The Players

[irishamateur]

Some good scoring today. TW and Rory off to a good start!

TW has changed driver shaft from the Tour AD back to his old Whiteboard..

[8081travis]

watch the sales patterns now!

[popper81]

Hahaha.


Leader's first tournament round there. Rather impressive start. Tied the course record with Greg Normal & Fred Cupals.

[Jarro]

I'd love to grab an esky, fill it with beer, grab about 100 balls and head to the 17th tee.

What a fun tee shot :)

[mrbluu]

I'm a massive fan of short par 3's....

[Dude, Where's my Par?]

I'd love to grab an esky, fill it with beer, grab about 100 balls and head to the 17th tee.

What a fun tee shot :)
what do you reckon your success percentage out of the 100 would be?
:)

I am confident I would finish off the esky, 100% certainty there

[sms316]

what do you reckon your success percentage out of the 100 would be?:)I am confident I would finish off the esky, 100% certainty there Your esky would be full of pink lemonade.

[Dude, Where's my Par?]

Your esky would be full of pink lemonade.
to share with your missus?

[sms316]

to share with your missus? She doesn't hang with homos.

[Dotty]

I'd love to grab an esky, fill it with beer, grab about 100 balls and head to the 17th tee.

What a fun tee shot :)
I'd also take Solarman and a video camera.

[oncewasagolfer]

I'd also take Solarman and a video camera.

Still remember that video someone put up of 4 of the worst regular golfers and that dude putting around the walkway after hitting a heap in the water:)

[oncewasagolfer]

Was the worlds worst golfer don't know why I thought it was 4 golfers.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i_3G8_VNfPw
Classic:lol:

[Jarro]

Sergio going along nicely at 11 under, one shot ahead of Woods.

[Paddy]

But does anyone expect Sergio to win?

[Waddzy]

Scott looks to be playing pretty well , warming upto the weekend again?

[Pieface]

Looks like Castro got a reality check today. 78 to go with his course record Thursday. Ouch!

[mrbluu]

Adam Scott could of went really low today. He bogeyed one the par 5's and only had mid irons into 2 others and missed the green. Can't wait for tomorrow to watch Tiger and Sergio in the same group.

[Daves]

Leishman surge! Chalmers in the mix as well.

[sms316]

Webb Simpson - hosel rocket!

[Jarro]

Sergio starting to crumble a bit, spraying his 3 wood off the tee.

[Johnny Canuck]

Webb Simpson - hosel rocket! Too bad it wasn't with the belly.

[Marto65]

I'd love to grab an esky, fill it with beer, grab about 100 balls and head to the 17th tee.

What a fun tee shot :)

Played it in 1990. Dumped 1 in the piss. Made 5. Had 85.

[Iain]

Webb Simpson - hosel rocket!

He seems to be the pro most likely.

[Ferrins]

Is Sergio pissed at Woods for distracting him?

[sms316]

Is Sergio pissed at Woods for distracting him? Something like that. Woods pulled is 5 wood out of his bag on a par 5 while Garcia was hitting. Crowd reacted to Woods going for the green and supposedly put of Garcia. Woods says he wasn't able to see Garcia but a Marshall said that he had hit. Garcia having a cry.

[Jarro]

I'm sure Tiger would've cried too

[sms316]

Nobody would have given a shit what club Sergio pulled out.

[Captain Nemo]

http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9265485/2013-players-championship-sergio-garcia-says-tiger-woods-distracted-shot

[mrbluu]

I think sergio is being a sook.....

[idgolfguy]

One of the mental strategies is to not blame yourself - Nicklaus use to yell at his caddy, Angelo, whenever he played a poor shot.

Garcia is a spoilt brat.

[Trento]

Harden up Sergio,
He is such a poof

[Ned]

Anyone seen Westwood's air swing?

[Daves]

Anyone seen Westwood's air swing?

Yep, he was up tight against a tree. He dropped it inside on the downswing and caught the trunk of the tree hard behind him.

[sms316]

Anyone seen Westwood's air swing? DC would have at least got some hosel on it.

[aym]

no harm in having a whinge, tiger is just as bad, out of the two tiger is generally the bigger sook...

[Daves]

Tiger scowls and sulks, Sergio sooks.

[idgolfguy]

No, he blames himself and cameras. The crowd knows what expected.

[Yossarian]

Tiger is great at publicly taking responsibility.

[sms316]

Why should he take responsibility for someone else making noise?

[oncewasagolfer]

Just watching the completion of the 3rd round both tiger and sergio playing well and likely to be paired for the final round.

[Jeffo1123]

Just watching the completion of the 3rd round both tiger and sergio playing well and likely to be paired for the final round. Where were you watching it??

[Dcanto]

Tiger, Sergio and Lingmerth all tied at -11 heading into the final round.

[TheNuclearOne]

Nice shot by the Serg. Course looks awesome.

[TheNuclearOne]

Only watched a few shots but how good is Woods hitting it.

[oncewasagolfer]

Sergio has made a slow start tiger looking the goods with 9 to play.

[oncewasagolfer]

Where were you watching it??

Coolsports

[Ferrins]

Quality 5 wood, kitty.

[Ferrins]

Get ready for a call in about incorrect drop.

[Jarro]

Didn't look like he dropped it in the right spot to me :roll:

[Paddy]

It sure looked that way

[goughy]

Are we talking tiger here?

[Jarro]

Are we talking tiger here?

Yep

[Daves]

Sergio has a total brain explosion.

[Ferrins]

El Wetto!

[Sydney Hacker]

What happened? Surely he would have calld a rules official over this time?

[sms316]

Sergio McAvoy?

[idgolfguy]

Twice!

[Jarro]

Can't believe Sergios third shot on 17 bounced back into the water !!!

[timah!]

Just nuts!

[LeftyHoges]

Another top 10 for Leishman. Doing well this year.

[Ferrins]

Tiger's practice swings on the 18th must of put Sergio off.

[Jeffo1123]

Sergio in the water again on 18?!?!?!? He is my favorite golfer in the world at the moment as he has single handedly kept Stenson in the top 5 for my bet!!

[goughy]

Unlike many golfers on the tour, you can't accuse Sergio of being boring!

[SundayHack]

Sergio is a sook. Always blaming someone or something for his misfortunes. Reminds me of Colin Montgomerie he will never win a major with his attitude.

[Webster]

Go Sergio! (crybaby dickwad)

[Puji]

Poor Sergio...

Shows Tiger's composure though. After that double things could have still gone pretty badly. Short sided himself a few times but was good enough to scramble (even birdie).

4 from 7.

I'd love to dig through the "tiger - gaawwwn" thread and ask for a second comment from those who said he would never be #1 again.

[Ashes]

Had a good lol at Sergio, never a good look when you try and blame someone else for your performance.

How long until its known if Tiger gets DQ'd?

[pt73]

He won't be, the PGATOUR issued a statement before he had finished the round.

http://www.pgatour.com/tourreport/2013/05/12/statement-issued-on-woods--drop.html

[mrbluu]

Sergio had no reason to take that shot on at 17. If he had any heart would have tried to get into a playoff with Tiger and beat him heads up!!

[HCC]

sergio is my most hated player, always whinging about something.

Go Tiger...

[Ashes]

"It sounds like I was the bad guy here. I was the victim."
Sergio Garcia

[razaar]

Sergio won a play-off on the 17th with a shot over that bunker to the same pin placement. That shot was obviously in his mind when he arrived at the tee. For some reason he didn't commit to the shot. Tiger did a similar thing when he drove into the water. They both looked very ordinary on both those shots. Golf can be a humbling game, nobody is exempt.

[Puji]

Humbling to the tune of $1,710,000 for TW.

[Jerrymoo]

Haha, kinda feel bad for Sergio.

He had to go for it, didn't come off... and now the analysts/press are going to let him have it.

[mrbluu]

IMO, I don't think that was a shot he should of taken on. There was plenty room left of that flag. He was tied with Tiger at the time. Sure a birdie would have been great, but a par would have put pressure on Tiger to Par 18. What he did was essentially gave Tiger a free ride home. He obviously didn't think he could beat Tiger in a playoff hence he felt he needed to attack.

[goughy]

So rather than a boring par, he made it into a awesome to watch double par+ some. Cool. Exciting stuff.

[Jerrymoo]

Bluu, I can understand that.

But he probably figured TW would make par at worst at the 18th, and he'd need to birdie either 17 or 18 to force a playoff.

And, IMO, birdie at 17 probably more likely than birdie at 18.

[mrbluu]

But he was already tied with the lead. Let Tiger make the first mistake, then if he doesn't he can always have a crack on the 18th. No need to give it away!!!

[Jerrymoo]

Ah, my bad — lead was tied.

[Jarro]

To be fair, Sergio seemed to slightly mishit the shot.

He had the right club in his hand for the shot .... PW.

[Webster]

He must have mis hit both those PW's then Jarro.

[markTHEblake]

How does anyone know Sergio attacked the pin? He might have aimed well left and just skanked it.

[8081travis]

Sergio, so much talent just missing the mental game to go with it, TW best start to a year in his career according to golf channel, hopefully pick up a major this year too

[mrbluu]

MTB if you watched the coverage, he was taking dead aim at the flag.

What I don't understand is that, he said because his adrenaline was flowing after birding 16, he wasn't sure how hard to hit the wedge and he just hit it too soft. If that was the case, wouldn't it be smarter to go centre green???

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/17th-hole-bites-garcia-this-time-around/

[oncewasagolfer]

It was such a good final round until Sergio did that and handed it to tiger. Tiger was taking a leaf out of my book with that pull hook on 14:)

[markTHEblake]

MTB if you watched the coverage, he was taking dead aim at the flag.

I am pretty sure Sergio plays with a draw. So he would have to be aiming right to take dead aim at the flag.

[Iain]

I am pretty sure Sergio plays with a draw. So he would have to be aiming right to take dead aim at the flag.

I'm pretty sure Sergio can play a fade when required.

[Webster]

Pretty sure he hit two shit shots when under the pump.

[markTHEblake]

Cross wind? :-)

[Johnny Canuck]

I dislike Sergio, a lot.

Respect to him for going after the pin and playing with a bit of excitement.

[oncewasagolfer]

They said on the coverage that his stock shot is a fade. It was a bad shot with a wedge though.

[Puji]

Fantastic article. I never realised how much Garcia and Woods had it in for each other.


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/bunker-mentality/tiger-woods-owns-sergio-garcia-once-again-200919870.html;_ylt=Ag5MvdF6OgS6TMzesLx2.txVg4t4;_ ylu=X3oDMTQyY3E3MDVuBG1pdANGZWF0dXJlZCBNZWdhdHJvbi BHb2xmIFNGBHBrZwMwNGMxNDE2Zi0wZDQyLTNiZDUtODEwZS00 MDIyOTM0MjAzYmYEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21lZ2F0cm9uBHZlcgMwNT EyNTAzMC1iYzA5LTExZTItYmQ0MS0yMTNhNzFhNTBjOGE-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpMTRiNDB0BGludGwDZ2IEbGFuZwNlbi1nYgRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANnb2xmBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

[matty]

Can't stand the victim mentality of Garcia. No champion has ever considered themselves a victim. And as for hearing clubs move in the backswing, talk about precious. Where's the focus!

[popper81]

To be fair, I think it was more the crowd reaction to Tiger pulling a club, then the actual pulling of the club, that (EDIT: "allegedly") distracted him.

[LoveGolf2012]

Sergio said he had hit a lot of good shots up until then so for him thats golf i guess.I dont think you could say the guy is mentally weak or the like.Look at his career stats,$$$ won,its far from shabby.I am tipping yesterday cost him roughly 650-700,000 but not sure they look at it like that at that level I.E Sergio/Tiger its about the W

[markTHEblake]

Where did Garcia cry victim or complain? The interviewer asked him a specific question about crowd noise

[mrbluu]

Where did Garcia cry victim or complain? The interviewer asked him a specific question about crowd noise

I think it was after Sunday's round and he was asked if he would have done anything or reacted differently, he said he was the victim.

[Outcast]

I think it was after Sunday's round and he was asked if he would have done anything or reacted differently, he said he was the victim.

I think he was referring to the way the media & social media reacted to the incident rather than 'being the victim of the incident'.

I also find it interesting that everyone hacks on Sergio's dunking the shot on 17 (twice) & handing Tiger the victory; Pretty sure Maggert would have been in contention for a playoff if he hadn't dunked it & the young Swede (name escapes me) had a birdie opportunity on 17 & missed it & then made a mess of 18...

It wasn't just Sergio that folded....

[Puji]

Ergh. Maggot.

[HCC]

Tiger mentally tough very tough. He seems oblivious to the surroundings. He sticks to his plan, really impressed with those 300 yards with woods. Can't wait for us open. And another win in memorial.

[IanO]

I think he was referring to the way the media & social media reacted to the incident rather than 'being the victim of the incident'.

I also find it interesting that everyone hacks on Sergio's dunking the shot on 17 (twice) & handing Tiger the victory; Pretty sure Maggert would have been in contention for a playoff if he hadn't dunked it & the young Swede (name escapes me) had a birdie opportunity on 17 & missed it & then made a mess of 18...

It wasn't just Sergio that folded....

Yes ... There were multiple people who folded, Sergio was just the most spectacular.

[goughy]

Like him or not, he made things interesting!

[IanO]

Like him or not, he made things interesting!

^^ This, it was certainly interesting and I thought that he was pretty stoic (for him)

[Steve]

Just, wondering if anyone else thinks that that was another questionable drop by Tiger, I don't think it ever crossed land once it left the tee box. Mmmmm

[Dingo]

Just, wondering if anyone else thinks that that was another questionable drop by Tiger, I don't think it ever crossed land once it left the tee box. Mmmmm

It certainly looked suspect and some of the TV commentary suggests it was. Even the video replay made it look bad (but it wasn't down the line).

The two most convincing things would be what people behind the tee saw and a line drawn from the point of the splash to the point where the ball was said to have crossed the hazard (which would either be plausible for a hooking ball or not). Maybe we'll never know.

I would have thought that more people would have been interested, but it just doesn't seem to have any legs. Some are convinced that he is a cheat. Others are equally convinced he is being unfairly accused. I think he sold his soul to the devil. It's the only reasonable explanation for a short game that good. He's a freak!

[3Puttpete]

From LA Times

Woods’ playing partner, Casey Wittenberg, said after the round that that was not the case.

“No, not at all. I saw it perfectly off the tee,” he said. “We talked to each other. He asked me exactly where it crossed. I told him I thought it crossed on the corner of the bunker right where he took his drop, and it’s all good.

“There is no doubt, guys. The ball crossed where he dropped.”

[Jarro]

The camera shot taken from the airship seemed to indicate the ball travelled almost totally over water from the tee.

Johnny Miller questioned the drop at the time.

[Peter]

Wittenberg is pretty convincing, so it's hard to make a case for this being anything other than a poor camera angle.

Is there any tape of their conversation? I wonder if Tiger said, "Hey Casey, where do you think that crossed?" or "Hey Casey, it looked to me like it crossed at the corner of the bunker. What do you think?".

[Steve]

Thanks for that, I just seen some footage on TV tonight, I missed it the other day and wasn't sure. But the devil and the short game may have some merit lol.

[sms316]

Unless the camera was directly overhead you cannot tell due to parallax error.

[Dingo]

Unless the camera was directly overhead you cannot tell due to parallax error.

You certainly can't rely on the raw vision as the camera was panning for the last 50m of its flight, but you can tell quite a bit about the flight of the ball for the first 50m or so, and of course corrections for parallax error are pretty straightforward by computer analysis (but I don't think they had it).

It is a pity that Wittenberg didn't describe the flight of the ball in more detail, and of course Tiger looked away very early which would suggest he did not wait to see whether the ball would hook far enough to take it into the drink.

I'd be interested in hearing what others behind the tee had to say. We all know how hard it is to pick the exact spot a ball crosses a lateral water hazard.

[markTHEblake]

So does this mean that everytime Woods takes a drop from now on, all the wankers are going to get out their protractors and rulers to see if they can catch him stealing an inch or two.

[sms316]

Marshal-gate continues. 3rd marshal from Tiger/Sergio dust up on #2 says he told Tiger that Sergio had hit. Can this end now?”
One drama down. Sergio is still a crybaby.

[Dingo]

So does this mean that everytime Woods takes a drop from now on, all the wankers are going to get out their protractors and rulers to see if they can catch him stealing an inch or two.

Yep, no doubt about it.

Would you allow phone ins about rules violations? How about spectators reporting rules violations? With other sports using video referrals, do they have a place in professional golf?

[Outcast]

So does this mean that everytime Woods takes a drop from now on, all the wankers are going to get out their protractors and rulers to see if they can catch him stealing an inch or two.

++1000; I can't believe all the rubbish online over this; I think the USPGA official report summed it up very well, the group acted within the rules of golf in determining where they believed it crossed the margin of the hazard... end of argument really!!

Whilst not a huge fan of Tiger Woods, I just cannot understand the hysteria of what appears to be a growing group of Tiger haters...

[Webster]

Yep, no doubt about it.

Would you allow phone ins about rules violations? How about spectators reporting rules violations? With other sports using video referrals, do they have a place in professional golf?

You need to accept the decision made by the people who were there and move along....

[Steve]

Sorry, but asking if others believe if it was a questionable drop, doesn't make me a Tiger hater. It a simple question. The other question is why has TW gone from a player who wouldn't tie his lace without a rules official, into one who is now making his own decisions.Mmmmmm, golf lover yes, not a Tiger hater.

[Dingo]

You need to accept the decision made by the people who were there and move along....

Works for me. Do caddies and spectators get a say, or just fellow competitors and rules officials?

Actually, scratch the question because rules officials have referred to spectators on numerous occasions.

[Outcast]

Sorry, but asking if others believe if it was a questionable drop, doesn't make me a Tiger hater. It a simple question. The other question is why has TW gone from a player who wouldn't tie his lace without a rules official, into one who is now making his own decisions.Mmmmmm, golf lover yes, not a Tiger hater.

Steve

sorry, the term Tiger Hater was not actually directed at anyone on here. I think the discussion on here has actually been quite reasonable. I was more referring to the frenzy of Tiger Hate that has been on other social media sites. Apologies if you thought the comment was directed your way.

[Webster]

Works for me. Do caddies and spectators get a say, or just fellow competitors and rules officials?

Actually, scratch the question because rules officials have referred to spectators on numerous occasions.

In the abscence of any evidence to suggest that Tiger did the wrong thing, I'm happy to go with the decision made by his marker and the rules officials on the day. Note that internet nutcases drawing lines on overheads (for example) does not constitute evidence.

[Dingo]

In the abscence of any evidence to suggest that Tiger did the wrong thing, I'm happy to go with the decision made by his marker and the rules officials on the day. Note that internet nutcases drawing lines on overheads (for example) does not constitute evidence.

I think your earlier answer covers the question. It is also consistent with the idea that players are responsible for applying the rules which is good for the game.

[markTHEblake]

the term Tiger Hater was not actually directed at anyone on here.

I'll wear that hat!

Well technically not, cos I said a couple weeks ago, that I dont hate anyone. But I really enjoy seeing him not win! Does not mean I'll try to ring Dean Beman if he has a wrinkle in his shirt.

[TheNuclearOne]

The drops gone quiet, but the officials have come out and stated irrefutably he was not told Sergio had hit and it seems pretty accepted that he lied, for whatever reason.

[Webster]

TNO, see post #113

[Steve]

Steve

sorry, the term Tiger Hater was not actually directed at anyone on here. I think the discussion on here has actually been quite reasonable. I was more referring to the frenzy of Tiger Hate that has been on other social media sites. Apologies if you thought the comment was directed your way.

No offence taken,

[TheNuclearOne]

TNO, see post #113

That's a long way different to what i'm reading

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2013/05/marshal-i-didnt-say-anything-to-tiger-about-sergio.html?sct=hp1

[Jarro]

That's a long way different to what i'm reading

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2013/05/marshal-i-didnt-say-anything-to-tiger-about-sergio.html?sct=hp1

Interesting....

[IanO]

TNO did you see the additional piece that was added to the link you put up? Another Marshall said that it was him who spoke to Tiger and the first guy then retracted his comment on character saying that he had an earpiece in and did not hear the exchange.

[Jarro]

Unless the camera was directly overhead you cannot tell due to parallax error.

You mean like at about the 2:30 minute mark ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SL57mef4E

[Webster]

It's not even close to being overhead Jarro.

[Jarro]

Yes Jack.

It gives a good indication of where the ball last crossed the hazard line though don't you think ?

[Puji]

FFS, even one of the commentators said he was directly behind tiger when he hit the shot and he had no doubt that that was the correct place to drop.

Do people honestly think that Tiger would try and pull one over everyone after the last incident?

That douche in the video needs to get a life.

Besides; whether he dropped at the end of the tee box or up near the bunker; he would have had a 6 anyway.

[Ashes]

You mean like at about the 2:30 minute mark ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SL57mef4E Funniest YouTube video I've seen in a while!

[sms316]

Yes Jack.

It gives a good indication of where the ball last crossed the hazard line though don't you think ?
I would take a guess that the camera is about 150m in the air and close to the tree line. No way you can tell from that position.

[Webster]

Yes Jack.

It gives a good indication of where the ball last crossed the hazard line though don't you think ?

No.

[Shadesy]

Who was that chop on the video?

A nobody? Drop looked ok from the video.

Call was made by the marker, and several witnesses. Case closed.

Everything else is superfluous.

[IanO]

So we are giving this dill even more air time? Surely this is a dead discussion?

[Webster]

But Shadesy, the haters want to believe Tiger did the wrong thing.

I don't recall any discussion when Sergio's integrity was questioned when marking his ball the week before.

[Pieface]

I would take a guess that the camera is about 150m in the air and close to the tree line. No way you can tell from that position.

That's some good zoom he's got on that camera

[live4golf]

But Shadesy, the haters want to believe Tiger did the wrong thing.

I don't recall any discussion when Sergio's integrity was questioned when marking his ball the week before.

Until he raises the bar from spitting in the cup to taking a dump, I don't think people will care about Sergio.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APKuEGArWuE

[popper81]

You mean like at about the 2:30 minute mark ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SL57mef4E

What a complete wanker.... Seriously.

[sol381]

Biggest joke in sport when the viewing public can make a call on where a player drops...if the players partners or officials think its ok at the time let it go..if it shows up later on camera too bad.... too many bloody rules in this game already..it also disadvantages higher profile players who are always being filmed. unless every player in every tournament has a camera on them these idiots who ring up about a foul should be ignored.

[virge666]

Biggest joke in sport when the viewing public can make a call on where a player drops...if the players partners or officials think its ok at the time let it go..if it shows up later on camera too bad.... too many bloody rules in this game already..it also disadvantages higher profile players who are always being filmed. unless every player in every tournament has a camera on them these idiots who ring up about a foul should be ignored.

+1000

[mrbluu]

Tiger is the only person I know who repetitively gets criticised even when winning. He could be leading a tournament by 5 and the talk about his flaws in his game.

Even during final round at the players, he is up by 2 playing the 10th, hits a safe shot 20feet right of a pin tucked left and the commentators talk about how shit the shot was. I bet if Nicholas played the same shot in the circumstances, they will banging on about how good his course management is.

[Daves]

Tiger is the only person I know who repetitively gets criticised even when winning. He could be leading a tournament by 5 and the talk about his flaws in his game.

Even during final round at the players, he is up by 2 playing the 10th, hits a safe shot 20feet right of a pin tucked left and the commentators talk about how shit the shot was. I bet if Nicholas played the same shot in the circumstances, they will banging on about how good his course management is.

Nicholas no, Nicklaus maybe:wink:

[mrbluu]

that guy as well.....

[markTHEblake]

First time I have seen an image of that fairway where Tiger hit it in the water, when the hazard shapes away like that it is very difficult to get a ball to cross where he dropped it, would have to have been a massive duck hook starting a long way right. On that information alone I am fairly convinced he stole a couple hundred metres.

But the rules are the rules, the decision announced by the PGA tour is the correct one even if Cameras/physics/science proves otherwise later.

[Puji]

Like kicking a dead horse.

Is there Nothing better to talk about regarding the whole tournament than something which will make no difference?

[Dingo]

I would take a guess that the camera is about 150m in the air and close to the tree line. No way you can tell from that position.

What about the line the ball started on (for the first few seconds of flight)? It seemed to be pretty close to coming straight at the camera to me so far less doubt there. Of course you'd need to know what angle the tee was at.

Edit: the mow lines on the tee do seem to point a long way to the right. If anything the ball looks like it started to the right of those mow lines.

[TheNuclearOne]

First time I have seen an image of that fairway where Tiger hit it in the water, when the hazard shapes away like that it is very difficult to get a ball to cross where he dropped it, would have to have been a massive duck hook starting a long way right. On that information alone I am fairly convinced he stole a couple hundred metres.

But the rules are the rules, the decision announced by the PGA tour is the correct one even if Cameras/physics/science proves otherwise later.


True and true.

[Dingo]

...
Call was made by the marker, and several witnesses. Case closed.
...

Jack said something similar and I agree. The result stands.

The problem for the game is that is not where the controversy will end because of the public availability of video. Some people are basically telling others to shut up. That sure isn't going to work.

[Dingo]

...
I don't recall any discussion when Sergio's integrity was questioned when marking his ball the week before.

What happened Jack? Creative marking?

[Webster]

Yep.

[Steve]

Talking about Sergio's ball marking skill, he moved his ball whilst marking it at the end of day three, ok though it moved then rested back in the same place.

[matty]

Tiger cheated again. You'll never convince the fanboys otherwise.

[LeftyHoges]

Nicholas no, Nicklaus maybe:wink:

Damn straight. I'm much better than that.

[Johnny Canuck]

Like kicking a dead horse. Is there Nothing better to talk about regarding the whole tournament than something which will make no difference? Leave Britney Alone!

[sms316]

Sergio endears himself once again.


Garcia was on stage with the rest of the victorious 2012 European Ryder Cup (http://www.golfchannel.com/topics/events/ryder-cup.htm) team when he was asked by Golf Channel's Steve Sands, who was emceeing the event, whether he would invite Woods over for dinner at the U.S. Open next month.

The Spaniard replied, according to The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/may/22/sergio-garcia-remark-tiger-woods-row): “He can come over every night – we will serve fried chicken.”


http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/garcia-controversial-tiger-woods-remarks/

[Yossarian]

:shock:

[Marto65]

Sounds like the Emcee got the answer he was digging for. Why ask the stupid question in the first place.

[Dcanto]

One of the funniest things I remember from the 2009 Australian Masters, was standing on the range at the end of the second round and listening to Stuart Appleby describe to his coach the Dave Chappelle skit 'Racial Draft'. Hearing Stuart impersonate 'Tiger's' comment in the skit "goodbye fried rice, hello fired chicken" cracked me up.