgolf.com

Regards,
Pete

P.S. JDM gear is not for everybody and does not have an edge in performance! Quality of manufacture is much superior though...and I have had plenty of JDM!!

[Coldtopper]

This has been tried before here CT. You are wasting your time...or trolling!

Best to discover www.tourspecgolf.com

Regards,
Pete

P.S. JDM gear is not for everybody and does not have an edge in performance! Quality of manufacture is much superior though...and I have had plenty of JDM!! Thanks Pete only needed Rubin to chime in for the quaddie today. Back on topic bad thread choice agree 100%.

[Coldtopper]

This has been tried before here CT. You are wasting your time...or trolling!

Best to discover www.tourspecgolf.com (http://www.tourspecgolf.com)

Regards,
Pete

P.S. JDM gear is not for everybody and does not have an edge in performance! Quality of manufacture is much superior though...and I have had plenty of JDM!! so then Jdm gear is much better then. As imperfections in the manufacturing processes of oem gear is inconsistent and these imperfections lead to poor performance then JDM gear is so much better? As you know because you had plenty is this correct?

[petethepilot]

CT, I think the better player can benefit from the quality of manufacture and the tolerances but it is hard to better the R&D that the big manufacturers have! My SLDR driver is built like shit compared to some JDM drivers I have had but it goes like a cannon! The Japs do shafts and blades better than anyone. You need to get fitted and understand your swing and flight chatacteristics but the feel and stability of the top end JDM shafts are second to none! The bucks involved are eye watering in top end shafts so it does not pay to buy stuff on a whim!
Just my thoughts!

[Johnny Canuck]

Pretty sure Miura is French for father

It is definitely Dutch for Faja.

33957

[3oneday]

My Topflites are endo forged.


No, seriously. When I flush a Toppy you just can't feel it.


Bought a back-up SET, change out of a hungee, now that's a BARGAIN !

GLWS.

[JADO75]

Thank Christ I haven't gotten into JDM...........yet

[petethepilot]

Jado,
My Basileus Driver shaft is $700US new! I didn't pay that but you don't want to go there unless you are seriously obsessed...!

[oldracer]

I liken it to motor vehicles, they all get you from A-B, just depends at what level you want to travel and how much you want to pay for the trip.

[Hatchman]

The world of JDM is an interesting one.
There is interesting unique stuff to be tried.
A lot of it is a leap of faith as there is very few opportunities to look, touch and try in person.
The high cost makes it more difficult to test and try a number of different brands and combos.

As for JDM being SO much better than every thing else? I have tried and are currently gaming some JDM clubs in my bag. There are others I'd like to try. Are these clubs so much better than than the mass produced big brands.? The gap is relatively small not huge.

[oldracer]

I also think it's about how you "feel" when using the product of choice, the performance gap may be small but feeling great about your equipment adds a few notches in confidence.

[Hatchman]

I also think it's about how you "feel" when using the product of choice, the performance gap may be small but feeling great about your equipment adds a few notches in confidence.

Yes agree with the power of the mind when it comes to look/feel and performance.
Unless it's way off the mark in being suited to you if you really like the look of it there is a better than average chance you will play well with it.

Had this debate with with a tosser in Golf Mart Friday trying to pedal Nike gear without knowing my swing or game level.

[goonie]

On the Butter feeling topic (which has been shown to be 90+% sound) the softest irons I have hit to date are the black dot Maxfli Revolutions, no other iron has come close including, I believe, Endo forged clubs from Bridgestone and Tourstage, or Titleist and a set Muira's.

[Coldtopper]

Thank Christ I haven't gotten into JDM...........yet Thats why you should try a 80t shaft in Crazy or Trpx or even a 50t shaft in your appropriate flex.

[Ferrins]

I have had a fair bit of JDM gear and tend to find it too hard to hit. A Romero driver and a Yonex driving iron were impossible for me.

[markTHEblake]

The only way to know if the irons are softer is to belt them with a cast iron hammer.

It's impossible for a human to detect the difference in the iron head metals from the collision with a golf ball which is hundreds of times softer. What YOU think you are feeling is actually the sound, and clearly product quality can effect the sound. Blind tests with different metal heads and wearing ear plugs has proven this already. If anyone doubts go get some genuine ear plugs and hit balls, it will feel like crap.

P.s, I have JDM gear.

[yoyo]

JDM ear plugs ?

[FuzzyJuzzy]

The only way to know if the irons are softer is to belt them with a cast iron hammer.

It's impossible for a human to detect the difference in the iron head metals from the collision with a golf ball which is hundreds of times softer. What YOU think you are feeling is actually the sound, and clearly product quality can effect the sound. Blind tests with different metal heads and wearing ear plugs has proven this already. If anyone doubts go get some genuine ear plugs and hit balls, it will feel like crap.

P.s, I have JDM gear.

Sounds like the words of a wise man. Not that I've ever owned any JDM gear, but well said MTB.

[petethepilot]

He'll Blakey,
Old and Wise! :)

[petethepilot]

Hell Blakey,
Old and Wise! :)

[Icestorm959]

Jado,My Basileus Driver shaft is $700US new! I didn't pay that but you don't want to go there unless you are seriously obsessed...! Dibs!!! On a serious note, dont know who forges the Tourstage x1000s but the best feeling clubs Ive ever hit.My Miuras are great irons too, though noticeably not as "buttery".What are the crap JDM gear CT? Would be good to know given the $$$ involved.

[petethepilot]

The Japs do some weird shapes with wedges IMHO.

For JDM info, pm Supo! He lives up there and owns/owned it all.

[3oneday]

This better yet?

[mrbluu]

JDM ear plugs ?
He can't tell cos the sound is muted [emoji12]

For me the JDM blade irons look the business. Would love to try a set but don't have the game or the money for them. Might buy a set of jdm wedges eventually but they seem to have the loft and bounce combos I like to use.

No real interest in the drivers or fw.

GLWT fellas.

[Peppas]

I need some wedge heads

Someone told me i should get some JDM as I will be able to spin it inside people.

Is this true?

[Jarro]

Get some Srixons instead .... they're super spinny !!

[thecollective]

The new Mizuno MP-5's spin it plenty!

+ they are Japanese so for 1/2 the price of some exotic JDM brand you get the best of both worlds!

TC

[Peppas]

The new Mizuno MP-5's spin it plenty!

+ they are Japanese so for 1/2 the price of some exotic JDM brand you get the best of both worlds!

TC

Awesome, maybe I will get these for my wedge shafts I have!

[thecollective]

Luke Donald uses the MP-5 and help design it. At Sun City he spun it off the green (from landing it on the back) on 2 occasions during the second round.

For the first time in a while I am getting back stop on my 50-75 pitches.

TC

[Peppas]

Luke Donald uses the MP-5 and help design it. At Sun City he spun it off the green (from landing it on the back) on 2 occasions during the second round.

For the first time in a while I am getting back stop on my 50-75 pitches.

TC

Sell me yours buddy.

I'll pay $10 extra if you send it down with a box of kitcheners? :)

[thecollective]

wrong side of the club champ (southpaw)

plus I got my 58/4 (custom bounce) for a steal out of GB screwing up their website.

TC

[Peppas]

wrong side of the club champ (southpaw)

plus I got my 58/4 (custom bounce) for a steal out of GB screwing up their website.

TC

I'll learn lefty if I get a box of kitcheners

Wow the things I would do for a box of kitcheners... ;)

[crayon]

For many years I have resisted the lure of JDM clubs. This was partly because the snob in me could not bear to have me join the ranks of old farts that used a 5 iron labelled as a 7 iron. Real players used Titleist. The other was cost.

2 years ago, I happened to hit my buddy's Epon 302 6 iron and that feeling of hitting it flush is incredible. For the first time, I Then I hit his Muira wedges and discovered the softness that forged wedge provide in feedback, which translates to better distance control. I went on a tear, and bought a full set of RomaRo Ray H irons and wedges and driver and then a Ryoma D1 driver and F2, F3, F5 fairway woods. It was a come out party. I was a JDM convert and damn proud of it.

After the initial honeymoon, I started realizing that the irons were too tough for my ball striking ability and I changed to a set of Bridgestone j40.The wedges stuck in the bag and were only upgraded to the newer IS sole version. These wedges were simply awesome on the soft conditions that I play in Singapore; their thick fat soles prevent digging and I really relish the opportunity to hit these after a well struck drive. And the Ryoma D1 provided some crazy drives. Till date, it has been the 2nd most consistent and one of the longest drivers I have ever tested. Some of my longest drive on this driver allowed for a 6 or 7 iron approaches onto short par 5s (430m??) Meanwhile my friends also saw similar gains on their distances when they became properly fit on their JDM drivers.

The main advantage of JDM equipment for me is that they suit my physique and swing better than a set of clubs that was designed for a bloke like Adam Scott. I suppose I could have been properly fit for the equipment made by the traditional brands but there is a difference in the overall quality that JDM clubs offer. Better quality control translates to consistent results.

[Icestorm959]

What shaft do you use on the Ryoma D1?

[thecollective]

crayon: how much benefit psychologically do you feel when using a JDM club compared to a normal western based brand.

I just wonder how much of this is down to the fact that the investment paid must match the enthusiasm for the improved performance - no matter how small the margin is.

If I handed you my Dom White wedges, removed all the branding and said it was JDM I reckon I could convince you (they are butter soft and built brilliantly). Reality is I paid $35 from Grays Auctions for my brand new Macgregor DW 60 degree.

Food for thought.

TC

[oldracer]

Not being picky TC but I think it' Don White, you are probably correct, put a Beemer driver in a new Kia or Genesis and tell them it's a new BMW and they would possibly believe you, however, I play my stuff because it's reasonably unique, love the look of the top line and feel great with it in the bag! Might give me a couple of strokes a round, who knows, I would probably knock 10 of my cap playing GI irons but it ain't the same.

[Daves]

Not being picky TC but I think it' Don White, you are probably correct, put a Beemer driver in a new Kia or Genesis and tell them it's a new BMW and they would possibly believe you, however, I play my stuff because it's reasonably unique, love the look of the top line and feel great with it in the bag! Might give me a couple of strokes a round, who knows, I would probably knock 10 of my cap playing GI irons but it ain't the same.

I can assure you that anyone who has owned a Beemer, Merc, Audi etc would pick a Korean want to be a mile away. Not even on the same playing field.

[Icestorm959]

Yep. If you floor the acceleration you will find out VERY QUICKLY whether the car you're driving is German or Korean - a massive, massive world of difference.

[crayon]

What shaft do you use on the Ryoma D1?

I had a UST Mamiya 4U 6 X Stiff on it, which work way better than the 6 Stiff I had on it

[aym]

This thread title should be changed to expensive stuff is better than cheaper stuff and makes you feel more superior.

[crayon]

crayon: how much benefit psychologically do you feel when using a JDM club compared to a normal western based brand.

I just wonder how much of this is down to the fact that the investment paid must match the enthusiasm for the improved performance - no matter how small the margin is.

If I handed you my Dom White wedges, removed all the branding and said it was JDM I reckon I could convince you (they are butter soft and built brilliantly). Reality is I paid $35 from Grays Auctions for my brand new Macgregor DW 60 degree.

Food for thought.

TC

I did not choose wedges based on the feel element alone. If I did, the Epons or the Muiras would have won out.

The RomaRo wedges I use are oversized and has a thick fat sole, in fact, they were as thick as the Taylormade ATV wedges I was using after I switched from my Vokeys.

[oldracer]

This thread title should be changed to expensive stuff is better than cheaper stuff and makes you feel more superior.mmm interesting concept, not sure superior ever entered my head and to be absolutely frank, price to me has nothing to do with it, if I had of been introduced to Titty or Mizzy CB's or MB's at the time I was looking around, I would probably be bagging (in the bag) their gear, I wasn't and liked what I found on line, the more I think about it, don't give me this cr@p about cheap and expensive, to me that's not where it's at

[oldracer]

I can assure you that anyone who has owned a Beemer, Merc, Audi etc would pick a Korean want to be a mile away. Not even on the same playing field.that's what we all thought about Honda Dave, now Lexus next the world!!!!!

[yoyo]

I can assure you that anyone who has owned a Beemer, Merc, Audi etc would pick a Korean want to be a mile away. Not even on the same playing field.

i wouldnt even need to do that. i drive a BMW but travel alot for work, so drive the full gammut of rental cars. you can tell a korean car as soon as you open the door. i could pick them blindfolded.

[aym]

mmm interesting concept, not sure superior ever entered my head and to be absolutely frank, price to me has nothing to do with it, if I had of been introduced to Titty or Mizzy CB's or MB's at the time I was looking around, I would probably be bagging (in the bag) their gear, I wasn't and liked what I found on line, the more I think about it, don't give me this cr@p about cheap and expensive, to me that's not where it's at

Price has everything to do with it...

A JDM driver cost over 1000$ new, a set of irons cost over 3000$, reason? because the endo forging process that you guys have been bragging and promoting about cost more.. labour in Japan cost more.. reason for the cost = better quality tolerances in the QA process.

IF adidas decided they want to sell 1000$ dollar drivers and play in the JDM market, I'd give Yamaha 3 months before they stop making golf clubs.. Give Miura 1 month..

a US company can build the same Endo forging plant in China, in NY, in LA, anywhere they want, but they choose not to due to the market they are targeting, so when you pull down the BS about JDM superiority it's cost.

I swear by European cars, I wouldn't touch a Japanese car with a 10 foot pole, I used to work for Toyota R & D, it's not that Toyota can't make high quality well built cars that uses Belgium cows that lives above 3000 feet, it's cause they choose not to compete in the same market as the European cars.

So all this JDM gear is so much better, is easily summarised by more expensive gear is so much better..

[aym]

that's what we all thought about Honda Dave, now Lexus next the world!!!!!

Toyota creating Lexus to compete in the US market is like if Taylormade ever wanted to compete with JDM in Japan.

[backintheswing]

Toyota creating Lexus to compete in the US market is like if Taylormade ever wanted to compete with JDM in Japan.

So is my TM JAP issue SLDR 430, I just bought, a waste of money?

[Daves]

that's what we all thought about Honda Dave, now Lexus next the world!!!!!

Lexus?, you are kidding! the ultimate want to be's! Well built yes, but absolutely no driving dynamics, character or appeal. I hate Toyotas with a passion, Lexus are still just trumped up want to be's. And Honda lost their way a long time ago; bland, characterless, clones is all they produce these days.

[coalesce]

They're sex people!

[freddy a]

Toyota creating Lexus to compete in the US market is like if Taylormade ever wanted to compete with JDM in Japan.

Tm already make clubs specifically for the Japanese market, so do titleist, Nike and callaway.

[freddy a]

As some of u who know me well know I love JDM clubs for the simple fact that I do believe the quality of the build is superior. Some of u may know what I used to do for work and I had access to any of the major U.S. brands that I wanted at cost less 30% to 50% even with that I still choose to buy jdm clubs.
Every time I built a set of jdm irons I never have to use lead tips to get the proper swing weight it's because the head weight are so precise from 4 to pw. Every time I build a set of US irons I have to use lead tips on nearly every iron and that's using the same shaft tt tour concepts at the same length 38inch 5 iron. Even when I special ordered a set of pings from wrx I asked them to built them at d4 on every iron I got my set and swing weights varied from c9 to d3 not one of the irons was built to my desired sw.

[aym]

Tm already make clubs specifically for the Japanese market, so do titleist, Nike and callaway.

I am more talking about competing against this premium line of JDM the thread is referring to, what's the difference in Titleist/nike/cally JDM product vs US market produces? Assuming Cally Legacy line is a more premium line than US callaways?


So is my TM JAP issue SLDR 430, I just bought, a waste of money?

Think you've missed my point...


As some of u who know me well know I love JDM clubs for the simple fact that I do believe the quality of the build is superior. Some of u may know what I used to do for work and I had access to any of the major U.S. brands that I wanted at cost less 30% to 50% even with that I still choose to buy jdm clubs.

And I have no doubt about it... and thats why I suggested the title should be renamed to more expensive product vs cheaper product... It's not about JDM vs USDM, it's manufacturing cost vs purchase price..

[freddy a]

[QUOTE=aym;1181527]I am more talking about competing against this premium line of JDM the thread is referring to, what's the difference in Titleist/nike/cally JDM product vs US market produces? Assuming Cally Legacy line is a more premium line than US callaways?

ColdTopper Yamaha irons he was referring to would cost around the same money as JDM TM, Titleist, Callaway irons and are not considered the bees knees but still built very tight tolerances, Premium lines in JDM would be Crazy, Modart, Honma Twin Marks and Baldo to name a few and I think those lines are totally over priced for what they are.
The main difference between US Nike, Callaway etc vs JDM of the same brand is generally the irons are forged whether its a GI or Players iron and there is use of more exotic material in the design and as far as the woods they are built with tighter tolerances which means you order a 10deg driver you get a 10deg driver and the COR is close as to the legal limit 0.83 on nearly every head.

[markTHEblake]

The main advantage of JDM equipment for me is that they suit my physique and swing better than a set of clubs that was designed for a bloke like Adam Scott. I am not built like Adam Scott either, what is it about the design of Japanese clubs that suits us little short blokes?

[aym]

I am not built like Adam Scott either, what is it about the design of Japanese clubs that suits us little short blokes?

I heard that Asian spec (not just JDM) shafts a half to a flex softer due to general population to be of a smaller build.

My father in law was given a set of Asian spec Cally legacy in regular graphite and it felt like senior flex.

[markTHEblake]

I heard that Asian spec (not just JDM) shafts a half to a flex softer due to general population to be of a smaller build. That's not a design feature.

[backintheswing]

The lie angle of my JDM Sldr appears to be about 3* flatter than the same Sldr 430 tour issue.

[oldracer]

The lie angle of my JDM Sldr appears to be about 3* flatter than the same Sldr 430 tour issue.:lol:

[backintheswing]

I am actually being serious about the lie angle.

I was joking about the jdm Sldr being worth nothing, but no-one got the joke.

[timah!]

I am actually being serious about the lie angle.

I was joking about the jdm Sldr being worth nothing, but no-one got the joke.

I got it. I just didn't feel it needed to be said...again ;)

Anyway, is this the wank factor thread?

[3Puttpete]

I got it. I just didn't feel it needed to be said...again ;)

Anyway, is this the wank factor thread?

That's this thread

http://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.php?t=19712

[emoji12]

[mrbluu]

That's this thread

http://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.php?t=19712

[emoji12]
Oh SNAP!!!

[Icestorm959]

Tell me this isn't the sexiest looking driver that Taylormade has EVER put out:

http://cdn.tourspecgolf.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/st217_hero_wide_d.jpg

[mrbluu]

Tell me this isn't the sexiest looking driver that Taylormade has EVER put out:

http://cdn.tourspecgolf.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/st217_hero_wide_d.jpg

Ok, it's not!!!

[Icestorm959]

Ok, it's not!!! 😖

[Dotty]

I would have called the 'Speed Pocket' something else.

[3oneday]

Yep, fugly.

[Yossarian]

Tell me this isn't the sexiest looking driver that Taylormade has EVER put out:

http://cdn.tourspecgolf.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/st217_hero_wide_d.jpg

It is a piece of metal, graphite and whatever on a piece of graphite. It is not sexy.

[Eca]

Funny.. my TM R360 ti with grafalloy early 2000 was nearly $900 & my whole TM Bag with cast burner tour irons (O'meara major) was over 3k.

So if you are using a titty dci & decided to upgrade to AP2 with PX new @ $180 a pop, & perhaps upgrade your bubble burner driver to an SLDR head & new DI shaft, thats all good. And what's the point of upgrading when the Car is still getting you from A to B? Could it be performance related, brainwashed by the ads? Nontheless its all good, it's your money, enjoy your new toy.
Heaven forbid if you went JDMs though. If buying new & current model, if you buy for functionality rather than bling ie great grinds they have of late with irons, I doubt they are really much more. My last usdm s3 pros i ordered, i struggled, had specs checked, some of the longer irons where more upright than the shorter ones & lofts all over the place like two irons 8 &9 almost same loft etc. Great irons once sorted. But it cost more time & $.
Then if you do decide to sell JDMs.. well as long as you don't sell them here :)

Use what you want, ho & updrade as much as you want whatever 'DM' you prefer.
Happy golfing!

[talbo]

Funny.. my TM R360 ti with grafalloy early 2000 was nearly $900 & my whole TM Bag with cast burner tour irons (O'meara major) was over 3k.

So if you are using a titty dci & decided to upgrade to AP2 with PX new @ $180 a pop, & perhaps upgrade your bubble burner driver to an SLDR head & new DI shaft, thats all good. And what's the point of upgrading when the Car is still getting you from A to B? Could it be performance related, brainwashed by the ads? Nontheless its all good, it's your money, enjoy your new toy.
Heaven forbid if you went JDMs though. If buying new & current model, if you buy for functionality rather than bling ie great grinds they have of late with irons, I doubt they are really much more. My last usdm s3 pros i ordered, i struggled, had specs checked, some of the longer irons where more upright than the shorter ones & lofts all over the place like two irons 8 &9 almost same loft etc. Great irons once sorted. But it cost more time & $.
Then if you do decide to sell JDMs.. well as long as you don't sell them here :)

Use what you want, ho & updrade as much as you want whatever 'DM' you prefer.
Happy golfing!

Pretty much sums it up. Play and pay what you want, not sure why some get themselves concerned with what others choose to buy/game!

[meh]

Talbo, I agree with what you say. I am not concerned with what stuff people want to play at all. It irked me that someone wants to say how much better there gear is when maybe 1% of people on here are good enough to notice any discernible difference.

[talbo]

I think if you've got a spare $1.2K and buy a JDM driver and it gives the owner more confidence and makes them feel like they have superior equipment then it's $1.2K well spent in my book and vise versa on a $50 DM driver.

[Icestorm959]

Tbf my $60 JDM driver is brilliant and the best of both worlds :D

[aym]

Talbo, I agree with what you say. I am not concerned with what stuff people want to play at all. It irked me that someone wants to say how much better there gear is when maybe 1% of people on here are good enough to notice any discernible difference.

+1

But then again people who play golf think they are the coolest people on the planet... as soon as they step out the front gate of a golf course they just become the most anal people on the planet (with respect to golf).

[thecollective]

I think if you've got a spare $1.2K and buy a JDM driver and it gives the owner more confidence and makes them feel like they have superior equipment then it's $1.2K well spent in my book and vise versa on a $50 DM driver.

Precisely my point! the question is - how much more confidence do you need to have to pay 3 fold on an everyday tour spec driver.

Willingness to pay levels in Japan differ greatly to the Western world - after all golf is only for the upper class in Japan.

TC

[Eca]

+1

But then again people who play golf think they are the coolest people on the planet... as soon as they step out the front gate of a golf course they just become the most anal people on the planet (with respect to golf).

I have seen a few but a minority in my neck of the woods. Met a few ozgolfers in the last few months & they've all been great company so far :)

[3oneday]

+1

But then again people who play golf think they are the coolest people on the planet... as soon as they step out the front gate of a golf course they just become the most anal people on the planet (with respect to golf).surfers are cool, people off plus handicaps are generally riding the I'm cool wave.

That's pretty where it stops in my experience.

[live4golf]

I would have called the 'Speed Pocket' something else.

Gloire Hole?

[benno_r]

Gloire Hole?

Excellent!

[Johnny Canuck]

I think if you've got a spare $1.2K and buy a JDM driver and it gives the owner more confidence and makes them feel like they have superior equipment then it's $1.2K well spent in my book and vise versa on a $50 DM driver.

That confidence wears off pretty quickly and the honeymoon phase ends with a couple deep in the kack.

[talbo]

+1

But then again people who play golf think they are the coolest people on the planet... as soon as they step out the front gate of a golf course they just become the most anal people on the planet (with respect to golf).

So many golfers are class 'a' certified wankers, no doubt about it.


Precisely my point! the question is - how much more confidence do you need to have to pay 3 fold on an everyday tour spec driver.

Willingness to pay levels in Japan differ greatly to the Western world - after all golf is only for the upper class in Japan.

TC

Indeed. But my point is, who cares what someone else spends and then bags? I know I don't!


That confidence wears off pretty quickly and the honeymoon phase ends with a couple deep in the kack.

Absolutely :lol:

Then it's back to the www to look for a new toy.....

[aym]

Precisely my point! the question is - how much more confidence do you need to have to pay 3 fold on an everyday tour spec driver.

Willingness to pay levels in Japan differ greatly to the Western world - after all golf is only for the upper class in Japan.

TC

Also people in Japan don't bargain, and their are insanely patriotic ... If we supported our golf industry as much as them, Perth Forging will be the bee knees of golf club forging, endo will be selling clubs out of Daiso ..

[benno_r]

Also people in Japan don't bargain, and their are insanely patriotic ... If we supported our golf industry as much as them, Perth Forging will be the bee knees of golf club forging, endo will be selling clubs out of Daiso ..

A general question to the gurus - did Australia ever have a local golf forging house?

[Daves]

A general question to the gurus - did Australia ever have a local golf forging house?

Yep, PGF, and I think there may have been another one, but the Brand name escapes me.

[markTHEblake]

PGF in its heyday was recognised as been amongst the elite manufacturers worldwide.
Other brands like slazenger Spalding Dunlop were popular brands but I am not sure how australian they were, but in the 70's it was quite rare to have foreign made clubs

Go back to the 60's there were scores of brands, club pros would have their own names on them. Someone in Australia had to be making them all.

[oldracer]

I think my dad worked at Slazenger/spalding not sure in Braybrook in the late 40's and from memory he said they made clubs and balls there

[Ferrins]

I love WinWin Style gear.