WA Champs - Friday Golf (North vs South)

[Nuffie]

6th is Jackson

[hocko]

6th is Jackson

Yoss

[Nuffie]

7th is Idgolfguy

[hocko]

7th is Idgolfguy

TWM

[Nuffie]

8th is TommyG, leaving last pick as Mubabban

[hocko]

8th is TommyG

Jeffo

[hocko]

8th is TommyG, leaving last pick as Mubabban

Mubabban and Shadesy

[LeftyHoges]

Hocko and Lefty, together at last.

Over/Under for broken clubs in that pairing?

Edit: ah, different groups. Never mind.

[hocko]

Righto my first pick out of the hat for groups

[hocko]

Hocko and Lefty, together at last.

Over/Under for broken clubs in that pairing?

No mate, selecting groups now

[hocko]

Group 1;
Shadesy V Mubabban
TWM V IDG

[Shadesy]

My head hurts?

[hocko]

Group 2;
Lefty V Ashes
Yoss V Jackson

[hocko]

Group 3;
Simmsy V GK
Shorty V Nuffy

[LeftyHoges]

My head hurts?

Are you not sure whether your head hurts or not?

[Ashes]

Hope Lefty was wearing brown pants when the matchups got named.

[hocko]

Group 4;
Jeffo V TommyG
Tiger V Bergsy

[hocko]

Group 5;
Hocko V NK
Canuck V SMS

[hocko]

These have all been drawn from hats so there is no bitching.
Good luck to all.
Let the side bets begin.

[MegaWatty]

When is this?

[hocko]

When is this?

Next year

[Johnny Canuck]

Group 5;Hocko V NKCanuck V SMSThe Cup is on the line and coming West.

[MegaWatty]

Next year

Ok. Thanks. Am I allowed to play?

[Jeffo1123]

Group 4;Jeffo V TommyGTiger V Bergsy Tiger would be one of the most dangerous matchplay players in this. We're coming for ya Tommy and Bergsey!!

[Ashes]

Group 2;
Lefty V Ashes
Yoss V Jackson

I don't want this to come across like I'm not confident, but...

Lefty, please don't **** me too hard.

[LeftyHoges]

I don't want this to come across like I'm not confident, but...

Lefty, please don't **** me too hard.

I'm willing to negotiate a mercy rule. 3/2 the heaviest defeat that is allowed to be inflicted. If one of us gets up by more they give a wink. If the opposition replies with a wink then the deal is on and we coast to get to a 3/2 margin.

Deal?

As an aside, I'm giving you how many shots? I'm off 3.

[Shadesy]

I'm willing to negotiate a mercy rule. 3/2 the heaviest defeat that is allowed to be inflicted. If one of us gets up by more they give a wink. If the opposition replies with a wink then the deal is on and we coast to get to a 3/2 margin. Deal? As an aside, I'm giving you how many shots? I'm off 3. Captains have agreed to 3/4 caps I believe.

[hocko]

Captains have agrees too 3/4 caps I believe.

No, anchors.

[Johnny Canuck]

Get f*cked!

[Ashes]

I'm willing to negotiate a mercy rule. 3/2 the heaviest defeat that is allowed to be inflicted. If one of us gets up by more they give a wink. If the opposition replies with a wink then the deal is on and we coast to get to a 3/2 margin.

Deal?

As an aside, I'm giving you how many shots? I'm off 3.

Geez, you've jumped on that mercy deal quickly. You nervous?

You'll be handing me 15 shots. My best for the year is 83 at Cott and worst a 112 at Araluen (my last Ozgolf start). Golflink spread is 88 to 97 in the same period.

[Shadesy]

What's mubbaban's anchor?

[hocko]

Geez, you've jumped on that mercy deal quickly. You nervous?

You'll be handing me 15 shots. My best for the year is 83 at Cott and worst a 112 at Araluen (my last Ozgolf start). Golflink spread is 88 to 97 in the same period.

He only needs to be 9 shots better than you Asho!

[LeftyHoges]

Geez, you've jumped on that mercy deal quickly. You nervous?

You'll be handing me 15 shots. My best for the year is 83 at Cott and worst a 112 at Araluen (my last Ozgolf start). Golflink spread is 88 to 97 in the same period.

Just trying to be a gracious Southern citizen. The deal expires pretty quickly though so if it's not accepted, it's no holds barred.

By comparison, my best for the year is 69 at Dartmoor and a pair of 83's at Portland.

And if anchors are used I'll be off 2.

Some of these games are tasty matchups, but there's no doubt that this one should be described as a 'pasty' matchup.

[Shadesy]

Just trying to be a gracious Southern citizen. The deal expires pretty quickly though so if it's not accepted, it's no holds barred. By comparison, my best for the year is 69 at Dartmoor and a pair of 83's at Portland. And if anchors are used I'll be off 2. Some of these games are tasty matchups, but there's no doubt that this one should be described as a 'pasty' matchup.

Most will go for a bottle of beer halfway around, bottle of sunscreen will be your groups choice.

[LeftyHoges]

Most will go for a bottle of beer halfway around, bottle of sunscreen will be your groups choice.

:lol:

So I'll be giving Yoss around 10 shots and Jackson 28 in the 4B?

:shock:

[Johnny Canuck]

What's mubbaban's anchor? Yep. For those that don't have caps, they will be playing off 4 shots lower than their assigned weekend cap, to keep things level. This just got a lot more fun for them :/.If we put the Nully Cup on the line in the final pairing, which we should for fun, we will have to revert to either 3/4 or full caps for the final group, whatever was used last year.

[simmsy]

My head has just exploded.

If someone can txt me and tell me which group I'm in that would be great.

[Ashes]

Just trying to be a gracious Southern citizen. The deal expires pretty quickly though so if it's not accepted, it's no holds barred.

By comparison, my best for the year is 69 at Dartmoor and a pair of 83's at Portland.

And if anchors are used I'll be off 2.

Some of these games are tasty matchups, but there's no doubt that this one should be described as a 'pasty' matchup.

I'll pass on the deal thanks mate . You've never played golf with Marilyn in your group so we'll see how you go.

If we're off anchors you're handing me 16 shots btw ;)

[LeftyHoges]

I'll pass on the deal thanks mate . You've never played golf with Marilyn in your group so we'll see how you go.

If we're off anchors you're handing me 16 shots btw ;)

Alright, but just remember that I offered! :lol:

Shot a hole is fine, I can do that. :smt087

We'd have to be the party group, surely? Can we have some music playing as we go around? I've really come around to the new AIC album, it is better like you said.

[Shadesy]

You'll have that shot back lefty before the ladies tee.

[Johnny Canuck]

You'll have that shot back lefty before the ladies tee. And you'll get a few more before the ladies' as well.

[bergsey]

Tiger would be one of the most dangerous matchplay players in this. We're coming for ya Tommy and Bergsey!! Dangerous for so many reasons.... Also with Tommy in the group!

[LeftyHoges]

You'll have that shot back lefty before the ladies tee.


And you'll get a few more before the ladies' as well.

:lol:

I did "jug" myself last weekend though. Could be an epic battle!

Anyway, all of this is purely inconsequential to the real issue...

What are the team uniforms!?!?!?

[Mububban]

First group eh? I reckon I might pull "do an Ashes" on the first tee due to nerves :smt087 I hate having an audience for my tee shots. Worst ever was having to tee off in front of about 15 guys on a buck's day outing, played through on the 10th and promptly topped my drive 30m into the left bushes :oops: Anything past the ladies is a win for that opening shot!


First group's not so bad though, when we finish we can be a gallery for the remaining players, to cheer and jeer as appropriate. I want to see JC and SMS duke it out :) If TV has shown me anything, I think we need to shout "get in the hole!!!" as they tee off on par 4s and 5s.


By the way, what exactly is an anchor?

[Mububban]

My head has just exploded.

If someone can txt me and tell me which group I'm in that would be great.

Group 3 simmsy. The matchups are (in announced group order):



NORTH


SOUTH



Player
H/cap
vs
Player
H/cap


Mububban
19
vs
Shadesy
9


Idgolfguy
12
vs
TWM
6









Ashes
21
vs
Lefty
3


Jackson
30
vs
Yoss
12









GK
19
vs
Simmsy
10


Nuffy
5
vs
Shortylook
20









TommyG
9
vs
Jeffo
13


Bergsey
19
vs
Tiger
16









NK
10
vs
Hocko
6


SMS
2
vs
Canuck
4

[LeftyHoges]

First group eh? I reckon I might pull "do an Ashes" on the first tee due to nerves :smt087 I hate having an audience for my tee shots. Worst ever was having to tee off in front of about 15 guys on a buck's day outing, played through on the 10th and promptly topped my drive 30m into the left bushes :oops: Anything past the ladies is a win for that opening shot!


First group's not so bad though, when we finish we can be a gallery for the remaining players, to cheer and jeer as appropriate. I want to see JC and SMS duke it out :) If TV has shown me anything, I think we need to shout "get in the hole!!!" as they tee off on par 4s and 5s.


By the way, what exactly is an anchor?

You won't see SMS and JC duking it out. JC is after some serious revenge for last year and will easily take him down.

An anchor is your lowest point of handicap over the last 12 months.

[Johnny Canuck]

:lol:I did "jug" myself last weekend though. Could be an epic battle!Anyway, all of this is purely inconsequential to the real issue...What are the team uniforms!?!?!?I am 10 days past a jugging. Sky ball into a 50km wind. It made it past the ladies in flight and ended up about 40m short of them

[Jackson]

Playing off anchors sounds like a great idea!


...for those of us without an anchor.

[simmsy]

So playing off anchors in a field where a qtr of the field don't have GL?

Not sure it makes much sense to me.

[Jeffo1123]

I am 10 days past a jugging. Sky ball into a 50km wind. It made it past the ladies in flight and ended up about 40m short of them Shouldn't put so much back spin on your driver (or 3 wood, whatever it was). I will be off 12 for this if it is normal cap or anchor. Unless I have some blistering rounds to come in to 11, which I can ensure will not happen.

[Pieface]

Bourbonater, TommyG and Tigger all in one group. Not sure two carts can hold enough grog and still pull uphill.

[Mububban]

Travel time - I've got 100km of freeway between me and The Cut in Dawesville. If breakfast is at 8:30am, do I need to leave at 6am to get there by 8 on a weekday? I'd rather be early than late.

[Pieface]

I'd allow a bit over an hour coming from Hepburn Ave on ramp Mubbs.

[Johnny Canuck]

Bergs could do it in 40, easy.

[Pieface]

A man that cleanly shaven offers much less wind resistance.

[rubin]

A man that cleanly shaven offers much less wind resistance.

that hair is a killer though. thats got to add a fair bit of drag.

[Johnny Canuck]

that hair is a killer though. thats got to add a fair bit of drag. Rubes knows drag.

[Pieface]

Ruburn :lol:

[hocko]

For those who are still unsure, these are the groups in particular order.
This will be played on full handicaps according to golflink.



NORTH


SOUTH



Player
H/cap
vs
Player
H/cap




Group 1




Mububban
19
vs
Shadesy
10



Idgolfguy
12
vs
TWM
6




Group 2




Ashes
21
vs
Lefty
3


Jackson
30
vs
Yoss
12




Group 3




GK
19
vs
Simmsy
10


Nuffy
5
vs
Shortylook
20




Group 4




TommyG
9
vs
Jeffo
13


Bergsey
19
vs
Tiger
16




Group 5 (Nully Cup?)




NK
10
vs
Hocko
5


SMS
2
vs
Canuck
4

[LeftyHoges]

Sorry Yoss, but if Jackson breaks 105 you and I are ****ed.

[Pieface]

You have got Shadseys weapon in the group in front to deploy if Jacko gets on a roll.

[Ashes]

How does the group format thing work?

[LeftyHoges]

How does the group format thing work?

Play singles matchplay, and then also 4BBB matchplay. Lowest member of the group (ie. me) gives the difference of handicap in shots to everyone else.

So I give shots to Yoss (9 if he's off 12), you (15) and Jackson (27).

[Ashes]

Play singles matchplay, and then also 4BBB matchplay. Lowest member of the group (ie. me) gives the difference of handicap in shots to everyone else.

So I give shots to Yoss (9 if he's off 12), you (15) and Jackson (27).

So after shots are applied, it's best score from you and Yoss v best score from Jackson and I in a match play?

[LeftyHoges]

So after shots are applied, it's best score from you and Yoss v best score from Jackson and I in a match play?

Correctamundo.

Giving away 15 and 27 shots while only giving 9 to your partner in a 4BBB is very much less than ideal! :lol:

[Jackson]

Correctamundo.

Giving away 15 and 27 shots while only giving 9 to your partner in a 4BBB is very much less than ideal! :lol:

Not for us ;)

[Jackson]

Although on the positive side, with me and Ashes as your opposition you probably will drink for free for the entire weekend after all the jugs.

[hocko]

Play singles matchplay, and then also 4BBB matchplay. Lowest member of the group (ie. me) gives the difference of handicap in shots to everyone else.

So I give shots to Yoss (9 if he's off 12), you (15) and Jackson (27).
Why would you give shots to yoss? he's on your side.
Best nett score on each hole wins the hole for the team.

[Ashes]

Do you share a cart with your team mate or opponent?

[Johnny Canuck]

Depends on who your teammate is ;)

[rubin]

Depends on who your teammate is ;)

If your teammate is tiger - share with your opponent. Its a Safety thing.

[Jackson]

Sorry Yoss, but if Jackson breaks 105 you and I are ****ed.

If you and/or Yoss are worried about facing a 30 handicap, I'm willing to do a deal.

I will play of whatever handicap you guys want.
The catch? Each shot removed from my handicap will cost $25 into the donation tin.

[hocko]

If you and/or Yoss are worried about facing a 30 handicap, I'm willing to do a deal.

I will play of whatever handicap you guys want.
The catch? Each shot removed from my handicap will cost $25 into the donation tin.
Awesome idea!

[LeftyHoges]

Why would you give shots to yoss? he's on your side.
Best nett score on each hole wins the hole for the team.

I have to give him shots, he's not gonna play off scratch beside me. I'm assuming this is 4BBB match play traditional rules. Can't remember what we played last year.


If you and/or Yoss are worried about facing a 30 handicap, I'm willing to do a deal.

I will play of whatever handicap you guys want.
The catch? Each shot removed from my handicap will cost $25 into the donation tin.

$25 a shot is steep. How about $10? ;-)

[Ashes]

Lefty would pay $100 a shot to drop my cap, he is that shit scared of the Marilyn matchup.

[Shadesy]

I'm off 10 Captain. Probably 11 by champs time ;-)

[Jackson]

I have to give him shots, he's not gonna play off scratch beside me. I'm assuming this is 4BBB match play traditional rules. Can't remember what we played last year.



$25 a shot is steep. How about $10? ;-)


Fair enough, I will drop it down to $20, thats only $10 from you and $10 from yoss per shot.

[hocko]

I'm off 10 Captain. Probably 11 by champs time ;-)
No worries, Can you copy the draw and put it in the OP please?

[Mububban]

Sorry Yoss, but if Jackson breaks 105 you and I are ****ed.

Come on Jackson!!!! No hero shots, play it safe and the match is yours for the taking!

[idgolfguy]

It is still the North versus the South - we should be playing whatever advantage we have to win.

[Shortylook]

Group 3;
Simmsy V GK
Shorty V Nuffy
So I'm playing the Nuffanator who is off 5. Cant wait

[LeftyHoges]

So I'm playing the Nuffanator who is off 5. Cant wait

Don't let him talk you into anything Shorty.

Even better, don't let him talk at all.

[Shadesy]

So I'm playing the Nuffanator who is off 5. Cant wait

You've got this Shorty.

[rubin]

So I'm playing the Nuffanator who is off 5. Cant wait


Don't let him talk you into anything Shorty.

Even better, don't let him talk at all.


You've got this Shorty.

Nuffie is weak - just get into his ear on the first about how something is wrong with his swing - he'll crumble like Lefty at Busselton.

[Johnny Canuck]

Nuffie is weak - just get into his ear on the first about how something is wrong with his swing - he'll crumble like Lefty at Busselton. Or like Nuffie at Kennedy Bay.

[simmsy]

or like rubin at a 1D concert

[LeftyHoges]

Nuffie is weak - just get into his ear on the first about how something is wrong with his swing - he'll crumble like Lefty at Busselton.

My swing was rock solid, thank you! :smt013

[idgolfguy]

or like rubin at a 1D concert
Got a free lounge pass to the concert as I'm taking my girls and friends on Sunday.

[Mububban]

Got a free lounge pass to the concert as I'm taking my girls and friends on Sunday.

The sacrifices we parents make for our kids. Take some earplugs and a good book :)

[3Puttpete]

Got a free lounge pass to the concert as I'm taking my girls and friends on Sunday.

If they're anything like mine, you're father of the year.

[Nuffie]

Come on Jackson!!!! No hero shots, play it safe and the match is yours for the taking! Exactly. The cut is tricky but the holes are not hand grenades by any means. Keep it in play. Take 3w or irons off the tee and then iron up the middle if need be. Pars and bogeys could win lots of holes.

[Pieface]

Maybe id just doesn't want to take them to the range and have this happen:

From one of them crazy US forums


Had a crazy one today at local range. Kid (approx. 10 years old) and mom show up at range, kid has a youth set of your clubs (mostly woods). They pick a stall about 6 stalls away from where I'm at so mom can sit on a bench, drink her coffee and watch.


I'm practicing, so only randomly paying attention to them and notice the kid hits some nice shots but mostly shanks. I then hear mom start to coach / yell at him that he's not concentrating, wasting her time, etc which gets him angry and he starts swinging harder (I can hear the shanks bouncing off the metal railing between each stall). She gives one last rant and out of corner of my eye I notice he's addressed the ball, but facing her not the range. Next thing I hear him ask her is "What am I doing wrong?", I hear the club head hit the ball and I hear her scream.

Luckily he hit her in the arm and not the face, she's crying, covered in coffee and he's just staring at her with a completely indifferent look on his face. I call over the range staff, run over to make sure she's okay. She was saying her arm was broke but I don't think it was. The range staff took over and they eventually calmed her down, she refused to let them call an ambulance and they left.

I couldn't get the image of the kid just staring, he never even apologized. The scene reminded me of the Omen movie when Damien watched the sister fall through the ice.

[rubin]

or like rubin at a 1D concert

thank christ i've never been to one.

I think i would just want to throttle everyone in sight

[Pieface]

or like rubin at a 1D concert


thank christ i've never been to one.


Rubin can't be satisfied by just 1 D.

[Johnny Canuck]

Rubin can't be satisfied by just 1 D. Gold.

[simmsy]

Slope Rating for The Cut - 140

rated only behind J'lup - Quarry/Dunes @ 141

[idgolfguy]

Where did you find the ratings published.

[idgolfguy]

If they're anything like mine, you're father of the year.
A 15, 17 year old and 2 other 17 year old mates.

[Pieface]

I always told you plicks I need another 4-5 strokes when we play these tracks

#vindication,#chopperarmy

[simmsy]

http://golfwa.org.au/common/content/SlopeRatings

[simmsy]

Anyone know when this comes in to the system

[Ashes]

I say we use slope for the GSM. Lefty is now spotting me 32 strokes, which is nice.

[Johnny Canuck]

Slope Rating for The Cut - 140rated only behind J'lup - Quarry/Dunes @ 141 Lakes / Dunes 142.

[LeftyHoges]

I say we use slope for the GSM. Lefty is now spotting me 32 strokes, which is nice.

Shit, I actually would be you know. Will still be off 3.0 exactly and 2.85 it something like that. Damn!

[idgolfguy]

http://golfwa.org.au/common/content/SlopeRatings
Mucho Gracias!

[idgolfguy]

Comparing Chequers at 110 to The Vines (Lakes) 126.
Currently my 12 HC is based at the Vines, would that mean when I play at Chequers, my HC would be about 10?

Does not make sense as I deem Chequers to be more difficult.

[Pieface]

Is that due to condition or layout Id?

The slope is kinda like the bogey folders view of the course. If the vines has a bunch of hazards at 180-200 off the tee it is going to look harder comparatively for the bogey golfer as those hazards are out of play for lower markers who will theoretically carry them with ease.

Lord knows I seem to end up in the sand more often at the vines than anywhere else it seems!

[G.K]

What are are referring to regarding bunkers at 180-200 is exactly what I was faced with at SH last week.

I'm the same as you PF, if there's a fairway bunker at around that distance, I'm almost guaranteed to find it!

[Jackson]

Holy hell, I would be off about 37 playing the blues at the cut with slope included, if I understand correctly.

How hard is this course compared to the ellenbrook course at the vines which is where I've played mostly?

[Shortylook]

Don't let him talk you into anything Shorty.

Even better, don't let him talk at all.
Good luck me having a bet with that scoundrel. I'd end up with just my jocks

[Ashes]

Holy hell, I would be off about 37 playing the blues at the cut with slope included, if I understand correctly.

How hard is this course compared to the ellenbrook course at the vines which is where I've played mostly?

Depends what you're like when it's blowing a gale. Aside from the wind, choppers like me find losing balls in the dunes the biggest diff. Bunkers are easier than Vines. More elevation change to deal with compared to Vines, plus a few blind tee shots.

[Yossarian]

This thread is officially WAnkered. Well done lads.

[TourFit]

Binningup blues & Karrinyup off blacks rated the same...132

[Mububban]

So what's the maths for figuring handicap changes factoring in slope rating?

[TourFit]

Cott also 132 off back tees...and Royal Harty is at 135!!!

[Nuffie]

Harty doesnt surprise me rating that high. With all those elevated greens and subtle breaks on the greens.

[rubin]

So what's the maths for figuring handicap changes factoring in slope rating?

Same as before basically.

Score less par, x slope, divide by 113 = slope rated played to.

[bergsey]

Back to the Friday, I'm assuming we are playing 4BBB stableford format?

[idgolfguy]

Is that due to condition or layout Id?


Chequers has the doglegs around 190m and is heavily tree-lined. The Greens are postage-stamp sized that are elevated and if you miss the fairway, it's tough to advance the ball forward. At Chequers, you don't need driver as that could get you in trouble. Placement is paramount.

I have discounted the conditioning as it has been improving. Another two years and it will be a gem.

[Shadesy]

Back to the Friday, I'm assuming we are playing 4BBB stableford format?

And single Matchplay vs your opponent.

So 3 points per Group up For grabs

[Nuffie]

Nuffie is weak - just get into his ear on the first about how something is wrong with his swing - he'll crumble like Lefty at Busselton. Fortunately I dont focus much on swings these days. A swing is as unique as the player who it belongs to.

[bergsey]

And single Matchplay vs your opponent.So 3 points per Group up For grabs Yeah yeah, I'm not sure whether others knew it was best stableford score I.e. Hole is halved if both can't score any stableford points

[idgolfguy]

Fortunately I dont focus much on swings these days. A swing is as unique as the player who it belongs to.
Nice - it is what it is!

[rubin]

If you and/or Yoss are worried about facing a 30 handicap, I'm willing to do a deal.

I will play of whatever handicap you guys want.
The catch? Each shot removed from my handicap will cost $25 into the donation tin.


I have to give him shots, he's not gonna play off scratch beside me. I'm assuming this is 4BBB match play traditional rules. Can't remember what we played last year.

$25 a shot is steep. How about $10? ;-)


Fair enough, I will drop it down to $20, thats only $10 from you and $10 from yoss per shot.

If Lefty is in for it, i'll match his $10 for each dropped shot off the cap - to a max of $100. That'll be the $20 Jackson agreed to......

[LeftyHoges]

If Lefty is in for it, i'll match his $10 for each dropped shot off the cap - to a max of $100. That'll be the $20 Jackson agreed to......

You're a good egg Rubes.

Let's make this interesting though. I put in $50, Rubin puts in $50, BUT Jackson still plays off 30. If Yoss and I beat him and Ashes then Jackson puts in $50 also.

All for a good cause right? ;-)

[simmsy]

I thought only women were allowed a hc higher than 27?

[Jackson]

You're a good egg Rubes.

Let's make this interesting though. I put in $50, Rubin puts in $50, BUT Jackson still plays off 30. If Yoss and I beat him and Ashes then Jackson puts in $50 also.

All for a good cause right? ;-)

I'm up for that.

[LeftyHoges]

I'm up for that.

Beautiful stuff Jackson. So upon Rubins confirmation there's $100 more ( and pretty much inevitable $150 ;-) ) into the tin. Top shelf guys.

[rubin]

You're a good egg Rubes.

Let's make this interesting though. I put in $50, Rubin puts in $50, BUT Jackson still plays off 30. If Yoss and I beat him and Ashes then Jackson puts in $50 also.

All for a good cause right? ;-)


I'm up for that.


Beautiful stuff Jackson. So upon Rubins confirmation there's $100 more ( and pretty much inevitable $150 ;-) ) into the tin. Top shelf guys.

All good mate, consider it done.

[bergsey]

So I understand normal 4BBB handicapping where you reduce the lowest marker down to scratch but how will it work with also a singles matchplay?

I'm assuming if the starting handicaps are TommyG 9 vs Jeffo 13, and Bergsey 19 vs Tiger 16

Then the strokes given in a normal 4bbb would be TommyG (scratch) vs Jeffo 4 and Bergsey 10 vs Tiger 7.

Correct?

Edit: just noticed they have a matchplay index so assume we will use that instead of stroke index

[Johnny Canuck]

Yeah yeah, I'm not sure whether others knew it was best stableford score I.e. Hole is halved if both can't score any stableford points Wipes shouldnt cancel. In cases of bad holes, the lowest net score should win the hole. Ie. Someone 3 jacking for double should not halve with someone who never even got off the tee.This should not come into play too often, but it is something to consider, stableford scores can be used for ease of scoring, but at the end of the day, match play is stroke. Common sense should also prevail with hole concessions. If you are going to drop a moose and your opponent 6, puck up the ball.

[LeftyHoges]

So I understand normal 4BBB handicapping where you reduce the lowest marker down to scratch but how will it work with also a singles matchplay?

I'm assuming if the starting handicaps are TommyG 9vs Jeffo 13, and Bergsey 19vs Tiger 16

Then the strokes given in a normal 4bbb would be TommyG (scratch) vs Jeffo 4 and Bergsey 10 vs Tiger 7.

Correct?

Edit: just noticed they have a matchplay index so assume we will use that instead of stroke index

You've pretty much got it mate. In the individual matches TommyG will give Jeffo 4 shots and Tiger will give you 3.

In the 4B TommyG gets none while giving you, his partner 10, while giving away 4 & 7 to Jeffo & Tiger.

Unless they decide to play Stableford 4B match play in which case basically everyone uses there normal shots where allocated and highest points wins the hole.

[bergsey]

Wipes shouldnt cancel. In cases of bad holes, the lowest net score should win the hole. Ie. Someone 3 jacking for double should not halve with someone who never even got off the tee.This should not come into play too often, but it is something to consider, stableford scores can be used for ease of scoring, but at the end of the day, match play is stroke. Common sense should also prevail with hole concessions. If you are going to drop a moose and your opponent 6, puck up the ball.

So we are playing 4BBB stroke play then!

[Johnny Canuck]

In essence, yes. Stableford scoring is generally used for ease of calculations.

You would think and hope that most holes won't have to beyond a stableford score to get a result. It would also be easier and less confusing for the rookies to play off full caps and not reduce the lowest marker to zero (less wipe situations also).

[TourFit]

Lefty, Rubes & Jackson...great work guys. But good luck gettin' coin from Yoss on this...:roll:

He's saved up some used bus tickets though, will they count?

[TourFit]

#doublepost

[Yossarian]

They use smartriders now.

[idgolfguy]

They use smartriders now.
Are the the ones with the extra lubrication?

[Nuffie]

In essence, yes. Stableford scoring is generally used for ease of calculations. I reckon keeping the scoring to stroke would be a good move. A double or triple may win a hole even on a par 5, particularly if a player has one or two shots on the hole over their opponent.It makes it simple for everyone walking to each tee, knowing that they need to either have the best score on the hole to win, or finish two better to win the hole, etc. Just my two cents.

[bergsey]

Depends if we want a 7 hour round...

[Johnny Canuck]

Depends if we want a 7 hour round... Would only come into play on the odd hole if both guys blow out.You can concede holes in match play.

[Pieface]

Chequers has the doglegs around 190m and is heavily tree-lined. The Greens are postage-stamp sized that are elevated and if you miss the fairway, it's tough to advance the ball forward. At Chequers, you don't need driver as that could get you in trouble. Placement is paramount.

I have discounted the conditioning as it has been improving. Another two years and it will be a gem.

Sounds like the slope rating makes sense then Id.

As you play better golf (handicap lowers) you do not find Chequers to decrease in difficulty as much as the Vines courses. Therefore there is not as much slope differential.

The lower marker doesn't have more of an advantage at Chequers so the worse golfer's base handicap remains a good reflection of the difference in skill levels. In fact at chequers a higher marker will give a stroke back to the lower markers in the field to represent the difficulties that each golfer is forced to contend with.

Looks like 18 and down hold all their strokes at Chequers and 19+ will give a stroke back...

It seems a bit counter intuitive but that is how I'm understanding the system.

[idgolfguy]

Nice explanation. I did not perceive it that way. Is this worked out before the round?

Don't think I want to play skins against HCs above 18 at the Vines but will at Chequers.

[tommyg]

...sorry guys I should chirp in here... I havent played a comp round this year, in fact havent played more than 54 holes all year socially. My last handicap on golflink was 12... i'll try to reactivate my golflink and get it back on track but that might be tough as ive just had knee surgery. Im certainly not a "9"

[Pieface]

That's bad news Tommy. Hope all goes well with the knee.

Tom Waterhouse just wound in the odds on a South victory!

[Johnny Canuck]

Last active Golflink is fine.

[Mububban]

...sorry guys I should chirp in here... I havent played a comp round this year, in fact havent played more than 54 holes all year socially. My last handicap on golflink was 12... i'll try to reactivate my golflink and get it back on track but that might be tough as ive just had knee surgery. Im certainly not a "9"

That's not what Team NoR wanted to hear tommy!!!

[Jeffo1123]

...sorry guys I should chirp in here... I havent played a comp round this year, in fact havent played more than 54 holes all year socially. My last handicap on golflink was 12... i'll try to reactivate my golflink and get it back on track but that might be tough as ive just had knee surgery. Im certainly not a "9" You beauty!

[Mububban]

tommyg might have to use his cart like he's playing polo to protect his knees

[Nuffie]

tommyg might have to use his cart like he's playing polo to protect his kneesBeware the hobbling golfer. On a track where he knows how to get the job done.

[idgolfguy]

At least cartage of refreshment is covered.

[TourFit]

Some interesting slope rating observations:

a) apparently Secret Harbour off blacks is tougher than KB off blacks - 138 v 137

b) apparently off the black tees, Royal Perth and Karrinyup are the same difficulty - 132 !!!

c) Melville Glades off the blacks is rayed the same as Marri Park OFF BLUES! - 124

d) Joondalup Q/D off BLUE is rated the same as KB off blacks - 137 !!!

Sure are some strange results...

[Yossarian]

Depends on what a bogey golfer is I guess.

[rubin]

Wrong thread fit

But anyway - as an example, at KB, the bunkers arn't in range for the 'bogey golfer'.

[Yossarian]

La Rubes, are you not a bogey golfer that can reach them?

[bergsey]

He'll be blowing it past them ...

[TourFit]

At the Cut and The Vines, Rubes can reach the houses!

[MegaWatty]

Some interesting slope rating observations:

a) apparently Secret Harbour off blacks is tougher than KB off blacks - 138 v 137

b) apparently off the black tees, Royal Perth and Karrinyup are the same difficulty - 132 !!!

c) Melville Glades off the blacks is rayed the same as Marri Park OFF BLUES! - 124

d) Joondalup Q/D off BLUE is rated the same as KB off blacks - 137 !!!

Sure are some strange results...

Brookwater and Shell Cove are mid 140's off the tips. Did Brookwater Blacks on Monday.

[simmsy]

And got ****ed like a stuffed pig.. :)

[MegaWatty]

And got ****ed like a stuffed pig.. :)

No I didn't. Just the one moose!

[rubin]

La Rubes, are you not a bogey golfer that can reach them?

I am A bogey golfer that can reach them - however I am not the average bogey golfer (by the definition)


At the Cut and The Vines, Rubes can reach the houses!

At the Cu*t - any muppet can reach a house, just aim far enough right. at the vines -same thing.

[MegaWatty]

You weren't aiming...

[Shortylook]

Alright players (I feel like Vince McMahon on WWE calling his matchups): Due to popular demand, I bring to you the following matches...

1. SMS316 (2?) & Bergsey (19) vs JC (4) & Tiger (16)

2. Nuffie (5) & Idgolfguy (12) vs Lefty (3) & Jeffo (13)

3. TommyG (9?) & Ashes (21?) vs Simmsy (10?) & Shorty (20?)

4. NK (10) & Mubabban (19) vs Hocko (6?) & Yoss (12?)

5. G.K. (19) & Jackson (30) vs TWM (6?) & Shadesy (9?)

SO ITS ON... like Donkey Kong!

These caps are approximate and can be corrected closer to the date.
21.0 ATM, that could be 20( I wish) or a smidge higher by the time we tee off

[Shortylook]

First group eh? I reckon I might pull "do an Ashes" on the first tee due to nerves :smt087 I hate having an audience for my tee shots. Worst ever was having to tee off in front of about 15 guys on a buck's day outing, played through on the 10th and promptly topped my drive 30m into the left bushes :oops: Anything past the ladies is a win for that opening shot!


First group's not so bad though, when we finish we can be a gallery for the remaining players, to cheer and jeer as appropriate. I want to see JC and SMS duke it out :) If TV has shown me anything, I think we need to shout "get in the hole!!!" as they tee off on par 4s and 5s.


By the way, what exactly is an anchor?
FFS I hope I'm last to tee off then!

[Shortylook]

$100 on the SOTR team

[Jackson]

Due to being in Lefty's group I have purchased a new outfit for friday golf featuring a beautiful pair of bright green pants.

[rubin]

Due to being in Lefty's group I have purchased a new outfit for friday golf featuring a beautiful pair of bright green pants.

That won't be enough.

It will need to be coordinated with your hat, sunglasses, sunscreen (incl. Zink if you use it), watch, glove, belt, shirt, socks, underwear, shoes, laces, Bag, Club head covers, towel, and choice of transport.

[LeftyHoges]

That won't be enough.

It will need to be coordinated with your hat, sunglasses, sunscreen (incl. Zink if you use it), watch, glove, belt, shirt, socks, underwear, shoes, laces, Bag, Club head covers, towel, and choice of transport.

I'm not that tough.

No need for the head covers Jackson.

:lol:

[TourFit]

Still think you coulda used the yellow Z-Star though...

[LeftyHoges]

Still think you coulda used the yellow Z-Star though...

And it would've lasted all of two shots! :lol:

[Nuffie]

Brookwater and Shell Cove are mid 140's off the tips. Did Brookwater Blacks on Monday. The Shell Cove slope rating is understandable. They had to keep the grass on the greens longer so that wind would not blow balls off the green.

[TourFit]

Still think you coulda used the yellow Z-Star though...


And it would've lasted all of two shots! :lol:

Only one more than the wedge shaft then...

[LeftyHoges]

If I may interject with an important question...

Why the **** is an Eastie not involved in the Secret Nullabor Cup match thats being planned?

[hocko]

Which one?

[Johnny Canuck]

If I may interject with an important question...Why the **** is an Eastie not involved in the Secret Nullabor Cup match thats being planned? Because it wasn't taken into consideration when said Eastie was paired against Ashes.

[Ashes]

Because it wasn't taken into consideration when said Eastie was paired against Ashes.

I just assumed Lefty opted out knowing he was going to get smashed by me.

[Shortylook]

F'n crap, if today's 9 holes is anything to go by I'm dead meat for the ozgolf champs. 54 shots what a shit fest.

[LeftyHoges]

Because it wasn't taken into consideration when said Eastie was paired against Ashes.

Can't pick and choose your opposition.


I just assumed Lefty opted out knowing he was going to get smashed by me.

Nope. Guess again.

[Nuffie]

F'n crap, if today's 9 holes is anything to go by I'm dead meat for the ozgolf champs. 54 shots what a shit fest.Dont worry shorty. Im sure our fri match will be quite entertaining.

[simmsy]

I hear you will have new shiny irons for the occasion Nuff.

be sure to tell Lefty all about them.

[Nuffie]

I hear you will have new shiny irons for the occasion Nuff.be sure to tell Lefty all about them.Sold a used set to afford another used set. It was a very good price.

[Marto65]

Just talk to him about your salad.

[rubin]

I hear you will have new shiny irons for the occasion Nuff.

be sure to tell Lefty all about them.

and don't forget to detail the car the night before........

[Yossarian]

Just talk to him about your salad.

Maybe he will toss the salad for you.

[Nuffie]

Just talk to him about your salad. I'm happy to cover the overheads that Lefty has contributed to help me make it to champs.I'm also willing to negotiate a share towards what I've been shouted by those that chipped in.

[Nuffie]

and don't forget to detail the car the night before........ Haha, maybe if it gets driven down this year.

[sms316]

It is very gracious of hocko to allow JC to play our match off the stick. Hopefully the match is played to the same lofty standards as last year.

[simmsy]

I doubt it.
Have u seen the Canucks GL??

[sms316]

I doubt it. Have u seen the Canucks GL?? I don't need to see it because he is playing off scratch.

[Johnny Canuck]

Negative, like your handicap.

[sms316]

Negative, like your handicap. Last time I mentioned handicaps in this thread I got a fortnight.

[Johnny Canuck]

Last time I mentioned handicaps in this thread I got a fortnight. To put it "mildly".

[Shortylook]

Dont worry shorty. Im sure our fri match will be quite entertaining.
Yea for everyone else except me!

[G.K]

Nuffie, or should I say el capitan, I'm still getting my cap sorted. Need to hand in a couple of cards over the next two weeks. But assuming I play relatively consistently compared to my recent social rounds, I reckon I will be off somewhere in the vicinity of 18-20.

And it goes without saying that there will be no manipulation going on in these next couple of rounds;)

Well I was bang on the money with my prediction. I now have a Golflink handicap and I have been given the princely figure of 18.6

So Mr Simms, will that be 9 or 10 strokes you will be giving me for our Friday match up?

[simmsy]

Shoot a nice 85 on Saturday on and it'll be 9

[Mububban]

F'n crap, if today's 9 holes is anything to go by I'm dead meat for the ozgolf champs. 54 shots what a shit fest.

I'm playing 9 at Hamersley this arvo, that's about a normal score for me there :razz:

[idgolfguy]

I'm playing 9 at Hamersley this arvo, that's about a normal score for me there :razz:
What time?

[idgolfguy]

What time?

Never mind have a meeting at 2.30 to 3.30. Won't be available till after that.

Have they started their Twilight deal yet?

[G.K]

Shoot a nice 85 on Saturday on and it'll be 9

Surely a single figure player such as yourself would be aspiring to a better score than 85 ;) :cough:sandbagger:cough:

Mind you, if I manage to shoot the lights out over the next two weeks, perhaps I will dip below my initial cap.

[idgolfguy]

2-4 shots above HC is a good median.

[Shortylook]

I'm playing 9 at Hamersley this arvo, that's about a normal score for me there :razz:

Makes me feel better. Just

[rubin]

I'm playing 9 at Hamersley this arvo, that's about a normal score for me there :razz:


Makes me feel better. Just

Lads - a word of advice if I may.

Don't stress on the scores. While we mask it as our own little comp, there is really only 2 blokes who take it very seriously. Everyone else just goes to play some good courses, and have a good time.

If you shoot 130 or 80 - no one will care all that much, just enjoy yourselves.

[sms316]

Who are those 2 blokes Lubes?

I know JC is one, because it still burns him how he lost a 4 hole lead.

[G.K]

2-4 shots above HC is a good median.

True. Just giving a bit of :smt064

If I can play within 5 shots of my cap at the cut I will be over the moon.

[rubin]

Who are those 2 blokes Lubes?

I know JC is one, because it still burns him how he lost a 4 hole lead.

it would have been 4, but Tourfit isn't playing anymore.

[Johnny Canuck]

Lads - a word of advice if I may.Don't stress on the scores. While we mask it as our own little comp, there is really only 2 blokes who take it very seriously. Everyone else just goes to play some good courses, and have a good time.If you shoot 130 or 80 - no one will care all that much, just enjoy yourselves. Exactly guys. Relax. Only one guy takes it so seriously that he will try and cheat to win. Don't ask who, I don't name names. I frown upon starting controversy.

[Mububban]

Makes me feel better. Just

Golfshot says my scores at Hamersley (I started playing early 2012, scores go back in time) have been 44, 51, 47, 52, 48, 54, 51, 45, 50, 53, 53, 55, 52, 54, 54. Consistent(ly crap). I think all the 40s have been on the front 9 which I hardly ever play, we tend to tee off from 10 as it's less busy, but my scores tend to be higher. Scoring average +29.7 for last 20 "rounds" :oops:
I'd like to play 18 there one day to see what I shoot. Only $25 for 18 on weekends....


Never mind have a meeting at 2.30 to 3.30. Won't be available till after that.

Have they started their Twilight deal yet?

Teeing off hopefully 3:20pm at the latest, I reckon it'll be busy (thus slow) as it's a beautiful day and rain will have kept some people away.

And their twilight deal is on all year round, just the start time varies. I think it's currently $9 for as many holes as you can play after 4:30pm, but you can't pre-pay so you've got to line up, then pay, then run to whichever tee is free. Only did it once and never again!


Lads - a word of advice if I may.

Don't stress on the scores. While we mask it as our own little comp, there is really only 2 blokes who take it very seriously. Everyone else just goes to play some good courses, and have a good time.

If you shoot 130 or 80 - no one will care all that much, just enjoy yourselves.

That's my attitude all the time Rubes :) I accept I'm not very good at this game, but I've never let that stop me playing other things I'm crap at but stil enjoy!
I've set myself a (probably unrealistic) target to try and break 100 each round, but I've never played a course harder than the Vines off the back tees so I know I'm likely to balloon out. But as I said, I haven't had a long weekend off from parent duties since I had kids, I'm just out for a good fun weekend.

[TheNuclearOne]

Exactly guys. Relax. Only one guy takes it so seriously that he will try and cheat to win. Don't ask who, I don't name names. I frown upon starting controversy.

W.A. has it's very own lil Tigger :shock:

[MegaWatty]

I'm competitive.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'm competitive. What's on the menu for lunch in QLD today, Watson?

[MegaWatty]

What's on the menu for lunch in QLD today, Watson?

Hey John. How ironic you should ask.

Noodles!

[simmsy]

mmmmmmmmmmm


Noodles

[Johnny Canuck]

Hey John. How ironic you should ask. Noodles! Did you order Nikes first and they magically changed halfway to the table?Did the waiter drop them out of his pant leg when no one was looking?

[MegaWatty]

Where do you find good noodles Watty?

I want to say in the bush a long way from the fairway but the food court underneath me has great ones!

[sms316]

I want to say in the bush a long way from the fairway but the food court underneath me has great ones! :lol:

[TheNuclearOne]

What do you call a fake noodle?

An Impasta.

[Shadesy]

What do you call a fake noodle? An Impasta.

Nope...Nike

[Johnny Canuck]

I heard Rubes went for a ball fitting recently. they started by measuring his chin.

[simmsy]

NORTH v SOUTH

Group 1
Mububban19 vs Shadesy10
Idgolfguy12 vs TWM6

Group 2
Bergsey19 vs Tiger16
Jackson30 vs Yoss12

Group 3
GK19 vs Simmsy10
Ashes21 vs Shortylook20

Group 4
TommyG9 vs Jeffo13
Nuffy5 vs Lefty3

Group 5
NK10 vs Hocko5
SMS2 vs Canuck4

Nully Cup II Groups

SMS v Canuck
NK v Hocko
Lefty v Nuff

[LeftyHoges]

NORTH v SOUTH

Group 1
Mububban19 vs Shadesy10
Idgolfguy12 vs TWM6

Group 2
Bergsey19 vs Tiger16
Jackson30 vs Yoss12

Group 3
GK19 vs Simmsy10
Ashes21 vs Shortylook20

Group 4
TommyG9 vs Jeffo13
Nuffy5 vs Lefty3

Group 5
NK10 vs Hocko5
SMS2 vs Canuck4

Nully Cup II Groups

SMS v Canuck
NK v Hocko
Lefty v Nuff

Wait, WTF!?

Why have I changed?

I was already in the group with Nuffie so could still play him for the Nully Cup and Ashes for North V South.

[Johnny Canuck]

Nuffie just took a dump due to nerves already.

[hocko]

NORTH v SOUTH

Group 1
Mububban19 vs Shadesy10
Idgolfguy12 vs TWM6

Group 2
Bergsey19 vs Tiger16
Jackson30 vs Yoss12

Group 3
GK19 vs Simmsy10
Ashes21 vs Shortylook20

Group 4
TommyG9 vs Jeffo13
Nuffy5 vs Lefty3

Group 5
NK10 vs Hocko5
SMS2 vs Canuck4

Nully Cup II Groups

SMS v Canuck
NK v Hocko
Lefty v Nuff

How does that work?

[simmsy]

TapTlk ain't showing jc v SMS.
Go to full site.

[simmsy]

U just concentrate on ur golf

[sms316]

TapTlk ain't showing jc v SMS. Go to full site. Another fail for Tapatalk.

[Ashes]

NORTH v SOUTH

Group 1
Mububban19 vs Shadesy10
Idgolfguy12 vs TWM6

Group 2
Bergsey19 vs Tiger16
Jackson30 vs Yoss12

Group 3
GK19 vs Simmsy10
Ashes21 vs Shortylook20

Group 4
TommyG9 vs Jeffo13
Nuffy5 vs Lefty3

Group 5
NK10 vs Hocko5
SMS2 vs Canuck4

Nully Cup II Groups

SMS v Canuck
NK v Hocko
Lefty v Nuff

Disappointed I don't get a chance to smash Lefty..

At least you can give me rangefinder distances now Simmsy ;)

[LeftyHoges]

Disappointed I don't get a chance to smash Lefty..

At least you can give me rangefinder distances now Simmsy ;)

I'm still happy to play you mate. After all, there was a lot of charity money on it.

Hell, it'll even be to your advantage that your not watching me pour in birdies and pars and you can just concentrate on your own game.

[simmsy]

Disappointed I don't get a chance to smash Lefty..

At least you can give me rangefinder distances now Simmsy ;)

Sure. I'll give you distances mate.

To the ladies.

[Ashes]

I'm still happy to play you mate. After all, there was a lot of charity money on it.

Hell, it'll even be to your advantage that your not watching me pour in birdies and pars and you can just concentrate on your own game.

How about we lobby the organisers to put us in the same group for the arvo skins; we can settle it then?

[hocko]

Play with whoever the **** you like on Friday arvo

[Yossarian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-RduxAYCQMv

[Ashes]

Play with whoever the **** you like on Friday arvo

I'll play with Shadesy's Mrs then.

[MegaWatty]

I'll play with Shadesy's Mrs then.

Wow.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'll play with Shadesy's Mrs then. Get in line.

[MegaWatty]

Get in line.

More wow. Supreme work.

[Shadesy]

Pffttt baby is already in there.. Go for it!

[Pieface]

Congrats JC!

[Jeffo1123]

Topping and skinnying could really work at the cut if the wind is up. I'm dangerous for this!

[Johnny Canuck]

Topping and skinnying could really work at the cut if the wind is up. I'm dangerous for this! Breaking 20 foot putts down into 2 x 10 footers was annoyingly effective today as well.

[Jeffo1123]

10 foot putts are a lot easier than 20 foot putts!!!

[Nuffie]

Nuffie just took a dump due to nerves already.Hopefully a good recent reprieve with time out in Syd and 3 months spent distant from working in an unhealthy job situation, should see me in a better mindset to grind out some good games.

[Nuffie]

Pffttt baby is already in there.. Go for it!Wow thats taking friendship to a whole new level. It appears our opposition is a very close unit indeed.

[Johnny Canuck]

Wow thats taking friendship to a whole new level. It appears our opposition is a very close unit indeed. Nuffie, your opposition is the Easties, in particular, the one that dresses like a drunken clown.

[TourFit]

Don't you mean the one that is a drunken clown?

[LeftyHoges]

Nuffie, your opposition is the Easties, in particular, the one that dresses like a drunken clown.


Don't you mean the one that is a drunken clown?

I fit far more aptly into TourFits description than JC's.

[Mububban]

Had a lesson on bunkers on the weekend. Hopefully it'll help me get out in one rather than 3-4.

[Shadesy]

OK OP Updated with the groupings.

We need Teams colours shortly.

[sms316]

Obviously the south will be wearing pink.

[Ashes]

All black gets my vote for the Northies

[simmsy]

Kiwi ****s