Week commencing 25th February 2013

[matty]

1 over at Dunheved. 39 points. Never played there before. Decent track. Nice greens. Great value for money.
Drove shabby but was lucky to have shots out of trees. Rest of the game was great.
The humidity was a killer though.

[mrbluu]

1 over at Dunheved. 39 points. Never played there before. Decent track. Nice greens. Great value for money.
Drove shabby but was lucky to have shots out of trees. Rest of the game was great.
The humidity was a killer though.

Good work matty....off 4 I see!!

[matty]

Thanks mate. It'll get me there.

[Clevo89]

Played the cut today, awsome course but bloody hard. Managed to shoot 97

[Nuffie]

1 over at Dunheved. 39 points. Never played there before. Decent track. Nice greens. Great value for money. Drove shabby but was lucky to have shots out of trees. Rest of the game was great. The humidity was a killer though.That's a good round Matty. I really miss playing there and have had some low 70s scores there. Played pennant rounds there as a junior and it was always in good condition. So much run and good greens. The par 5s were good holes.

[Looney]

I had 26 points and left very pissed off with myself
Drove it well hitting 11 fairways but missed 11 greens and putted like a fool.
Dropped back to 4.5
Can't wait for the rain to stop as I need to hit some balls and spend some time on the short game to get the weekend crap out if my head.

[matty]

That's a good round Matty. I really miss playing there and have had some low 70s scores there. Played pennant rounds there as a junior and it was always in good condition. So much run and good greens. The par 5s were good holes.

Thanks Nuff. The par 5's were there for the taking. Got caught out on one where I didn't know there was a creek crossing and drove into it. Doesn't matter now anyway. Was just rung by my mate who told me he forgot to hand the friggin cards in :shock: I left quickly to pick the kids up as he was yelling at his (since a week) ex mrs and supposedly on his way to hand the cards in.

Bloody women.

[mrbluu]

Thanks Nuff. The par 5's were there for the taking. Got caught out on one where I didn't know there was a creek crossing and drove into it. Doesn't matter now anyway. Was just rung by my mate who told me he forgot to hand the friggin cards in :shock: I left quickly to pick the kids up as he was yelling at his (since a week) ex mrs and supposedly on his way to hand the cards in.

Bloody women.

Sure mate, are you just trying to pad your handicap so you can take our cash at SCR in a couple of weeks.....

[JADO75]

I can't believe you rated the greens at Duneved Matty. Mack, myself & two mates played there yesterday & thought they were horrendously slow & bouncy. Two of the boys are ex members & couldn't get over how crap the greens are. The fairways looked & played great but the four of us won't be rushing back any time soon. Well played by the way.

[matty]

Sure mate, are you just trying to pad your handicap so you can take our cash at SCR in a couple of weeks.....

Hardly! But I'll have a side bet with you for the back 9 scores. ;)

[mrbluu]

Do you mean just the 18th?

[matty]

I can't believe you rated the greens at Duneved Matty. Mack, myself & two mates played there yesterday & thought they were horrendously slow & bouncy. Two of the boys are ex members & couldn't get over how crap the greens are. The fairways looked & played great but the four of us won't be rushing back any time soon. Well played by the way.

Thanks. That's weird. Found them to be true and certainly not slow. Might have dried out a touch? They were a bit bumpy but maybe I'm easier pleased.
Bunkers were absolute crap.

[oncewasagolfer]

Played stableford at maryborough this morning had 40pts. I made a silly bogey on the first from just off the green then birdied the next 2 holes made a few mistakes but hit the ball pretty good and putted well. Lipped out on birdie putts on 11 & 13 then made a 25 footer on 15 for birdie. Double bogey on 17 was a bit disappointing after trying to hit a hard 5 iron into the wind from 185 and hooking in the trees but made a good up and down on the last for par. Handicap down to 6.1.
stats (http://golfshot.com/Rounds/Detail/56-15043666-15043735)

[BenM]

Good work OWAG - you've been hitting it alright lately. Couple of shots in a couple of weeks :)

[oncewasagolfer]

Thanks Ben just checked and I won A grade. I'm putting it down to playing those awesome courses on the penninsula with you guys.

[Pieface]

Well done OWAG!

Stewards enquiry pending matty ;)

[oncewasagolfer]

Thanks pieface:)

[muldude]

Thanks Ben just checked and I won A grade. I'm putting it down to playing those awesome courses on the penninsula with you guys.

Good stuff mate, cracking round :-)

[oncewasagolfer]

Thanks mate still a long way off hitting it like you though.

[muldude]

Thanks mate still a long way off hitting it like you though.

You go alright rob......I had a miss spent childhood ;-)

[BenM]

Public holiday today (hoorah for local horse races) so went out and had a bash in the comp.

Promised myself I wouldn't spit the dummy no matter how bad I played, and would just enjoy myself. Kept to my promise and managed to scrape together 30 points. It was certainly nice to walk off the course feeling relaxed and not disappointed, so I am going to have to do it more often.

Here are the stats (http://golfshot.com/Rounds/Detail/57-15048518-15048588) - ball striking is actually pretty good (though I hit a few horrible drives) but my biggest problem is I've still got a bad case of cannotgetupanddownitis, and keep making soft bogeys and doubles from the fairway. But at least my putting was solid today, made a couple of long birdie putts and had a couple of pretty unlucky lipouts on the front 9 too.

[JADO75]

Firstly I'd like to say that I am unfortunately one those people that only talks about their good rounds, its a character flaw but I'm at least I'm honest. With that out of the way, I shot even par today for only the 2nd time ever at my home course Penrith. It was the first time I have used my 712 AP2's & couldn't be happier, got done by 1 point in A grade ( lipped my putts on 15, 17 & 18, Doh!) but won 2ball scratch.

[Dangals]

Firstly I'd like to say that I am unfortunately one those people that only talks about their good rounds, its a character flaw but I'm at least I'm honest. With that out of the way, I shot even par today for only the 2nd time ever at my home course Penrith. It was the first time I have used my 712 AP2's & couldn't be happier, got done by 1 point in A grade ( lipped my putts on 15, 17 & 18, Doh!) but won 2ball scratch. Congrats on the good round mate - bigger question is what driver did you use?

[AndyP]

Great score, matty. I'm jealous of the 1 over.

Well done, OWAG. It looks like I missed seeing the golfer in you on the Sunday.

[oncewasagolfer]

Great score, matty. I'm jealous of the 1 over.Well done, OWAG. It looks like I missed seeing the golfer in you on the Sunday. Thanks Andy in hindsight I may have hit too many drivers off the tee that day will play moonah differently next time.Nice playing jado!

[JADO75]

Congrats on the good round mate - bigger question is what driver did you use?

Cheers bud, 8.5 Xtreme with 6m3 X stiff

[JADO75]

Thanks Once, appreciate it

[idgolfguy]

I hate golf.

Had double on the 5th to be 1 over end of 6. Took 6 to get out of bunker to make 8 on the 7th par 3. 3 putt the 8th and finish the 9 at 7 over.

Started back with double and triple, 4 bogies. Only 3 pars which should have been birdies.

Finished with net 72 with 8 pars and 1 birdie.

[simmsy]

Hate to focus on the bad idg but how does one have 6 shots in a bunker?

[Golfnut]

Not sure he wants to relive that again simmsy. I wouldn't.

[Choppa1]

Played Long Reef on Wednesday 27/2 for -2 in a par event. A bit blowy, but not too bad. A demo driver (R1) that went straight back to the shop, and a couple of silly mistakes otherwise hit it pretty good. Stats - 64.3% of fairways, 44.4% GIR, 40% up & down, 31 putts.

[idgolfguy]

Hate to focus on the bad idg but how does one have 6 shots in a bunker?

I was 5m from the pin and tried to finesse my way out. The hands got in the way and the ball kept rolling back into the divot.

[bergsey]

Cripes idg! I thought I played pretty well this week too but amazing how a few holes can ruin a round

[idgolfguy]

I've had 4-7 doubles per round for the last .10 round to date.

[Monsta]

I had 32 points yesterday in the rain here in Canberra, a big improvement over the weekends efforts, but still not good.....

(good enought to beat Spud tho......) :mrgreen:

[muldude]

I had 32 points yesterday in the rain here in Canberra, a big improvement over the weekends efforts, but still not good.....

(good enought to beat Spud tho......) :mrgreen:

ppfftt not hard to beat that Spud :-)

you boys shoulda stopped by.........the track looks great atm

[hocko]

+2 in yet another Par round.
9 fairways
12 greens
33 putts
76 off the bat.

[Nuffie]

+2 in yet another Par round.9 fairways12 greens33 putts76 off the bat.Another good round in the 70s. They seem to like their par rounds at Freo. Last time I played there it was also a par event.

[hocko]

Another good round in the 70s. They seem to like their par rounds at Freo. Last time I played there it was also a par event.

And you had a HIO you cheeky little bugger ;)

[Nuffie]

Yep my first and only one so far. You could slam dunk 17th with about 4 clubs less ;)

[BenM]

Wha? Where's the celebratory thread? Congrats Nuffie!

[Nuffie]

Wha? Where's the celebratory thread? Congrats Nuffie!It happened years ago BenM.

[hocko]

It came with a shit bottle of red wine too.

[Nuffie]

It came with a shit bottle of red wine too.Yep, would have killed a brown dog.

[Nuffie]

My friend for his recent ace at the vines, they put that he got it on the 8th. Wrong hole :)

[Nuffie]

My friend for his recent ace at the vines, they put on his trophy that he got it on the 8th. Wrong par 3 :) haha... Thought I'd post that twice coz I couldn't believe that...

[Golfnut]

+2 in yet another Par round.9 fairways12 greens33 putts76 off the bat. Nice work mate. Did you end up with a bird on 8?

[Nuffie]

With a tail wind, one of the hardest greens to hold round there.

[hocko]

Nice work mate. Did you end up with a bird on 8?

No, missed the putt. Did the NTP hold?

[Golfnut]

Yep and a ball in the sweep too, noice.....funny that cause when I got the NTP on 8, I also got a ball in the sweep a few weeks back.

[Golfnut]

Would've played today if I'd have known....


EDIT. Scrap that, it was a pm tee off....my bad

[simmsy]

Good rd Hocko.
Some nice rds getting put together by yourself of late.

[TourFit]

Gettin' the number of putts down helps, I guess!!!

Well done hocko. 'Cap movement?

[matty]

Firstly I'd like to say that I am unfortunately one those people that only talks about their good rounds, its a character flaw but I'm at least I'm honest. With that out of the way, I shot even par today for only the 2nd time ever at my home course Penrith. It was the first time I have used my 712 AP2's & couldn't be happier, got done by 1 point in A grade ( lipped my putts on 15, 17 & 18, Doh!) but won 2ball scratch.

Awesome going Jado. Congrats. You ever broke par yet?

[JADO75]

Thanks Matty, haven't shot under yet. I lipped a birdie putt on the 18th to go to -1, tap in par for evens

[Hatchman]

Firstly I'd like to say that I am unfortunately one those people that only talks about their good rounds, its a character flaw but I'm at least I'm honest. With that out of the way, I shot even par today for only the 2nd time ever at my home course Penrith. It was the first time I have used my 712 AP2's & couldn't be happier, got done by 1 point in A grade ( lipped my putts on 15, 17 & 18, Doh!) but won 2ball scratch.

Good round JADO. So close to with the lip outs to break through the even par barrier.

[hocko]

Gettin' the number of putts down helps, I guess!!!

Well done hocko. 'Cap movement?

More movement after three decent rounds

[Johnny Canuck]

More movement after three decent rounds

Thought up would struggle with that at your age.

[qbnchopper]

Good to meet Simmsy and Hocko at RF this afternoon .... hope the boys played well !

[hocko]

Thought up would struggle with that at your age.

I have 6 kids, no trouble!

[Golfnut]

Good to meet Simmsy and Hocko at RF this afternoon .... hope the boys played well ! Bugger, missed you qbn...minister for war was on the job so had to take off after the round.

[simmsy]

What did you end scoring nut?
What about your thieving brother?
You better not bring him to the WA champs.

I had 83 with 3 doubles.

[Golfnut]

29pts with 3 wipes....need to get those lose shots under control, still can't believe I lost that ball on 9.

[mrbluu]

80/76 @ Cabra today in the monthly medal. Ok round, nothing special...felt a bit rusty as I haven't touch a club all week.

Stats:
2 x Birdies
7 x Pars
6 x Bogies
3 x Doubles
0 x 3 Putts
7/18 Greens
31 Putts
4/13 FW


Definitely need some practice before next weeks round.

[BenM]

82/76 in the monthly medal today. Realistically, I deserved a better score than that, I was 1 under after 6... and struck the ball well all day, especially off the tee. Only hit a couple of bad shots and a few stupid putts, they all cost me dearly... went 11 over for the last 12 holes :(

At least my scores are going in the right direction though... Stats here. (http://golfshot.com/Rounds/Detail/60-15071374-15071447)

[oncewasagolfer]

Monthly medal hobbled around the course with blisters from new golf shoes. Started good just missing birdies on the first 2 holes then got on a bit of a bogey run before making 9 on the par 5 12th. Not sure if I will wear the golf shoes for my next round on Tuesday.

stats (http://golfshot.com/Rounds/Detail/60-15071903-15071976)

[Golfnut]

How are you guys using golfshot in comp? is there a version for scoring/stats only?

[oncewasagolfer]

I don't use it on the course fill it out when I get home.

[oncewasagolfer]

Forgot to put down my score:( 83/77

[BenM]

How are you guys using golfshot in comp? is there a version for scoring/stats only?

There is, yes.

But I have the GPS version - can't see how it's against the rules to put a score in so long as I don't use the GPS part. I generally put the score in on the green, or between the green and the next tee, so even if I do see a distance it can't be argued I've used it.

[WBennett]

It was howling today with a strong easterley at GLGC. 39 for the front, get to the 13th tee 5 over. Took a ten. And it was ugly. Net 76 for the round. Missed A grade by 3 shots.

13th tee - waited 15 minutes on the tee. Had the shits, carved one right into the piss, pitch out, top it into the piss, knock it short, chip, 3 putt 10. FFFFFF................ The useless ****s in the group in front were 1 FULL HOUR behind Monsta's group. And yet the Committee Member I played with thought it acceptable. ****! Got a ball and NTP so not a bad day though.

Monsta won B grade with a net 69. Not bad after 17 points last week.

[Hatchman]

Medal Round Kapunda 2/3 Par 73 ACR 72

Had a day to forget with the wedges and putter.
My normal bread and butter was mouldy bread and lard not butter.
Couldn't get a stroke going on the greens, missing left and right. As soon I hit the putts I knew they were going to miss.

Stats
84-80
Effective Drives 60%
Ineffective Drives 40%
GIR 4
Putts 31
1 birdie, 1 double and 1 three stab

[virge666]

Has anyone got a golf course that isn't underwater ?

[Ronny]

Negative in Brisbane virge! Got through 15 before it was cancelled. Was on track for a half decent score!

[ddasey]

Has anyone got a golf course that isn't underwater ?

Nope :cry:

Isn't going to change anytime soon either....

[Dotty]

Has anyone got a golf course that isn't underwater ?
Yes.

But we don't get any views of yachts and locals in bikini tops.

[mike]

Played my second lot of nine holes since boxing day today. 3 birdies in 9 holes for a par round. I think I may have conquered this game.

[hocko]

Struck the ball really nicely today to end up nett 79. Undeserved in my opinion. Dropped 7 shots in the last 4 holes.

[Webster]

Best get all the bad ones out of the way before October Hocko, when I kick your skinny little ass all over some goat track in WA.

[hocko]

In all seriousness Jack, I can only recall hitting 3 or 4 bad shots. I lipped 9 putts. But, that's golf. BTW you have no chance of beating me!

[Nuffie]

Struck the ball really nicely today to end up nett 79. Undeserved in my opinion. Dropped 7 shots in the last 4 holes.Very similar outcome to my day. 37 front, 43 back at Vines for an 80 (33 pts).Sounds like you struck it well and were unlucky at RFGC around the hole. I was going well with birds on 1 and 9, but got carried away the back, thinking about the desired end result after a solid front 9. A very dumb thing to do...Things have improved the last 2 months from thinking better thoughts more often and trusting the game at all times. But today was evidence that it's so easy to stumble off course when you start expecting too much. There is all the time in the world to think stupidly once the round is over. During rounds, the next challenge is to remain 100% committed to every shot, every round and no matter what, until the last putt is made on 18.

[idgolfguy]

37 points.
Did not hit one fairway and five 3 putts.

Just can't seem to get better than 14 HC!

[bergsey]

That's crazy idg, the iron play and recovery shots must have been decent then...

Just looking at some of those golf score prediction stats, on average you need to hit 5 GIR to shoot 85. How did yours stack up?

[idgolfguy]

2 birdies and 3 pars. 10 GIRs. Yipped 5 putts between 1-3 feet.
Last 4 rounds, 29 pars and 2 eagles and 6 birdies.

[Johnny Canuck]

What holes did you eagle?

[idgolfguy]

Lakes 8 and 18.
Still waiting for my for my HIO.

[oz]

First round after a 7-8 week layoff. Stroke round from the plates..... 2 Doubles, and 2 triples, plus a few bogies, and I signed for an 85 (+13). Drove it poorly, but my short game was surprisingly good.

[Monsta]

Monthly medal yesterday
44/39
83 gross
69 nett

Won B grade medal, 3 putts on the last cost me the overall medal win :cry:

[Johnny Canuck]

Lakes 8 and 18.
Still waiting for my for my HIO.

Good eagles. Home in 2 or holed out?

Wait a sec, 8 is a par 4, isn't it?

[muldude]

Played Monthly medal yesterday, was 1 over after 12, walked off 9 over. I finally cracked it on the 13th tee with the f'n slow play. 5hours 25 min is just ridiculous. Normal rounds take under 4 hours but stroke is just too much for our Older guys.

[idgolfguy]

Good eagles. Home in 2 or holed out?

Wait a sec, 8 is a par 4, isn't it?

8 was a hole out from 70m. 18 was 15 feet for 3.

[Johnny Canuck]

Nice work.

[Nuffie]

How you finding Gossies JC?

[idgolfguy]

I may have sorted my putting this morning. Playing with my usual two ball, he noticed that on the short putts I tended to track the ball as I hit it. Form of the yips as it doesn't appear on the putts that are around 7 feet plus.

Made two birdies on the back 9 of Ellenbrook. Par 3, 13th was 233m at the very back, I used the Tourfit 3W I got off Ben. Has a VForce X in it. Pin high right 8 feet for birdie. I flew a pitched past middle which was about 225.

Nice metal head. I think I'll ask him for a softer shaft as I couldn't get the same performance on the ground. I like the head as it reminds me of the V-Steel in some ways.

Now to work on the driver.

[Johnny Canuck]

How you finding Gossies JC? Great until I decided to start hitting fades all day yesterday. When you continually aim right of the pin for a baby draw and slice your approach, you end up in some bad spots.

[simmsy]

Some damn good golf in there idg.
Just maintain that good form and the 14hc for the NC and you'll bitch slap some poor eastie all over the place.

[idgolfguy]

If you look at my golflink scores, I'm a solid 14HC I know my place and am content these days. Don't even look at other clubs.

[Golfnut]

If you look at my golflink scores, I'm a solid 14HC I know my place and am content these days. Don't even look at other clubs. Unlike me, I feel like the most inconsistent 14capper on earth....I feel like an imposter at times. There's no way I could be compared to Vic yet we have the same cap, go figure.

[Yossarian]

Since I've been gone.

Few good rounds, down to 15.3 now.

[idgolfguy]

Since I've been gone.

Few good rounds, down to 15.3 now.
Great stuff!

[LeftyHoges]

79 yesterday in 45 km winds to qualify 4th for the club champs. Hit it well but got punished on a few holes with 3 doubles from nowhere.

Quarter finals this morning, was 4 over through 6 and really struggling. Again, gave myself a good talking to and went two under through the next 9 to win 5&3.

Semis this arvo, up against the top qualifier. Was two over through 4, and needed a bit of talking to again. Went 1 under through the next 13 to win 2&1.

Final in a fortnights time. VERY nervous. :-(

[LeftyHoges]

Since I've been gone.

Few good rounds, down to 15.3 now.

He's back!

Are we holding you back from your true potential Yoss?

[AndyP]

Final in a fortnights time. VERY nervous. :-(Why? You're a big game performer.

[idgolfguy]

Unlike me, I feel like the most inconsistent 14capper on earth....I feel like an imposter at times. There's no way I could be compared to Vic yet we have the same cap, go figure.
J, you just need to play with some lower cappers on a regular basis and set some target scores based around you current handicap.

Unfortunately, I am too much of a tinkerer. I seem to enjoy that more than being consistent. I will hopefully get better but I won't hold my breath.

[Yossarian]

Great stuff!

Cheers.


He's back!

Are we holding you back from your true potential Yoss?

It would appear so. When I win B Grade I will thank the mods.

[BenM]

Great work Lefty.

Think you're nervous now... Wait til you're on the first tee :D I was shitting bricks in my final last year.

You'll do fine though.

[LeftyHoges]

Why? You're a big game performer.

Love that dry sense of humour. That is up there with the funniest things you've ever said on here.


Great work Lefty.

Think you're nervous now... Wait til you're on the first tee :D I was shitting bricks in my final last year.

You'll do fine though.

I nearly vomited on the six foot putt I had to win on 16. The first tee could be in trouble...

[Golfnut]

Bring plenty of those bum wipes lefty ;)

[Johnny Canuck]

If you look at my golflink scores, I'm a solid 14HC I know my place and am content these days. Don't even look at other clubs. You need to take a little more time on the greens, in particular on your second putts.

[Johnny Canuck]

Great job Hoges.I followed up my runner up effort in the Kennedy Bay Classic with a big 22 points. I knew there would be a bit of a letdown, but 22 in great conditions is ridiculous.

[LeftyHoges]

Bring plenty of those bum wipes lefty ;)

Best advice ever. :lol:


Great job Hoges.

Cheers JC! When does WA play most of their club champs? Or are they fairly scattered?

[Johnny Canuck]

After pennants, August-Sept ish, I believe.

[popper81]

Great work Lefty.

Think you're nervous now... Wait til you're on the first tee :D I was shitting bricks playing popper last month.

You'll do fine though.

FTFY.

[LeftyHoges]

After pennants, August-Sept ish, I believe.

Cool, fair enough too. Just wasn't sure when would be best for you guys weather-wise...

[Lucasto23]

Great work lefty

[Monsta]

Well done Capt Lefty,

Just make sure that you get a good nights sleep the night before, find the most comfy tiles that you can......

[Courty]

Well done, Lefty. Obviously I played you into Matchplay form a few Fridays ago. ;)

[LeftyHoges]

Great work lefty

Cheers Lucas!


Well done Capt Lefty,

Just make sure that you get a good nights sleep the night before, find the most comfy tiles that you can......

I might even double tile that night. Just for extra comfort.


Well done, Lefty. Obviously I played you into Matchplay form a few Fridays ago. ;)

Was a good warm up mate, came in handy. Even played the same way yesterday, start off like a spud (see what I did there??? :lol: ) and come home with a wet sail.

[Johnny Canuck]

Cool, fair enough too. Just wasn't sure when would be best for you guys weather-wise...

We get pennant during the rainiest part of the year.

[hocko]

It's a winter sport...... aparently.

[Jeffo1123]

Well, it's gonna be a shock to the system going to work tomorrow and not playing golf at kwinana...

Played Saturday off 15 for 38 points. Including a run of horrible 1 pointers on 7, 8 and 9.

Played Sunday off 14 for 37 points. With 2 drives that went barely 50m on 9 and 10. Also had a duffed chip that went 1 foot on the last so should have had an extra 3 points from those.

Played today off 13 for 32 points. Had some good putts that just wouldn't drop and had some absolutely horrible putts including a 4 putt on 7 for a point. Also had two wipes.

Really enjoying golf down to a low of 13.3 now after starting the weekend at 14.7. I feel like single figures is almost a realistic target in the near future now but just need to keep the consistency going and a couple of rounds where it all comes together.

[simmsy]

Great work there Jeffo.
That 4jack could be attributed to your broken nose from the other week.

Maybe you need some breathing exercises.

Nicely done all the same though.

[idgolfguy]

Nice downwards pressure,Jeffo.

[Jeffo1123]

Great work there Jeffo. That 4jack could be attributed to your broken nose from the other week. Maybe you need some breathing exercises. Nicely done all the same though. If that's a good enough excuse for the 4 jack, I'll take it... But unfortunately I'm breathing fine!

[Golfnut]

Great weekend of golf Jeffo, KTown is definitely no push over so well done.

[Nuffie]

Great until I decided to start hitting fades all day yesterday. When you continually aim right of the pin for a baby draw and slice your approach, you end up in some bad spots.Im still working on a 'control fade' when the wind is blowing in or across from the right - just like KB when you towled me at the end in the semi MP. Yes it works when it is hit properly but if you don't aim at the left edge and have confidence in the fade spin coming off, things can backfire if the shape doesn't evolve. I like how it carries further and stops quickly. It's the go-to shot with an extra club, that still needs some work.