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BUSHY
15th December 2014, 01:23 PM
I'm a bit of a stats freak. Love them, I think they can help my game especially now that I have a second child and my practice time will be limited.

I've used golfshot, ShotsToHole.com, Excel spreadsheets and a plethora of other less adept apps but during 2015 I'm going to use GRGS- Get Real Golf Stats. An Australian developed program that uses an app for input and a simple to use website for looking at your data. Actually you could do it all on the app, the screenshots I'll add here are all from the app. They've just signed a deal with the LPGA and already have an affiliation with numerous golf programs in both Australia and the US. I got a Platinum subscription during the black Friday sales for something like $30.

I started 2014 playing off about 4-5 but I believed I was heading lower based the consistency of my game at the time. I changed irons to a chunkier head than I was used to (Covert Forged) thinking that some forgiveness would get me closer to scratch which was my initial goal. In reality I went the other direction (anchored on 10). I'm only thinking that the irons are the main reason for my slide because as soon as I went back to smaller headed 'unforgiving' irons my scores immediately dropped and I shot a 73, 74 and 75 in a two week period.

Anyway this isn't about blades v cavity backs but is more of a journal to try and quantify a change in my game. I'm going to read more classic golf books this year, plus read "Every Shot Counts" by Mark Broadie and see where I end up in 12 months time. I've got two competitive games left this year but to this point my stats are as follows.

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BUSHY
15th December 2014, 01:24 PM
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BUSHY
15th December 2014, 01:25 PM
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BUSHY
15th December 2014, 01:26 PM
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BUSHY
15th December 2014, 01:28 PM
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Courty
15th December 2014, 04:50 PM
Looks pretty comprehensive. Do you have to enter the length of each putt manually?

BUSHY
15th December 2014, 05:16 PM
Yeah. It's surprisingly easy once you get the hang of it. The app is like following the bouncing ball. Once you select where you took the shot from it just asks for the distance and the club. The distance is how far to the target. Really easy to follow and there is a free version too if you want to have a play with it. Below is the process.

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Courty
15th December 2014, 05:19 PM
OK, I might check it out. I don't suppose it does metric?

BUSHY
15th December 2014, 05:23 PM
Certainly does. You can do metric full shots and feet on the green or whatever combo you want.

Courty
15th December 2014, 05:28 PM
Certainly does. You can do metric full shots and feet on the green or whatever combo you want.

Sweet. Downloading now.

jimandr
16th December 2014, 09:27 AM
Oh, Bushy. What have you started?

Obviously you need more rounds to make the data meaningful, but I foresee a need for a sub-forum just to cater for Ozgolfers who do their stats like this.

I'm not tech minded and I couldn't possibly do what you did, but my handicap is almost exactly the same as yours, so I might have a go at parts of this for the next six rounds just to see what comes out.

One thing that probably doesn't affect you, but it does affect me, is how a stats program would deal with par 4's that the player (me) cannot reach in two. Would it just record it as short? My other problem in that respect is that at my home course there is a hole where I cannot clear the front bunker and hold the green, so I often lay up to the front lefthand edge of that green. Doing things like that will surely affect the integrity of the information.

It all sounds like fun though.

BUSHY
16th December 2014, 02:20 PM
Oh, Bushy. What have you started?

Obviously you need more rounds to make the data meaningful, but I foresee a need for a sub-forum just to cater for Ozgolfers who do their stats like this.

I'm not tech minded and I couldn't possibly do what you did, but my handicap is almost exactly the same as yours, so I might have a go at parts of this for the next six rounds just to see what comes out.

One thing that probably doesn't affect you, but it does affect me, is how a stats program would deal with par 4's that the player (me) cannot reach in two. Would it just record it as short? My other problem in that respect is that at my home course there is a hole where I cannot clear the front bunker and hold the green, so I often lay up to the front lefthand edge of that green. Doing things like that will surely affect the integrity of the information.

It all sounds like fun though.

Ok, definitely require more rounds to be as useful as it's intended. The best thing is you can create a stats log filtered to measure what you want. If you only want certain courses or certain pars courses that's fine. You can also filter it for conditions such as humid hot cold windy wet and also for the types of greens ie Bermuda, bent etc and speeds as in slow med fast very fast.
So if I want to see how I went at Cairns only on wet days when the greens were fast, it will let me filter that.

See below.

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With regards to not reaching par 4's, when you input your shot for a lay up you simply select "Hit Fairway" which excludes the shot from GIR calculations. You can do that for 3's 4's and 5's.
So if your target is the green and you miss that's the square you input. If you lay up for the fairway and you hit it then you input "Hit Fairway", similarly if you lay up and miss the fairway you press that box.

Once you download and have a play at home just simulating a round you can see how quick and easy it is. Just follow the bouncing ball so to speak.

BUSHY
20th December 2014, 06:02 AM
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Courty
20th December 2014, 01:16 PM
I downloaded it and set it up but forgot all about it this morning. Probably not much point given the way I played. :-s

hippo10
20th December 2014, 02:59 PM
I downloaded it and set it up but forgot all about it this morning. Probably not much point given the way I played. :-sYou must of hit a reasonable shot on 8 at least... Wasn't quite good enough tho as I managed sneak one in a little closer ;-)

Courty
20th December 2014, 03:10 PM
You must of hit a reasonable shot on 8 at least... Wasn't quite good enough tho as I managed sneak one in a little closer ;-)

One of the few. :D

hippo10
20th December 2014, 04:58 PM
Unfortunately, same for me too. Think that's about the only hole I did anything...

BUSHY
21st December 2014, 12:44 PM
33635
The summary screen from yesterday. Had two bad holes, dbl on 12 and dbl on 4. Finished with 37 points. On 4 I actually made a very good downhill put to save a 6 for1 after hitting my drive in the junk on the right. Ended up in the right green side bunker and got up and down for a single point. On 12 I hit a nice big drive up 13 (my new favourite shortcut) and had a 5 iron into the green. A bit of a thin, bare lie and I chunked it into the water. Pitched it to within 6 ft and proceeded to 3 putt for a 7. Even with that wipe I came home in 20 points. My main concern is with my short game although from the fringe I've been doing well. Putting was good, I think my first sub 30 putt round for a while. More to come.
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BUSHY
21st December 2014, 12:48 PM
The remaining stats for the day.

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markTHEblake
21st December 2014, 05:26 PM
Does GRGS give stats per hole on a given course, so that we can see which hole we Solarman on the most?I just gave it a test run, with only one round recorded, seems it doesnt

BUSHY
21st December 2014, 05:30 PM
I don't think it does. Golfshot used to do something like that but it was basic.

Daves
21st December 2014, 06:10 PM
Does GRGS give stats per hole on a given course, so that we can see which hole we Solarman on the most?I just gave it a test run, with only one round recorded, seems it doesnt

Mscorecard gives you a course report that gives you best, worst and average scores on each hole for any time period.

BUSHY
22nd December 2014, 07:50 AM
It's probably easier to add the images via tapatalk. Looking at my up and down stats there are a few things that I'm taking away right now. My performance from the fringe is pretty good. I've actually be using an 8 or 9 iron to chip from the fringe and in the last two rounds I've been 100% from the fringe. I'm also hitting it closer with those clubs. Normally I'd take PW or gap wedge so there's something in learning.
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My 2 iron is definitely a fairway finder. I missed one fairway left with it but in reality it was barely off and I had a great lie. The 15th at Cairns has a Bermuda triangle of trees that I somehow ALWAYS find and once you're in there you're dead most of the time. I hit the 2 straight up the middle and to my surprise had barely a 7 iron in, about 240m off the tee. I dare say I'll be hitting the two there more often if not always. The best thing is I can also hit it high off the tee when I need it.

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Hatchman
22nd December 2014, 05:21 PM
It's probably easier to add the images via tapatalk. Looking at my up and down stats there are a few things that I'm taking away right now. My performance from the fringe is pretty good. I've actually be using an 8 or 9 iron to chip from the fringe and in the last two rounds I've been 100% from the fringe. I'm also hitting it closer with those clubs. Normally I'd take PW or gap wedge so there's something in learning.


There's a lesson in that for most if not all on here. Let the ball run on the green as much as possible.
Far too many amateurs using loft where it's not needed/required.

BUSHY
23rd December 2014, 12:12 PM
I downloaded it and set it up but forgot all about it this morning. Probably not much point given the way I played. :-s

Off topic but what did you think of the 4th and 13th? I personally would've rather waited a few more weeks. However a bit of traffic on them will do them good.

Courty
23rd December 2014, 12:36 PM
Off topic but what did you think of the 4th and 13th? I personally would've rather waited a few more weeks. However a bit of traffic on them will do them good.

They're not so bad. They'll take some time to soften up to the point were they play the same as the established greens. I'm just happy to not have to play the temps any more.

BUSHY
23rd December 2014, 12:37 PM
But 13 was a gimme birdie hole with the temp green?[emoji6]

Courty
23rd December 2014, 12:50 PM
But 13 was a gimme birdie hole with the temp green?[emoji6]

Not for me it wasn't. :oops:

I hate hoping I get a decent bounce. Too many times I've hit good shots that either land soft and stop short or get a hard kick through or off to once side.

BUSHY
23rd December 2014, 12:54 PM
Yes, agreed. I was being highly sarcastic. They do look good. Can't wait until they roll nice too.

Courty
23rd December 2014, 01:02 PM
Yes, agreed. I was being highly sarcastic. They do look good. Can't wait until they roll nice too.

I reckon they're rolling pretty nice already, just at a slightly slower pace than the rest. I made an easy 8-footer for double on 4 this morning. :)

BUSHY
23rd December 2014, 01:04 PM
Haha.

BUSHY
9th February 2015, 11:12 PM
I need a better way of sharing the stats.

I love the app and the stuff it's telling me is really helping me strategically. Unfortunately I've missed a couple of rounds but It's giving me the gist at the moment.

Screen shooting the stats is a little tedious.

jimandr
18th February 2015, 09:42 PM
Early on in this thread I said that I would do Bushy style stats for my next six rounds just to see how they compared. The six rounds are now complete, so I'll present the results.

I do not have Courty's talent with spreadsheets, or Bushy's system, so I'll just type them out and put Bushy's comparable stat in brackets.

Total Rounds 6 (6)

Par 72 (72)

Score Ave 83.66 (80.17)

Fairway Acc 63.40 (66.67)

GIR 44 (44.44)

Up/down 43 (38)

Sand Saves 30 (12.5) Small samples, mine was 3 of 10, Bushy's 1 of 8

Putts 31.16 (31.5)

Par 3 +11 (+11)

Par 4 +43 (+38)

Par 5 +14 (-1)

Low Score 81 (73)

High Score 88 (88)

Off the tee 52/82 (56/84) My misses = 19 left, 11 right. Bushy = 14 left 14 right (I think, I forgot to look this up)

At the green 46% on (44.4) 3% over (9) 8% left (10) 11% right (10) short 30% (23). Most of my short ones were mishits, not under clubbing.

Putts total = 193 (189)

1 putts = 33 (34)

3 putts = 11 (7)

Putts per GIR = 2.1 (1.89)

2 putts inside 30ft = 95.7% (96.3)

2 putts outside 30ft = 55% (71.4). For me this was 10 of 19 - pathetic, isn't it.

Ave length holed per round = 35.5 (78.5) I had a lot of tap-ins.

Putts holed under 6ft = 92 of 103, 89.3% (67 of 71, 94.37%)

Putts holed 6 to 10 = 6 of 17, 35.2% (16 of 40, 40.00%)

Putts holed 10 to 25 = 8 of 43, 18.6% (2 of 14, 14%)

Putts holed over 25 = zero of 19 (1 of 10)

3 putts under 6ft = 0 of 103 (0 of 71)

3 putts 6 to 10 = 0 of 17 (1 of 40)

3 putts 10 to 25 = 2 of 43 (1 of 14)

3 putts over 25 = 9 of 19 (2 of 10)

Some of these stats aren't quite comparable. I counted GIR as approaches to greens rather than genuine GIR. Which means if I had a chip out and then hit the green from 150 with my third, I counted that as a GIR for the purpose of this exercise.

Bushy measured his proximity to hole distances, which I decided not to do. This stat gets skewed badly by a few really bad shots. I hit a shank today from 120m that was still 70m from the green for my next. Professionals don't hit shanks (except Webb Simpson), and they don't hit duffs and skulls, and I'm not really trying to compare my game to the pro game anyway.

So, what does this all mean. The obvious thing is that I'm a crap golfer, and I'm a crap golfer at all parts of the game. My long putting is the worst of all. Bushy is a slightly better golfer than me, according to these stats, but I suspect he is actually a fair bit better, and if I continued with this exercise the stats would show this.

Did I get the results I expected? Sort of. My driving is usually more accurate than in these 6 rounds, and my putting is often worse.

So, what's the point? For me this was a bit of fun to see whether my stats matched Bushy's. For a lot of things they were pretty close, which is why we are both off high single figures. Apart from that there is no point. If I was capable of improving certain aspects of my game I would, and I don't need stats to tell me that everything is a weakness and nothing is a real strength. I could practice my long putting all day, every day, but would it get better? Maybe, but practice putting is the most boring thing in the golfing world, so I'm not going to do it.

I notice that Bushy is updating his stats in his signature. I'll keep an eye on that just for fun, but I'm not going to keep my stats any longer.

Congrats to any reader who got all the way through this dribble.

BUSHY
19th February 2015, 05:30 AM
Early on in this thread I said that I would do Bushy style stats for my next six rounds just to see how they compared. The six rounds are now complete, so I'll present the results.

I do not have Courty's talent with spreadsheets, or Bushy's system, so I'll just type them out and put Bushy's comparable stat in brackets.

Total Rounds 6 (6)

Par 72 (72)

Score Ave 83.66 (80.17)

Fairway Acc 63.40 (66.67)

GIR 44 (44.44)

Up/down 43 (38)

Sand Saves 30 (12.5) Small samples, mine was 3 of 10, Bushy's 1 of 8

Putts 31.16 (31.5)

Par 3 +11 (+11)

Par 4 +43 (+38)

Par 5 +14 (-1)

Low Score 81 (73)

High Score 88 (88)

Off the tee 52/82 (56/84) My misses = 19 left, 11 right. Bushy = 14 left 14 right (I think, I forgot to look this up)

At the green 46% on (44.4) 3% over (9) 8% left (10) 11% right (10) short 30% (23). Most of my short ones were mishits, not under clubbing.

Putts total = 193 (189)

1 putts = 33 (34)

3 putts = 11 (7)

Putts per GIR = 2.1 (1.89)

2 putts inside 30ft = 95.7% (96.3)

2 putts outside 30ft = 55% (71.4). For me this was 10 of 19 - pathetic, isn't it.

Ave length holed per round = 35.5 (78.5) I had a lot of tap-ins.

Putts holed under 6ft = 92 of 103, 89.3% (67 of 71, 94.37%)

Putts holed 6 to 10 = 6 of 17, 35.2% (16 of 40, 40.00%)

Putts holed 10 to 25 = 8 of 43, 18.6% (2 of 14, 14%)

Putts holed over 25 = zero of 19 (1 of 10)

3 putts under 6ft = 0 of 103 (0 of 71)

3 putts 6 to 10 = 0 of 17 (1 of 40)

3 putts 10 to 25 = 2 of 43 (1 of 14)

3 putts over 25 = 9 of 19 (2 of 10)

Some of these stats aren't quite comparable. I counted GIR as approaches to greens rather than genuine GIR. Which means if I had a chip out and then hit the green from 150 with my third, I counted that as a GIR for the purpose of this exercise.

Bushy measured his proximity to hole distances, which I decided not to do. This stat gets skewed badly by a few really bad shots. I hit a shank today from 120m that was still 70m from the green for my next. Professionals don't hit shanks (except Webb Simpson), and they don't hit duffs and skulls, and I'm not really trying to compare my game to the pro game anyway.

So, what does this all mean. The obvious thing is that I'm a crap golfer, and I'm a crap golfer at all parts of the game. My long putting is the worst of all. Bushy is a slightly better golfer than me, according to these stats, but I suspect he is actually a fair bit better, and if I continued with this exercise the stats would show this.

Did I get the results I expected? Sort of. My driving is usually more accurate than in these 6 rounds, and my putting is often worse.

So, what's the point? For me this was a bit of fun to see whether my stats matched Bushy's. For a lot of things they were pretty close, which is why we are both off high single figures. Apart from that there is no point. If I was capable of improving certain aspects of my game I would, and I don't need stats to tell me that everything is a weakness and nothing is a real strength. I could practice my long putting all day, every day, but would it get better? Maybe, but practice putting is the most boring thing in the golfing world, so I'm not going to do it.

I notice that Bushy is updating his stats in his signature. I'll keep an eye on that just for fun, but I'm not going to keep my stats any longer.

Congrats to any reader who got all the way through this dribble.

That was very interesting reading. I definitely understand what you mean about what good are stats when their all crap. I'm a little like that myself.

However I'm starting a training program with my Pro, with the express aim to get me back consistently shooting in the 70's and my cap back to 4 by the end of the year and to 'tighten-up' my game before going back to Scotland in May.
We want to try and get most of my rounds until then flagged.

Something I've learned from this already is where to layup. I previously would lay up to 100-120m to get a full shot however now I can see that 60-90m is my got to zone. I'll try keep it updated as best I can.

BUSHY
8th March 2015, 11:08 AM
Ok. Worst round ever as far as I'm concerned. After putting in a lot of work with a coach for the last few weeks my practice rounds were going very well so my confidence was high. Played like a busted a$$. One positive is I putted well but not great, I also hurt my neck on Friday so that might have had something to do with it. It was EXTREMELY hot and IMO the conditions were pretty crap. Next week is another week.

Courty
8th March 2015, 11:43 AM
How did you find the green speed yesterday, Bushy?

Haysey & myself had trouble getting it to the hole. We both agreed that they were a lot slower than they looked and both had a couple of 3-putts from long range.

BUSHY
8th March 2015, 11:47 AM
Yeah they were definitely two speed, erring on slower.

I actually thought the course was the worst I have seen it in years. I keep hearing it's a work in progress with the new guy but so far I'm not impressed.

hippo10
8th March 2015, 08:29 PM
I struggled all day to get the ball to the hole, particularly on chips. 3 x 3 putts on the back nine.

BUSHY
15th March 2015, 10:03 AM
Had a good round going yesterday until 3 late careless bogeys on 15, 16 and 17. Mainly due to the retards in front of us who thought being 2 par 4's and a par 3 behind the group in front wasn't a big deal, waiting 10-15 minutes on every shot. Apparently if you're the club champion, a + marker and a couple of low markers playing for $$$ in a non-club sanctioned matchplay comp you can do whatever the F*** you want.

Anyway...



I hit the ball very well yesterday, driving was a bit erratic for me, but I got the ball up and down well.

BUSHY
15th March 2015, 10:23 AM
Just for comparisons sake, I'll post some screenshots from Shotstothehole.com, they have the same data just presented differently. They're all benchmarked against the averages for a +1 to -1 golfer, which is my goal.

Round Overall

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.08.11_zpsmrlyxpgj.png
(http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.08.11_zpsmrlyxpgj.png.html)



Putting
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.22_zpsmd0adifp.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.22_zpsmd0adifp.png.html)
Shots 0-100m
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.40_zpsj4ms1p7a.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.40_zpsj4ms1p7a.png.html)
Shots 100-250m (approach)
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.59_zpssixth6ud.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.10.59_zpssixth6ud.png.html)
Shots 250-600m (off the tee)
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.12_zpse4o07jzz.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.12_zpse4o07jzz.png.html)
Tabled data for putts
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.34_zpsg0usw0df.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.34_zpsg0usw0df.png.html)
Tabled data for shots
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.49_zps8u9nnbx4.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.11.49_zps8u9nnbx4.png.html)
Club data
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/bushy81/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.12.00_zpsegfmw4ua.png (http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/bushy81/media/Screen Shot 2015-03-15 at 10.12.00_zpsegfmw4ua.png.html)

BUSHY
15th March 2015, 10:33 AM
Below I'll add the Shotstothehole.com "What-if Analysis" which compares a baseline (i.e. best round, last round, last 10 etc) to whatever 'benchmark' you select. Again I've selected the handicap range of +1 to -1 but you can use whatever you want from the huge selection in the drop down box.

The result is a slider where you can adjust the dispersion distances for each specific range. You can see where you sit in relation to your benchmarked group. On the right of the sliders it has 'score change' which shows how many shots you will lose or add depending on your stats in relation to the benchmark. It looks confusing but its fairly simple to understand. This is the big advantage to shotstothehole.com compared to GRGS, it gives me a better idea of where I should be practicing to get the most return from my game.

Like I said at the start, I love data, I enjoy pouring over this stuff. If only Shotstothehole.com weren't so expensive.

BUSHY
29th March 2015, 11:19 AM
Latest Shotstothehole.com stats page, benchmarked against scratch player.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7646/16934978006_63a81f8f5c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qTYFxk)

BUSHY
29th March 2015, 11:23 AM
Being playing very average lately. have been getting regular lessons and the mechanics are good but my decision making has been abhorrent. Putting has been very good. Making a lot of putts inside 12ft and have been under 30 for the last 3 rounds.

Smilesy
30th March 2015, 08:57 AM
Hi Bushy, which service to you prefer. I've been looking at them, they are both expensive, but shotstohole seems to have more detailed stats and for a someone looking to get to scratch seems to be a better option. Its expensive though.

BUSHY
30th March 2015, 09:15 AM
Hi Bushy, which service to you prefer. I've been looking at them, they are both expensive, but shotstohole seems to have more detailed stats and for a someone looking to get to scratch seems to be a better option. Its expensive though.

I definitely Agree. Both require the same input data however shotstothehole gives you more in return. They are expensive too.

I am also running a strokes gained spreadsheet that I got from GolfWRX, however I'm waiting for my copy of "Every Shot Counts" to arrive so I can interpret it a little better.

Hands down shotstothehole is the best, justifying $199 a year is a little difficult though. I got a three month subscription which takes me up to my trip to Scotland where I can make a call wether it's working or not.

I've got an on course lesson this week to iron out a few things.

Smilesy
10th April 2015, 12:27 PM
I had a go at building my own spreadsheet last year, that then turned into a website, then daylight savings started and I didn't finish it. Now daylight savings has finished I'm going to try to finish it off. I'm just too cheap to pay for shotstohole, so hopefully I can get something half as good.

BUSHY
18th June 2015, 11:55 AM
I've decided that GRGS is going to be what I use for the rest of the year. I have considered maybe using either an app or spreadsheet for putting alone but TBH I can't be bothered now and it takes away from actually playing the game. I've been playing well, actually very well, when just out playing with mates but come comp rounds I'm like a complete hack.

If anyone has or gets GRGS my "easy join code" is 9z1a5 which allows anyone to check out my stats.