Jacks 10 club challenge for 2013

[Webster]

Since I started carrying my bag again I've been mucking around with less than the usual 14 clubs, often 10 or 11, without any noticeable difference in my play or scores. So this year I'm going to stick with just the 10 clubs.

Current set up is:
Driver
18* 5 wood
24* hybrid
6-PW
56*
putter

[idgolfguy]

Have thought the same thing - however, will experiment with changing the lofts. Could be interesting combination with loft and shaft length combinations to modify the height and distance control.

[Ferrins]

I have the 10/10 bag at Tenterfield which is the same set up as yours except I carry a four wood and a 23 degree hybrid and I need 10 more shots than you.

[Captain Nemo]

Wow, good for you.....

[virge666]

Since I started carrying my bag again I've been mucking around with less than the usual 14 clubs, often 10 or 11, without any noticeable difference in my play or scores. So this year I'm going to stick with just the 10 clubs.

Current set up is:
Driver
18* 5 wood
24* hybrid
6-PW
56*
putter

Getting old mate...

[Webster]

But getting better

[Webster]

I have the irons set up on 5 degree gaps, working back from a 50 degree wedge. It's all the clubs I need.

[mrbluu]

Since I started carrying my bag again I've been mucking around with less than the usual 14 clubs, often 10 or 11, without any noticeable difference in my play or scores. So this year I'm going to stick with just the 10 clubs.

Current set up is:
Driver
18* 5 wood
24* hybrid
6-PW
56*
putter

I wish we can carry 15 clubs so I can add the 20* hybrid as well!!!

[Ashes]

I have the irons set up on 5 degree gaps, working back from a 50 degree wedge. It's all the clubs I need.

What distance gaps does that give you for your irons Jack?

[Pieface]

Very similar bag setup to mine Jack. If only I could play golf similarly to you too!

I have an extra hybrid at 26* and a 60* wedge but one I very rarely use and the other I shouldn't use :lol:

[Webster]

What distance gaps does that give you for your irons Jack?

Depends how I hit them. Prob 10-15m.

[Johnny Canuck]

Since I started carrying my bag again I've been mucking around with less than the usual 14 clubs, often 10 or 11, without any noticeable difference in my play or scores. So this year I'm going to stick with just the 10 clubs. Current set up is:Driver18* 5 wood24* hybrid6-PW56*putter I play practice rounds carrying my sticks with even less than this. You are correct too, I don't really notice a change in my scoring.

[Webster]

JC, I only had 12 in the bag at the Ozgolf WA champs (plus the persimmon I didnt use). The more you have, the more they misbehave!

[Ashes]

One of my best rounds last year (scoring and striking wise) was at Binningup carrying just a 4i, 7i and putter with no bag.

[Peter]

Jack,

Is there a distance where you have to manufacture a shot? I'm guessing there's a fair gap between a full 6i and full hybrid?

[Webster]

Not really, I can hit my 6 iron about 160-165, the hybrid goes maybe 170-180, bit further downwind. From that distance I'm just trying to get it on the green. I can hit a cut with the hybrid to make it go a bit shorter.

I'm less focussed on trying to hit to the yardage, and more focussed on hitting the shot that will give the best result. A lightly different approach to the regular numbers game.

[markTHEblake]

Why worry about taking 4 clubs out, that's not even 2kg. You could save carrying about 20kg if you did some sit-ups.

[Jarro]

Why worry about taking 4 clubs out, that's not even 2kg. You could save carrying about 20kg if you did some sit-ups.

:lol:

[petethepilot]

Have you tried the Eye-O-Matic yet Jack? I will send you a Royal Maxfli Balata when I get my act together!

Pete

[Webster]

Not yet Pete. Working through a couple of others first.

[Moe Norman]

Why worry about taking 4 clubs out, that's not even 2kg. You could save carrying about 20kg if you did some sit-ups.

he'd have to find something else to brag about then.

(perhaps his new waistline?)

[IanO]

I play with a 60 year old guy who played for a whole year with only a 3 wood. He used it for everything. He was a scratch handicap and has blown out to 3.

[Yossarian]

10 clubs 39 points, currently leading.

Driver
4 Iron- Only cause I need something to punch out with
5-9
52 and 58* wedges
Puttah.

You are my inspiration Jack.

[Johnny Canuck]

10 clubs 39 points, currently leading. Driver4 Iron- Only cause I need something to punch out with 5-952 and 58* wedgesPuttah. You are my inspiration Jack. Nuffie?

[Yossarian]

I'm not sure I would fit in Jack's shadow as well as the nuffster.

[Webster]

Theres room for both of you WA lads. Well played Yoss.

36 points, 1 over par today with the 10 club set.

[Foburger]

I think the real challenge is leaving irons out down the set.

Sometimes when I practise, just for fun I'll go:

Either 3 Wood or Driver
Either 5 wood or 2 Iron
Either 4,6,8,48,60 or 5,7,9,54,60
Putter

Get creative with working your irons. Love the idea though mate!

[Jarro]

Whose hero ?

[jaybam]

Reports in from Port Fairy today are a posting of 40 points with a 69 off the beater.Even though his mind was all over place with the Friday night banning on his mind our hero got the job done. You got his new banner ready yet? Is he joining me on 45 or the first member of 28?

[backintheswing]

I miss all the action.

[rubin]

I miss all the action.

I do too. What he go for this time?

[Shadesy]

I do too. What he go for this time?

Stating Gippsland was a hole.

Apparently it's ok to ask another forum member to drink your piss, or try and sell free stuff you receive on Gumtree however.

[rubin]

Ahhh so poor timing really.

So does that mean jack will be club 14 president - having 2 stints?

[KristianJ]

Stating Gippsland was a hole.

Apparently it's ok to ask another forum member to drink your piss, or try and sell free stuff you receive on Gumtree however.

Or okay to set a lynch mob up and berate people as one pleases.

Drop it.

[jaybam]

Stating Gippsland was a hole.Apparently it's ok to ask another forum member to drink your piss, or try and sell free stuff you receive on Gumtree however. That's about 1/10th of what happened. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. Never has before.

[markTHEblake]

I have got about a million relatives in Gippsland, does that help?

[Shadesy]

I can get to 11 clubs I reckon, which iron to drop is the kicker. Thinking 9.

[Johnny Canuck]

I can get to 11 clubs I reckon, which iron to drop is the kicker. Thinking 9. I have back flipped on this. I need 15 for tomorrow!

[Ashes]

I can get to 11 clubs I reckon, which iron to drop is the kicker. Thinking 9.

Its weird, I reckon I'd only use my 9 iron once every 4 or 5 rounds. My least used club by far.

[idgolfguy]

I make it s point to use all my clubs every round...perhaps that is where I go wrong.

[Peter]

I do too. What he go for this time?
Unless I missed some of it - a response to Moe's photo from his parents place in Gippsland that it was their own fault for living in that hole, followed by a bunch of people taking offence (strangely enough, I don't think Moe was one of them). Pretty typical poor taste stuff, followed by the standard overreaction from people who seem to go out of their way to take offence at things posted on the internet.


Whose hero ?
I assume that Jack would be the perfect role model for a guy that likes hardcore pornography and ogling half naked 16 year old girls?

[Daves]

Pretty sure Jack's intentionally got himself banned. He was working it pretty hard in the lead up. He was probably surprised it took him so long.

[Peter]

Not sure he was trying to get banned, but he was certainly fishing. Got plenty of bites too.

[TheNuclearOne]

Pretty sure Jack's intentionally got himself banned. He was working it pretty hard in the lead up. He was probably surprised it took him so long.

I totally agree. Normally Jack remains cool as a cucumber while others bite down harder than an alpha wolf. Either he wanted a ban or was extremely wild about something.

Wonder when he's back.

[sms316]

I heard he made a bet with golfer69 that jarro wouldn't have the balls to ban him.

[Iain]

Reports in from Port Fairy today are a posting of 40 points with a 69 off the beater.Even though his mind was all over place with the Friday night banning on his mind our hero got the job done. Does it count if he's banned at the time?

[WBennett]

If Jack is banned it can't count. Same technicality as a hole in one in a comp.

Can he still make a cameo at the Vic champs?

[Yossarian]

9 clubs today and went one better than last week.

Driver
21* Hybrid
5-9 Iron
52 and 58
Puttah.

[Ashes]

9 clubs today and went one better than last week. Driver21* Hybrid5-9 Iron52 and 58 Puttah. Ditch the putter

[PerryGroves]

9 clubs today and went one better than last week.

Driver
21* Hybrid
5-9 Iron
52 and 58
Puttah.

Sure you didn't have 11 last week, I count 10 here.

[Yossarian]

Sorry 6 to 9 iron this week. My bad.

[PerryGroves]

Sorry 6 to 9 iron this week. My bad.

Don't worry, the lack of attention to detail won't be noticed in a legal firm.

[Yossarian]

:oops:

[Johnny Canuck]

9 clubs today and went one better than last week. Driver21* Hybrid5-9 Iron52 and 58 Puttah.Didn't you have 39 last week as well?Take any dumb penalties?

[Yossarian]

I played off 19 last week. 18 this week. One better.

[Johnny Canuck]

You would have been two better if you didn't punch your ball.

[Ashes]

You would have been two better if you didn't punch your ball.

Was it just his ball that he punched?

[Johnny Canuck]

Unfortunately, yes.

[sms316]

The 10 club theory might have some merit. Jack won the 27 hole open tournament at Port Fairy today with 1 over par.

[LeftyHoges]

The 10 club theory might have some merit. Jack won the 27 hole open tournament at Port Fairy today with 1 over par.

Shit, forgot that was on. Was gonna play in that.

Sounds like it would have been a futile effort anyway. Wouldn't have been easy today in PF. Bit of heat and a fairly constant 25 km/h breeze which doesn't sound like much but there's nowhere to hide on that course, that breeze is at you ALL DAY.

Great shooting Jack.

[simmsy]

I heard Hocko will be adopting the 10 club policy bit by bit next Sunday.

[Johnny Canuck]

I heard Hocko will be adopting the 10 club policy bit by bit next Sunday.

Awesome.

Razaar shoots his age, Hocko putts his.

[Webster]

Still on the 10 club bandwagon and it's working out great (1 under 71 in a howling gale today). New bag set up is:

Razr Fit 8.5 driver
TM200 15* 3 wood
Mizuno 24* Fli-Hi
PING Eye2+ 6-pw
PING Tour 56*
Sportsman Wizard 600 putter.

[BenM]

Just goes to show - it's not what's in your bag, it's how you use 'em. Good work J.

[markTHEblake]

How can you be sure you wouldn't have had 2 under if you had 14 clubs?

[Webster]

How can you be sure you wouldn't have had 2 under if you had 14 clubs?

Because I'm cleverer than you.

[simmsy]

Nice work Jack.

[Ashes]

Not really, I can hit my 6 iron about 160-165, the hybrid goes maybe 170-180, bit further downwind. From that distance I'm just trying to get it on the green. I can hit a cut with the hybrid to make it go a bit shorter.

I'm less focussed on trying to hit to the yardage, and more focussed on hitting the shot that will give the best result. A lightly different approach to the regular numbers game.

How far do you hit your 3 wood? Just curious if you have a reasonable gap between hybrid and fairway and how you manage that.

[Webster]

How far do you hit your 3 wood? Just curious if you have a reasonable gap between hybrid and fairway and how you manage that.

Anywhere from about 190 to 230?

[Ashes]

Anywhere from about 190 to 230?

Just trying to understand your course management. I take it you just adjust how much you put on the 3 wood if you're left with an approach in that range?

[Webster]

Sort of. My 3 wood is very reliable so I have great confidence in being able to hit it where I want it to go. Since I switched the 5 wood for the 3, I haven't really had a time when I wished I had it back.

One thing this exercise has taught me is that on the longer clubs, the focus nees to be on hitting a good shot rather than trying to hit the club to a distance. And if in doubt, I just take the longer club and swing it easily, usually for a better result. If i have 195 to the middle on a par 5, I just swing the 3 wood smoothly, knowing that if I get it right it will go pin high or back edge, rather than forcing a shorter club up there which can be a lot more innaccurate.

[markTHEblake]

Because I'm cleverer than you.

That may or may not be true, but even a donkey knows you don't have a control to compare too!

[Webster]

Oh, it's true alright. Less is more Blakey.

[LeftyHoges]

Still on the 10 club bandwagon and it's working out great (1 under 71 in a howling gale today). New bag set up is:

Razr Fit 8.5 driver
TM200 15* 3 wood
Mizuno 24* Fli-Hi
PING Eye2+ 6-pw
PING Tour 56*
Sportsman Wizard 600 putter.

You shot 71 today in THAT ****ing wind!?!?

I bow to the flusher, and you all should too. Portland was crazy hard today, Port Fairy would've been almost unplayable.

Quite a few blokes today were saying how impossible it would have been there today, wait til I tell em tomorrow that someone went red. It'll blow their ****ing minds!

As an aside, I'll be adopting the 13 club challenge for the quarters and semis of the club champs tomorrow after my 6 iron somehow developed a crack in the middle of its shaft.

[simmsy]

Buggy frames will do that to shafts mate.

[BenM]

Lefty you must've got a bad batch of shafts. Probably from the same lot Courty's came from.

[Ferrins]

Jack is so good that he will break par with less and less clubs and eventually with no clubs and no course just his hand on his old fella kicking back in his recliner.

[Webster]

I don't even own a recliner you moron.

[Jarro]

Jack.. post up your golflink number please.

[Webster]

Why?

[Jarro]

So we can follow your handicap during the 10 club challenge.

[Webster]

Here you go:

http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=3071406073

[Jarro]

Excellent.

Now, when did you start the 10 club challenge ?

[Webster]

Jan 1.

[Courty]

As an aside, I'll be adopting the 13 club challenge for the quarters and semis of the club champs tomorrow after my 6 iron somehow developed a crack in the middle of its shaft.

It's not so bad. I've been managing just fine without my 7 iron for the last few rounds. ;)


Lefty you must've got a bad batch of shafts. Probably from the same lot Courty's came from.

Yep, Haysey's house of pre-abused golf clubs. ;)


Here you go:

http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=3071406073

Nice shootin, Jack. An unhappy return to former stomping grounds? Did it take you a few holes to recover from the nausea of the new 1st hole. ;)

[Webster]

All rounds are not equal Courty, just a warm up for 72 at Barnbougle over the following 3 days.

[Steve57]

All rounds are not equal Courty, just a warm up for 72 at Barnbougle over the following 3 days.72 at Barnbougle is great shooting Jack in anyone's language. Well done!

[Webster]

72 holes mate.

[Steve57]

Oh ok. What did you shoot down there and what did you think of the course? Did you play Lost Farm as well?

[Webster]

They weren't comp rounds so they don't count, but I did play very well. The courses are great and always getting better.

[LeftyHoges]

Buggy frames will do that to shafts mate.

Correct, they will! :lol:


Lefty you must've got a bad batch of shafts. Probably from the same lot Courty's came from.

I'm sick of getting dodgy shafts. Tighter tolerances please manufacturers!


It's not so bad. I've been managing just fine without my 7 iron for the last few rounds. ;)

Yep, only wanted it twice today in 32 holes and once if I hit it I would've been long and dead so did just fine! ;-)

[Yossarian]

While not shooting the scores that Jack does since adopting his 10 club theory I've dropped 4 shots. Thanks Uncle Jack.

[Yossarian]

Went to 11 clubs today because I felt I needed the 5 iron for a par 3, the results were not good.

[Marto65]

I don't even own a recliner you moron.

Post of the year.

[simmsy]

It wasn't your 5i that was the problem Yoss.

[Ashes]

I want to be like Jack.

Jumping on board the 10 club train starting with a social hit at Marangaroo tomorrow.

Have got it down to 11 clubs but don't have Jacks 5* loft gaps in the irons so having trouble deciding on which club to drop out to bring it down to 10. 9 iron is the least used of these for some reason, so that's the front runner. Gap wedge is probably my best club so that isn't going anywhere. 5 iron is potentially an option, but would leave me stuffed on approaches from outside of 160m.

Thoughts?

Driver
5 wood - 18* (~200m)
5i - 27.5* (~172m)
6i - 31.5* (~160)
7i - 35.5* (~148)
8i - 39.5* (~136)
9i - 43.5* (~124)
PW - 48* (~110)
GW - 52.5* (~96)
SW - 57*
Putter

[simmsy]

Get rid of your 5i.
In all seriousness you have no place trying to hit greens from 160+

Hit a 7i and then your trusty GW as a knock down.

[simmsy]

You play off 20 yet you know you hit your 5i 172m?

Not 170 or 175 but 172.

You're a funny bugga.

[Ashes]

You play off 20 yet you know you hit your 5i 172m?

Not 170 or 175 but 172.

You're a funny bugga.

You don't know what ~ means? :)

It's a bit of a guess on avg decent strike to be honest. 5i varies from 30m to 180+m depending on the day.

[simmsy]

Yes I know what it means I was pointing out your 172m. Like you know how far it will go.

[Ashes]

Get rid of your 5i.
In all seriousness you have no place trying to hit greens from 160+

Hit a 7i and then your trusty GW as a knock down.

I sometimes forget I'm not completely awesome at this game... :)

If I'm hitting them well, I actually feel reasonably confident hitting approaches with the 5i, and sometimes 4i. As an example, I've got a pretty good strike rate on Ellenbrook 6 hitting that green from around 175m.

When I'm not hitting them well, course management is kind of irrelevant!

But I'll give the 5i a miss and see what that does for me.

[Webster]

I want to be like Jack.

Good for you Ashes. Take comfort in the fact that you are not alone.

Start out with 11 and see how you go. You can always drop the 5 iron and play a 24-25* hybrid instead.

The long clubs are just for getting close to the green unless you are a scratch marker. It's the 8-9-PW-GW where you make your score. Learn to hit them properly with lots of control and you wont be off 20 for much longer.

Good luck with it all.

[Ashes]

Good for you Ashes. Take comfort in the fact that you are not alone.

Start out with 11 and see how you go. You can always drop the 5 iron and play a 24-25* hybrid instead.

The long clubs are just for getting close to the green unless you are a scratch marker. It's the 8-9-PW-GW where you make your score. Learn to hit them properly with lots of control and you wont be off 20 for much longer.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers Jack. I'm taking this wanna be like jack campaign seriously so if you're playing 10 clubs, then that's what I'll do.

I don't give my golf much thought normally, but reflecting on Simmsy and your comments, I must admit that I tend to be deep in 3 putt territory even if I do hit a green with anything more than an 8i.

What would be the play if I'm out of 8i range, aim to put it in front of the green?

[Webster]

Ashes, I have just started a new thread which you might find helpful.

[Feelzy]

I'm getting closer to 10 clubs by the week as my Driver broke a couple of days ago and my 7 iron the week before.

Just by swinging the club, no hitting the turf or anything

[Ferrins]

I am now playing 17 clubs and no one has caught me out yet.

[perci]

I am now playing 17 clubs and no one has caught me out yet.

How long is your Putter?

[Ferrins]

I have your putter;)

[Waddzy]

I have dropped to 10 clubs in the past 4 weeks and my scores are obviously showing for it.. I didnt even really mean to do so but have taken out my "problem" clubs that get me in more trouble than good normally trying to play a hero shot..

Current set up : driver , 3 wood , 5-9 iron , PW , SW and putter. All my other wedges I.E 52 and 58 leave me with 2 many options and I choose a shot out of my league that doesnt pay off... and my hybrid does strange things.. so If i cant reach the par 5 in 2 with my 5iron because I havent hit my drive well enough.. I just lay up to the 100 markers.

[Webster]

Good stuff Waddzy.

[Yossarian]

8 of my last 9 are now flagged. Try Jacks 10 club challenge for yourselves and reap the rewards people. And the free steak knives.

[Dotty]

8 of my last 9 are now flagged. Try Jacks 10 club challenge for yourselves and reap the rewards people. And the free steak knives.
Those last nine were more likely played a better maintained course.

[Yossarian]

True enough, Royale with Perth is an easier track as well. I am playing more awesome now though.

[Shadesy]

Those last nine were more likely played a better maintained course.

I'll sort the home track bully out Wednesday.

[Ashes]

Am I going to look stupid carrying 10 clubs in a 14-way bag?

[Johnny Canuck]

Am I going to look stupid carrying 10 clubs in a 14-way bag? The clubs and the bag have no bearing on the equation.

[simmsy]

Am I going to look stupid carrying 10 clubs in a 14-way bag?

How you look with 10 clubs in your bag will be all forgotten about when they see you swing mate.

You have more to worry about than what your bag/club ratio looks like.

[Webster]

Just put four umbrellas in the empty holes.

[Ashes]

How you look with 10 clubs in your bag will be all forgotten about when they see you swing mate.

You have more to worry about than what your bag/club ratio looks like.

Such as?

[matty]

I don't mind the sound of this. I can drop the 2 hybrid, the 4 iron and 60*. I rarely hit the 4 and 60* anyway. I'd most likely drop the 52 gap for the 4th.

Might have to look into the TM ATV wedge. I haven't really taken much notice of these. Could they cover the 52 - 58* range?

[matty]

The next time I play the bag will now be-:

Driver
21* Hybrid
5-PW
56* SW
Putter

Going to buy a 56* TM ATV for the supposed versatility.

[IanO]

I am thinking of doing this as well and will try it out this weekend.

Clubs in bag:
Driver
4 wood
Hybrid
5 iron
6 iron
7 iron
9 iron
PW
60* W
Putter

Clubs out:
4 iron - sometimes I flush it other times not
8 iron - I hit it the same distance as the 9 iron for some stupid reason
54* - I hardly use it

Will see what happens.

[Ashes]

Am I going to look stupid carrying 10 clubs in a 14-way bag?


The clubs and the bag have no bearing on the equation.


How you look with 10 clubs in your bag will be all forgotten about when they see you swing mate.

You have more to worry about than what your bag/club ratio looks like.

Spot on you two.

It's also probably a moot point when one elects to wear a short sleeve spray jacket...

[simmsy]

You're just full of bright ideas aren't you.

[matty]

went to the range today with my 10 club set up. Most interesting thing was hitting the distances between SW and PW. Just seemed to be able to coast it in with a PW. Will see how it works tomorrow on the course.

[matty]

The gap wedge will have to go back in. Didn't miss the 4iron, the 2 hybrid, or the lobby. Cost me 3 shots not having it. 2 shots I tried to muscle a SW and came up just short in the trap. One PW just hit too soft and came up well short. I think an 11 club bag suits me better. Just not good enough to do half PW's with an sort of confidence at the moment.

[Ashes]

Changing things up this week.

Driver, 5w, GW and TourFit putter out.
3w, 23h, 6i and Cobra putter in.

Setup:

Baffler 3 wood - 15.5*
Baffler hybrid - 23*
5i - 27.5*
6i - 31.5*
7i - 35.5*
8i - 39.5*
9i - 43.5*
PW - 48*
SW - 57*
Putter

If the 10 club thing works for me, I might try getting iron lofts tweaked to 5* gaps from 25* 5i to 50* PW.

[Ashes]

Changing things up this week.

Driver, 5w, GW and TourFit putter out.
3w, 23h, 6i and Cobra putter in.

Setup:

Baffler 3 wood - 15.5*
Baffler hybrid - 23*
5i - 27.5*
6i - 31.5*
7i - 35.5*
8i - 39.5*
9i - 43.5*
PW - 48*
SW - 57*
Putter

If the 10 club thing works for me, I might try getting iron lofts tweaked to 5* gaps from 25* 5i to 50* PW.

Made the fatal mistake of adding a driver to the above setup on the weekend.

Pulled it out twice which cost me a total of 4 shots, a comp win and a PB.

Will be back to 10 clubs proper again next week.

[Johnny Canuck]

At least you went out like a man.

[solarbear]

Been running 4w, 3h, 5-sw, putter for a while.

And loving it. Bag is lighter. Consitency is going up. And club selection is quite fun. Pga should reduce the number to 11 and bring back some creativity.

I don't find I have any major gaps either. 4w about 220 average, 3h 190-200, 5 iron about 160-175. Do most of my pitching with a pw.

[Pencil]

10!! I'd carry 18 if they'd let me.

[Ashes]

10!! I'd carry 18 if they'd let me.

But would you score any better?

[Pencil]

No idea, but imagine how many more clubs I could buy.

[becaben]

10 clubs seems to suit most amateur players but what if you used the remaining 4 slots for "alternative" clubs. For example, carry two drivers a high loft for windless or downwind holes and a low loft for up wind shots ??

[LeftyHoges]

10 clubs seems to suit most amateur players but what if you used the remaining 4 slots for "alternative" clubs. For example, carry two drivers a high loft for windless or downwind holes and a low loft for up wind shots ??

I tried that a few weeks ago. Shot 83. Not a good idea.

[IanO]

I am going to cut a couple of clubs for this Saturday. Proposed bag (11 clubs):
Driver
4 Wood
Hybrid
5-PW
54* Wedge
Putter

(Clubs out: 3 & 4 iron, 60* wedge)
I am going to track which clubs I use the least to target which one I will remove to get to 10 clubs.

[adamsgolfer]

Any of you guys still doing this 10 or 11 club thing? How are you finding it a few months down the track? Is it something you would recommened for an 18 to 22 handicap?

I'm planning on giving it a go but need to work out my club setup. I would prefer to not spend any money on this experiment so I have to make do with the clubs I already own.

I'm thiking:

Driver - which for me is 220m
5 wood - about 180-190m
5 iron - 160m
6 - 150
7 - 140
8 - 130
9 - 120
46 PW -105
56 SW - 75
Putter

I've got no problem with the gap between PW and SW as I don't currently play a gap and I'm comfortable with 3/4 pitches.

My concern is that in general I'm not long enough with my irons to take adavantage of tis kind of limited club setup. I don't have a hybrid. I do have a 4 iron that when I hit well can go to 170m but I'm talking 1 in 10 shots, the rest of the time I chunk it or it it just as for as my 6 or 7 iron anyway.

[Waddzy]

I find it great for myself (16 Handicapper) was 25 when I started using only 10 (11 clubs at most). especially with the wedges .. keeping it simple around the greens by having 2 choices really , up and down with the SW or bump and run with a pw/9i. You shouldn't need anything more than your 5 iron as it makes you lay up for your par 5's . A much smarter option at our handicaps.. driver when you can , 5 wood for tighter holes and then if you cant make it to the green with the 5i , lay up to a good distance that your confident with.

[3Puttpete]

I tried this on the weekend but took a slightly different approach (no pun intended).

I don't really have much hope of hitting a green with anything more than a 6 iron and usually end up in trouble if I try. With that in mind I took out my 5 wood and 22* hybrid and went driver, 6-9 irons, 4 wedges and putter.

I'll stick with it for a while and see what I learn.

[Sydney Hacker]

4 Wedges? Do you know how to use them all? Without trying to be a smartarse (it comes naturally), are you stuffing around with your short game too much and trying shots that you shouldn't?

[wizard_of_oz]

4 Wedges? Do you know how to use them all? Without trying to be a smartarse (it comes naturally), are you stuffing around with your short game too much and trying shots that you shouldn't? 4 wedges as in Pitching, Gap, Sand and Lob wedge would be quite normal, no?

[3Puttpete]

4 Wedges? Do you know how to use them all? Without trying to be a smartarse (it comes naturally), are you stuffing around with your short game too much and trying shots that you shouldn't?

I don't think it's a smartarse question and understand it goes against conventional wisdom.

The idea is to reduce stuffing around and hitting shots I shouldn't, to hit a full shot down to 70m out and not have to worry about 1/2 or 3/4 shots until I'm inside this. I read somewhere this can help someone at my level of chopperness (21) and thought I'd give it a go.

[Sydney Hacker]

At a level where he can't reliably hit anything longer than a 6 iron? I would be scrapping at least the lob wedge and maybe the gap wedge too.

[boingk]

Seems to work okay for me, I'm using either my old set or the new Woodworm 'Zoom' package.

Old:
1 1/2 wood, 2, 5, 6, 8i, PW, SW, putter. 8 clubs, works okay.

New:
10.5 driver, 5-8i, PW, SW, putter. Also 8 clubs.

I should also probably mention that my short game is a lot better than my long game... hence an absence of 3 woods, 5 woods or hybrid clubs.

- boingk

[Steve57]

From memory Jack is of the opinion you only need two wedges, PW & SW.
My game has certainly improved since I threw out the 4th wedge, I now use 46*PW, 50*GW and 56*SW.

[rubin]

4 Wedges? Do you know how to use them all? Without trying to be a smartarse (it comes naturally), are you stuffing around with your short game too much and trying shots that you shouldn't?


I don't think it's a smartarse question and understand it goes against conventional wisdom.

The idea is to reduce stuffing around and hitting shots I shouldn't, to hit a full shot down to 70m out and not have to worry about 1/2 or 3/4 shots until I'm inside this. I read somewhere this can help someone at my level of chopperness (21) and thought I'd give it a go.

FWIW mate, its normally the other way around. You will be far more accurate with half and 3/4 shots as there is less that can go wrong. I think Jack actually advocated this in either an earlier post, or another thread (maybe ask jack thread?).

[Ferrins]

I've restricted myself to buying no more than 10 clubs a month.

[Peter]

There are a few here who should probably try to restrict themselves to only breaking 10 clubs per year.

Or restrict themselves to hitting shanks with only 10 different clubs per year.

[3Puttpete]

From memory Jack is of the opinion you only need two wedges, PW & SW.
My game has certainly improved since I threw out the 4th wedge, I now use 46*PW, 50*GW and 56*SW.


FWIW mate, its normally the other way around. You will be far more accurate with half and 3/4 shots as there is less that can go wrong. I think Jack actually advocated this in either an earlier post, or another thread (maybe ask jack thread?).

I saw that. It's an experiment. I'll try this for a while then I'll go back to two and see what works better.

[Johnny Canuck]

I saw that. It's an experiment. I'll try this for a while then I'll go back to two and see what works better. If you can hit the 4 wedges comfortably and get decent results, keep them in the bag. don't take out something that is not costing you shots because a few guys on the net said so. I am a big advocate for 4 wedges. Only carrying 2 wedges forces you to hit a lot of half shots, etc. Jack is a gun golfer and can do this.Rubin stated a couple days ago that he doesn't finds Jack's advice that useful, now he is preaching it. Make up your mind, Rubes.

[rubin]

If you can hit the 4 wedges comfortably and get decent results, keep them in the bag. don't take out something that is not costing you shots because a few guys on the net said so. I am a big advocate for 4 wedges. Only carrying 2 wedges forces you to hit a lot of half shots, etc. Jack is a gun golfer and can do this.Rubin stated a couple days ago that he doesn't finds Jack's advice that useful, now he is preaching it. Make up your mind, Rubes.

No worries.

I don't find Jacks advice useful, and don't take note of it. However jack mentioned the 3/4 swing for wedges, but it isn't his idea. Nicklaus was the first person I saw who suggested it.

[Yossarian]

Good plan to ignore the scratch markers rubes, play your own game.

[rubin]

Good plan to ignore the scratch markers rubes, play your own game.

whats the point of listening to some muppet on the internet who has never seen me swing a club, let alone seen how I play on course.

[Yossarian]

:lol:

So you would listen to my advice before a bloke that can break par?

[Johnny Canuck]

whats the point of listening to some muppet on the internet who has never seen me swing a club, let alone seen how I play on course. That's how 3puttpete feels. Haven't you asked Jack for advice previously?

[rubin]

:lol:

So you would listen to my advice before a bloke that can break par?

That would depend on what the advice is. I'll listen, but may not care or put it into practice.


That's how 3puttpete feels. Haven't you asked Jack for advice previously?

not seriously.

[Yossarian]

It is interesting that this criticism seems to have emerged after the ban.

[rubin]

It is interesting that this criticism seems to have emerged after the ban.

not really. I had mentioned this a few times prior to the banning.

[Yossarian]

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[adamsgolfer]

Time to drag up this old thread. Anyone still doing this 10 club thing? If so how is it working out longer term?

[LeftyHoges]

I swear I saw 11 in his bag at Port Fairy in the Moyneyana...

[Ferrins]

He had 11 or 12

[LeftyHoges]

He had 11 or 12

Controversial. I suppose it is 2014 now though.

[oncewasagolfer]

I was using 10 last week added the 3 wood so 11 now but mainly because I was carrying. Haven't really missed the 3 hybrid, gap wedge or lob wedge.

[Webster]

He had 11 or 12

It was 11 (52/58 instead of 56)

Even par today though with 10.

[Johnny Canuck]

Thanks for letting that through, review board.

Good shooting, Jack.

[LeftyHoges]

It was 11 (52/58 instead of 56)

Even par today though with 10.

This makes me sick.

Flusher.

[Yossarian]

I fluctuate between 10 and 12. Want to change my wedge setup though, so maybe 13. The shame.

[adamsgolfer]

The most I ever need given my distance gaps between driver and 4 iron is 12, 14 clubs for me is just carrying weight for no reason.

I'm going to keep experimenting with 10 so next time out will be: Driver (10.5), hybrid (18/19), 5 iron (27) to PW (48 ), 56 and Putter.

If it works out I'll probably end up with this bag (scouring the net for some reviews on it) for a full light weight set up http://www.golfbox.com.au/Oakley-Factory-Lite-Stand-Bag_p_213992.html

[adamsgolfer]

High handicappers with 14 clubs??? there has got to be a handful of clubs that actually cost you strokes over the course of 18. Example, 60 degree lob or 3 wood off deck.

[3Puttpete]

I've been fairly settled on 11 for a while but rarely use one of them so it probably should be 10

[adamsgolfer]

I've been fairly settled on 11 for a while but rarely use one of them so it probably should be 10

Which club is it?

[Waddzy]

Which club is it?
Putter.

[3Puttpete]

Which club is it?

20.5* hybrid

[3Puttpete]

Putter.

You could probably leave yours out of your champs bag. I don't imagine a bloke shooting 23 points every round needs it on many greens.

Shut up!

[adamsgolfer]

20.5* hybrid

So what would be your 10 bag set up?

For me any fairway wood is too close to driver (although I don't think I get max distance out of driver) so a hybrid is the perfect in-between.

[adamsgolfer]

Putter.

Sometimes I putt better with a 4 iron that my putter, especially on lag putts...

[Ashes]

I've been fairly settled on 11 for a while but rarely use one of them so it probably should be 10

What's your setup?

[3Puttpete]

Driver, 3,4,5h, 7-p, 52, 58.

The 3h is questionable

[Ashes]

Driver, 3,4,5h, 7-p, 52, 58.

The 3h is questionable

What loft 5h and 7i? Sounds like a really big gap.

[3Puttpete]

Not sure on 5h but a guess would be 26 and 7i is 31. 15-20 m gap

[Ashes]

Forgot about modern lofts. Was thinking 7i around 34-35.

[3Puttpete]

Forgot about modern lofts. Was thinking 7i around 34-35.

Cool

[adamsgolfer]

Not sure on 5h but a guess would be 26 and 7i is 31. 15-20 m gap

31 is my 6 iron.... although my irons are 10 years old.

As long as your yardage gaps are consistent is all that matters.

[adamsgolfer]

Driver, 3,4,5h, 7-p, 52, 58.

The 3h is questionable

I can see how at the top end of the bag a 3 hyrid and a 4 hyrbid are pretty much the same. Why don't you drop the 4 hybrid and go straight from 3 to 5 hybrid?

[3Puttpete]

31 is my 6 iron.... although my irons are 10 years old.

As long as your yardage gaps are consistent is all that matters.

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[adamsgolfer]

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I'll just ignore the number on the sole and save some money

[navierStoked]

Less is more. 10 is hard though.. Driver, 3h, 5-P, 54, 60, putter... I guess I could maybe ditch the 5 and swap the 3h for a 4 iron..

[solarbear]

Been playing like this for ages. Find it a lot more fun.

3W, 5W, 3H, 6-pw, putter

Find I don't really need the 5W but there are 2 holes I prefer it to T off with for purely psychological reasons.

Sometimes I take a Driver for kicks or a SW if the course demands it.