OZgolf 2006 Most Improved Golfer

[BrisWesty]

Biggest reduction in handicap after the first 2 days of 2006 would have to be Peter_rs.

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http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2305/improvedlb5.jpg

[AndyP]

The OZgolf year starts on the completion of the OZgolf Champs, so he may not be.

[Moe Norman]

is it based purely on handicap reduction?

[AndyP]

No.

[Fishman Dan]

You take the top 5 handicap reducers, get 3 different pre/post methods of working out a magical number, and then ask Blake who nominates someone from left-field for the prize.

[Jarro]

got it right there Fishy :roll:

[Bruce]

I wish my updates would start showing up in Golflink.

I wanna confirm if I dropped 3.2 or 3.6 last week.

[BrisWesty]

Whichever one it is, that's a top effort Bruce. Congrats

[mike]

Can we have a separate section for us guys that hardly ever play ? Add to that a wife/kids factor.

Using this method , I would have won Most Improved by a country mile last year.

:?

[Grunt]

Got my first handicap reduction for the year  :lol: and also first time my handicap does not have a 2 in it  8) Down to 19.1.

[Bruce]

Hmm... 1 card in - but it's the second one.

I hope I don't have to organise some sort of hand update from our handicapper. He isn't super tech literate.

[Moe Norman]

i came in .2 for the first time in ages this weekend.

[Keza_G]

I'd like to niminate Scotty_G

Date Comp. Gross Nett Old Hcp New Hcp
26/11/05 Stroke 75 70 4.6 4.7
10/12/05 Stroke 70 65 4.7 4.1
4/1/06 Stab 64 46 4.1 3.0

So in 3 games he has gone from 5 (4.7 exact) to 3 (3.0 exact)....

Cheers

Keza

[markTHEblake]

I have gone out .1 so far, huge improvement over last year

[Grunt]

What was the date for the cutoff for this year?

[990B Luva]

Champs

[Grunt]

My calculations have me losing 2.3 so far for the new OzGolf Year. 10.6% so far. :lol:

[BrisWesty]

Gone from 14.6 to 13.4 since the champs for a reduction of 8.9%. That's nowt compared to going from 4.7 to 3.0. How good is that!

[Keza_G]

Can I be included in this one now...

I was 8.4 on 11/11/2005 and am now 6.4 at 19/01/2006...

so in 2 months I have dropped 2.0 strokes.... :wink: :wink:

Goal for 2006 is 5 or better...

Cheers

Keza

[BrisVegas]

nice going Keza. Good luck with getting the handicap down this year. 8)

[Moe Norman]

very impressive Keza.

[Jarro]

good shooting Keza :smt023

[Bruce]

This is certainly a very keenly contested event.

I reckon I'm gunna have to get below 18 to even be a chance.

[shavey]

I've gone from 10.1 to 8.1 (now 8.2)

20% improvement...

2006 Goal is 4!

[Grunt]

With no work for me for 3 months I guess my golf game better improve. You all better look out :wink:

[BrisVegas]

I've gone from 10.1 to 8.1 (now 8.2)

20% improvement...

2006 Goal is 4!

good work Steve! I remember the first time i saw you play at North Lakes I assumed you were off a 4-5 hcap. When I found out you were a 10 I was shocked. You'll get it down and stay there, you're a good enough player. 8)

[shavey]

Wish I hadn't read that BV.. Must mean a ton is just around the corner :)

[Grunt]

Hopefully back down to 19.3 after Wallaica yesterday.

[AndyP]

Here's a look at the improvers percentage-wise so far this OZgolf year.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9961/improvement1qw.jpg

Go Vegas! Go Vegas!

[Moe Norman]

5.8 to 6.5 for me. is there a bradman award?

[AndyP]

5.8 to 6.5 for me. is there a bradman award?
Your golflink indicates 6.2 to 6.5. I guess this is part of the Robina stuff-up. I'll change it.

You've still got a bit of work to do for the Bradman award.
45 Moe Norman -12.1%
46 courty -14.8%
47 PT73 -48.0%

[990B Luva]

Ap, i have gone from 17.9 to 15.1 (8.4% improvement)

[AndyP]

Ap, i have gone from 17.9 to 15.1 (8.4% improvement)
Where's the proof?
And I thought you were off 16.9 at the end of Champs?
And is your calculator faulty?

[990B Luva]

whoops yea, it was 16.9... my bad

[Moe Norman]

AndyP, my golf link has less than 5 scores in it.

it should have about 200 as I've been on Golf Link since it was created and at uni I regulalry played 3 comp games a week.

not sure what happened, but my scores dissappeared when I was on 6.4 and I dropped to 6.2 when I switched to Robina. Technically without the stuff up I'd be on 6.7.

[Matt 3 Jab]

i think ive gone way down aswell, prob be back up to 8 before i know it :(

[Keza_G]

ok....

I have had another handicap reduction..... I shot 73 off the stick (par 72) and have been chopped to 5.2.... So that's now from 7.2 to 5.2 in 3 months... :D

Cheers

Keza

[Grunt]

Well the backward slide is happening, with the Wallacia round not coming back to the club, all my rounds are being +0.1. I have now blown out to 19.8 :(

[billybaub]

29/10/2005 Carbrook GC handicap 18.2

14/01/2006 Carbrook GC handicap 13.2


i somehow think mine has had a giant chopping
golflink (4110101955)

been too lazy to add a link into my signature

[3oneday]

29/10/2005 Carbrook GC handicap 18.2

14/01/2006 Carbrook GC handicap 13.2


i somehow think mine has had a giant chopping
golflink (4110101955)

been too lazy to add a link into my signaturemust be Bridgestone ;)

:lol:, nice drop !!!!

Pete

[chappy1970]

New to the forum but have gone from 11 (10.5) to 9 (9.0) since November 05.

[AndyP]

I had noticed. Well done. (Puts you at 6th in % BTW)

[peter_rs]

keza down to 4.2, shazza 17.2 & me 19.9,

[brad]

The end of the year is a ways off yet. I guess this is my way of saying ... damn, I'm not even in this comp yet

[Grunt]

I have been asked by my Club Captain not to improve until the 1st of July if I can help it. He wants me to captain the C Grade pennants side.

[connico]

i should have played bad so i can get a 40 hc and then quickly jump down to 18-20 to win this lol :)

[brad]

I have been asked by my Club Captain not to improve until the 1st of July if I can help it. He wants me to captain the C Grade pennants side.

I guess the question is, would you rather have your handicap goal or be the caption of the C grade side.:-?

[Grunt]

I would rather the handicap goal but on the other hand captaining a Pennants side would be good too. Catch 22 situation but to be honest I would rather lose the shots.

[brad]

Maybe you could see if you can get into the B grade side? Then you could sort of get both

[amanda]

i should have played bad so i can get a 40 hc and then quickly jump down to 18-20 to win this lol :)
You'd have to wear a skirt to get to a 40 h/cap - max at NB is 32 - there's still time to lodge some 100+ scores :mrgreen:

[Grunt]

32? I had to struggle at 27 when I started.

[drunken]

Some clubs allow men to have a 32 handicap, which is a home course only cap. When they play anywhere else it would be off 27 max.

[markTHEblake]

I guess the question is, would you rather have your handicap goal or be the caption of the C grade side.:-?

exactly.

If you are in improving golfer, there should be no question. However if your some one standing still, this might be an opportunity you may never see again.

[Grunt]

exactly.

If you are in improving golfer, there should be no question. However if your some one standing still, this might be an opportunity you may never see again.

I am at a standstill point at the moment but any day now the downward movement will start again so I guess I will lose this opportunity for now as I could really work hard and maybe get to B Grade captain I guess.
Hey anything can happen, who would have thought 2 months ago I would have had Brain sugery and recovered in this amount of time. I might sound cocky but I have just beaten the hardest thing I have ever encountered so anything golf throws at me is like a speed bump.

[macleod]

geez, can we at least get a 2006 Most Devolved Golfer list started?

seriously.... ;)

[AndyP]

The end of the year is a ways off yet. I guess this is my way of saying ... damn, I'm not even in this comp yet
Well, handover your golflink number then.

[brad]

Well, handover your golflink number then.

2011601443

You'll see a lovely history since August last year of two games :oops: net .2 loss of h/c though.:-D

[AndyP]

Updated:

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/499/improved1fj.jpg

Looks like Choppa is charging his way up another list.
Steverawlo has shown some recent improvement too.

Eag's, could you please send me your updated golflink number from Virginia?

[Jarro]

do we have a "treading water" award ??

[Courty]

do we have a "treading water" award ??

How about 'spectacular fall from the top' award. :roll:

[Jarro]

at least you have an excuse ;)

[shazza_rs]

go keza!

go keza go, gooooooooo keeeeeezzzzzzaaaaaaa!

;)

[goughy]

I think I've been between 11.0 and 11.4 for like 2 years or more now. That's some treading water.

[Moe Norman]

i think I've gone from 5.8 to 7.0, but my golf link record went haywire and all my rounds dissapeared.

[Stoney]

i think I've gone from 5.8 to 7.0, but my golf link record went haywire and all my rounds dissapeared.

Moe, Perhaps we should start the "Least Improved Golfer" Thread :(

[Stoney]

I think I've been between 11.0 and 11.4 for like 2 years or more now. That's some treading water.

I have you covered there Goughy.

I have been hovering between 0 and 2.0 scince 1996

[BrisVegas]

Moe, Perhaps we should start the "Least Improved Golfer" Thread :(

I think Tez took that out last year. I was going for the double, but got pipped...

[goughy]

I have you covered there Goughy.

I have been hovering between 0 and 2.0 scince 1996

Nah, won't let you have it. To me, that is an impressive 10 years of golf. :shock:

[markTHEblake]

I have been hovering between 0 and 2.0 scince 1996

you have got a long way to go to catch up, i got between 4 and 6 since 1983

[Grunt]

Talking of ad hoc's my club will not add them any more. In January/early febuary Jim and I played at Wallacia here in outer Sydney suburbs. It was my second game back from the brain op and played really well shooting 40 points. Anyway knowing the result may not get back to my club I asked if I could take the result back for the Wallacia club, they said no worries. I did so giving my club all the details CCR result etc. They then told me that they would not update my Golflink because they did not want me to drop out of C grade as we were running out of C grade players for the metropolitan Pennants. They also mentioned that it would be good if I could try and stay above 19.5 until July. I wish I had adhoc scores in my golflink.

[Fishman Dan]

What did you do about that? That's blatently ripping off the system Grant. The AGU handicap is about your ability, not building the best team for the club.

Question - why would you stay at a C-grade handicap for a club that you despise and hate so much?

The sooner you find a real club the better mate.

[Grunt]

What did you do about that? That's blatently ripping off the system Grant. The AGU handicap is about your ability, not building the best team for the club.

Question - why would you stay at a C-grade handicap for a club that you despise and hate so much?

The sooner you find a real club the better mate.

Well if you look at my games since then I would still have been a C-Grade player as with all the **** in the club it has really started to affect my game, I got DQ'd last game for my card not having my handicap on it. My so called partner forged my sig and placed the card in the box. I could do nothing about it, and as I think of myself as an honset golfer that plays by the rules I had to wear the DQ.

[AndyP]

Update:
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6947/improved7be.jpg

New leader in senecio. Tez and Vegas are in pretty unfamiliar territory in recent times with reductions to their handicaps. Jarro is all over the place.

g69, goughy, do you guys have updated golflink numbers?
Iain, what's happened to your golflink? It's not working.

[Iain]

Update:
Iain, what's happened to your golflink? It's not working.

I'm getting a new number. I joined Riverlakes.

[AndyP]

I joined Riverlakes.
What's up with that?
Closer, I suppose. Problems at Windaroo, as well?

[senecio]

I'm getting a new number. I joined Riverlakes.

Great,

Another person I can heckle along the 15/16/17th stretch while I'm walking the dog. :-D

Ryan

PS.. Did anyone notice who was leading this!! :smt002

[AndyP]

http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=4070501824
Although I just joined Robina so I guess this will change soon.
That would be why I said updated golflink numbers.

[goughy]

Yeah, I do to. I'll change it at some point. But It's gone from 11.0 to 11.2 if that helps.

[AndyP]

But It's gone from 11.0 to 11.2 if that helps.
You were on 11.2 at the end of November, so it effectively hasn't changed.

[markTHEblake]

where did you get 990b luvas handicap from, the golflink in his sig is lapsed.

[AndyP]

where did you get 990b luvas handicap from, the golflink in his sig is lapsed.
Him. It probably hasn't changed much, and you'd like to think it would be fixed at some stage.

[Grunt]

I thought I was going to get the big drop today, but it was not to be, 38 points and no reduction.

[markTHEblake]

Him. It probably hasn't changed much, and you'd like to think it would be fixed at some stage.

last time i saw his golf link it was close to lapsing, so one assumes it has.
if thats right then he has no handicap to improve on?

[terryand]

If he didn't have a handicap, how did he win B greade on Saturday at Jindalee then :smt102
It was in the paper and all.

Terry.

[markTHEblake]

Club handicap - perfectly legit as long as he stays at home.

[AndyP]

Do you need an AGU handicap for pennants?

[Moe Norman]

they recognised it at the oxley comp i think?

[Grunt]

Do you need an AGU handicap for pennants?

For Metropolitan Pennants here is Sydney you need one Andy. For example, to play C grade this year I must not go below 19.5 between 1st January & 31st May this year.

[senecio]

For Metropolitan Pennants here is Sydney you need one Andy. For example, to play C grade this year I must not go below 19.5 between 1st January & 31st May this year.

So if you go below 19.5, you must pull out an be replaced in the team?

Back in my junior days we used to play a pennants and an interclub championship. The interclub was just pennants for those of us not gifted enough to be off low numbers. Players 1 & 2 had a handicap between 5-10, players 2 & 3 were off 11-18 and player 5 had to be over 19. Your handicap was only check at the first round.

I started the season off 22 and 4 months later in final I had come down to 18 only to come up against a guy off 13 :shock: . He had started the season on 20 and lost 7 shots in 4 months.

I was happy to only go down 2&1.

Ryan

[990B Luva]

will be off a brand new handicap that is now....13.9, when my Oxley round comes through (eventually) i should be off 13.3

[Grunt]

So if you go below 19.5, you must pull out an be replaced in the team?



That's the plan.

[990B Luva]

OK, Golflinks is now working, although missin all of my prior history. i have another card (or 2) to come in Oxley will drop me 0.6 and a round from Wynnum that will drop me 3.0 so i will be down to 10.2

[Moe Norman]

if it's proper pennants hcp is useless AndyP - it's off the beater

[Grunt]

All the other Pennants is straight off the stick, it is just graded so the gap between players abilities is not huge.

[AndyP]

Well done on the drop, 990B.

Maybe your Oxley round won't go in if it before the date this new golflink record was created.

At least this drop show we were right in calling you a burglar.....

[BrisVegas]

OK, Golflinks is now working, although missin all of my prior history. i have another card (or 2) to come in Oxley will drop me 0.6 and a round from Wynnum that will drop me 3.0 so i will be down to 10.2

Struth Brett, you're on fire! Always thought you should have been off a lower hcap... :smt002

Can't get over this entry in your golflink though!
13/05/2006 Jindalee GC Stroke 66 63 63 74 59 15 11 15.0 13.8 OK

It's amazing to see a Gross 74 work out to be a Nett 11 over!!! I gott play this Jindalee some time. :shock:

[990B Luva]

its ridiculous that you can have 7 under you handicap and only loose 1.2 when you are off 15 but really should be off 7-8

[AndyP]

You played 7 under nett par, not 7 under handicap.

[Iain]

its ridiculous that you can have 7 under you handicap and only loose 1.2 when you are off 15 but really should be off 7-8

Well that's your fault for being a higher hcp than what you should be......

Plus what AP said!!

[990B Luva]

OK, i am now off 13.2 after saturday, Oxley will bring me to 12.6 and Wynnum will get me to 9.6

[AndyP]

If Wynnum and Oxley aren't in now, what makes you think they will be?

[Jarro]

i thought Oxley were notoriously bad for updating Golflink ??

[990B Luva]

i am getting the card from Oxley, and i got the card from Wynnum on the weekend so i am putting them in asap

[Moe Norman]

how the hell will round at Wynnum lose 3 strokes??

were you 15 under handicap or something?

PS: anyone know the rules on 4BBB handicapping? 49 points on Sunday and on the card 13 times - no update as yet and hopefully not.

[markTHEblake]

PS: anyone know the rules on 4BBB handicapping? 49 points on Sunday and on the card 13 times - no update as yet and hopefully not.

bogey for the holes you had no shot, bogey and a half where you had a shot.

[goughy]

When I first got my hc it was 24. Played in a 4bbb with an old dude off 27. I dropped from 24 to 20 that game after getting on the card 14 times. Two of his scores were 4/4 and would you believe we came second.

I was told that about 12 times will be good for handicapping.

[Moe Norman]

bugger.

I was on the card 13 times for 31 points so I should be ok as my partner was on the card 5 times for 18 points. They needn't know that I made par on all of those 5 holes.

[990B Luva]

Moe, i had 10 under the CCR which was par

[AndyP]

Moe, i had 10 under the CCR which was par
It's only going to drop 0.2 per shot once it's under 11.5.

And how do they account for the fact that you have been technically playing off the wrong handicap in some of these comps?

[senecio]

bugger.

I was on the card 13 times for 31 points so I should be ok as my partner was on the card 5 times for 18 points. They needn't know that I made par on all of those 5 holes.

That's where it gets difficult. I don't think anyone's handicap should be affected in a best ball.

Its possible that you and your partner could both shoot the lights out, but only one of you will lose strokes just because you happened to hole out first more often.

For this reason, my regular best ball partner and I have started to alternate who's score we record when we share a hole, irrespective of who holes out first. The last two times we've played we came out at smack on 9 holes a piece.

Ryan

[Moe Norman]

i'm yet to be handicapped or have it on my golf link record so i suggest it won't be happening anyway.

[markTHEblake]

you only get handicapped in 4bbb at the handicappers discretion. He either cares or doesnt care.

in other words if you are a known burglar - big chance your nicked, otherwise nothing.

[AndyP]

And it's even less likely when you are playing away from your home club.

[AndyP]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3476/improved1rl.jpg

Here's a list of those who have their caps heading in the right direction.


Looks a bit like the top three then the rest, at the moment. Although they'd have to be worried about Choppa being only a couple of spots back.

[Choppa]

Although they'd have to be worried about Choppa being only a couple of spots back.

Especially with my Gold Digest plan to break 80 this weekend at Gailes :smt002

Only 13 GIR and 38 putts apparently :???: :-D

You are just trying to reverse psycho thing on me aren't you AP :-s

[AndyP]

You are just trying to reverse psycho thing on me aren't you AP :-s
I have no plans to murder you, although it has crossed my mind before.
Or does reverse mean you want to murder me? 8-[

[Moe Norman]

Here's a list of those who have their caps heading in the right direction.
define 'right direction', I think mine is definately heading in the right direction.

[AndyP]

You're right, I'm sure Vegas would say that his is heading in the wrong direction even though he is on the above list.

[BrisVegas]

Mine's not heading anywhere! I'll be back on 7.5 after the Gailes round...

[Choppa]

With those new Ravens, I am expecting HUGE things on Sunday!

[senecio]

Looks a bit like the top three then the rest, at the moment. Although they'd have to be worried about Choppa being only a couple of spots back.

Choppa's got no chance.

I had my first lesson today. Time to put some daylight between myself and 2nd place.

Ryan

[BrisVegas]

Maybe you should come out to Gailes from a game from the tips Ryan??? It's always good for the confidence....

[senecio]

I'd love to, but at this stage I'm down to work Saturday.

That means I'm required to spend time with the missus on Sunday.

No golf this weekend, also good for the confidence...;-)

Ryan

[BrisWesty]

Love ya work Ryan (on the hcp).
Keep it going.

[Choppa]

Choppa's got no chance.

I had my first lesson today. Time to put some daylight between myself and 2nd place.

Ryan

Now I have something to play for :evil:
Look out :mrgreen:

[Grunt]

Hopefully I will play well enough over the next 4 days to give my handicap a real shake. I was on a roll this time last year and who knows if the op at the start of this year changed my golf game. I know it has certainly changed my personality a little, in a good or a bad way I am not sure.

[990B Luva]

Hey AP, what about me ....17.1 to 13.2

[PeteyD]

I am having lessons now so intend to give this a real kick in the pants! gotta peg back the .8 I have blown out first though...

[shazza_rs]

peter_rs has just chopped another 0.6 off his hcp

[AndyP]

Hey AP, what about me ....17.1 to 13.2
You didn't tell me you golflink number had changed. My psychic powers aren't that developed yet, that comes with age.


I am having lessons now so intend to give this a real kick in the pants! gotta peg back the .8 I have blown out first though...
Wanna supply your golflink number, Pete?

[Choppa]

Hey AP, what about me ....17.1 to 13.2

Damn Ryan, looks like we need to gang up on 990B :twisted:

[PeteyD]

Wanna supply your golflink number, Pete?

Maybe when it starts to get better! hehe. Although it is in the member details.

[AndyP]

990B slots in at #3.

PeteyD, don't be a wuss.

[PeteyD]

Okay - scarycrap added to sig

[AndyP]

That didn't hurt that much now, did it? FWIW you're not last either.

Good luck with the lessons.

[connico]

OMG im on the list...bahahaha...look at my slow progress..i think i need to start playing more golf.. hehe..wait i do already.. bhaha

[AndyP]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6510/improvedgs6.jpg

Check out the top 5!!! As tight as a fish's arse.

Bullets for this update are CobraSS (what's the secret for the improvement?), Shaz and jarro.

Just remember that this is just a guide for who is the most improved.

[Courty]

What about the rest of us? I wanna see if I can go from Most Improved to Least Improved. :roll:

[brad]

Obviously only positive improvement makes it .... :(

[AndyP]

The rest:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5969/improvedgq3.jpg

You generally have to improve to make a most improved list, right?

[brad]

Yeah ... just lamenting.

I'm going to turn it around before Champs though :)

[PeteyD]

I am trying to keep my inflated handcrap until after the champs ;)

[BrisVegas]

Damn, I've only gone out 0.1 this year... Hardly seems representitive of the pitiful golf I've played....

[CobraSS]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6510/improvedgs6.jpg

Check out the top 5!!! As tight as a fish's arse.

Bullets for this update are CobraSS (what's the secret for the improvement?), Shaz and jarro.



:confused: if I knew I would do it all the time.:?

[BrisVegas]

stoney.... you've gone backwards 38.9% :oops: :oops:

I see you've figured out the only way to win anything around here....:smt002

[Moe Norman]

Damn, I've only gone out 0.1 this year... Hardly seems representitive of the pitiful golf I've played.... gone out a smooth 1.3 here ;)

[Grunt]

Improvement is just around the corner, lets see if I can make a run for it like last year.

[markTHEblake]

are most of those golfers improving, or are they just on the sunny side of a see saw-ing handicap at the moment?

[AndyP]

At least the top 7 have reached their best handicap during the year, I think.

[Bruce]

Every low is a lifetime best for me.

[AndyP]

I thought it would be worthwhile updating the top end, since CobraSS had another outstanding round on the weekend. Congrats on the great round, Andrew.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/493/improvedce6.jpg



:confused: if I knew I would do it all the time.:?
Still no idea? No extra practice at all?

[CobraSS]

I thought it would be worthwhile updating the top end, since CobraSS had another outstanding round on the weekend. Congrats on the great round, Andrew.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/493/improvedce6.jpg



Still no idea? No extra practice at all?


nope haven't hit a practise ball of any kind for two years or more, no lessons, infact never had a one on one lesson at all, only few group clinic's as a junior some 20 plus years ago. No pre-round practise other a dozen or so putts on the practise green and a hand full of chips, essentaillly I just turn up and play once week, mostly, sometimes sat and sun, sometimes I'm on sometimes I'm not, just go with the flow.

I however have no doubt it has alot to do with the fact that I mainly play at Woodford, it's not a hard course, not long, and I am so familiar and comfortable with it (one track wonder :mrgreen:) , that any shot on the course I know exactly what can and can't hurt me, I essentailly can stand over every shot with no doubt in my mind over the consenquences of what a bad shot may leave me with (no fear), put me on any other course then the doubt is there and that leads to bad scores.:-s

[markTHEblake]

I however have no doubt it has alot to do with the fact that I mainly play at Woodford,

either that or you are putting out of your ring these days.

[Stoney]

stoney.... you've gone backwards 38.9% :oops: :oops:

I see you've figured out the only way to win anything around here....:smt002

You just don't know how hard it has been to go out 0.7. The aim was 3 by the champs, I might make it to 4 if I keep playing.:smt002

[Jono]

Wow ... 6.4! Is that your all time low, Andrew? 8)

AP, can you put me on the list as well? Bayview is not on Golflink, but I'm pretty sure I was on 9.6 at Champs last year. Now on 8.3. Thanks.

[AndyP]

Would you have wanted to be added if you hadn't improved?

[CobraSS]

either that or you are putting out of your ring these days.


yes that has had a fair bit to do with it as well, in both my recent 71's I had less than 28 putts, but still i had at least 1, 3 putt in each of those rounds as well :-|

[CobraSS]

Wow ... 6.4! Is that your all time low, Andrew? 8)

AP, can you put me on the list as well? Bayview is not on Golflink, but I'm pretty sure I was on 9.6 at Champs last year. Now on 8.3. Thanks.

yes

[Flowergirl]

Now no making fun of me. I was away from school the day we did percentages ( I had a headache) What is the calculation for working out the percentage. And no being rude. I'm not dumb with everything - a lot of things - but not everything.:?

[AndyP]

For starters, the percentages won't determine the winner.
It's calculated from the difference in your handicap since Nov, divided by your original handicap.

[Flowergirl]

Now I wasn't saying I was in the hunt AP - never that cocky.:-s Just didn't know how to do the math.:smt087 Does that make mine 19.28? Was 19.7 - now 15.9.

[AndyP]

Yep, that's right.

Well done on the big improvement.

[AndyP]

I can't believe how much improvement is coming from OZgolf as a whole.
I can see that there is going to be a tough decision for the most improved award.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9032/improvedml6.jpg


Brad, amanda, Gaz & Eag's, have you guys got new golflink numbers?

[3oneday]

Does Duckhead actually play ?? I thought he just polished his.... clubs ;)

[dc68]

Well at least he's not polishing his .... unlike you.:mrgreen: :-P

[brad]

Brad, amanda, Gaz & Eag's, have you guys got new golflink numbers?

Amanda and I have.

I'll PM them through.

[Grunt]

Well I should improve my handicap after today's round. :) Should be somewhere around 19.?

[Grunt]

Woo Hoo, Handicap reduction of 1.2 after yesterdays round. Now 19.4, will have to try and see if I can stay at 19 for more than 1 round. Now equates to 9.77% reduction :)

[brad]

Congrats Grant!



I have been as low as 18.1, but the current 19.1 tells the story :(

Edit - Woohooo my 500th post!

[Grunt]

Couldn't hold on to the 19, had 33 points today so I will slip back to 20
Oh well.

[Moe Norman]

thanks for the update - you should start a blog!

[Fishman Dan]

I've bought a Bridgestone driver, a new (old) 3 wood, and a Wilson carry-bag today. Surely i'm in the running for most improved golfer?!

[peter_rs]

another drop for shazza down to 15.8.... I'm in trouble

[BrisVegas]

another drop for shazza down to 15.8.... I'm in trouble

agreed... you've been in trouble for a while now. What are you doing to become a better golfer than shazza? Is that what you want? Just curious. Seems you two play a sh!tload of golf, was just wondering what you're working on...

[peter_rs]

I don't set my standard of high, I only want to beat you;)

Its not that much golf, once or twice a weekend. But because of work I have had no range time so I spend the weekend working on my swing.

I'm working on wedges, putting & a game plan. I haven't had a 40+ putt round for awhile and chiped in twice on sunday.

I'm a work in progress I just have to get it all together in a comp round. I think it is working because on most holes I now get a putt for par.

[BrisVegas]

I don't set my standard of high, I only want to beat you;)

Its not that much golf, once or twice a weekend. But because of work I have had no range time so I spend the weekend working on my swing.

Well that woudn't be hard. At this rate, you'll be a better golfer than me next year. I guess what I was asking was do you and shaz compete to get to a certain hcap first? Or do you have other goals?

You mightn't think it, but you're already playing more golf than many of us (me included) ever have. Live it up while you're young and childless!!

[peter_rs]

We both have different goals. Shazza is happy if she can get under 11, I want to try and go lower. How often did you play when you were young or at your lowest hcp? The low markers I know where playing 4+ times a week when the first got low hcp.

You may think its a lot but I'm only just starting to find a game style that I can play, I learn more with every round.

the baby sitters are aready picked for when that day comes :)

[brad]

Amanda and I are actually building an extra room for the ... babysitters #cough parents cough#:)

[BrisVegas]

We both have different goals. Shazza is happy if she can get under 11, I want to try and go lower. How often did you play when you were young or at your lowest hcp? The low markers I know where playing 4+ times a week when the first got low hcp.

You may think its a lot but I'm only just starting to find a game style that I can play, I learn more with every round.

the baby sitters are aready picked for when that day comes :)

You both have plenty of ability to go lower than 9hcap. I played most Saturdays for about a year when I was off my lowest hcap.

Good luck with the baby sitters! My baby sitters are biased towards covering for "her" stuff.. Golf is a luxury it seems...

[peter_rs]

I hope your right.

That is why you make your stuff her stuff.

The floggings only hurt for so long.

[BrisWesty]

You both have plenty of ability to go lower than 9hcap. I played most Saturdays for about a year when I was off my lowest hcap.

Good luck with the baby sitters! My baby sitters are biased towards covering for "her" stuff.. Golf is a luxury it seems...


I'd have to agree with Vegas on this. I've had to "cart" with my 2 girls in tow for 2 rounds of the club championships. Mrs BW chose to go to something else this weekend.


PS Quick, someone do a "greatest improvement" update now I've gotten down to 12.6.

[AndyP]

Updates more often now that we are close to the end.

I'm not sure who'd I'd vote for most improved, as numbers don't tell the full story. A poll will go up in the next couple of weeks.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8577/improvedsy6.jpg

[Ducky]

What is "Jono Rankings"?

[Grunt]

Another Formula that Jono came up with last year Ducky, it is a little more confusing to work out.

[AndyP]

What is "Jono Rankings"?
A mathematical formula was used to try to make the rankings more equitable.
Do a search.

[Grunt]

Have I left my run too late again? should be down to at least 19.1 or even lower after todays round. Hopefully the card will go in by mid next week.

[3oneday]

Given two weeks ago you were 18th I would say you have as much chance as I do ;)

[AndyP]

Pete, are you trying? Come on, you can do it.

Grunt, no chance. Your place wouldn't even change with that drop. Get it down to 16-17 and you'd be a small chance. Well done though.

[AndyP]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3149/improvedwv3.jpg

[Grunt]

Grunt, no chance. Your place wouldn't even change with that drop.

Gee AndyP don't hold back, I guess I just needed some reality to be able to realise i had no chance.

[AndyP]

It's just a forum award. Just keep improving for yourself.

I know I'm no chance.

[Grunt]

I know Andy, I did most of my improving last year, will be tougher to compete from now on but you never know.

[peter_rs]

AP I didn't know I was trying ;)

Sh1t I'm still of 18 that's p1ss poor :)

[AndyP]

Yeah, you suck (the realism seemed to work on Grunt).

[BrisWesty]

I'm in awe of Ducky's improvement.

[BrisWesty]

Was a double post. Does that mean I'm really really in awe?

[Ducky]

Yes. Yes it does.

:smt053

[Grunt]

Had another dig at this should lose a shot at least for todays effort. At a guess should be down to around 17 by the end of the week.

[AndyP]

Gee AndyP don't hold back, I guess I just needed some reality to be able to realise i had no chance.
Oi! You're not listening. hehe

[Grunt]

I can dream can't I?

[brad]

Keep going Grant. You still have a great chance of making your 2006 target.

[AndyP]

I've changed my mind, I'm not going to do a poll. I think it's best if people post who they think the most improved for this OZgolf year (from Champs05 to Champs06) is and why. Feel free to give yourself a boost, if that's what you think.
From these posts, a decision will be made.

First, here's a few stats that may help with your nomination, but in no way determine the winner. As I said last year, "you may take into consideration the way they went about their improvement, or they may have continued on from previous improvement, or they may have only got back to an old handicap and shouldn't be considered."

Here's a few of the potential candidates (I've only supplied golflinks if they are available on the forum):

Ducky - Obtained his handicap at the end of July, starting off 15.0. In just a few months of practice and playing, the cap has been slashed eight shots to 7.0. The initial handicap may have been inflated a little bit, but he is now starting to play consistently to single figures. Should be more improvement to come.

CobraSS - Dropped the handicap from 9.6 to 6.8, after reaching a low of 6.4. Played 2 outstanding rounds of 1 under par at Woodford during the year.
http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=4132900306

senecio - Dropped from 9.6 to 7.2, after hitting a low of 6.9. Started lessons this year and the results showed.
http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=4110301358

billybaub - In to 12.4 from 16.1 and was at 20 in April 05.

peter_rs - From 23.4 to 18.1 over the course of this OZgolf year. Has made a real effort to work on his golf game this year and get the handicap down. Another golfer, who I'd expect to have even more of a drop in handicap in the future. There's also the infamous thread about Pete's way to improvement (long overdue for a bump).
http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=4051802413

Grunt - Not so much this year, but over the last couple of years the handicap has come in from 27.5 to 17.7, it was 21.5 at the start of this OZgolf year. That's a pretty hefty drop.
http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=2090102526

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2305/improvedlb5.jpg

2004 - amanda: http://www.ozgolf.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951
2005 - Courty: http://www.ozgolf.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1773&page=10
2006 - ???????

The winner gets the Most Improved curse. Both of the last two winners have higher handicaps than what they did at the time that they won. They'll also get a hat and medal, chucked in with the curse.

So, who do you think is the most improved OZgolfer?

[Grunt]

It should drop another .3 too, a card for Camden Valley on Friday was going to be faxed to Bathurst as Camden Valley are not on GOlflink.

[AndyP]

So you're nominating yourself?

[shazza_rs]

What about the chicks?

Flowergirl has had good results this year dropping from 19.7 to 16.3. Considering how much work Reenie has put into her golf this year, with lessons, being fitted for drivers, heading down the the range. Heck she even went on a weightloss blitz....

I nominate Flowergirl, with the amount of golf she plays it is quite easy to go down and then straight back out. She has steadily kept going down in hcap.

[Choppa]

I thought we were just doing it on the best handicap reduction.....is there a better guide?

[Grunt]

So you're nominating yourself? You did say you could ;) I doubt anyone else will nominate me.

[AndyP]

What about the chicks?I listed peter_rs....


I thought we were just doing it on the best handicap reduction.....is there a better guide?
The number reduction doesn't tell the full story, however it does provide a guide as to who has improved a lot during the year. The last two years weren't based on numbers.
For example, say you were a 12 handicapper a few years ago, but this year you've dropped from 17 to 14.4. Should you be the most improved?

[just]

Andy
Perhaps you could ask the frontrunners (or anyone who wants to nominate) to write a blurb on their achievements for the year, what effort they have put in (lessons, practice etc). That way we could get a better feel for each of the candidates and not merely vote for a mate/someone we like/someone we know.
It would make the assessment easier.
Just

[AndyP]

Some of the guys have documented what they've been up to via the forum. I don't think it's up to them to nominate themselves though. If they would like to include something, then they should do so.

[brad]

My initial vote is for Ducky. I would really like to know whether this reduction is through talent or a certain type of practice. I mean if he's worked for it, or he's just found some talent and rhythm , surely it's a no brainer .... :)

I've heard that recently he played to 3 :shock:

Go Ducky!

[Flowergirl]

What about the chicks?

Flowergirl has had good results this year dropping from 19.7 to 16.3. Considering how much work Reenie has put into her golf this year, with lessons, being fitted for drivers, heading down the the range. Heck she even went on a weightloss blitz....

I nominate Flowergirl, with the amount of golf she plays it is quite easy to go down and then straight back out. She has steadily kept going down in hcap.

Thanks Shazza.........but hey. You've done great too. :) WE don't have to be nominated to know that we are winners.:smt002

[brad]

Anyone that improved their handicap this year deserves some praise. I admit. But we are nominating the MOST improved, not all those that did improve.

OK, so I'm a little sore about adding a whole shot to my handicap ... :)

[3oneday]

I doubt anyone else will nominate me.only mememe ;)

You are the best NSWelshman (but hey, I've blown out 50% in the past 3 months, what would I know), pity you follow the Rabbits or you'd be a shoe in :p

[Fishman Dan]

Cobra has made the best improvement, from being a good golfer to a better one. Unfortunately he supports the Bulldogs though, so my inclination is to reward Senecio who has done much the same.

Ducky hasn't plateu'd yet obviously, and can be argued he was never a 15 marker, although he could wind up a 5 marker in the next 6 months.

[just]

Well on the basis of the evidence presented I would have to nominate:
Ducky
PeterRs
Grunt

Just

[dc68]

I nominate grunt. With all he has been through this year to improve as much as he has is sensational.

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[Courty]

I nominate grunt. With all he has been through this year to improve as much as he has is sensational.

I'll second that. A close second place to CobraSS.
Ducky's numbers are exaggerated as I reckon 15 was never a realistic number. That said, it's still a hell of a drop in a short time.

[3oneday]

With all he has been through this year:confused: oh... you mean supporting the Rabbits, yeah, takes strength to go on I suppose :)

[Grunt]

:confused: oh... you mean supporting the Rabbits, yeah, takes strength to go on I suppose :)
Hey it's not only this year I have suffered remember. :) The light is at the end of the tunnel just hope it is not a train coming the other way.

[PeteyD]

It is the Tiger Express!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh I vote ducky.

[peter_rs]

I was going to say thanks AP until the girl call:smt002


There's also the infamous thread about Pete's way to improvement (long overdue for a bump).


This year for me this year has been more about getting my head in the game then working on my swing. I think I have done it a bit... I don't hit driver on every hole broken 80 twice in the last two months with no range time. But forgetting all that what I'm most happy about is I won a 36 hole stroke event (all be it B grade) at middle ridge a course I love to hate, knowing I was 2nd going into the finial round.

The way to improvement is simple

1.Love your wedges
2.love your putter more
3.love your self... have confidence and trust your swing.

SPREAD THE LOVE :mrgreen:

alot of people have done well this year.

[shazza_rs]

I vote for myself...... if you are basing Grunt's improvement over two years (27.5-17.7). I have gone from 24.4 to 15.8 in two years.

I won't say i've worked on my game to the extent some of the blokes on here have, but i have changed clubs more often than ever before, new putter almost bi-monthly, bag changes galore. :):) :mrgreen:

Improvement isn't all about a hcp reduction. I believe improvement stems into many other areas, like course management, etiquette, mental toughness, general attitude etc.

[BrisVegas]

wow, both grunt and shaz have been on a tear! Good work guys. Having watched shaz play for a year or two now, it's always been obvious how much natural ability she has. I think poidda's surprise on Sunday when I told him shaz was off 18 after she pounded another driver down the middle (with her UST V2 stiff-shafted driver!!) speaks volumes about how much more potential she's got. Great stuff, well done.

[Ducky]

Well, it would be the right thing for me to make a post considering I have been nominated.

Up until three months ago, I had not played golf seriously for quite some time (approximately six years). Of course, such an extended period of absence required me to earn my handicap once again. As stated above, this became 15.0.

There is obviously some speculation as to whether not my handicap should have been this high, but the truth to the matter is that I was struggling at the time with my game. I had my clubs adjusted (bent 2º upright and lengthened 1") and my previous bad habits (i.e. swing compensations) had surfaced causing inconsistent ball-striking.

This struggle with bad form continued for quite some time, and it was only after getting into contact with a competent teaching professional (who use to teach Peter O'Malley before he left the country) that I was able to start ironing out some of my swing flaws. I still continue to get a lesson every two weeks (depending on how I am performing), but they mainly consist of minor adjustments.

My handicap is currently 7.0, but I firmly believe that I am capable of reaching 5.0 by the end of the year. My short game has been the consistent 'weak link' in my game for quite a while (even as a junior golfer), so I plan to commit a lot more time to improving it.

My short-term goals include participating in the Bathurst Open (28-29 October), NSW Country Championship (4-5 November), and U23 District Match Play. My long-term goals include (in order of preference) improving my physical performance (i.e. flexibility and strength), transitioning to a one plane swing, and reaching a 0.0 (scratch) handicap.

I have left out quite a lot of details (as I did not wish to bore everyone), but if anyone would like further information you're more than welcome to ask. In relation to whether I deserve the 'Most Improved Golfer' title, if I was being honest I would say that there are several other members who are probably more deserving (such as Grant). I do not attend OzGolf days (the only member I have played a round with is Vince), will not be attending the 2006 OzGolf championships, and have not had to overcome any life threatening circumstances (and hope I never have to).

Thanks.

[BrisVegas]

congratulations on the progress you've made ducky. I don't know much about you, other than the Nike fetish, but it sounds like you are commited to your goals, so I don't doubt you'll be a scratch player soon enough. Awesome work so far.

[AndyP]

Ducky, you had me at "Well".


Improvement isn't all about a hcp reduction. I believe improvement stems into many other areas, like course management, etiquette, mental toughness, general attitude etc. Which is what I have been saying. The fact that both amanda and courty posted about their goals and progress as they were improving helped their cases.

I still can't decide who I think the most improved is. I'll think on it some more.

[Fishman Dan]

So all of the candidates should submit a 1000 word essay on why they think they deserve it.

[Choppa]

Am I the only one who thinks this is getting a little bit.....I dunno, silly.

Most improved = best handicap reduction. If you want to put rules around that so that people who are returning to the game are ineligible then cool, but isn't handicap the true indication of most improved?

[just]

No Choppa it isn't getting silly. If you discount Ducky because he is returing to the game the next in line is CobraSS. Look at his golflink,his reduction is based on three good rounds yet his scoring average for the past two years hasn't changed all that much and he has been low before, I wouldn't call that great improvement(and don't misunderstand, I am not saying he isn't playing well and his handicap improvement isn't deserved). Compare this to a Grunt or a PeterRs who have never been this low before, have continually improved over the past year (and two years), their scoring averages have decreased in that period-now thats what I call improvement.
Just offering another point of view.
Just

[AndyP]

Does it count if it's not in a comp?

[Choppa]

Ok Just, that's probably a fair point. Although I still do think a handicap reduction of some sort, with rules applied, should be the basis.

Now Andy, just work it out would you.

[AndyP]

Nah, you've convinced me it's a stupid idea, and I'm keeping the medal and hat for myself.

[Choppa]

Take your bat and ball too.

[3oneday]

Nah, you've convinced me it's a stupid idea, and I'm keeping the medal and hat for myself.what, no cheque ??? sheepstation ???

;)

[AndyP]

Take your bat and ball too.
It's golf, not cricket, you clown.

[BrisWesty]

Kids, if the lot of you can't get along without fighting about it, I'll look after it for you.
(Well it's the only way I'd get near it!) ;-)

[Choppa]

Andy's just being childish.

[dc68]

What else is new? nananananana :p

[AndyP]

He started it.

Why is the highest poster on the forum absent from this thread?

[brad]

Maybe he's willing to let you decide ... or maybe allow others to increase their counts.

Ducky's (or is it Duckies:)) post only proves that he's a good bloke and still deserves the most improved.

Grant - your a very close second mate !

[Iain]

Andy's just being childish.

Says the pot to the kettle...... :roll:

[goughy]

"But! But! You're black?"

[Ducky]

:smt069

[AndyP]

You still haven't got over your obsession with that emoticon?

[Ducky]

No, it still gets a run every once in a while.

[peter_rs]

Shazza change your signature.... 15.1 baby. skippped 16 & 17. :)

[BrisWesty]

Look out world, Peter rs is making a huge run down the outside.
Tezza will need to be out there to sort out the photo finish.

[AndyP]

Shazza change your signature.... 15.1 baby. skippped 16 & 17. :)
Did you check her golflink too? You're still getting towelled up, even if it is an error.

[goughy]

I spotted that too and pointed it out in another thread. He's not getting an even break eh!