Pure Performance Golf Lab Sydney

[Captain Nemo]

Gents, got the OK from Andy to post this so dont go on and crap all over the thread, please.
Paul Jenner is moving on from his Purified Golf setup and opening his new venture in Sydney:
www.pureperformancegolflabs.com.au (http://www.pureperformancegolflabs.com.au)
Bit of a collaboration with a few other guys and looks like its going to be a great setup.
Paul was a major donater of prizes to the Innaugural NSW Champs Weekend so we should all support him....
He really knows his stuff.
Ive booked into see him first thing when he opens in January.
If you get in now he's doing 50% off for pre-booking for all previous Purified Golf Customers....
Email addy:
paul@ppgl.com.au

[virge666]

I am also booked.

[Captain Nemo]

Nice what day?
What are you getting looked at???

[Icestorm959]

So is that $75 for a driver fitting if we book in now then? (web price is $149)

[Captain Nemo]

So is that $75 for a driver fitting if we book in now then? (web price is $149)
Yep, get in touch with him via email...

[Icestorm959]

Yep, get in touch with him via email...

Thanks.

What are your thoughts on getting fitted for a driver shaft, and then just upgrading heads from there onwards, or is it the case that different heads will have different optimal shafts? I desperately need to get fit for a shaft (current one is an off the rack stock regular flex TM which does not suit me at all) but may not be in the market for a new driver for awhile.

[3oneday]

I would imagine they would focus on loft and maybe face angle as well.

[Captain Nemo]

From what he has told me they will be unbiased brand wise.
He is aiming to have all brands and their heads then have every shaft he can get with all the different adaptors.
His goal will be to find the best head/shaft/loft etc driver (and irons) for your game.
I dont think there is another place in AUS like this will be....

If anyone has been to the Callaway fitting centre, think this but with all OEM Companys products....
He also said he will have exotic non oem shafts that he will be making up with different brand adaptors to try.
Yes it will be indoors but with Trackman so he's hoping the data will be pretty accurate.
Nothing beats trying it on the course/range in diff conditions though but this will at least give a very accurate starting point.

[Dangals]

yeah I was talking with Matty about this when we played recently and it sounds very interesting - after reading through the website I am certainly thinking about doing a fitting with him as well....

[Captain Nemo]

Get on board guys.
Have a look at what he offered as prizes for the NSW w/end.
He was more than generous, and is a great guy to talk equipment with.

[AusOdy]

my hc is 32 so will that be benefit to do fitting or wait till i have a consistent swing?

[Icestorm959]

my hc is 32 so will that be benefit to do fitting or wait till i have a consistent swing?

At least with irons I found when I had a 30+ handicap that the mizuno fitting helped me greatly - I was using a wrong shaft as well as wrong heads (Ben Hogan Apex blades on Apex 4 shafts is not a good combo for beginners lol) probably shaved a good 5 strokes off my game just by going to a slightly lighter and less stiff shaft.

[matty]

Just booked my driver fitting in on 24th January. To say I can't wait to see what I end up with is an understatement.
Looking at a full bag fitting for the future too. Pretty happy with what I've got though.

[mrbluu]

Just booked my driver fitting in on 24th January. To say I can't wait to see what I end up with is an understatement.
Looking at a full bag fitting for the future too. Pretty happy with what I've got though.

I was thinking of the fitting just to see how close my set will be to m my specs....

[matty]

From what he has told me they will be unbiased brand wise.

I like this part the most. I wouldn't care if I they told me I needed a 13* driver with a ladies shaft as long as they prove it works!

[matty]

I was thinking of the fitting just to see how close my set will be to m my specs....
My thoughts too.
Allows one to sleep at night knowing it's how it should be.

[Dangals]

My thoughts too.
Allows one to sleep at night knowing it's how it should be.

+1 - this is why I am thinking about doing the full bag and not just driver

[Waddzy]

Man I wish I lived in Sydney.. Might have to make a trip down for golf/ fitting weekend. I wish someone up here would be unbiased.. My pro shop pushes titleist like its going out of fashion and my local driving range is Callaway only..

[mrbluu]

Man I wish I lived in Sydney.. Might have to make a trip down for golf/ fitting weekend. I wish someone up here would be unbiased.. My pro shop pushes titleist like its going out of fashion and my local driving range is Callaway only..

Tie it in with an ozgolf day. Come down on Sat and get fitted then play on Sunday ;-)

[KristianJ]

Ditto to full set...at half price it'd be silly to pass up the opportunity.

[AusOdy]

Yep, get in touch with him via email...

should i contact Paul via email: admin@ppgl.com.au then saying from OzGolf??

[Captain Nemo]

Man I wish I lived in Sydney.. Might have to make a trip down for golf/ fitting weekend. I wish someone up here would be unbiased.. My pro shop pushes titleist like its going out of fashion and my local driving range is Callaway only..

Come down, stay at my place.
Im 10 mins from both the airport and his joint!

[Captain Nemo]

should i contact Paul via email: admin@ppgl.com.au then saying from OzGolf??

Deosnt matter re ozgolf as he's doing 50% off for pre-opening booking.....

[AusOdy]

^^ thanks, sent the email and will go for full bag

[Vice MC]

Is he only located in SYD atm

[Icestorm959]

should i contact Paul via email: admin@ppgl.com.au then saying from OzGolf??

Haha that's exactly what I did.

Bugger it - I'll probably sign up for the full set fitting as well.

[matty]

Is he only located in SYD atm

At the moment Vice. You know Sydney is the place to be.

[Vice MC]

Just found on the website, also in florida & mexico...guess its time for trip to the big smoke

[Icestorm959]

Just got a reply from James Osborn,

Apparently only customers of the old Purified Golf Pty Ltd get 50%, new customers get 20%.

Hmmm......

[AusOdy]

Just got a reply from James Osborn,

Apparently only customers of the old Purified Golf Pty Ltd get 50%, new customers get 20%.

Hmmm......

:?.... emailed James to clarify as well but nothing back atm....

[Dangals]

Just got a reply from James Osborn,

Apparently only customers of the old Purified Golf Pty Ltd get 50%, new customers get 20%.

Hmmm......

well that complicates matters

[Icestorm959]

27587

[Dotty]

I like this part the most. I wouldn't care if I they told me I needed a 13* driver with a ladies shaft as long as they prove it works!
Dibs.

[Captain Nemo]

Look, Im sure if you contact Paul, he will try look after Ozgolfers....

[AusOdy]

Look, Im sure if you contact Paul, he will try look after Ozgolfers....

but there is no designated email address to Paul direct, only a general email (admin@ppgl.com.au) which mine get replied from James.
can you help please?

[Icestorm959]

but there is no designated email address to Paul direct, only a general email (admin@ppgl.com.au) which mine get replied from James.
can you help please?

Yep, would be good to either get Paul's email, or if someone who can get in contact with Paul can help arrange an ozgolf 50% off discount code?

[Captain Nemo]

Ok, just got off the phone to Paul (he rang me....) as he's had quite a few emails/calls!
The 50% off pre-booking was for all "original Purified Golf customers".
However, he is willing to offer this to a certain no of guys from Ozgolf, but for a short time only.
If you mention you know me (Lawrence from Ozgolf) he will look after you.
His email addy is:
paul@ppgl.com.au

[Dangals]

done

[Captain Nemo]

Hey, and 20% off is nothing to be sneezed at either....

[Dangals]

no it isn't but 50% is a lot better :D - plus I am going to take my dad who is looking to replace his whole bag so he may end up ordering gear through him as well...

[Captain Nemo]

Well thats the key.
If your serious and you do a full kit assessment im sure they will look after you.
The stuff he told me over the phone about the setup will blow your mind.
Full putting studio as well with motion cameras etc.....
Hes also the Edel Wedge disty so will have all there gear.

[Dangals]

mate the info on the website had me drooling as it is.... you don't need to do anymore to ruin my keyboard :roll:

[Icestorm959]

Ok, just got off the phone to Paul (he rang me....) as he's had quite a few emails/calls!
The 50% off pre-booking was for all "original Purified Golf customers".
However, he is willing to offer this to a certain no of guys from Ozgolf, but for a short time only.
If you mention you know me (Lawrence from Ozgolf) he will look after you.
His email addy is:
paul@ppgl.com.au

Thanks alot Titty, Really appreciate it!

I've emailed Paul to organise a full set fitting!

[Captain Nemo]

Seriously what he told me, even for his own fitting when he went to the US recently for training was ridiculous....
I cant wait either, just want to find 1 driver and commit to it.

[Captain Nemo]

Thanks alot Titty, Really appreciate it!

I've emailed him to organise a full fitting.

Your welcome, hopefully he looks after you....

[mrbluu]

Ok, just got off the phone to Paul (he rang me....) as he's had quite a few emails/calls!
The 50% off pre-booking was for all "original Purified Golf customers".
However, he is willing to offer this to a certain no of guys from Ozgolf, but for a short time only.
If you mention you know me (Lawrence from Ozgolf) he will look after you.
His email addy is:
paul@ppgl.com.au

i just popped him an email....

[AusOdy]

Paul will have heaps email to reply.....
Thanks your help Lawrence!!

[Peppas]

I also sent him an email...

[rqrox]

Just booked my driver fitting in on 24th January. To say I can't wait to see what I end up with is an understatement.
Looking at a full bag fitting for the future too. Pretty happy with what I've got though.

I might come down with you Matty, What time as I'll flick an email off to him.

[KristianJ]

Booked in for full fitting on 22 Jan at 9:30am...

I'll have to find somewhere close for an arvo hit, but will think about that later on.

[FoxGolf]

Seriously what he told me, even for his own fitting when he went to the US recently for training was ridiculous....
I cant wait either, just want to find 1 driver and commit to it.

Think of all the buisinesses that will go broke, and all the guys on here that won't be able to move gear, if you guys find the right club and commit to it. :lol:

[Icestorm959]

Booked in 1 Feb!
Paul's already a legend in my book for his flexible salesmanship.

[mrbluu]

Y do you boys have to bring up the c word and ruin everything!!!

[Captain Nemo]

Booked in for full fitting on 22 Jan at 9:30am...

I'll have to find somewhere close for an arvo hit, but will think about that later on.

KJ I'm 10 mins from his setup, and I have cold beer and a putting green!
:)

[Captain Nemo]

Think of all the buisinesses that will go broke, and all the guys on here that won't be able to move gear, if you guys find the right club and commit to it. :lol:

Yeh but think of the massive firesale I'll have!!!!

[Dangals]

all booked in for my fitting early feb! super excited but bummed about it being so long away...

[benno_r]

Man I wish I lived in Sydney.. Might have to make a trip down for golf/ fitting weekend. I wish someone up here would be unbiased.. My pro shop pushes titleist like its going out of fashion and my local driving range is Callaway only..

You do old mate - cool clubs at Sanctuary Cove. Mate of mine got a driver fitting there and he now hits massive bombs. Be wary of the price of the gear though, he paid full retails for his anser and speeder. Just get the specs and hit Fergo / eBay hard.

[KristianJ]

KJ I'm 10 mins from his setup, and I have cold beer and a putting green!:) I know...:) Pondering a hit at Eastlakes, plus staying away from Power Golf afterwards at the moment though.

[Dotty]

Bad date, KJ.

You'll need to get re-measured, when the slope system comes in on the 23rd.

[GuyIncognito]

despite being annoyed he no longer comes up to New Brighton just thought I'd add to the list of very positive feedback for Paul's services - have had him do quite a few adjustments etc for me and his work has been excellent.

[8081travis]

Sent him an email, just down the road from me, about time I properly got measured! Hopefully he is still taking bookings

Thanks again Lawrence for getting this up and running

[Icestorm959]

Yeah totally awesome offering, can't wait (does this mean I shouldn't buy anything else until February though???)

[SirTop]

KJ I'm 10 mins from his setup, and I have cold beer and a putting green!
:)

Hey mate, this is Paul from New Brighton club right, ie he had his own business on the side of the club there?

Am sure it is, he had a workshop there and man he knows his stuff. He did some work for me on a previous set and shortened my woods, explaining why this was important and the benefits

He's a lovely bloke and is a true professional

Power Golf aren't going to be happy...

What's the 50% discount off, the time and fitting only I take it?

Shame I just got fitted for my new irons at the Ping HQ recently :)

[Steve]

Yes it is Paul from NB,

[Captain Nemo]

Toppy it's Paul he was a trainee at Kogarah (before your time)!
Powergolf will have nothing on this setup....

[SirTop]

Awesome ok thanks, can't wait and not far from my house now which is great.

Couple this with the new golf in the city place near my work and I'm as happy as a pig in mud

[wazandnic]

... just want to find 1 driver and commit to it.

This pitch nearly got me to sign up straight away! Can't wait to follow along and see if this sticks... 8)

And I know I'm not one to talk. ;) But more money for putters then hey



Power Golf aren't going to be happy...


I don't know, I reckon PG could a bit of overflow from him. I believe Paul worked at PG at one point. Prob still knows all the guys there I'd imagine (not sure good or bad??)

[Captain Nemo]

Yeh Waz he did work there for a while, just in sales.
I think there workshop is pretty basic.

[SirTop]

A lot of normal golfers, ie not forum level golfers lol, would probably prefer a big name golf store anyway, plus their store there is massive and a lot of gear, so both will serve different purposes I guess

[matty]

I might come down with you Matty, What time as I'll flick an email off to him.

I'll be staying in the city to go to work a couple of hours later. My fitting is at 3pm.

Might check Titty's green and beer out after the fitting though ;)

[Waggle]

Looking to get a new set early next year so I have just booked in for a full fitting early feb. I can not wait. I've heard nothing but good things about Paul and his services and this sounds like it is going to be quite a successful venture.

[serrz]

what are you guys mostly booked into? Driver fitting?

[Captain Nemo]

Just driver for me.
I'm taking my 3 heads (R1 black, RBZ Stage 2, 6 shafts 2 Ping Anser 4 shafts) and hitting them all for him.
If he can't find me the right/best combo, he will build me one.
Then I'll have one hell of a firesale!!!!

[Peppas]

Argh I still have to book in... just waiting to confirm my days off work next Feb/March.

[8081travis]

I booked in whole bag for 200 you can't beat that

[Peppas]

I booked, just waiting for a confirmation email now...?

[8081travis]

Anyone been for their fitting yet?

[8081travis]

Ignore that just remembered he is only opening on the 20th

[Captain Nemo]

23rd for me.

[8081travis]

Got mine on the 24th can't wait

[mrbluu]

28th for me....

[Peppas]

I'm booked in on the 27th!

[KristianJ]

22nd...

Anyone in the 2 days before or will I be the OZgolf guinea pig?

[Captain Nemo]

Looks like your it!
Anyone wat to swing by my place for a beer and a putt, flick me a pm, I'm 10 mins away from him.

[davepuppies]

I think Matty is on then20th

[mrbluu]

Looks like your it!Anyone wat to swing by my place for a beer and a putt, flick me a pm, I'm 10 mins away from him. I'll come over....

[KristianJ]

Looks like your it!Anyone wat to swing by my place for a beer and a putt, flick me a pm, I'm 10 mins away from him. I think I'll drop in instead of having an arvo hit...either way I'll probably have to deal with an M5 car park to get home.

[Icestorm959]

Im in Feb! Plenty of guinea pigs before me then!

[matty]

I think Matty is on then20th

No, 24th for me.

[Dangals]

yeah I am not till the 8th Feb and the wait is killing me... really looking forward to it

[TS]

30th for me.

[KristianJ]

Changed my booking to a non-medal Sat morning in March...a mate of mine down in the Shire has invited me down for a hit and Wed is the only day next week where he's free.

Binh, I should still be good for that social 9 at 4pm.

[Icestorm959]

Changed my booking to a non-medal Sat morning in March...a mate of mine down in the Shire has invited me down for a hit and Wed is the only day next week where he's free.

Binh, I should still be good for that social 9 at 4pm.

You just didn't want to be the first guinea pig :wink:

[Captain Nemo]

Looks like I'm it!
As a side note, our assistant pro asked if I knew of Paul, I told him yeh as he was a trainee at the club years ago.
He's heard through the industry that this is some sort of setup, will shit on the Cally one just up the road.....
Hope it's as good as everyone talking it up to be!

[Dangals]

Looks like I'm it!
As a side note, our assistant pro asked if I knew of Paul, I told him yeh as he was a trainee at the club years ago.
He's heard through the industry that this is some sort of setup, will shit on the Cally one just up the road.....
Hope it's as good as everyone talking it up to be!

good luck with the fitting tomorrow L - I am chomping at the bit to have mine in a couple of weeks!

[wazandnic]

How'd the fitting go T?

[Captain Nemo]

Went very well, was a real eye opener.
I met all the crew, Beaver Menzies was in there as well.
I have pic's of everything, just need to get them off my phone.
Very worthwhile.
They are still setting up etc, but have a good range of shafts, mostly high end stuff.
Massive range of iron shafts as well...
Latest Trackman gear....

[Dangals]

You just did the driver fitting didn't you L?

What was their recommendation in the end?

[AusOdy]

great to hear L, thats why now u r having phase 2 & 3.... post some pics please

[Captain Nemo]

You just did the driver fitting didn't you L?

What was their recommendation in the end?

Yep, just driver, i was there for 2 hrs.
Hit my 2 (Anser & R1) with all my shafts and got data.
Then tried diff combos etc....

[Peppas]

Yep, just driver, i was there for 2 hrs.
Hit my 2 (Anser & R1) with all my shafts and got data.
Then tried diff combos etc....

So it went well then? Now that you're selling them both in phase 2 and 3? :)

[Captain Nemo]

Im selling everything....

[Steve57]

Im selling everything....

And buying?

[Peppas]

Im selling everything....

And then...??

[Captain Nemo]

And buying?

Nothing, taking up Lawn Bowls....

[Peppas]

Nothing, taking up Lawn Bowls....

Crap maybe I should cancel my fitting if this is the effect it has???

[Steve57]

Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells!

[wazandnic]

Nothing, taking up Lawn Bowls....

Hey mate I have been contemplating this for a little while now... Let me know where you join up. Club Fees are surely cheaper plus the money saved not buying any gear... and also the beer at each end... there are so many advantages! ;)

[Dotty]

Hey mate I have been contemplating this for a little while now... Let me know where you join up. Club Fees are surely cheaper plus the money saved not buying any gear... and also the beer at each end... there are so many advantages! ;)
And you can get hip replacement info from every second member. ;)

Take Jado too, and see if you can get a 2-for-1 deal.

[matty]

Yep, just driver, i was there for 2 hrs.
Hit my 2 (Anser & R1) with all my shafts and got data.
Then tried diff combos etc....

C'mon mate, you've got to do better than that.
What surprised you re the equipment you tried. Anything that had a big impact on readings that you didn't expect.
I've got mine tomorrow at 3pm. Gee me up a bit titty. Might pop around for a quick brewski afterwards if you're home.

[Captain Nemo]

Hey mate I have been contemplating this for a little while now... Let me know where you join up. Club Fees are surely cheaper plus the money saved not buying any gear... and also the beer at each end... there are so many advantages! ;)

Sounds good to me, would your hip stand up to the rigours?

[wazandnic]

And you can get hip replacement info from every second member. ;)
.

Exactly! 8)

[Captain Nemo]

C'mon mate, you've got to do better than that.
What surprised you re the equipment you tried. Anything that had a big impact on readings that you didn't expect.
I've got mine tomorrow at 3pm. Gee me up a bit titty. Might pop around for a quick brewski afterwards if you're home.

Id love to get the pics up as they show the full effect but somethings wrong with my MAC....
Once we settled on a shaft and others in the same type of spec we tried in different heads.
He has some that have just been released.
Jetspeed was a major disappointment but some surprised me, like the new Adams and Exotics heads.....

[matty]

I hear that a lot about Macs.

[AusOdy]

.....Jetspeed was a major disappointment but some surprised me, like the new Adams and Exotics heads.....

now i hate myself more for changing appointment to 3 weeks after.......

[wazandnic]

... but some surprised me, like the new Adams and Exotics heads.....

So will you be joining Ernie??



Sounds good to me, would your hip stand up to the rigours?

yeah I can get one of those claw things so I don't actually have to bend over! ;)

[Captain Nemo]

So will you be joining Ernie?? ;)
Maybe, maybe not....

[wazandnic]

Just working out the last few details of the contract are you?? 8)

[Captain Nemo]

Something like that....
;)

[Steve57]

Callaway Big Bertha?

[Captain Nemo]

Callaway Big Bertha?

No.

[Icestorm959]

Super mysterious!

[Captain Nemo]

Yet to be released.... ;)

[Dangals]

hmmm...i25 perhaps?

[wazandnic]

hmmm...i25 perhaps?

aha...this could be a good bet... Titty is a Ping man... despite what his name suggests! ;)

[Captain Nemo]

hmmm...i25 perhaps?
No.

[JADO75]

Covert 2.0?

[mrbluu]

Covert 2.0?

SLDR

[JADO75]

SLDR has been released you boofhead

[Captain Nemo]

Covert 2.0?
No.


SLDR
No.

[JADO75]

Bio cell +?
Exotics xcg7?

[Captain Nemo]

Pics:

[3oneday]

Xcg7

[wazandnic]

Re: that last picture... so you have to hit over a TV aerial do you???

;)

[rqrox]

L, Whats with the cloak and daggers?? what combo worked best for you? I've got my full bag fitting on Sat and can't wait.

Is it worth playing a round to start with so you swing is grooved?

[Captain Nemo]

No cloak and daggers.
Exotics XCG7 Beta with Oban Revenge.....
Jadho wins .... ;)

[backintheswing]

10.5*?

[Captain Nemo]

it adjusts.
9.0 for me.
He sends exact specs to USA, its gets built over there.
They find a head that measures exactly what you order exactly, like the tour vans....

[rqrox]

It's supposed to be a bloody good bit of gear!

So I guess you ordered it on the spot? about how long will it take for them to make it?

[Captain Nemo]

It's supposed to be a bloody good bit of gear!

So I guess you ordered it on the spot? about how long will it take for them to make it?

Yep.
21 days.

[matty]

No cloak and daggers.
Exotics XCG7 Beta with Oban Revenge.....
3od wins .... ;)

Never heard of any of it. Off to dr google!

[Captain Nemo]

Gave me the best numbers, thats good enough for me!

[matty]

That's what I was about to ask. Clear winner or were others close and it came down to feel?
Any surprise with the shafts you hit?

[Icestorm959]

After a google search - apparently Tour Edge make some really good woods?

Very under-the-radar brand.

Titty - how much better was the Tour Edge compared to your existing set up? Night and day, or 0-5%?
Did they have the Big Bertha Alpha there to try?

[Captain Nemo]

It was a clear winner.
I tried the shaft with 4 other heads and they weren't close in terms of performance and feel...
I really liked my Anser/Kyoshi White, and to me the setup looked very similar visually head wise and the shafts felt close.
The Revenge gave me better numbers and flight.
I was really disappointed with the TM Jetspeed head, felt horrible....?

[JADO75]

No cloak and daggers.
Exotics XCG7 Beta with Oban Revenge.....
3od wins .... ;)

Try jado wins, a few above 3od.

[Captain Nemo]

Try jado wins, a few above 3od.
Fixed for you bud!

[3oneday]

Had an XCG6, great drivers. Hold value like an Adams, but great drivers :)

[matty]

Did you hit the SLDR and the other usual suspects? Did they seem to have them all there?

[Captain Nemo]

Did you hit the SLDR and the other usual suspects? Did they seem to have them all there?
Hit the sldr, did nothing for me...
He's having trouble with Ping and Titleist atm, he'll tell you about it.

[matty]

Never hit a ping, the 910 I liked, the 13 was crap. No big loss to me.

[8081travis]

Was down for my full bag fitting today but unfortunately software problems didn't allow me to get fit. Had my putter fit which was a great experience and can't wait to go back and get it all done. Boys in there are absolute champs, would recommend to anyone in Sydney, go and get involved

[Peppas]

Was down for my full bag fitting today but unfortunately software problems didn't allow me to get fit. Had my putter fit which was a great experience and can't wait to go back and get it all done. Boys in there are absolute champs, would recommend to anyone in Sydney, go and get involved

What was wrong with the software??? Did they say how long to get it fixed?

[wazandnic]

What did they do with your putter??

[Captain Nemo]

Sorry to hear that Travis.
I ducked in there around 10.30 to chat to them and their whole IT was down......
Saw the putter fitting room finished, how good is it!
Roll a putt, have it analysed, get it the head loft/lie tweaked, roll another.....etc.
Awesome they can do it on the spot in the same room, cool technology as well.

[8081travis]

No trackman was having a problem loading on the multiple screens so couldnt get fit for driver, irons, wedges etc.

However did a putter fitting using the laser technology, amazing where I thought I was aiming, was fit and speced for a new putter

[Captain Nemo]

Good to hear you got something out of the drive over anyway...
What do yoiu think of the whole setup?
I had photos taken with the guys in there by Beaver Menzies as their "official first" customer this morning.....hilarious!!!

[wazandnic]

Funny stuff Titty.



What putters did they have in there??

[Captain Nemo]

http://machineputters.gostorego.com

[8081travis]

I was fit using the Edel putters

[Kizza]

Do they offer fittings with the big brands or only the custom made?

[Captain Nemo]

Most major brands, and some exotic stuff...

[JADO75]

Titty, what happens if the driver they set you up for doesn't work outside of their lab? Do you hit balls outside at all in the testing or just in the lab?

[Captain Nemo]

Titty, what happens if the driver they set you up for doesn't work outside of their lab? Do you hit balls outside at all in the testing or just in the lab?

Do the Ozgolf thing, and sell/trade it!
No outside testing, just got to trust Trackman and the no's I suppose.....

[JADO75]

I know Drummond etc hit the magic buttons on their machines, that's not something these guys would do?

[Steve]

I know that they did get a outside trackman with the set up, so the proving on the range may be a thing to come

[8081travis]

It's going to be a great set up when it's done, really top blokes can't see them trimming the numbers.

[matty]

Had my fitting today. A couple of technical issues with Trackman but we got the job done in the end. The guys are very enthusiastic and knowledgeable.
I was hitting it (and have been lately) like a busted. Paul tried a few things with my set up which helped some things and not others.

[matty]

I know Drummond etc hit the magic buttons on their machines, that's not something these guys would do?

Not a chance. You know what the flight of your ball is going to be. It was spot on every time. I hit one low left off the heel and called it. Matched up perfectly, as did all the shots.

[matty]

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And this is what I ended up with.

[JADO75]

No doubt it's a great set up, for me personally I'd like to see what's doing outside & with trackman

[Dangals]

Nice Matty - another exotics driver ... Keen to hit this one now.

How big of an improvement did you see in distance/dispersion?

[JADO75]

Great shaft the kiyoshi.
Two fittings, two exotics?

[matty]

Nice Matty - another exotics driver ... Keen to hit this one now.

How big of an improvement did you see in distance/dispersion?

It was the first time I hit a SLDR and really liked the feel off the face. The exotics felt just as good but even hotter. There is a crispness with the contact but not the tinny feel of some drivers. I used to think the 910 felt a bit tinny.
Distance, no huge difference. Everything was reasonably similar but the exotics/kyoshi combo got it out there an extra 5m on overage maybe.
The clincher was dispersion. The combo definately straigtened things up for me and reduced spin by about 5-700.
I've really got some work to do on my driver set up. I don't have any spine tilt away and hit down on it by 5-6 degrees. We eventually sorted that out somewhat.
Apparently what feels like setting up to hit the mother of all draws for me is the correct driver swing. Apparently I hit the driver like I would a six iron. Not good.
Anyhow, the combo also felt the best. So feel and numbers added up.

[matty]

Great shaft the kiyoshi.
Two fittings, two exotics?

It feels hot off the face. The SLDR felt really good like that. The exotic was a noticeable notch better. I'd never even heard of them or the shaft!

[Dangals]

Mate that sounds like it is going to be great if you get the setup working better.

[JADO75]

Two Oban's too

[matty]

Two Oban's too

Can't remember the others I tried. Tried the one McIlroy hits but I think his is tipped a fair bit. The Oban felt very solid.
Have you hit these?

[Captain Nemo]

I know Drummond etc hit the magic buttons on their machines, that's not something these guys would do?

Jadho, I'm no expert but I think this setup is a touch better than Drummonds......
Trackmans one of the best system going round.

[Captain Nemo]

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And this is what I ended up with.

:smt023

[Captain Nemo]

It feels hot off the face. The SLDR felt really good like that. The exotic was a noticeable notch better. I'd never even heard of them or the shaft!

I echo what Matty said, the Exotics felt hotter and more solid.
I tried 5 other heads with the Revenge, this felt and setup the best.
The new Adams was very close second....

[serrz]

Titty how much damage was the new driver? You ordered head and shaft?

[Matt 3 Jab]

I'm no expert with launch numbers or any new stuff, but the fact they have more brands and OEM's allows people to try brands they usually wouldn't

TEE have always been around and I used one for a while and it felt great. Maybe they make a good product.

Will be good to see how others go and what irons they suggest / fit

[matty]

Paul also said they're going to have a beer and pizza night and set up a comp with putting, driving, iron play at targets and add up who is closest at the end. Also a chance to muck around on the monitors. Should be fun with the Sydney ozgolf crew there.

[Dangals]

Paul also said they're going to have a beer and pizza night and set up a comp with putting, driving, iron play at targets and add up who is closest at the end. Also a chance to muck around on the monitors. Should be fun with the Sydney ozgolf crew there.

That sounds great - little bit of banter would certainly be present on an evening like that

[Matt 3 Jab]

I'd be in for that. Long drive and iron play. Yes!

[matty]

It'd be fun. You'd probably have me covered for the Last matt. I'm tightening up in my old age!

[Matt 3 Jab]

Haha 8 iron 170 covers me all day long!

Still be a fun night.

[8081travis]

Paul also said they're going to have a beer and pizza night and set up a comp with putting, driving, iron play at targets and add up who is closest at the end. Also a chance to muck around on the monitors. Should be fun with the Sydney ozgolf crew there. Think that idea came up when we the IT guys were trying to reboot, Beaver challenged the boys and myself to putting comp! He won easy, blamed that he rolled the green himself.

[matty]

[QUOTE=Matt 3 Jab;1065592]Haha 8 iron 170 covers me all day long!

Still be a fun night.[/Quote.]

Just take 20 off that!

[matty]

Think that idea came up when we the IT guys were trying to reboot, Beaver challenged the boys and myself to putting comp! He won easy, blamed that he rolled the green himself.

No wonder he's keen. Says he's getting fat already because of the pizza. Didn'tlook too fat to me!

[JADO75]

Jadho, I'm no expert but I think this setup is a touch better than Drummonds......
Trackmans one of the best system going round.

I believe their setup certainly is better, more pointing out that Drummond hit the magic button to show you've hit a driver you're testing 300m with a draw when you know you hit it shitty & with your normal cut.
You & Matty couldn't be anymore different when it comes to swinging driver yet they put both of you in the same head? They also put you with the Revenge in 5 different heads but the Revenge would play differently in each head. Nothing personal brotha, I just find it weird that out of all the brands of shafts & drivers they put you guys in the same head & shaft brand. Exotics do make some really nice gear but I smell an arrangement between Exotics & Pure?

[JADO75]

Can't remember the others I tried. Tried the one McIlroy hits but I think his is tipped a fair bit. The Oban felt very solid.
Have you hit these?

I have hit the Kiyoshi Black, like it plenty & its probably one of the only shafts left that I haven't owned & want. Been an Oban fan for awhile, I've got 2x Devotion's, a Kiyoshi White & Purple.

[davepuppies]

Will be interesting to see what the next few recommendations are......

[matty]

I believe their setup certainly is better, more pointing out that Drummond hit the magic button to show you've hit a driver you're testing 300m with a draw when you know you hit it shitty & with your normal cut.
You & Matty couldn't be anymore different when it comes to swinging driver yet they put both of you in the same head? They also put you with the Revenge in 5 different heads but the Revenge would play differently in each head. Nothing personal brotha, I just find it weird that out of all the brands of shafts & drivers they put you guys in the same head & shaft brand. Exotics do make some really nice gear but I smell an arrangement between Exotics & Pure?

You couldn't be more wrong. The reason we got the head is because the numbers don't lie. I hadn't had it offered to me to hit. I asked to hit it after reading reviews. The sldr felt good but the exotics felt hotter with a touch less spin. There's no button. TThey'rejust standing there watching, swapping heads and shafts with the data coming up on the screen.

[JADO75]

Will be interesting to see what the next few recommendations are......

My guess is an Exotics with an Oban shaft, hope I'm wrong though

[8081travis]

My guess is an Exotics with an Oban shaft, hope I'm wrong though They have so much more than just exotics/Oban don't reckon they are pushing a product

[mrbluu]

I'm booked in as well and I'm concerned that that its 2 from 2 for exotics drivers, this is a little concerning for me.......I will.find out more on tuesday arvo...

[Steve]

Well they are classified as a GI driver

[Peppas]

I'm up on Monday arvo, will see how I go...

[Ron Burgundy]

Two in a row could very easily be just a coincidence. I wouldn't have thought they'd be pulling those kind of shenanigans straight out of the gate with their first couple of fittings. They're not listed anywhere I could find as preferred suppliers/distributors etc for TEE or Oban and both of those companies make great gear regardless.

I got fitted into a kiyoshi black at GCI at Indooroopilly. Only found out after I bought one through them that they're the Aussie distributed for Oban. I was (and still am) very happy with it, but that made me wonder a bit if I was steered in that direction.

[Captain Nemo]

Coincidence, I doubt it.
When it was all wrapped up, I asked to hit other heads with the Revenge (jetspeed was one from memory) and they weren't better.
As for the shafts, he has a booklet, full range, and each shaft has been cpm'd by the company in the US (they are individually labelled) so once they found the right cpm, I tried 3 other "brands" of shafts in that range of cpm of stiffness and ball flight/spin and the Oban to me felt and performed the best.
Believe me, I asked to try the AD DI, motore speeder something and even the new veylix shaft they just didn't work in that head?
They have a shitload of heads, I doubt they would steer you into 1 product as they order from the manufacturer in the US to the specs.

[Steve]

How does their price for the equipment that you purchase, stack up against other mean of supply

[mrbluu]

Well they are classified as a GI driver In golf GI, actually means fault hiding as opposed to game improvement.

[JADO75]

Two in a row could very easily be just a coincidence. I wouldn't have thought they'd be pulling those kind of shenanigans straight out of the gate with their first couple of fittings. They're not listed anywhere I could find as preferred suppliers/distributors etc for TEE or Oban and both of those companies make great gear regardless.

I got fitted into a kiyoshi black at GCI at Indooroopilly. Only found out after I bought one through them that they're the Aussie distributed for Oban. I was (and still am) very happy with it, but that made me wonder a bit if I was steered in that direction.

There's no denying they make sensational shafts & yes I bet you were steered towards Oban

[JADO75]

Double post

[JADO75]

Well they are classified as a GI driver

The Beta model is 440cc & geared towards the better player

[Steve]

The Beta model is 440cc & geared towards the better player

Yes, for sure. ;)

[matty]

Jesus, talk about conspiracy theorists.
One way to solve it is to ask not to hit those brands. Then you can stick to the usual stuff.

[Captain Nemo]

I hit the Beta and stock one, Beta was better on the eye and very solid feel and sound.
The stock one didn't fit my eye, different shape.
The new Adams, can't remember the name was a very nice looking head as well.

[JADO75]

Jesus, talk about conspiracy theorists.
One way to solve it is to ask not to hit those brands. Then you can stick to the usual stuff.

You don't think its odd? SLDR is the lowest spinning head ever made yet the Exotics spun 700rpm less? There's another conspiracy haha

[Captain Nemo]

But is the SLDR really the lowest spinning head ever made?

[Steve]

No that's called " publicity "

[JADO75]

Pretty sure it is & the 430cc spins less than the 460cc

[Captain Nemo]

Hahaha, the TMAG propaganda!
Wait till Callaway hear about that!

[mrbluu]

Then thing is that Matty and Titty have such different swings, I'm surprised they ended with the same head. Anyway I will go in on tuesday with and open mind and will report back.

[Icestorm959]

Hmmm.... my friend was recently (4 weeks ago) fitted with an entire new set of Tour Edges which he showed me (I had never even heard of the brand until 4 weeks ago to be honest), including (you guessed it) an exotics driver. Now I can believe that they have some of the best woods/hybrids going around, but even irons and wedges??
Maybe they have a special promo with Australian fitters going on?

[Captain Nemo]

Pretty sure it is & the 430cc spins less than the 460cc
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+the+lowest+spinning+golf+driver+head+ev er+made%3F

[Captain Nemo]

Then thing is that Matty and Titty have such different swings, I'm surprised they ended with the same head. Anyway I will go in on tuesday with and open mind and will report back.

What about Bubba V Mahan
Or Scott V Duffner....
You can't use that analogy!

[JADO75]

The two pairs are both contracted to the same company. Duffer plays a D2, Scott a D3. In regards to Ping its either a G25 or an Anser

[serrz]

Will be interesting to hear how the fitted drivers perform on the course....hopefully exactly as trackman said...

[serrz]

Adam's new driver....I think its just called the XTD...

[JADO75]

Do they test which ball suits you best or once they dial you in for a particular set up, test for which ball best suits that set up?

[Captain Nemo]

Yep, they ask what ball you usually play and use that.

[JADO75]

Will be interesting to hear how the fitted drivers perform on the course....hopefully exactly as trackman said...

To each their own in regards to forking over your hard earned to get fitted but being fitted indoors can't compare to being fitted outdoors in my opinion.

[matty]

Why is it so hard to believe two guys get the same head (no homo) with completely different shaft specs?
Sounds like some think nothing can be better than the sldr. Weird.
I really liked the sldr, gave the best reading until the exotic was tested. The exotics gave a bit better ball speed and I got the spin down to 2100.

[Captain Nemo]

I totally agree about the outdoor testing.
Problem is with most company demo days is they just have the stock 3 or 4 shafts in diff flex.
These guys have a bunch of diff branded shafts and each has been cpm'd so I suppose they can dial it in a bit more detailed.

[Steve]

Yes, both have been fitted with shafts that are not on offer by the normal club selection

[JADO75]

Not sure if you're referring to me Matty in regards to the SLDR but while I rate it enormously its probably not the best driver I've ever hit, I'm actually going to grab a Covert 2.0 soon enough.
I might be the only one saying it but I'm sure most would be thinking the same thing, not saying its dodgy but it does sit funny. Shafts specs are different but they're from the same brand? Oban Revenge has been out for six years yet there wasn't anything better suited?

[JADO75]

I totally agree about the outdoor testing.
Problem is with most company demo days is they just have the stock 3 or 4 shafts in diff flex.
These guys have a bunch of diff branded shafts and each has been cpm'd so I suppose they can dial it in a bit more detailed.

Went with some mates to a Callaway demo last night & they didn't even have the new fubuki shafts that come stock with the new Bertha's & didn't have any X flexes, was piss poor.

[oldracer]

Would of thought ball flight outdoors was mandatory in any decent purchase, I hit like sh!t indoors

[Icestorm959]

Went with some mates to a Callaway demo last night & they didn't even have the new fubuki shafts that come stock with the new Bertha's & didn't have any X flexes, was piss poor.

Jado - Did they have the actual Big Bertha and Big Bertha Alphas?

Titty, Matty - Did Pure Golf Performance have them? Probably keen to try the BBA out the most.

[matty]

Not sure if you're referring to me Matty in regards to the SLDR but while I rate it enormously its probably not the best driver I've ever hit, I'm actually going to grab a Covert 2.0 soon enough.
I might be the only one saying it but I'm sure most would be thinking the same thing, not saying its dodgy but it does sit funny. Shafts specs are different but they're from the same brand? Oban Revenge has been out for six years yet there wasn't anything better suited?

You and binh.
Anyway, we'll get together soon enough and have a hit of them at the same time.
Will be interesting what binh says considering he gives it a whack.

[BUSHY]

Not sure if you're referring to me Matty in regards to the SLDR but while I rate it enormously its probably not the best driver I've ever hit, I'm actually going to grab a Covert 2.0 soon enough.
I might be the only one saying it but I'm sure most would be thinking the same thing, not saying its dodgy but it does sit funny. Shafts specs are different but they're from the same brand? Oban Revenge has been out for six years yet there wasn't anything better suited?

I can see both sides, it does look suss but at the same time it's not a big enough sample to say HOW suss. Although with all that gear there the last thing I would have expected was 2 TEE/Oban combos in a row. I know at GCI I was fitted to a flex profile first and then tested them all for feel outside on the range and on the Trackman. In the end the ball flights were similar but the choice was mine on a feel basis.

Very interested to see how this evolves.

[JADO75]

Jado - Did they have the actual Big Bertha and Big Bertha Alphas?

Titty, Matty - Did Pure Golf Performance have them? Probably keen to try the BBA out the most.

They did mate, I didn't hit them due to a busted hip but i've watched my mates enough to know what works & what doesn't. They were very underwhelming to be honest, maybe with a decent shaft strapped in but not sold on them yet.

[mrbluu]

You and binh.
Anyway, we'll get together soon enough and have a hit of them at the same time.
Will be interesting what binh says considering he gives it a whack.

Like I said I will be there on tuesday and will be going there with an open mind.

[Johnny Canuck]

Like I said I will be there on tuesday and will be going there with an open mind.

And hopefully and open wallet by the sounds of it. Hopefully the exotic fitting goes well.

[Hatchman]

I'm a sceptical prick when it comes to these computer monitoring devices and the possible manipulation of results by the operator to push a certin agenda. I saw it heaps with Dyno tuning. Only difference was it was more about dick measuring for HP numbers as opposed to doctoring those numbers to sell a particular engine.I'd like to see these places that use trackman or similar devices have the user be the only one to touch the device once the test session starts to guarantee no manipulation of the results. Not sure if that's possible or not?

I'm with JADO in being able to test hit out doors to see the results. The computer screen is ok to gain some data and narrow the field but to visually see ball flight and shape is very important rather than a calculated line on a screen.

As for Matty and Titty being fitted with the same make head and manufacture of shaft. The first reaction is the eyes do open and make one go hmmm. I like many will watch this thread with great interest to see what others are fitted with.

It may be just pure coincidence or the TEE gear with the Oban shaft may be the ducks guts. It's quite possible that a relatively unknown brand (TEE for one) could make some of the best gear around and very few would really know due to the crushing marketing force of TMAG, Callaway, Titleist and Ping to a lesser extent. All but a small minority would bother to even try another another brand.

Not sure if Matty and Titty keep stats on hit fairways or effective drives but it would be interesting to know how they fare with the new combos one gamed.

[Peppas]

Well, I'm up on Monday and as all the Sydney guys have seen my swing... there should be no chance I get fitted into the same head/shaft as Matty or L. Looking forward to it though, and getting a better idea of what I should be ho'ing (besides lawn bowls probably).

[8081travis]

I got an email from the boys today, saying my fitting would be free because I waited around for them yesterday when they were trying to fix track man

I currently play an Oban so be interesting to see where we go, putter fitting was a real eye opener, measured where I was aiming using a laser, about a foot an a half left the first time, sand distance second time and then a foot right. They then had me roll puts and adjusted, loft, head weight length. When aligned with fitted putter dead straight 4 times in a row, can't really manipulate those results

[JADO75]

The not being able to see your ballflight outdoors is my reason for not wanting shell out good money to give Pure a shake.

[JADO75]

I got an email from the boys today, saying my fitting would be free because I waited around for them yesterday when they were trying to fix track man

I currently play an Oban so be interesting to see where we go, putter fitting was a real eye opener, measured where I was aiming using a laser, about a foot an a half left the first time, sand distance second time and then a foot right. They then had me roll puts and adjusted, loft, head weight length. When aligned with fitted putter dead straight 4 times in a row, can't really manipulate those results

Drummond sized putter cups? Haha

[BUSHY]

The not being able to see your ballflight outdoors is my reason for not wanting shell out good money to give Pure a shake.

I'm with you regarding ballflight. However I'm not aware of Trackman and Flightscope being able to doctor the results to suit the operator.


For the guys that have been, how did they do wedge fitting?

[8081travis]

Drummond sized putter cups? Haha Putted to a black screen with a dot on it, laser aligning to the dot

[D22marshall]

I meet Paul at the shop when they first got it and he was telling me about the exotics and how good they are so no surprised they are pushing them a bit he send me an email about best heads for swing speeds I will try and dig it up and post it.

[BUSHY]

I meet Paul at the shop when they first got it and he was telling me about the exotics and how good they are so no surprised they are pushing them a bit he send me an email about best heads for swing speeds I will try and dig it up and post it.

I definitely agree that they're really good heads, I hit one with an AD-DI and a Fubuki and was really surprised at how good they felt off the face. I think what is odd here for those that have questioned it is that 2 fittings have resulted in 2 TEE/OBAN combos from (described by others) golfers with different swings.

[JADO75]

Makes me even more suss knowing he was pushing exotics, no denying they make great gear though

[D22marshall]

Ball speed with low spinDrivers:For players 90mph and up- Exotics XCG6- SLDR- Nike Covert- Ping G25- X Hot/X Hot Pro

[D22marshall]

Numbers don't lie and all there offerings are top notch so I guess if you want the best set up possible they will sort you out

[matty]

I had my data emailed to me earlier today. The Trackman data shows everything about your swing but I'll use the averages given.
I first hit a dozen or so with my current driver, a Callaway xtreme 9* with matrix ozik hd6 XX, while they collected data.
Then we worked through other head/shaft combos for an hour or so until I asked to hit the exotic head after seeing titty end up with that.
Worked through another half dozen or so shafts until we settled on the combo of Exotic XCG Beta 9* with Kyoshi Oban Black 75 X.
My SS was 1.5mph slower with the Exotic (felt tired by then), but the ball speed was 2.2mph faster.
My average spin rate with the xtreme was 3620 then dropped to an average of 2720 with the new combo.
Attack angle slightly down with both. Would like to reverse that but buggered if I know how to.
Smash factor on average 1.44 with the callaway, 1.48 with exotic.
5m tighter dispersion with new combo, 13m more carry, 20m more overall distance.
Was presented with a fact of life too. My SS has dropped about 5mph over the last 5 years but go to expect that, being the wrong side of 40 :lol:
Got to wait 3 long weeks until the new toy arrives with a nice pom pom headcover.