Yossarian
26th July 2014, 01:52 PM
NEON GENESIS
Golf has been rained out so I thought I would take some time to say a few things. Hopefully it is taken in the spirit intended although I am not sure what that is. This place has been hurt and maybe some homespun bullshit from this guy will be a salve. This will probably be quite a longwinded ramble about the internet, ozgolf and life according to Yossarian.
SELF SERVING JUSTIFICATION
I am posting this publically because I believe that open discussion is best discussion. And this place is a community and the community (myself included) deserves to have their say openly. I don’t think there is anything too acerbic or damaging to the place.
YOSS, HYPOCRITE OR STUD MUFFIN?
I want to start by saying I am not angry, upset or vindictive about the events of the last few weeks. Personally I view the internet as the internet and try not to take anything too seriously. I realise that some people don’t have this outlook and as such my behaviour may not always be received as intended. I can only apologise to any I have truly offended in real life as a result of this. As I stated elsewhere it was rarely my intention. I would say that those that are offended or upset or whatever maybe need to take a step back and apply some perspective, there are people being starving in this world what Yossarian posts on ozgolf is really quite tame in comparison. At the same time that does not give one carte blanche to be a complete knob (which maybe I have now and then) and at times I have copped what I deserved.
This brings me to one of my central points; if you have an issue with something don’t always assume ignoring it is the best way to go. If I post something that annoys you call me on it. If I have offended you PM me with the reasons why and I will most likely apologise and not repeat the dose. If I make you scared to post on the forum let me know and I’ll see what I can do.
This does not mean that I will not call you on certain posts. I have been guilty in the past of not engaging in reasoned debate on issues of politics and the like. But so has the entire forum in my opinion and I can’t be bothered really engaging in such debate with people that post one line responses or just say Liberal crap, Labor crap.
I’ve gone on a tangent here. My point is that from my reading of this situation the moderation team/admin team and others were seriously unhappy with the way the forum was going for quite some time. Why was there zero communication about this? Are we to read the tea leaves each morning and take note of the stars? I personally had zero idea about the issues that have since been partially explained. How do you expect whatever change you want to bring about to occur if you just let it build until you feel your only option is to shut the place down and punt a few members. The forum is made up mostly of adults. Adults that have grown up in a democracy in full bloom, I feel that most of us responded better to reasoned decisions than deletions of posts without reason.
At this point I would again like to state that I am not to upset about any of this. I am not sure why this has blown out to almost a page now. Maybe I just like the attention.
IN GLORIOUS NORTH KOREA BEACH PARTY ALL THE TIME
Is the vision of the admin team the only applicable vision? All the long terms members have contributed to the place in some way. Organised events, donated, posted. I feel as if that counts for very little in the eyes of the admin team. The introduction of the infraction system and the pro shop post limit are two examples of this. I don’t think they meet a lot of people’s ideas about the site and frankly I think they are ridiculous. The lack of real consultation about this was a bad move.
A BRIDGE TOO FAR?
Moving on. I still have no real idea why I was banned. I was told I was a constant troll, and that I trolled, that trolls were bad. I asked for examples and was told that questioning why a thread was removed was trolling. I disagree. I am just a curious guy and like to have a bit of transparency and understanding of why things occur. I do post a lot of bullshit, so put me on ignore. I do tend to tease/ latch on to certain foibles of posters. If that annoys you so much tell me to stop. I probably will.
MAYBE A SLIGHT DIG
Silent supporters are great, except they don’t tend to turn up to or organise golf days. They also don’t keep a forum ticking over. If a forum doesn’t tick over is it really a forum? I don’t know. These are all questions.
I liked ozgolf. I thought it mostly liked me. The handling of the situation was abysmal. Members have been lost. I am probably one of those. I still haven’t seen many people flood back in. Maybe they drifted from the forum for a multitude of reasons. Maybe trying to make the forum what you want it to be doesn’t work. It is a pretty organic thing. Does a forum need a Yossarian? Was I the villain ozgolf needed back then but not the one it deserved?
THE END IS NO END
To cut this short, I am not angry and accept that I am not everyone’s cup of tea. Sorry .
I’m going to have some lunch now.
Go Yoss.
Golf has been rained out so I thought I would take some time to say a few things. Hopefully it is taken in the spirit intended although I am not sure what that is. This place has been hurt and maybe some homespun bullshit from this guy will be a salve. This will probably be quite a longwinded ramble about the internet, ozgolf and life according to Yossarian.
SELF SERVING JUSTIFICATION
I am posting this publically because I believe that open discussion is best discussion. And this place is a community and the community (myself included) deserves to have their say openly. I don’t think there is anything too acerbic or damaging to the place.
YOSS, HYPOCRITE OR STUD MUFFIN?
I want to start by saying I am not angry, upset or vindictive about the events of the last few weeks. Personally I view the internet as the internet and try not to take anything too seriously. I realise that some people don’t have this outlook and as such my behaviour may not always be received as intended. I can only apologise to any I have truly offended in real life as a result of this. As I stated elsewhere it was rarely my intention. I would say that those that are offended or upset or whatever maybe need to take a step back and apply some perspective, there are people being starving in this world what Yossarian posts on ozgolf is really quite tame in comparison. At the same time that does not give one carte blanche to be a complete knob (which maybe I have now and then) and at times I have copped what I deserved.
This brings me to one of my central points; if you have an issue with something don’t always assume ignoring it is the best way to go. If I post something that annoys you call me on it. If I have offended you PM me with the reasons why and I will most likely apologise and not repeat the dose. If I make you scared to post on the forum let me know and I’ll see what I can do.
This does not mean that I will not call you on certain posts. I have been guilty in the past of not engaging in reasoned debate on issues of politics and the like. But so has the entire forum in my opinion and I can’t be bothered really engaging in such debate with people that post one line responses or just say Liberal crap, Labor crap.
I’ve gone on a tangent here. My point is that from my reading of this situation the moderation team/admin team and others were seriously unhappy with the way the forum was going for quite some time. Why was there zero communication about this? Are we to read the tea leaves each morning and take note of the stars? I personally had zero idea about the issues that have since been partially explained. How do you expect whatever change you want to bring about to occur if you just let it build until you feel your only option is to shut the place down and punt a few members. The forum is made up mostly of adults. Adults that have grown up in a democracy in full bloom, I feel that most of us responded better to reasoned decisions than deletions of posts without reason.
At this point I would again like to state that I am not to upset about any of this. I am not sure why this has blown out to almost a page now. Maybe I just like the attention.
IN GLORIOUS NORTH KOREA BEACH PARTY ALL THE TIME
Is the vision of the admin team the only applicable vision? All the long terms members have contributed to the place in some way. Organised events, donated, posted. I feel as if that counts for very little in the eyes of the admin team. The introduction of the infraction system and the pro shop post limit are two examples of this. I don’t think they meet a lot of people’s ideas about the site and frankly I think they are ridiculous. The lack of real consultation about this was a bad move.
A BRIDGE TOO FAR?
Moving on. I still have no real idea why I was banned. I was told I was a constant troll, and that I trolled, that trolls were bad. I asked for examples and was told that questioning why a thread was removed was trolling. I disagree. I am just a curious guy and like to have a bit of transparency and understanding of why things occur. I do post a lot of bullshit, so put me on ignore. I do tend to tease/ latch on to certain foibles of posters. If that annoys you so much tell me to stop. I probably will.
MAYBE A SLIGHT DIG
Silent supporters are great, except they don’t tend to turn up to or organise golf days. They also don’t keep a forum ticking over. If a forum doesn’t tick over is it really a forum? I don’t know. These are all questions.
I liked ozgolf. I thought it mostly liked me. The handling of the situation was abysmal. Members have been lost. I am probably one of those. I still haven’t seen many people flood back in. Maybe they drifted from the forum for a multitude of reasons. Maybe trying to make the forum what you want it to be doesn’t work. It is a pretty organic thing. Does a forum need a Yossarian? Was I the villain ozgolf needed back then but not the one it deserved?
THE END IS NO END
To cut this short, I am not angry and accept that I am not everyone’s cup of tea. Sorry .
I’m going to have some lunch now.
Go Yoss.