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simmsy
17th March 2013, 11:50 AM
At my home course (member since just before Xmas) I am having issues with one hole.

The 9th at Gosnells is a pretty straight up and down par 3. Elevated green with two tiers. I typically hit6or7i into it.

I'm yet to hit this green in comp and have only it it once I think in practice.

It's now turned into a bit of a head ****!

Usually when I have an issue on a certain hole ill hit in a handful of shots until I get some good results, but with this one it hits straight back into the clubhouse so don't want to hot 10 shots into the green.

Any ideas of how to get over this?
how do the gurus tackle a hole that causes them problems?

rubin
17th March 2013, 11:58 AM
That's the one that's uphill?


Fwiw I reckon that's the only way u can do it. Get out there when its quiet and hit a few dozen balls over a few different clubs.

Or start from the ladies tees and move back from there - just a thought but making it somewhat shorter means less club and less to go wrong.

Ashes
17th March 2013, 12:14 PM
I can show you how it's done when I get back into playing golf Simmsy.

Shortylook
17th March 2013, 12:25 PM
At my home course (member since just before Xmas) I am having issues with one hole.

The 9th at Gosnells is a pretty straight up and down par 3. Elevated green with two tiers. I typically hit6or7i into it.

I'm yet to hit this green in comp and have only it it once I think in practice.

It's now turned into a bit of a head ****!

Usually when I have an issue on a certain hole ill hit in a handful of shots until I get some good results, but with this one it hits straight back into the clubhouse so don't want to hot 10 shots into the green.

Any ideas of how to get over this?
how do the gurus tackle a hole that causes them problems?
I would tell you what I did/got told, but with cap difference and game ability, my opinion is prob worth shit to you mate

Ferrins
17th March 2013, 02:16 PM
I would go to it on a quiet day and if I missed the green then I'd go get the ball and return to the tee. Would keep repeating this for ten shots. If I hit the green then would just tee up the next one.

simmsy
17th March 2013, 02:24 PM
mmm yeah that might be the go Ferrins.

It's an important hole as its usually my 18th and I get a shot on it. Maybe that's creating part of the head issues too.

AndyP
17th March 2013, 03:27 PM
Are you going at the pin?
Is there a safe miss from the green?

Don't be aggressive on the hole and accept that bogey is a good score (since you get a shot). You may get plenty of chances at par in the end.

Lucasto23
17th March 2013, 04:12 PM
Club up and hit a 3/4 shot

Daves
17th March 2013, 04:14 PM
Some reckon the best thing to happen on a hole like this is for someone to leave the flag out of the hole for you, so you just aim for the green.

simmsy
17th March 2013, 04:55 PM
There's no bailout anywhere on this hole, except short in front perhaps.
I'm never trying to go at the pin. I am trying to get onto the correct level of the green though.

Courty
17th March 2013, 05:11 PM
There's no bailout anywhere on this hole, except short in front perhaps.
I'm never trying to go at the pin. I am trying to get onto the correct level of the green though.

What's the size/ shape of the green? Can you get a pic from the tee?

simmsy
17th March 2013, 05:23 PM
2 pics from behind green mate. Couldn't find one from tee

simmsy
17th March 2013, 05:24 PM
And....

simmsy
17th March 2013, 05:34 PM
Aerial

matty
17th March 2013, 05:37 PM
If that hole messes with your head your likely leaving it short, or left or right in trouble. It's pretty rare you see people go long and there is your bail out area. It's huge. I'd always go the extra club, you don't have to bash it, and if you get an extra shot on the hole and are long it appears a relative easy chip or bump and run. And if you're long you're either on or past most trouble.

Have you tried the option of hitting it a bit longer?

Ferrins
17th March 2013, 05:43 PM
Similar to the 18th at Tasmania Golf club.

simmsy
17th March 2013, 05:44 PM
No I haven't matty, and u maybe right there.
Probably the thing stopping me doing that is often the pin is on the lower tier, from the back of the green it is a hairy downhill chip/putt as it is lightning fast down that tier.

But I get where you are going and it is something I will look at when I next play.

Ashes
17th March 2013, 05:45 PM
You should have closed the tab with your porn sites up before you took a screen shot!

Iain
17th March 2013, 05:48 PM
Don't be aggressive on the hole and accept that bogey is a good score (since you get a shot). You may get plenty of chances at par in the end.

This.

Golfnut
17th March 2013, 05:51 PM
Easy hole old man, GIR last Monday :D
Just swing harder.

Seriously, I have no solution as you can tell but I have the same issues with 17th par 3 at RF but I'm getting better at it only because I can play it differently. 9 at Gossies is one of those holes you can't really be long on, can't miss short left (bunker - tough u&d), trees right....but I'm sure you know all of this. I think it will be a case of hitting a dozen balls into it on a few practice rounds til you start feeling more comfortable with the what's in front of you....then hope it translates in comp because this will be the true voodoo breaker IMO.

Golfnut
17th March 2013, 05:53 PM
Club up and swing easier is good advice 'til you start feeling more comfortable to attack it....BTW I'm trying to taking my own advice too :roll:

Johnny Canuck
17th March 2013, 06:05 PM
Finish every practice round with a journey there and hit two balls. To me, it is the easiest of the 5 par 3s for some reason.

Don't start bunting shots on to it b

matty
17th March 2013, 06:07 PM
from the back of the green it is a hairy downhill chip/putt as it is lightning fast down that tier.

Fair enough. Hard to pick up contours from a photo.

Golfnut
17th March 2013, 06:13 PM
Finish every practice round with a journey there and hit two balls. To me, it is the easiest of the 5 par 3s for some reason. Don't start bunting shots on to it b Pretty decent variety between the 5 for mine....I really enjoy 7.

Johnny Canuck
17th March 2013, 06:29 PM
Pretty decent variety between the 5 for mine....I really enjoy 7.

7 is a nice hole.

mike
17th March 2013, 06:34 PM
11th @ Paradise Palms. In probably 15 rounds at PP I would have a total of 2 stableford points. Maybe 1. And that was a flukey putt.

LeftyHoges
17th March 2013, 06:56 PM
I have some of these but they tend to rotate every few months. 8 & 13 at home were shitting me for the last couple of months. Now it's 1 & 11. Before 8 & 13 it was 10 & 14. These just come and go for me and I'm sure it'll probably be the same for you if you can find a way to get it out of your head. Usually it only takes a par. Or two. Then you'll find another one to annoy you.

Golfnut
17th March 2013, 06:59 PM
Birdie holes can easily turn into head **** holes for me.
Great Expectations.

Courty
17th March 2013, 07:07 PM
11th @ Paradise Palms. In probably 15 rounds at PP I would have a total of 2 stableford points. Maybe 1. And that was a flukey putt.

Easy hole. Driver over the bunkers, 9 iron to 6 ft. Putt.

mike
17th March 2013, 07:32 PM
Easy hole. Driver over the bunkers, 9 iron to 6 ft. Putt.
I've tried two strategies;
1. Drive down the middle. Put second in the piss. Penalty drop. Choke and put next one in the piss. Pick ball up.
2. Drive down the middle. Chicken out and decide to lay up. Providing lay up isn't knifed into the piss either a) chunk pitch shot into the piss or b) blade pitch over the green into the piss. Walk to next tee leaving the ball where it is.

If there's a hole that messes with my head this is it.

Johnny Canuck
17th March 2013, 07:33 PM
Mine is 15 at Gossies. Finally hit the gir for the first time yesterday. 3 stabbed it.

mike
17th March 2013, 07:34 PM
Also 15th @ Mossman. That hole is possessed by the devil. I can't sleep for a week before playing Mossman.

Golfnut
17th March 2013, 07:42 PM
Mine is 15 at Gossies. Finally hit the gir for the first time yesterday. 3 stabbed it. What messes with you on that hole?( I know miss right is not much fun if you miss the bunker and end up under the tree.)16 gets me every time, should be a piss easy hole but i never seem to pick the right club off the tee

timah!
17th March 2013, 07:43 PM
11 at Gainsborough. Easiest hole on the course. Not if you watch me play it.

Ashes
17th March 2013, 08:12 PM
Mine is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, & 18 at Araluen.

1st @ The Vines Ellenbrook was an issue for me. Went half a dozen rounds without scoring (most of which I wiped without getting to the green). Tried everything and the only thing that worked was to forget about it and just play the appropriate shot with conviction. GIR and par last two times (2 shot hole for me too).

Ellenbrook 12th kills me now.

virge666
17th March 2013, 08:31 PM
2nd at Mona Vale. I have in the right bunker 7 out of the last 9 tries.

Does my frigging head in.

Johnny Canuck
17th March 2013, 08:50 PM
What messes with you on that hole?( I know miss right is not much fun if you miss the bunker and end up under the tree.)16 gets me every time, should be a piss easy hole but i never seem to pick the right club off the tee

The urge to pull every tee shot into the left trees is strong.

matty
17th March 2013, 08:54 PM
Mine is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, & 18 at Araluen.

1st @ The Vines Ellenbrook was an issue for me. Went half a dozen rounds without scoring (most of which I wiped without getting to the green). Tried everything and the only thing that worked was to forget about it and just play the appropriate shot with conviction. GIR and par last two times (2 shot hole for me too).

Ellenbrook 12th kills me now.

A least the 8th is sorted. Got to start somewhere.

muldude
17th March 2013, 08:59 PM
11th lake course at yarrawonga......stupid f'n green

Zeusgolf
18th March 2013, 12:55 AM
Mine is my Girlfriend.

I just cant work her out....one day she loves me then the next she doesn't.

Waddzy
18th March 2013, 07:40 AM
16th at my home track GCCC, im actually better off with a crappy tee shot here making me lay up on a par 4 before the water.. but end up hitting a wedge into the piss instead.. hit this green in 2 once and 5 jacked it as the pin was on the bottom tier and my first putt rolled off the green after it barely made the drop... Am yet to play this hole under a 7..

The 14th used to kill me also until the past 2 rounds , its a driveable par 4 but you need to hit a blind drive over trees as its a dogleg left... usually take the option of laying it up until 2 rounds ago Ive gone driver and hit the green once and was 10ft from the green the 2nd time resulting in 2 birdies... only pulled driver as my round was in tatters already.. seems to be the better option for me.. more club.

Hatchman
18th March 2013, 09:19 AM
Had one of these when I was playing at Balaklava.
The 17th is postcard signature hole.
291m par 4 90° dogleg right. It's dead flat tee shot 180m-200m to the corner to get a clear look at the green.
Tall gums line the RH side with a big pine tree on the corner of the dog leg. In a straight line to the green off the tee it is all sand hill with lots of tightly spaced native pines making flying there not an option.
The left side off the tee is tightly spaced medium size trees. Long through the corner there are a few trees also but your second is blocked out by the native pines that surround the green.
From the middle of the corner it's only about 90-100m to an elevated green surrounded by native pines left and right. One on the right overhangs the RH of the green a little.

I had no end of trouble making par on this hole and it wasn't isolated to just one problem. I did every thing imaginable to stuff it up.

During a purple patch one season I was 5 over for three rounds in a row and 6 over on this hole. Doubled it each time after hitting the tee shot to the corner.

In 6 years I don't think I ever got confident in being able to make an easy safe par on this hole. Too many good rounds turned into ok ones and ok ones turned in to go out .1 rounds.

Minor_Threat
18th March 2013, 09:52 AM
Only played it twice but the 5th at Barnbougle Dunes off the back tee has me stuffed. That humps off the tee really plays with your head.

Shadesy
18th March 2013, 11:09 AM
Just hit it to 6 feet like I did...


Fwiw I reckon you need an extra club on that hole. Club up!

simmsy
18th March 2013, 11:28 AM
Haha!
That's right, you did too. Great shot that was.

I put my tee shot into the piss that day.

Funny how we both walked off that green with bogey! ;)

Zeusgolf
20th March 2013, 06:26 PM
Haha!
That's right, you did too. Great shot that was.

I put my tee shot into the piss that day.

Funny how we both walked off that green with bogey! ;)

Its a horrible putt back down the hill if the pin is on the lower front teir and you end up on the top teir at the back.

Big loopy cut with extra club is what i have seen some of the low markers do like Aiden BAE.

markTHEblake
20th March 2013, 06:49 PM
If you stand on a tee on any given hole and think or say "this hole really screws me up mentally", what is the most likely thing too happen?

muldude
20th March 2013, 07:05 PM
If you stand on a tee on any given hole and think or say "this hole really screws me up mentally", what is the most likely thing too happen?

Poo your pants ?

Golfnut
20th March 2013, 08:50 PM
If you stand on a tee on any given hole and think or say "this hole really screws me up mentally", what is the most likely thing too happen? Fricken nail it?

Yossarian
20th March 2013, 09:07 PM
I am having issues with one hole.

Rubes has similar issues with the hole on the 'front 9'.

timah!
20th March 2013, 09:23 PM
If you stand on a tee on any given hole and think or say "this hole really screws me up mentally", what is the most likely thing too happen?

Nut it down the middle, walk up to it feeling confident and then miss the green. Awesome stuff.

Monsta
21st March 2013, 08:59 AM
Mine is the par 5 13th at Gungahlin Lakes, easy hole but my approach to the green (2nd or sometimes 3rd) always gets blocked right... always

Last saturday was having a blinder, 2 over after 12 (playing off 12 :razz:) and had an 8 on this hole.......... DAMN HOLE

Courty
21st March 2013, 12:55 PM
easy hole but my approach to the green always gets blocked right... always Stop shanking your shot before your approach. ;)

LeftyHoges
21st March 2013, 01:08 PM
Mine is the full weekend of 36 holes of any OZgolf champs. Days before and after I play like a champ, during I play like a chump...

Sad panda... :-(

markTHEblake
21st March 2013, 01:55 PM
Poo your pants ?Yes, that's exactly what happens as all these people are testifying, they talk themselves into the problem by saying it. Plus by revealing it here they are making it worse. The solution is easy. Stand on the tee and say out loud " this is my favourite hole, I love playing it, I always do well here"

Waddzy
21st March 2013, 01:57 PM
Yes, that's exactly what happens as all these people are testifying, they talk themselves into the problem by saying it. Plus by revealing it here they are making it worse. The solution is easy. Stand on the tee and say out loud " this is my favourite hole, I love playing it, I always do well here"

Marks golf lessons - $55 per 30 mins... haha

Its very true but , Played my most hated hole the best when Ive gone in confident and clubbed up accordingly.. now it literally is my favourite hole with birdies in my last few rounds... big turn around from doubles and triples

Marto65
21st March 2013, 02:00 PM
Another way is to try and picture yourself on the practice fairway ...

Courty
21st March 2013, 05:38 PM
Mine is the full weekend of 36 holes of any OZgolf champs. Days before and after I play like a champ, during I play like a chump...

Sad panda... :-(

Nothing to do with Friday night activities? ;)

LeftyHoges
21st March 2013, 05:53 PM
Nothing to do with Friday night activities? ;)

You're right, I don't exactly prepare myself in the best way.

That's it, next champs I'm not drinking. :mrgreen:

Courty
21st March 2013, 05:57 PM
That's it, next champs I'm not drinking. :mrgreen:

Yeah, cos that did wonders for me. :roll:

LeftyHoges
21st March 2013, 05:59 PM
Yeah, cos that did wonders for me. :roll:

Shouldn't that be does? It's not singular... :lol:

Courty
21st March 2013, 06:00 PM
Shouldn't that be does? It's not singular... :lol:

No one has ever won the VIC Champs/ Friday Drinking title double. ;)

LeftyHoges
21st March 2013, 06:06 PM
No one has ever won the VIC Champs/ Friday Drinking title double. ;)

My goal for 2014! Should get Marto to challenge... ;-)

Ferrins
9th September 2017, 07:51 PM
Last four rounds I'm 3 under for the hardest rated par 4,on the course and 8 over for the easiet par 5!

wazamac
11th September 2017, 09:40 AM
Why is it that you can't get a par when you don't get a shot on the hole, but when you get the shot back, it's an easy tap in par.

LeftyHoges
13th September 2017, 11:25 PM
Why is it that you can't get a par when you don't get a shot on the hole, but when you get the shot back, it's an easy tap in par.Without fail. Ridiculous.