Game Golf Review.

[Marto65]

Thought I'd do a quick review of the game golf system.

Game Golf tracks your play on the course and provides valuable feedback as to distances hit among other things.

The system itself is easy to use, as is the editing software.

I really like the 'compare stats' part of the software ... 31112

There are a couple of limitations, but I think in time they will be easily ironed out at the editing end.

The system will provide a good record of rounds at different courses ... something I wish I had a couple of years ago ... would have been great to have it while travelling.

[Steve57]

There have been some negative comments on the net to say that it is not that accurate.
How have you found it Marto? Courty?

[Marto65]

It's not that bad .... things that might put off the accuracy would be fat guts (as the device is worn on the belt) or an abundance of trees.

The editing part of it makes it easy to fix up anyway ..

[Buzz]

I'm really interested in this but it's not generally available yet in Australia, right?

Also does the belt unit get in the way swing wise?

[Marto65]

Nah .. you dont notice the belt unit on at all.

Not yet available here ... get someone in the US or UK to buy it and ship it here.

[Steve57]

Both Rockbottom and Global Golf have it and are willing to ship to Australia.

[simmsy]

Marto could u put the unit on your buggy?
How long from when u "tapout" to when u need to hit it?

[coalesce]

Nah .. you dont notice the belt unit on at all.

Not yet available here ... get someone in the US or UK to buy it and ship it here.

Looking at the prices and the exchange rates, it would be considerably cheaper to get it from the US

[Marto65]

Marto could u put the unit on your buggy?
How long from when u "tapout" to when u need to hit it?

There is no time limit ... the unit could sit on your buggy. But then, you wouldnt get accurate readings on the green as to where you hit it.

[simmsy]

U tap it on every putt yeah?

[Buzz]

What happens if you miss a tap, does that screw the whole round?

[Buzz]

Both Rockbottom and Global Golf have it and are willing to ship to Australia.

Nice tip I will have to check that out tonight. Maybe we really should do a group buy! :)

[Marto65]

Guys .. you can tap it with every putt ... but you can edit it after the game or just tap it once you have putted out.

I tap it when I get to the green and mark my ball .. then tap it again later depending on the number of putts.

[coalesce]

Nice tip I will have to check that out tonight. Maybe we really should do a group buy! :)

If you do, I could be tempted

[Marto65]

Guys ... the reason I bought this is so when I go to different places to play, I have more of a record of how and where I went. For this ... it is ideal.

You may have other reasons ...

Some of the stats are limited and can be misleading. I wouldn't buy it for that.

As a device to help improve your game ... may have a little value in course management and knowing what club to hit ...

Assess your own reason for getting it before you purchase.

Oh ... and it's good fun looking at other peoples rounds (read - Courty) and commenting on their game.

[goughy]

Golf hoes need no legitimate reason to spend money frivolously!

[Marto65]

I suppose it depends how much frivolous funds you have in your frivolous funds account.

[goughy]

And whether you consider it frivolous or not.

[coalesce]

Golf hoes need no legitimate reason to spend money frivolously!

This!

Plus it also qualifies under the tech gadget ho criteria too

[Steve57]

Nice tip I will have to check that out tonight. Maybe we really should do a group buy! :)

I may be interested if we get enough interest.

[Courty]

This device combines two of my interests... golf & tech gadgets. I've been geeking out over GameGolf ever since I first got wind of it some time back. I've always been an early adopter of things I see as good ideas, so I was always going to get one.

As Marto said, there are currently some (minor) limitations, but they can mostly be solved with back-end solutions requiring no effort from the user.

[coalesce]

Both rockbottom & global golf will do a single unit for US$249 + US$32 shipped (both have a shipping discount code/offer) - roughly AU$300

If you increase it to 5, i.e. group buy, global golf's postage stays at US$32, but rockbottom goes up to US$64

[coalesce]

Currently 3 on ebay (from the UK) for AU$250 including shipping

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Game-Golf-Digital-Tracking-System-Red-Black-NEW-Free-Shipping-/281358384513

[Buzz]

How legit is that eBay one I wonder given it's cheaper

[coalesce]

Not sure. Retail price in UK is GBP200 and US is US$249 (which is roughly GBP150).

If it is legit, my guess is that it was imported from the US first.

[coalesce]

How legit is that eBay one I wonder given it's cheaper

I'll let you know when it arrives :)

[Hatchman]

I'm a golf nerd and like tracking stats.
If it ends up with functions to be able to edit shots to Recovery or knock Down I would seriously think about buying it as I would be very interested in average distances for my clubs.
I play the knock down shot a number of times most rounds with various clubs that would affect the averages making it mute. A huge bonus would be if it could calculate these shots separately too.
I may be in a minority for this.

[Courty]

I'm a golf nerd and like tracking stats.
If it ends up with functions to be able to edit shots to Recovery or knock Down I would seriously think about buying it as I would be very interested in average distances for my clubs.
I play the knock down shot a number of times most rounds with various clubs that would affect the averages making it mute. A huge bonus would be if it could calculate these shots separately too.
I may be in a minority for this.

A simple workaround can be applied by setting one of the spares as a 'utility' to be tagged when playing anything other than a full shot. I've been considering trying it this weekend.

[coalesce]

I'm a golf nerd and like tracking stats.
If it ends up with functions to be able to edit shots to Recovery or knock Down I would seriously think about buying it as I would be very interested in average distances for my clubs.
I play the knock down shot a number of times most rounds with various clubs that would affect the averages making it mute. A huge bonus would be if it could calculate these shots separately too.
I may be in a minority for this.

I know what you mean. I often use my 6i to punch out from trouble or my 8i for a bump and run. I figure that it will collect the stats so eventually could do anything. From what I've read their customer support is pretty good so maybe they are open to suggestions?

For example 80th percentile distance might be a better measure than average, etc, but until I get a go at it I can't say.

For me I like the visual representation of the round. I'm one of those players who struggles to remember an entire round. Now I'll be able to relive my mistakes again and again! :)

[Courty]

I know what you mean. I often use my 6i to punch out from trouble or my 8i for a bump and run. I figure that it will collect the stats so eventually could do anything. From what I've read their customer support is pretty good so maybe they are open to suggestions?

http://myexperience.gamegolf.com/


For example 80th percentile distance might be a better measure than average

Something very similar has already been suggested (I recall 75th percentile being mentioned somewhere).

[coalesce]

That was quick ;)

[Hatchman]

A simple workaround can be applied by setting one of the spares as a 'utility' to be tagged when playing anything other than a full shot. I've been considering trying it this weekend.

By this are you suggesting I would have one of those bottons that are screwed onto the grip ends on my bag and tap that before playing the shot?

From a nerdy stats perspective I would be interested in knowing how often I played these shots with a particular club than the total number of times the shot was played hence the need to edit afterwards.

[Courty]

By this are you suggesting I would have one of those bottons that are screwed onto the grip ends on my bag and tap that before playing the shot?

On your bag, on your hat, on your glove, in your pocket or any other method of attachment, yes. It's a possibility if you are concerned more with distance averages than how often you are using a certain club.

[Steve57]

This device combines two of my interests... golf & tech gadgets. I've been geeking out over GameGolf ever since I first got wind of it some time back. I've always been an early adopter of things I see as good ideas, so I was always going to get one.

As Marto said, there are currently some (minor) limitations, but they can mostly be solved with back-end solutions requiring no effort from the user.Courty/Marto, how securely do the disks attach to the clubs? I would imagine that they would need to be pretty sturdy to handle being shoved in and out of the bag as much as they are?

[Jackson]

Roughly how long does it take to edit your round and upload etc?

[Marto65]

They screw in Steve. They are pretty sturdy.

You get 18 discs. I have set one of those discs to chip shots and another to mis-hits / trees. I can edit my round to reflect this after the round. I don't need to tap those ... as long as I tap it with something ...

Will try it this weekend.

[Marto65]

Upload .. 2 minutes.

Edit ... maybe 5-10 tops.

[GolfTourettes]

Def thinking about getting it!! Overall reviews are pretty sweet

[Buzz]

I'll let you know when it arrives :)

Actually ordered ?

[coalesce]

Actually ordered ?

Yep. Marked as dispatched already. Had some balance in my UK PayPal account so didn't get stung by FX rates

[Buzz]

Yep. Marked as dispatched already. Had some balance in my UK PayPal account so didn't get stung by FX rates

Will look forward to hearing how it goes :)

[coalesce]

My gamegolf unit arrived yesterday. It will get its first run out on Sunday!

[coalesce]

Still available at the same price from the same seller here:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Game-Golf-Digital-Tracking-System-Red-Black-NEW-Free-Shipping-/281358384513

[coalesce]

Sorry for the triple post, but specifically a question for Marto65 and Courty.

I notice you have both set up at least one "generic" club for shots you aren't hitting 100%. Would you tag that generic club when doing things like chipping from off the green, i.e. anytime it is not a 100% shot?

[Buzz]

Very tempted!!

[coalesce]

My gamegolf unit arrived yesterday. It will get its first run out on Sunday!

Actually, no it won't. The course I'm playing (Mt Lofty) is not mapped

[Steve57]

Still available at the same price from the same seller here:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Game-Golf-Digital-Tracking-System-Red-Black-NEW-Free-Shipping-/281358384513

Not according to the listing!

[coalesce]

Not according to the listing!

Lack of sleep is getting to me today - I didn't notice all 6 were sold

[Steve57]

No problem!

[coalesce]

Actually, no it won't. The course I'm playing (Mt Lofty) is not mapped

Well that's impressive. I requested them to map the course at 3pm. They said it normally takes 2-4 weeks, but it was done in 2 hours! They must do it with google maps or something

[Courty]

Sorry for the triple post, but specifically a question for Marto65 and Courty.

I notice you have both set up at least one "generic" club for shots you aren't hitting 100%. Would you tag that generic club when doing things like chipping from off the green, i.e. anytime it is not a 100% shot?

Yeah, that's a recent mod that Marto & I discussed. It came about by both of us hitting shots which, for one reason or another, mess with the average distances (ie. hitting a 7 iron into a tree resulting in a mapped distance of 14m, or playing a greenside punch with an 8 iron). You could carry the extra tags in your bag somehow, but I plan to just change the club when doing the post-round tidy-up.

[Ashes]

Yeah, that's a recent mod that Marto & I discussed. It came about by both of us hitting shots which, for one reason or another, mess with the average distances (ie. hitting a 7 iron into a tree resulting in a mapped distance of 14m, or playing a greenside punch with an 8 iron). You could carry the extra tags in your bag somehow, but I plan to just change the club when doing the post-round tidy-up.

I was under the impression it didn't work off a basic avg distance, and ignored outliers to weed out mishits and half shots etc.

[Buzz]

Looking forward to seeing some more rounds from users, good luck Coalesce with your inaugural game golf foray!

[Courty]

Looking forward to seeing some more rounds from users, good luck Coalesce with your inaugural game golf foray!

I've just uploaded this mornings round (link in my signature below).

[Buzz]

I've just uploaded this mornings round (link in my signature below).

What happened on the 6th?

[Courty]

What happened on the 6th?

Had some tree trouble. You know, there was a gap... "I can make it through there!"

[Buzz]

Ahhhh I see. So did you tap the generic tag or amend it afterwards?

[Courty]

Ahhhh I see. So did you tap the generic tag or amend it afterwards?

Amended afterwards.

[Marto65]

Just posted yesterday's round.

Nice dome with the 3 wood off the third. Led to my only double for the day. (Add 1 to Mishits.).

Can't tell you what I had as it was my fireball round against Shadesy. But it started with a 3 and ends in 7 points ;).

[coalesce]

Can't wait to post my round for today but won't get a chance to edit it until later.

Suffice to say the device still works for choppers

[coalesce]

Round up - see signature.

Not overly impressed with the course mapping - as it is showing a lot of tees and greens in the wrong place (although don't be fooled too much as I missed the fairway a lot too).

Very easy to use once I remembered to tag, and very easy to edit afterwards. If in doubt I tagged multiple times and just deleted the extra ones.

I definitely think they need to let you flag your shots as not-100% as particularly chips around the greens become a bit meaningless. Also would be useful to flag a punch shot to get out of trouble. That way the shots that genuinely went 2m because you topped it are real!

But using this was so much better than trying to track everything in the Swing by Swing iOS app I was using, and less frustrating too!

[coalesce]

Compare the mapping on my round and Marto's. Marto's looks much clearer - partly because there's less trees around.

I guess it depends on the course, but it is worth pointing it out. I wouldn't be confident in it recording if I had been in a bunker on this course, but luckily I missed them all today!

[Buzz]

Looking forward to checking out your round coalesce once I am home and can use the PC rather than mobile ... I think your experience is going to be the most relevant to me :)

[Marto65]

Coalesce ...

You get 18 tags .... so you should have 4 tags to do with what you want ...

Make one of your tags punch/trouble shots ... then just use it when it comes to edit the round.

[Courty]

Coalesce ...

You get 18 tags .... so you should have 4 tags to do with what you want ...

Make one of your tags punch/trouble shots ... then just use it when it comes to edit the round.

+1

[Marto65]

Compare the mapping on my round and Marto's. Marto's looks much clearer - partly because there's less trees around.

I guess it depends on the course, but it is worth pointing it out. I wouldn't be confident in it recording if I had been in a bunker on this course, but luckily I missed them all today!

I'd say it's a google earth problem ... how far out of town is that course?

[coalesce]

Coalesce ...

You get 18 tags .... so you should have 4 tags to do with what you want ...

Make one of your tags punch/trouble shots ... then just use it when it comes to edit the round.

Yeah that's what I did - hybrid punch, iron punch, chip.

I drew the line at having chip, flop, bump n run - plus I'd have run out of tags :)

[coalesce]

I'd say it's a google earth problem ... how far out of town is that course?

Not that far. Its nearer to the CBD than most of the courses the guys play here.

I'll have a play on google maps later and see what it looks like there, compare it with your course, and others in the area.

Its not a course I'm likely to play very often so probably not a problem.

[Buzz]

Fascinating. Coalesce your stats give me confidence to try this out :)

There are four generics, right? I was thinking of using three chips, say SW chip, GW chip. PW chip. I like to try and chip one with half swing and vary the club, rather than one club and vary the swing. At the moment I roughly say 30m SW, 40m GW, 50m PW with my chips, but setting up Gamegolf this way would allow me to track this accurately?

I'd use the fourth for the generic punch out of trees.

[coalesce]

Fascinating. Coalesce your stats give me confidence to try this out :)

There are four generics, right? I was thinking of using three chips, say SW chip, GW chip. PW chip. I like to try and chip one with half swing and vary the club, rather than one club and vary the swing. At the moment I roughly say 30m SW, 40m GW, 50m PW with my chips, but setting up Gamegolf this way would allow me to track this accurately?

I'd use the fourth for the generic punch out of trees.

Hah thanks I think. Yeah there are 4 "spare" tags. I'm not quite sure how important the actual tags are because you can add more than 18 clubs and edit the shots when you review your round.

I just tagged with whatever club I actually used and edited it at home afterwards. Didn't even have the other tags with me.

[Marto65]

WOW !!!

They have just released an "Analysis" part of the software .... Tee Shots and shots to the green .... looks fantastic.

http://www.gamegolf.com/analysis

[Steve57]

WOW !!!

They have just released an "Analysis" part of the software .... Tee Shots and shots to the green .... looks fantastic.

http://www.gamegolf.com/analysis

Can't get to that link Marto without a login!

[Marto65]

Will try to take some screen shots later...

[Courty]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/24/ynuhyby4.jpg

[Jackson]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/24/ynuhyby4.jpg

How does it work out how close your approaches were without knowing pin position?

[Marto65]

You can edit the pin position in the editor before you submit your round.

[Courty]

You can edit the pin position in the editor before you submit your round.

Wot he said.

[Courty]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/24/8ynyse5e.jpg

[coalesce]

How does it work out how close your approaches were without knowing pin position?

I noticed when editing my round that you could move the hole. I didn't bother tho because the mapping for my course was pretty bad it made it impossible, plus I can't remember that sort of detail!

[coalesce]

Must read whole thread before replying!

Here's my driving stats based on one pretty crappy round :)

31295

[Buzz]

So awesome!!!!!!

[Marto65]

3130831309

Driver Stats ... then 175-200m from green stats (I love my hybrids).

[coalesce]

Courty, Marto65 - when you completely mess up a shot, do you leave it assigned to that club, e.g. I had a drive that I topped 50m. Obviously, that is going to affect my driving average.

having said that, if you start removing shots, where do you stop?

[Buzz]

I wondered about this issue too

[Marto65]

If I cold top a 3 wood ... or if a shot hits a tree ... I use my 'mis-hit' disc.

I leave all 'average' shots on ... but I know what you mean ...

I'm really looking for how far my shots go on avg ..

[Courty]

Personally, I've decided that I'll use the normal club tag if I make reasonable contact and don't get a rebound or deflection (e.g. tree). So I only use the 'Mishit' tag when I hit one massively fat (like I have a couple of times in the last few rounds thanks to the really soft ground) or smack one into a tree.

[Courty]

Basically what Marto said, but more eloquently worded. 😉

[Marto65]

Basically what Marto said, but more eloquently worded. 

You're such a trucking wordsmith...

[coalesce]

I'm slightly uncomfortable with the concept of using a different tag for things like this because I'm losing data by not being able to go back and see which club I actually did use.

As Marto said, I'm more interested in tracking the distances. Now what would be cool is if you could export the shot data so you can do your own analysis on it!

[Courty]

I'm sure exporting has been suggested in the support forums already.

[Buzz]

From viewing your data ... Doesn't it give you a graphic anyway with a bandwidth that shows the mishits with each club ?

[Marto65]

From viewing your data ... Doesn't it give you a graphic anyway with a bandwidth that shows the mishits with each club ?

Yep. Sure does. Being a recent innovation from them I might rethink it but will see.

[Hatchman]

I like the recent stats pages posted that shows fairways and greens hit/miss.

Been looking a few of the mapped rounds than it got me thinking? How does it go on a 9 hole course? Does it get messy making it harder to edit?

[coalesce]

There's a q&a on their support page about 9/18/27 holes. If the holes have different tee boxes I think it would be ok

Kapunda isnt mapped so I can't check. You could request it?

[Courty]

I just played 12 holes this afternoon and mapped it. I haven't seen any issues with the partial round so far...

[Steve]

I am getting the picture that you gents are hitting then tagging,, would this be correct? Also just looking at Marto's player thing on the game golf site, just wondering How accurate are the stroke maps.

[Courty]

I am getting the picture that you gents are hitting then tagging,, would this be correct? Also just looking at Marto's player thing on the game golf site, just wondering How accurate are the stroke maps.

I've been getting into the habit of tagging before I hit, but it works either way as long as you are standing where you are playing your next shot from. I'd estimate that I've made fine adjustments to about 30-40% of shots... often when there's trees close by (I gather some satellites can get blocked out reducing accuracy).

[coalesce]

I tag before I hit but sometimes after if I can't remember if I tagged before or not!

You can move shots when you upload your round anyway, so you could tag anywhere if you forget I guess.

The map for the course I played was pretty average so I struggled to see whether I needed to move anything!

[coalesce]

You can also add shots when you upload the round if you forgot to tag them, e.g. putts

[Buzz]

How comprehensive is the documentation that comes with it?

[Marto65]

I am getting the picture that you gents are hitting then tagging,, would this be correct? Also just looking at Marto's player thing on the game golf site, just wondering How accurate are the stroke maps.

Steve. My course has gone under renovations recently. The google maps info could be 5 years old and some greens have moved. So the mapping will be out a little on 3 or 4 holes.

[BroKar]

you guys have talked me into it, i have one on the way

[Buzz]

you guys have talked me into it, i have one on the way

Where did you order from BroKar?

[BroKar]

rockbottomgolf with a few other things, bought some clothes

[Courty]

And some more new stuff in the 'Analysis' section:

http://i.imgur.com/zsPfL0q.png

[Steve]

I have one in bound.

[Volts]

I have gotten 2 rounds from 1 charge. No idea how close I came to running out. Support Centre says the average battery life is approx 10 hours. Has anyone had any battery issues?

[Buzz]

Those with incoming orders, have they been delivered? How long was the shipping? Considering ordering in the next day or so.

[GolfTourettes]

Those with the device can we have some more reviews now that you've been using them a while now. Cheers

[PeteyD]

the more you guys show of this thing the more I like it.

[Steve]

5 days postage

[Steve]

I have used for 2 rounds now, very impressed. First round took ages to manage on upload, second round was done in ten minutes or so.

[Buzz]

Where from Steve?

And +1 to GolfTourettes and PeteyD

[Steve]

Rock bottom golf in the states, only took them total of 7 working days 2 for process 5 for post.

[Courty]

Those with the device can we have some more reviews now that you've been using them a while now. Cheers

Is there anything in particular you would like to know?

I'm quite happy with mine so far. Some notes:

- play some practice holes when you first get it to work out how you tag it without upsetting your existing shot routine. Don't forget that you can just as easily tag after a shot has been played.
- when doing your post-round editing, double-check everything. Once you've 'signed' the round, you can't change anything except add comments. Note that this may change later on, going by some comments in the support forums.
- I have added a tag for mishits, but this is a personal preference thing. The more I use it the more I'm beginning to think that it isn't necessary.
- I haven't tried playing 36 with it between charges, although Volts has and said it lasted ok.
- My biggest question as of right now is whether it will hold up to moisture when summer comes back around. I guess time will tell.
- They are constantly adding new features in the software, such as the recent addition of the 'Analysis' tab on the site.

[Buzz]

Hmmm Courty the moisture question is a big one, its been wet and dreary down here for weeks :/ I assume the only concern is the belt unit?

[Courty]

Hmmm Courty the moisture question is a big one, its been wet and dreary down here for weeks :/ I assume the only concern is the belt unit?

Yeah, absolutely. It appears to be a sealed unit except for the USB connector (rubber cover), but summers get stupidly humid here, which is not good for anything electronic.

[Steve]

I wiill put mine in a zip lock bag and for humid bag with a jell pouch in it.

[Courty]

I will put mine in a zip lock bag

Good thinking, Steve. I might do the same, and then keep it in my pocket.

[Buzz]

One more question ... Can you do a specific hole review ... Showing every time you have played that hole over "career" ??

[Courty]

One more question ... Can you do a specific hole review ... Showing every time you have played that hole over "career" ??

Not yet, but I'm sure it has been suggested in the support forum already.

[Buzz]

Thanks ... Just thought of one more! My putter is so old us doesn't have a hole for the tag ... Is this a problem or do putts not get tagged anyway? I'm thinking it is probably an issue because then I won't finish holes.

[Courty]

Thanks ... Just thought of one more! My putter is so old us doesn't have a hole for the tag ... Is this a problem or do putts not get tagged anyway? I'm thinking it is probably an issue because then I won't finish holes.

Have you ever heard of duct tape? ;)

Seriously though, it's not a big deal if your memory is good, as you can add all your putts and pin location post-round.

[Buzz]

Excellent .... Duct tape it is! Will break out my inner MacGuyver :)

[BGH]

A common complaint with GG seems to be the accuracy of the GPS, has anyone here had any issues with that?

Do you think it would ever get to the level where you could get everything right on the course without having to adjust stuff after the round?

Is there any way to add penalties during your round? Are you able to assign one of the tags to be a penalty shot?

[Courty]

A common complaint with GG seems to be the accuracy of the GPS, has anyone here had any issues with that?

Do you think it would ever get to the level where you could get everything right on the course without having to adjust stuff after the round?

Is there any way to add penalties during your round? Are you able to assign one of the tags to be a penalty shot?

I've had no issues with accuracy in open areas, only where there is considerable tree cover. But that's not really a fault of the hardware.

I guess not having to adjust anything is certainly possible, but it'll always be worthwhile to check just in case. You still need to upload via PC and 'sign' for your round so there'll always be some level of post-round interaction required. The more you get familiar with the process, the quicker it becomes. I fully checked, edited and signed for Saturdays round in around 5 minutes (upload time not included).

Theoretically you could assign a tag to penalties, but it would still class them as a shot. When you edit the round you can assign penalties to specific shots. Have a look at the 5th hole of my round on Saturday just gone.

[Steve]

I have seen in the shot menu, on the PC to tag a penalties. On the course you just double tap your shot.

[BGH]

Pretty sure it's not a feature but I think when viewing a round it would be cool to see it played our shot by shot. I see that you can click on a specific hole and see the all the shots for that hole laid out, but it would be cool to start at hole one and see each shot getting displayed one after another with which club was used and how far it went.

[Courty]

Pretty sure it's not a feature but I think when viewing a round it would be cool to see it played our shot by shot. I see that you can click on a specific hole and see the all the shots for that hole laid out, but it would be cool to start at hole one and see each shot getting displayed one after another with which club was used and how far it went.

You mean like an animated version?

I reckon the mobile app does a better job at this than the website (see below)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/07/qydega4u.jpg

[BGH]

Yeah animated. Do either versions do that?

[Courty]

Yeah animated. Do either versions do that?

Not without some kind of intervention, no. In the mobile version, you just swipe the shot details under the image to the left and it automatically displays the next one.

[BGH]

Not without some kind of intervention, no. In the mobile version, you just swipe the shot details under the image to the left and it automatically displays the next one.

Close enough, that's pretty cool.

[Buzz]

After negotiation with the Minister for War and Finance, GameGolf is now on the christmas list. Mutual decision, too many other things going on now ... and hopefully a lot of extra features will be added by then. Until then I will live vicariously through all of your GameGolf links :)

[GolfTourettes]

Oh I want one of these soooo bad!!! Think it would actually free up my game a lot! Loving the reviews and screens

[BGH]

Anyone been following the progress of the new player in the game Arccos? Seems to alleviate some of the downsides of Game Golf (while introducing a few of it's own).

https://arccosgolf.com/

http://breakingeighty.com/arccos-golf-preview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAr8PIZmEQ

[Courty]

Anyone been following the progress of the new player in the game Arccos? Seems to alleviate some of the downsides of Game Golf (while introducing a few of it's own).

https://arccosgolf.com/

http://breakingeighty.com/arccos-golf-preview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAr8PIZmEQ

Interesting. I'd never heard of it until I just read your post.

[coalesce]

I just read the preview (and his follow up hands on review) and I don't think there is anything there that Game Golf couldn't add themselves with a software update.

He makes a lot about forgetting to tap the game golf and the auto detection of the Arccos but I can't help but think that will just lead to similar issues. With the game golf it is just about using it enough that tagging becomes part of your pre-shot routine, and if you are in any doubt whether you have tagged, just tag again.

For me the benefit of Arccos is the editing of a round as you go, i.e. you can see if you have captured all your shots, but I kinda like reviewing my round afterwards, and once you get used to it, it doesn't take that long anyway.

The other benefits are the GPS part of the app (but you might have an app/device for this anyway) and the real time tracking of club lengths (would this be legal in competition?)

As I already have a game golf, I won't be rushing out to replace it with this, but it will be interesting if it prompts game golf to add more features to what they already have

[Buzz]

Competition is a good thing I guess, but my immediate reaction was that it wouldnt be legal, live data is basically making a club recommendation?

[BGH]

Yeah Arccos cant be used in comp rounds in it's current form

from http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-12/golf-quants-shave-strokes-using-math-driven-data-analysis.html

Unlike Arccos, Game Golf can be used in competition because it doesn’t provide real-time data. The U.S. Golf Association, which helps write the rules of golf and is the organizer of this week’s U.S. Open, has said Arccos can’t be used in tournaments because the real-time information it provides on the golf course might provide an advantage.

“If you’re going to be able to access that during play, during that day, we just don’t think that’s the right thing,” John Bodenhamer, the USGA’s senior managing director of rules, competitions and equipment standards, said in a telephone interview from Pinehurst. “If it can help your game in the future and you can benefit from knowing what you’ve done that day, it’s absolutely fine. We think it’s a neat tool.”

[3Puttpete]

Yeah Arccos cant be used in comp rounds in it's current form

from http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-12/golf-quants-shave-strokes-using-math-driven-data-analysis.html

Unlike Arccos, Game Golf can be used in competition because it doesn’t provide real-time data. The U.S. Golf Association, which helps write the rules of golf and is the organizer of this week’s U.S. Open, has said Arccos can’t be used in tournaments because the real-time information it provides on the golf course might provide an advantage.

“If you’re going to be able to access that during play, during that day, we just don’t think that’s the right thing,” John Bodenhamer, the USGA’s senior managing director of rules, competitions and equipment standards, said in a telephone interview from Pinehurst. “If it can help your game in the future and you can benefit from knowing what you’ve done that day, it’s absolutely fine. We think it’s a neat tool.”

Stupid rule.

I hope the check all yardage books after each shot to make sure they're not taking notes about where their driver goes.

[GolfTourettes]

Soooo those using Game Golf... Has your game improved? Have you dropped shots?

[coalesce]

Haha no but it's helped me decide what I knew already - that my hybrids are not good for me

[Courty]

Soooo those using Game Golf... Has your game improved? Have you dropped shots?

:lol:

[Steve]

I have found that as soon as I start to play poor during a round, I forget to tag my shots. It's just not an auto part of the routine yet.

[GolfTourettes]

Anyone out there with experience with Arccos? Game Golfs competition!

If ya never heard of it search Arccos. Pretty cool but I believe Game golf is better and it's $150 less!

[Buzz]

Arrrrgh I cant resist anymore ... so rockbottomgolf is the way to go??

[Courty]

Anyone out there with experience with Arccos? Game Golfs competition!

If ya never heard of it search Arccos. Pretty cool but I believe Game golf is better and it's $150 less!

My understanding is that Arccos is still in development, and it won't be legal in competition play so that kills off any interest for me.

[GolfTourettes]

Arrrrgh I cant resist anymore ... so rockbottomgolf is the way to go??

I'm feeling the same way mate!

[Feelzy]

Arrrrgh I cant resist anymore ... so rockbottomgolf is the way to go??

I'm feeling the same way mate!

Me three. I think I can hold out for a few more months though.

[Buzz]

Exchange rate probably won't get any better though ...

[coalesce]

Ok, so here's an example of some useful information that my game golf is giving me (other than that I chop a lot - but I knew that already).

http://www.gamegolf.com/player/coalesce

I've just changed the driver in my bag, so I now have stats for 2 rounds with each driver - and it is enough to start to quantify in numbers a pattern I'd already noticed on the course.

31804

So that shows that I can hit the Cleveland driver further than the Cobra, but that my average distance with the Cobra is higher. The reason for this is that I wasn't hitting the Cleveland that well, so had a lot of shorter mishits.

Now we move to the analysis section for each driver

Cleveland:

31805

Cobra:

31806

The first stat I'm interested in is fairways hit. I am more accurate with the Cobra (52% compared to 32%). However I miss left with the Cobra, and miss right with the Cleveland.

The game golf gadget can't show this, but I have a habit with the Cobra of pulling the drive left - it goes in a straight line, but 15-20 degrees left of where I aimed. With the Cleveland, the misses right were generally due to a slice, or to adjusting my aim to the right to compensate for a draw, but not getting the draw. The other noticeable difference between the two drivers for me is the ball flight - I hit the Cobra high, and the Cleveland comes out much much lower - hence the extra length I guess.

What I think this all tells me is that I don't have the optimum driver for me. Game Golf is not going to be able to tell me what the optimum driver is, but it gives me some quantitative stats to help me see what's happening. However other than hoing, or going for a fitting, I'm not sure what the next step for me is...

[Buzz]

Sold :)

Ps what are the red dots?

[coalesce]

Sold :)

Ps what are the red dots?

They are where I have hit it way off to the side. Through the website if you hover over any of the dots it will tell you when and where you hit that particular shot

[oncewasagolfer]

I might have to look at this as I'm a bit of a stats and tech geek:)

[Buzz]

It's only a question now of who I order it through :)

[Steve]

Got mine via rockbottom

[Buzz]

Ordered!

[s12raider]

Anyone got a coupon code for rock bottom as wanting to get this plus a 5 wood. Loking at global golf too.

[Daves]

Anyone got a coupon code for rock bottom as wanting to get this plus a 5 wood. Loking at global golf too.

I don't think there are any current coupons for RBG, and only current ones for Global are for Shoes as far as I am aware.

Here are some links to their Promo pages;

http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/coupon-page.html

http://www.globalgolf.com/promo/

[Ankush]

It is also available at Amazon for 222 us dollars + shipping.

[Buzz]

Great ... I just paid 249 plus shipping at RBG :(

[Steve57]

It is also available at Amazon for 222 us dollars + shipping.
But will they ship to Australia?

[Ankush]

Yes they will, shipping to Sydney is 8.45, so around 230 us$ shipped.

[Ankush]

Thinking of getting one myself but it's between this or a rangefinder

[Buzz]

geez I just blew $50 then :/

[GolfTourettes]

Thinking of getting one myself but it's between this or a rangefinder

Rangefinders are shit.

You're gunna get ALOT more out of Game Golf for similar/less money

[s12raider]

Buzz better to blow $50 on this than waste $50 on a tahs victory :-)
Thanks everyone for info. Just more tech stuff to spend on in hope it improves my game; ive yet to take out the sure shot launcher so will advise on this and how it.operates...

[hippo10]

This looks awesome. Just to confirm, you can use this in comp rounds? Also what about having a 'flag' button that you tap when getting the ball out of the hole so that you have the exact pin position. Might need a back end software update though.

[coalesce]

Yep its fine in comps as it doesn't give you any information during the round.

As it doesn't track putt lengths (is the GPS even accurate enough for this given where the device is and where you may be standing to actually tag it) I don't think it is a big deal that it doesn't track pin location. There's so much other information about a putt that it is never going to be able to track like slopes and grains that how useful is it really? I guess you could look at your scoring on a hole based on the pin position, but I don't think that's the kind of thing it is really trying to do.

[hippo10]

Given that the greens are out in the open the accuracy should be pretty reasonable. I agree that you can't tell a lot of information about putts but it would be useful to have rough distances and to get some stats on how many first putts are short vs long etc.

[coalesce]

Yeah put say you tag the "hole" by holding the flag - you could be anywhere approx 1m around the hole location. How would you expect it to track a 6 inch putt?

[hippo10]

The problem being that my second putts are from potentially MUCH longer than 1m...

[Buzz]

Mine is on it's way according to the UPS tracker!!

Question ... How does it know the ball is in the hole? Say I tag before a 3m putt and hole it, the next tag will be on the next tee ... Won't the unit think my putt has gone 50m :)

[coalesce]

I think it recognises that you've changed hole by the location of the next shot being on the tee of the next hole.

Not sure what would happen if hole 2's tee area was next to hole 1's green and your approach shot went there.

You can always manually add/edit shots when you edit the round on your PC afterwards. There are other reasons you might need to do this, e.g. you didn't have a fix on enough GPS satellites and it got the location wrong

[Courty]

This looks awesome. Just to confirm, you can use this in comp rounds?

Check the link in my signature below (I've been using it at Cairns GC).
The software automatically drops the flag location in the centre of the green. You can just drag it to the actual location during post-round editing.

[IanO]

I have talked the better half into buying me one. Hopefully she has ordered it from Rock Bottom Golf today and it will arrive in Melbourne whilst I am there for a 2 week holiday.

[Buzz]

Mine is due tomorrow !! :)

[Steve]

Put your names up, when you've registered so we can follow you :)

[Buzz]

Will do

[Buzz]

Although all this will do is reveal I am ozgolf's shortest hitter :)

[Steve]

No that Mr Bluu

[Buzz]

Hahaha I very much doubt it!

[Buzz]

Ok so now I am officially pissed off!

UPS attempts to deliver game golf package on Monday. I get a missed delivery note saying I can either pick it up from the depot, I can redirect it, or they can try again, but if they try three times they will return it to Sydney.

So I ring and say please redirect to my parents place, they are retired and will be home. No probs says the operator ... I'll get a second missed delivery note but will be delivered to the new address on the third day - today.

I get home just now, and have a third missed delivery note. Parents confirm it didn't go there.

UPS is now sending it back to Sydney, office hours are closed so nothing I can do.

Not .... Happy .... Jan !!!!!!!!

[Steve57]

That is why I get everything delivered to work.
Even if I am not there it gets signed for and held for me.

[Steve]

I do the same

[Buzz]

Rang this morning, it fortunately had not left the building yet for Sydney ... hopefully will be redelivered today ... assuming they get it right this time.

[Buzz]

How long does it take to set up for the first time? Not going to have a chance until tomorrow and I have a 9:42 tee slot.

[coalesce]

You'll need to have charged the device before you can use it. Make sure you turn it on a few mins before you tee off to give it a chance to pick up the GPS signals.

From memory, for setup, it is about saying what clubs you have in your bag, and which tag you are using for them. I'm not actually sure you need to have done that before you play, but you will need to have done it before you upload your round. It should only take 5-10 minutes to do that, and I don't know that you need the device to do that bit, but I can't remember for sure.

[Buzz]

Good point on charging ... Looks like no go for tomorrow ... Pissed off they delayed delivery !!

[Courty]

How long does it take to set up for the first time? Not going to have a chance until tomorrow and I have a 9:42 tee slot.


You'll need to have charged the device before you can use it. Make sure you turn it on a few mins before you tee off to give it a chance to pick up the GPS signals.

From memory, for setup, it is about saying what clubs you have in your bag, and which tag you are using for them. I'm not actually sure you need to have done that before you play, but you will need to have done it before you upload your round. It should only take 5-10 minutes to do that, and I don't know that you need the device to do that bit, but I can't remember for sure.

You should be able to do the bag setup now. Just go to Gamegolf.com, setup an account, and choose which tags you are going to put on which clubs (just make sure you match the actual tags to what you enter on the site).

[Buzz]

Just boarding a flight MEL-CBR then have to go straight out to dinner ... Won't even see the package until late tonight.

[coalesce]

Its just a USB charger - you might be able to do that overnight?

[Steve]

Four hours of charge as a min. You can set your bag up prior, most club tags are idiot proof. Just the extras are the ones you need to remember. Watch out for solid caps in the grip ends when you got to screw the tags in. Just push a tee in the grip end to check

[Buzz]

Thanks for the advice gentlemen

[BGH]

For those who didn't see it, it would seem GameGolf has another high-profile user

http://www.golfwrx.com/238475/spotted-president-obama-uses-game-golf/

[coalesce]

Yeah but you can't follow his rounds because he's not made them public :(

On another subject, I notice there's a new tab when I log into the game golf website called "Challenges". I wonder if we can think of some good OzGolf ones...

[Buzz]

Apologies if I or someone else asked this before but what happens if you pick up in stableford and match play ? Just adjust afterwards ??

[IanO]

Put your names up, when you've registered so we can follow you :)

I will do so as I think it is only fair that others get to laugh at my misfortune, as I laugh at theirs :mrgreen:

[Steve]

Apologies if I or someone else asked this before but what happens if you pick up in stableford and match play ? Just adjust afterwards ??

Best guess and amend at the edit stage

[Steve]

@ buzz did you finally get yours

[Buzz]

Yep but haven't had a chance to install yet

[coalesce]

One thing that I realised with game golf from now playing the same course regularly, is that because the stats don't take into account elevation changes, that your average distances with each club could be distorted.


My club has a lot of holes that have a considerable elevation change. I noticed this when it flagged up a new long drive of 266m for me this week on the 9th hole, which has a large downhill slope, and I managed to nail one perfectly. Similarly, the 18th has a large downhill, and I hit a 3w on my second shot that got a great roll, and rolled through the back of the green and down a large slope onto the patio in front of the clubhouse (whoops!). I also did something similar with a 4i.

Now I'm not suggesting that they could or should do anything about this, but I will now bear in mind when looking at my average distances, that there will be some shots either artificially long or short, and that particularly where I don't use a club regularly, I shouldn't rely on only this gadget for keeping track of the distances I hit each club...

[coalesce]

Another thing is that I can't put the plastic widget for the putter in my new tank cruiser as the weights get screwed in the end. Will have to carry it in my pocket and remember to tag :(

[Buzz]

I have a similar issue because my putters too old with no hole in the top. Could it be taped on?

[Vice MC]

I have a similar issue because my putters too old with no hole in the top. Could it be taped on?

Dont see why not..might look a bit funny? Some of the old boys at my club have their ball grabbers taped to the end of their putters!

[Steve]

I drilled a hole in the end of my putter an fitted the tag

[Daves]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFauI_YwS0&list=UUZelGnfKLXic4gDP63dIRxw& index=6

[Buzz]

Ringing endorsement there!

Obvious solution to the putter issue is just to get a new one :)

[Steve]

I have loaded him as a player to follow. It is good to see his stats in M not Y. Not as impressive converted to metric. Don't take me the wrong way, still very good just not as

[coalesce]

Ringing endorsement there!

Obvious solution to the putter issue is just to get a new one :)

It is a new one! Got to use it at least once before moving it on!

[Buzz]

I meant my putter issue :) mine is 70 years old!

[IanO]

I have just started using game golf and like it. As I have only played 3 rounds across 2 Australian courses and am yet to see how it goes on Czech coursesbut will hopefully try it out next weekend

[coalesce]

I have just started using game golf and like it. As I have only played 3 rounds across 2 Australian courses and am yet to see how it goes on Czech coursesbut will hopefully try it out next weekend

You can check in advance on their website if it has your course. If it doesn't, email them and they will map it based on google maps in a few days max.

[Buzz]

Finally will have a single comp round next week so hopefully will get my game golf operational!

[IanO]

Tried it out Sunday afternoon at Golf Club Praha and the course is mapped. Everything worked well, except me.

My user name is IanO (and I am sucking at golf big time at the moment)

[Steve]

I can't find you

[Daves]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=067IRZm8S1o

[IanO]

.

[Daves]

My first round with Game Golf today, but seems to have been a failure. Everything seemed to work as described during the round, the only issue was me forgetting to tag shots. But when I got home and tried to download the round, nothing?? Transfer app starts, but doesn't open as such, and closes again within a few seconds?

[coalesce]

What point does it get to? Does it show the round as on the device?

[Daves]

What point does it get to? Does it show the round as on the device?

No. Starts, but doesn't actual open. It just sits in the Tray bar for a few seconds and then closes again.

[coalesce]

Does the app run if you don't have the device connected? In other words does it say "No device connected"?

If so, are you saying the crash happens when you connect the device?

[Steve]

You must have the app and the downloader to get a game off the device,

[Daves]

Does the app run if you don't have the device connected? In other words does it say "No device connected"?

If so, are you saying the crash happens when you connect the device?

Connect the device and the Transfer app starts, but doesn't open ,and then closes again after a few seconds. I am assuming it doesn't register/recognise a round on the device, so close again? I have reinstalled the software, but makes no difference. And there is no round recorded for my account on the Game Golf site.

[coalesce]

I'm trying to work out if it is the app that is the problem, or the device.

First things first - is this Windows Vista, 7 or 8? They do not support XP. Do you have the .NET Framework 3.5 (I think) installed/enabled?

You should have a shortcut to run the application either on your desktop or in the start menu. If you run that with the device unplugged, does the app run? If I remember right, you should see "No device connected" (or you might be asked to login to your gamegolf account first - I can't remember which).

[Daves]

You must have the app and the downloader to get a game off the device,

Que? By App I assume you mean website account?

Windows 8. There is a short cut on the desktop, but I get the same result, starts but doesn't open.

[Steve]

Yes the website thing, is you firewall or antiV stopping it?

[coalesce]

Is there anything in the Event Viewer?

[Daves]

Is there anything in the Event Viewer?

Just a whole heap of "Information" messages like this;




Receive Message: control 11, eventType 32768, eventData 2638816

[coalesce]

You probably need to email them. From what I've heard they are normally pretty good at getting back to you. I'd say its the software install that is the problem tho

[Vice MC]

Ordered mine express thru amazon today..any tips for when i get started

[Daves]

You probably need to email them. From what I've heard they are normally pretty good at getting back to you. I'd say its the software install that is the problem tho

Yes they are. Got in touch and we ended doing a Screen share session this morning. Seemed to be a Windows authorisation problem with the log folder, which they (Jason) was able to eventually fix for me. 1st round now downloaded, now to see if I can still remember all the shots i forgot to tag!


Ordered mine express thru amazon today..any tips for when i get started

The website has heaps of instruction, help videos etc. It is all pretty straight forward.

[Buzz]

Finally got it all set up ... first run with it tomorrow.

[Daves]

OK, 2nd rounds in my initial observations are;

Very easy to use, but I am still struggling to remember to tap for every shot. I have been hesitant to tap too soon so far, but might start seeing how long before the shot i can tap and it will still work. Starting to remember that I can still tap after the shot.

The mapping of my home course seems to be wrong, in that they have some of the (adjacent) holes in the wrong sequence.

I wonder about the accuracy of the GPS, or perhaps more correctly the google overlay? it seems to be out quite a bit on a lot of shot positions. Which along with the wrong sequencing mucks with the statistical calculations.

It is surprising how few full shots I hit during a round.

[Buzz]

Argh ... terrible conditions and terrible round for first run with Game golf. Avoided raising the bat by a lone shot. Poor ball striking all day. Positive was I didn't forget to tag once ... but I did tag twice on one shot (before and after)!

[Buzz]

Oh yeah and I am Chris Mayne if anyone wants to follow me and feel better about their golf ;) I'm already following Coalesce!

[Steve]

Got ya Buzz

[coalesce]

If in doubt, tag multiple times and delete them later!

I have found on some courses it is a bit ropey with getting the locations right but I suspect it is GPS problems. At the course we played today, nadg63 had problems with his GPS device and on review of my round on game golf so did I...

[Buzz]

I was pretty happy with the GPS accuracy at my course ... A couple of minor adjustments but I think it got 95% of the shots mapped correctly. Post round edit function is great though easy to use.

[BGH]

Got a couple of rounds under my belt now. Slowly starting to get better at tagging, tagged about 75% of my shots in the last round as opposed to 50% in the first round. Tap in putts are the worst for remembering.

Wish there was some way to see average club distances from the analysis section.

[coalesce]

I write down the number of putts on my scorecard for that reason so that when I edit the round I can easily add them on

[Buzz]

That's a good idea ... I carried the putter tag in my pocket and tagged but it was a little clunky

[Steve]

It shows your average distance for your clubs

[BGH]

It shows your average distance for your clubs

Yeah but as far as I can tell, only on the main summary screen, and there you can't see when/which-hole a particular shot was when you hover over it. In contrast when you then go to "Analyse" you can see average distances off the tee and how far each individual shot went. But for everything else you cant see average club distances.

If I look at the main summary screen I can see that I have one really long 7 iron but can't tell which date/club/shot it actually relates to.

[coalesce]

Suggest it to them. I've been meaning to suggest being able to see club distance regardless of whether it is off the tee or approaching the green, and ideally if it could show elevation change for each dot too. I'm just too lazy to have done it!

[Steve]

Have a look under my golf bag. I'm sure it gives you the long and short plus the average of every club you have tagged like this.

32370

[goonie]

Could there be interference from wearing the GPS device on your belt?
I vaguely remember my Bushnell Neo taking a little while to update when I used to take it off my belt, no such issues now it's mounted to my buggy.
Maybe mounting the GPS unit to your buggy or bag might help.

[coalesce]

I think nadg63's gps was buggy mounted. But yes I would imagine it is interference from something

[Buzz]

Must download the app ! I've been looking web only.

[Matt 3 Jab]

New user here

Matt4007

Feel free to add me!