Open live stream up now

[Chris32]

http://new.livestream.com/theopen/Day1

[Jarro]

On FoxSports3 at 6pm also :)

[Puji]

Thankyou!

[Shadesy]

Whos the reporter out on the Range??? Shes Cute.

[Puji]

Yep! Love the accent

[Ronny]

Yes very tidy!
Someone by the name of Cara

[Shadesy]

Cara Robinson..I'm in Love..


http://youtu.be/WBBumsHYUWw

[Jarro]

Geez you guys are easily pleased

[sms316]

On FoxSports3 at 6pm also :) Don't you mean Fox Sports 3 HD?

[Shadesy]

Geez you guys are easily pleased

Sorry Brad Pitt.

[hardboiled]

http://new.livestream.com/theopen/Day1

Where's the GOLF?!

[oncewasagolfer]

Haven't seen one shot yet just talking

[Courty]

Apparently the broadcast on that link is course reviews & interviews etc. but no actual coverage of the rounds in progress.

[hardboiled]

Anyone got a stream with golf?

[sms316]

Anyone got a stream with golf? Yep. Channel 205.

[oncewasagolfer]

www.coolsport.tv/stream3.php

[TheNuclearOne]

Woods going great guns.

[oncewasagolfer]

Adam Scott tied with tiger at -4

[TheTrueReview]

www.coolsport.tv/stream3.php (http://www.coolsport.tv/stream3.php)

Nope, doesn't work either. Can't get past the bogus window. Clicking on it opens a window with an ad in it.

[oncewasagolfer]

Works for me do u have Adblock plus?

[oncewasagolfer]

Wiziwig.tv

[TheNuclearOne]

Woods is in the zone.

[oncewasagolfer]

This is awesome Scott -5. Might have had too many ciders:)

[TheNuclearOne]

Woods in a big divot, no drama at all.

[BayBum]

Brilliant slow mo of that shot.Im enjoying listening to Tony Jacklin ? Good honest comments,some good insight in to how it was way back when too. :)

[Scifisicko]

www.coolsport.tv/stream3.php (http://www.coolsport.tv/stream3.php)

Amazing, wonder how long till they get a cease and desist letter from Foxtel's lawyers.

[TheNuclearOne]

Totally agree with BB.

[TheNuclearOne]

What a shot by Scott.

[oncewasagolfer]

Ugly putting style lol

[THEDUKEOFCORNWALL]

https://twitter.com/cararobbo

[dave1]

Ugly putting style lol Who cares after a 64!

[Jarro]

I'd love to see Scott win this thing.

His swing looks fantastic ... so hopefully he can keep his head together and keep making putts with his cheat stick ;)

[Puji]

I hope he comes second and realises taht in order to win he needs to use a proper putter.

It just too painful to watch someone with such a great swing wield that ugly thing on the greens.

[sms316]

I'd love to see Scott win this thing. I'm sure that the engraver has already worked out what font to use for the asterisk.

[Jarro]

I hope he comes second and realises taht in order to win he needs to use a proper putter.

It just too painful to watch someone with such a great swing wield that ugly thing on the greens.

.. as opposed to Jeev Milkha Singhs cross-handed aborted swing with a conventional putter :lol:

[sms316]

.. as opposed to Jeev Milkha Singhs cross-handed aborted swing with a conventional putter :lol: Limper wrists than Carson Kressley?

[oncewasagolfer]

Who cares after a 64! Just a comment one of the pommy commentators made think it was peter ellis

[dave1]

Lets not make this thread into a putter issue

Great round by scotty.

Love links golf!

[Jarro]

Course looks sensational !!

Seems funny to start with a par 3 too..... but i kinda like it :)

[simmsy]

You should come to the Real Champs then jarro. Bunbury has two of them.

[Jarro]

I've been to the 'real' champs mate

[dave1]

Course looks sensational !!

Seems funny to start with a par 3 too..... but i kinda like it :)

its pitty only one major is played on a links course. I always find it odd that the game started in there yet we have 3 majors in the USA.

I know they use Pebbe beach for majors and whistling straights held a major too I think , neither is true links course

as one player said this week (cant remember who) said links golf is the way the game is meant to be played.

I would love to see th Australian Open played on a links course more often. Yes Im biased because I play on a links course but its great to watch.

I also ejoy it because it gives shorter hitters a chance also (accuracy is so important)

[Johnny Canuck]

anything tonight?

[popper81]

anything tonight? I can set the laptop up in front of the tv and we can Skype ;)

[oncewasagolfer]

Been watching the same stream as last night for 5 hours

[Johnny Canuck]

coolsport stream 3?

[oncewasagolfer]

Yep

[dave1]

carrmmmoon scotty

[dave1]

64-67

9 under

Looked shakey early today but struck it sweet all day

This surely is his chance.

It must be now

[Scifisicko]

On channel 4 tonight
http://www.coolsport.tv/stream4.php

[Sydney Hacker]

64-679 underLooked shakey early today but struck it sweet all dayThis surely is his chance.It must be now looked shakey but struck it sweat all day?

[oncewasagolfer]

looked shakey but struck it sweat all day? Makes perfect sense to dave1

[Ferrins]

Been watching the same stream as last night for 5 hours
What stream?

[oncewasagolfer]

coolsport stream 4

Nice ace for Paddy!

[TheNuclearOne]

I'm expecting the first tee announcer to appear in the gay marriage thread any second. FFS.

[TheNuclearOne]

Scott is hitting the ball incredible and putting well to boot.

[oncewasagolfer]

Sure is hope he can keep it going

[BrisVegas]

Go Scotty!

[Jarro]

Go Scotty!

+1

[sms316]

Won't count. Using a cheat stick.

[PeteyD]

Go Scotty. Will count for everyone that follows the rules.

[sms316]

Won't count for everyone who thinks that the rules need to be changed.

[Sydney Hacker]

It was a good nights viewing, Scott looked pretty solid all night. I hope he rides the "pony" with his putter around the 18th green after winning tonight, kisses it and thanks the powers that be for letting him use it within the rules.

[KristianJ]

Undoubtedly SMS hopes the putter will act as a lightning rod whilst being ridden in said pony fashion.

[sms316]

It was a good nights viewing, Scott looked pretty solid all night. I hope he rides the "pony" with his putter around the 18th green after winning tonight, kisses it and thanks the powers that be for letting him use it within the rules. As long as Kevin Nealon is behind the green saying "Doing the bull dance. Feeling the flow. Working it. Working it."

[dc68]

Go Scotty. I don't give a shit about your putter!!!

[PeteyD]

Won't count for everyone who thinks that the rules need to be changed.

It will to me, and I think the rule should be changed. Nothing wrong with playing in the rules, no need to make new ones up, just like a lot of the old farts playing on satdee ....

[kev]

I wonder if this will suddenly be on FTA tonight?

[Golfnut]

That wouldn't surprise me kev :roll:

[oncewasagolfer]

I wonder if this will suddenly be on FTA tonight? My exact thought, fingers crossed

[Yossarian]

Is Scott wearing the same top as Thursday?

[kev]

Is Scott wearing the same top as Thursday?

Walk of shame?

[Golfnut]

Is Scott wearing the same top as Thursday? If it helps win it, I would BO and all.

[TheNuclearOne]

Should be fascinating tonight. Randy Andy might be the danger. Woods has never come from behind on the last day of a major so history is strongly against him, tho there's a first time for everything. If Scott keeps his present rhythm it's his to lose.

[BenM]

I wonder if this will suddenly be on FTA tonight?

It would be awesome if it was, F1 then British Open, and one very tired little vegemite at work tomorrow coming up!

[tuna]

I think Zach Johnson is the forgotten man, in career best form and I can't see a repeat of Friday's 74. If Scotty comes back to the field then I think ZJ might be the man to beat. $12 to win W/O Scott, I'll have a piece of that thank you very much.

[Golfnut]

It would be awesome if it was, F1 then British Open, and one very tired little vegemite at work tomorrow coming up! Haha, that's me now. < 8 hrs sleep total over the last 2 nights is catching up with me.

[jd_FRANK]

Is anyone else struggling with the coolsport stream tonight?

[Golfnut]

What streams jd? I tried a 3, 4 and 5 with no luck.

[jd_FRANK]

What streams jd? I tried a 3, 4 and 5 with no luck.

http://www.coolsport.tv/stream2.php

[Golfnut]

Yeah, I'm not getting any more than 5 sec of footage before it has to re-buffer......had no dramas last night.

[Pieface]

Scott's putter straight on song...

[dc68]

:roll: I'm going to bed to stop the jinx

[dave1]

things going scotts way so far, tiger hvaing no luck

LOL commentator just said Tiger has a limp!!


nah it wont happen just having some fun at my own silliness

snedds just pumped one into the jungle on 7, he didnt even look for it!

tough conditions with the wind up.

scotts down a couple but so is everyone else

[dave1]

snedds double bogey helps scott

4 sht lead still

tigers chip on 7 for bird was sickly good

this is a great test of golf

[backintheswing]

Don't stuff it up for virge with a thread saying who has won dave.

[mike]

If I was Snedecker's caddy I'd tell him to slow the fk down. Seems to rush everything.

Scott looks good for this. A third of the way there.

[oncewasagolfer]

Can't believe McDowell 3 putted the par 5 what a let off for Scott

[dave1]

was a pretty long putt

thought scott was lucky not to inccur a penalty when his ball moved if he had been addressing it he might not have been so lucky

lead back to 3

[dave1]

Don't stuff it up for virge with a thread saying who has won dave.

yep but if you want to watch it tomorrow stay off the forums....what we are not allowed to get a little excited

[mike]

thought scott was lucky not to inccur a penalty when his ball moved if he had been addressing it he might not have been so lucky

Hasn't that rule changed?

[mike]

That shot tracker thing is amazing.

[mike]

ffs every putt dead on line but 4 inches short.

[dave1]

Hasn't that rule changed?

yes it has... if he had been adressing it would be penalty

he was lucky in the sense he wasnt very close to it

the rules official asked him how close he had been to the ball and what time had elapsed when he had mved away from the ball

[mike]

G mac. wtf

[peter_rs]

What was that shot by g mac

[peter_rs]

:) lost ball

[oncewasagolfer]

Happy days:)

[mike]

Tiger putting with a Nike Method. Since when? ( I haven't watched golf for a long time.)

This coverage is brilliant compared to the seppo shit.

[sms316]

:) lost ball It's ok. It was only a Srixon.

[dave1]

Thats was a shot out of desperation - going for the green in 2

its in the jungle!

[dave1]

commentators over analyzing it, all they need to say IT was a duck hook

geez Faldo is dead boring to listen to, it was just a crap shot, what he was trying to dohad no effect on the shot he played because he wasn't planning to hit a duck hook

[peter_rs]

Not really his reload was green side.

Els could be a chance

[mike]

Els could be a chanceYeah seems to be the only threat now, everyone else is tripping over their feet.

[dave1]

It was just a crap shot as in was almost a shank

Faldo is saying scott needs to make birdies, hello he leads by 4!! all he needs to do is hit greens and let other guys go for the hero shots like G mac just did!

[mike]

Fox Sports just dropped out. Great.

[peter_rs]

He is the only one in the top 15 under par... A true open

[sms316]

Fox Sports just dropped out. Great. Working fine here. That's what you get for living in the sticks.

[peter_rs]

Bad news mike it's you

[dave1]

Im in the semi sticks (low lying shrubb of Albany - still working good)

luvin this, this is why i gve up junk food and take away coffee s I could have fox

scott flushing it still

keep hitting greens, Jack Nicklaus strategy was just go for the middle of the green

Ernie

ernie...EERRRNIIIEEEE drops another one 3 back

[mike]

Back on now, thanks for the commentary Dave.

[dave1]

sorry its a smidgen exciting

I will keep it in check sir..... from getting too carried away

[mike]

all good

[dave1]

G mac uses the classic 290 didnt know that!

[mike]

I wish they'd walk faster. It's getting late.

[mike]

Geez Scott is solid off the tee.

[dave1]

I wish they'd walk faster. It's getting late.

yeah what are they thiunking?..bloody rude :lol:

A 12.25

all good

dont have to work in the morning just a 6 and 7 year old to amuse

[mike]

Scott finally nails a putt. Gutsy play from ernie. Two horse race now.

[dave1]

ernie tried to drive the 16th lost it right....sitting ok but it will be tough shot off the trampled down lie

[dave1]

BIG birdie BY scott GO YOU GOOD THING!!!

[dave1]

massive miss by ernie

10 feet left it short!

scott needs to stay foccussed, geez this is good

[matty]

This will be a massive up and down for Adam if he can pull it off.

[mike]

Bogey will do. 16 is a piss easy birdie hole.

[dave1]

3 lead with 3 to play!!

[matty]

Bogey. 3 shot lead, 3 to go.

[dave1]

I have never cheered for ernie to MISS but I did then

[dave1]

smart by scott lay up - make par or bird if he can stick it close

just hit the green and lead by 3 with 2 to play

[dave1]

good play on 16 hit the green

2 putts and get the hell out of there

[oncewasagolfer]

G mac uses the classic 290 didnt know that! Want to buy one?

[dave1]

tough tester for par now!

[matty]

Ordinary first putt on 16. Leaves a bit of work.

[dave1]

NO I cant seperate my confusion between 2....saw youres in the pro shop thread :lol:

[matty]

F$?$!$? Missed it. Bogey. 2 shot lead 2 to go.

[dave1]

dam!!!!

OK 2 lead!!

geez if ernie makes birdie Im going to get $#@en nervous

[dave1]

Great drive on 17
go you good thing!!!!!!

[matty]

I'd be feeling better if he parred the 16th but if he walks off with a par on 17 it should be enough.

[peter_rs]

Els if only

[dave1]

OMFG ernie

[matty]

Miss Ernie!

[sms316]

Gag fest. Go Ernie!

[matty]

This is turning into a possible nightmare.

[dave1]

shit!

[dave1]

its bloody greg norman all over again

[simmsy]

It's looking real bad for Scott now.
Love Big Ernie but c'mon Adam!!

[peter_rs]

Play off

[oncewasagolfer]

Play off Predicted that 90 minutes or so ago

[dave1]

great shot. Can make this putt

even the commentators getting it worng

he misses this putt its a friggin tie!!
are they watching the bloody game

[peter_rs]

Predicted that 90 minutes or so ago
Fine els wins

[dave1]

Ok

you guys better go get some coffee we might need it!!

cant believe this...NO I can because I watched the shark do it over and over and OVER

and guess who scotts idol is ? the shark

[dave1]

I cant watch!!

[mudrat]

Bunker!!!!!

[dave1]

ITS over .....well done ernie

Im fu##$%en gutted

[matty]

All over. Can't win from there. Deep in a bunker of 18th tee. Threw it away.

[Sydney Hacker]

That has to rank up there with the all time chokes!

[SundayHack]

Wow. Only woke up 45min ago. Was dreaming he blew a four shot lead. Didn't realise what was happening.

[dave1]

hes got a chance

[matty]

3m putt for playoff

[dave1]

ITS greg norman all over isnt it

the similarities are endless

[peter_rs]

ITS over .....well done ernie

Im fu##$%en gutted

Not close enough

[peter_rs]

ITS greg norman all over isnt it

the similarities are endless

Except we didn't have your commentary ;)

[Webster]

Great stuff boys keep it going

[Sydney Hacker]

Lucky Scott had the magic stick in the belly putter, hate to think what would have happened without it!

[Lucasto23]

****en Saffa :(

[peter_rs]

3 wood was the killer driver or iron, fire the caddy.. Great year for els.

[dave1]

I'm gutted!!

and all I want to do is meet Nick Flado and break every bone in his piss weak body

the wakers disparaging comments all day WANKER!!!

[dave1]

Ernie is all class as opposed to FALDO the wanker

Ernie straight away feels for Scott as opposed to FALDO being a total JERK

well done Ernie, all class ...great round!

[oncewasagolfer]

****! Totally gutted now to go to bed for a couple of hours sleep.

[dave1]

good night all

thanks for the fun!!

Geeze its guttering

[dave1]

Its odd I was gutted after the shark kept losing

I accpeted it because I knew it would happen - this wasnt the plan

shattered - good night all

[sms316]

Lucky Scott had the magic stick in the belly putter, hate to think what would have happened without it! He would have probably made the cut and we would have had a lot more sleep.

[Jono]

Very sad ... :cry:

[Nuffie]

Els was paying $27 at the start of the week. He was Brett Ogle's smokey and I should have put a tenner on him.

I dont have fox but sounds like the end would have been painful to see. I'm happy for Els but guttered again as an Aussie. How could he do a 'Norman'? It's like a disease!

[MegaWatty]

Just another pissweak Queenslander.

[MegaWatty]

Oh yeah... ;)

[Flavzz]

Scotty made nothing on the greens all day and should have had a 5 shot lead coming down the last. How many putts he left short was unreal. Feel for Scotty tho. He will have another chance I'm sure. Congrats to the big easy. Just a great all round bloke and legend of the game. Clutch putt on the last to win it.

[Nuffie]

Just another pissweak Queenslander. Is it a Queenslander or 'Kangaroo' thing that they get jumpy when heat is applied. Maybe he should adopt Mal Meninga as his caddy? :)

[Webster]

Ernie using the belly putter?

[Sydney Hacker]

wasn't he born in Adelaide ;)

[Sydney Hacker]

He would have probably made the cut and we would have had a lot more sleep. But you said the evil long stick removed all the skill from putting and prevented the player from suffering from the pressure. I just don't understand how he could have lost with the wonder stick in his bag!

[Jarro]

Very sad ... :cry:

Totally agree.

[goughy]

Woke up to hear this this morning. I thought, bloody hell, a choke. Then they said he was 4 up with 4 to play, and I don't know that choke covers it. Bloody hell.

[Webster]

Complete gagging.

[sms316]

Complete gagging. Too much blue cheese?

[Webster]

Haha.... Indeed.

[TheNuclearOne]

Jeez.

[sms316]

Haha.... Indeed. That blue cheese is nasty stuff. You would need a lot of Colgate after loading up on it.

[popper81]

Knives are out lads? Golf is a easy game sitting at home on the couch....

[Webster]

It is what it is popper. Don't pretend its something else.

The lad played well but he took the gas big time over the last four holes when he had it in the bag.

[mudrat]

Struggling at work today after watching that gag fest!

[PeteyD]

4 bogeys in the last 4 is a choke. els deserved winner with a 32 coming home when everyone else was losing it. Can;t believe I stayed up to watch Scotty lose it.

[Puji]

wow.

they say the last 9 on a sunday will really test a golfers make up.

Scott failed miserably.

what a joke.

maybe he should quite while he is somewhat ahead and just become a local club pro somewhere. Great golfer, but no good at competing.

[peter_rs]

So with nine holes to go how far back was Ernie....6 or 7 ?

6 back on the start more I think at 9
Birdies on 10 12 14 18

[Sydney Hacker]

wow.they say the last 9 on a sunday will really test a golfers make up.Scott failed miserably.what a joke.maybe he should quite while he is somewhat ahead and just become a local club pro somewhere. Great golfer, but no good at competing.Over react much? Not sure of how many club pros have won 18 tournaments around the world and earnt however many millions that Scott has won.

[Puji]

thats what will make him the best club pro in the world. because he definitely wont become the best golfer in the world.

[Sydney Hacker]

Nor will 99% of all professional golfers, should they give up?

[sms316]

thats what will make him the best club pro in the world. because he definitely wont become the best golfer in the world. Would blue cheese make the difference?

[kpac]

maybe he should quite while he is somewhat ahead and just become a local club pro somewhere. Great golfer, but no good at competing.

So that he could teach deadbeats like yourself? rather than winning tournaments against the best players in the world. He's a top 10 golfer in the world, and your suggestion is to hang up the boots and adjust some grips at the local course...? Great suggestion! He's made enough money to live a lifestyle you wouldn't comprehend, and you think that he'll need to work at a golf course......

Brilliant.

Feel sorry for the guy, the nerves set in after the roar from Ernies putt on 18. After the birdie, it looked like he'd settled, but then a bogey and the cheer for ernies finish and it was tough to watch. Thought that shot into the last was classy though! that would have been massive pressure, at least he gave himself a chance.

[BrisVegas]

Wow, what a choke. Sad to see really, as i think Adam's a great guy and i'd love to see him get that major monkey off his back.

Having said that, good on Ernie. He played the best when it mattered. Ernie has lost the masters a couple of times through gagging on the back nine sunday, so I guess this is some sort of payback.

So much for the "cheat stick" being the answer...

[SundayHack]

Worse $250 I have ever won...Picked Els at the start at 25s. When i saw it unfold I was guttered for Scott.

[Yossarian]

Wow, what a choke. Sad to see really, as i think Adam's a great guy and i'd love to see him get that major monkey off his back.

Having said that, good on Ernie. He played the best when it mattered. Ernie has lost the masters a couple of times through gagging on the back nine sunday, so I guess this is some sort of payback.

So much for the "cheat stick" being the answer...

It was for Ernie.

[Puji]

maybe its too early for you lot.

It was obviously a joke. amusing to see that some even bothered to respond to it.

The best golfer won. Earnie deserves it - its just sad for Australian Golf.

[Peter]

So much for the "cheat stick" being the answer...Would either guy have been in contention using a conventional putter?

[Leon Phelps]

So that he could teach deadbeats like yourself? rather than winning tournaments against the best players in the world. He's a top 10 golfer in the world, and your suggestion is to hang up the boots and adjust some grips at the local course...? Great suggestion! He's made enough money to live a lifestyle you wouldn't comprehend, and you think that he'll need to work at a golf course......

Brilliant.

Feel sorry for the guy, the nerves set in after the roar from Ernies putt on 18. After the birdie, it looked like he'd settled, but then a bogey and the cheer for ernies finish and it was tough to watch. Thought that shot into the last was classy though! that would have been massive pressure, at least he gave himself a chance.

+1

[BrisVegas]

Would either guy have been in contention using a conventional putter?

Impossible to answer that question.

However, both those guys have been in contention at big tournaments for many years using conventional putters. Adam won the Players Championships using a conventional putter and some solid clutch putting down the stretch. It's more about general nerves and getting on a roll with him I think. When it clicks for him, he can really dominate the field and his putting seems to go up a notch, regardless of what shape putter he's using that day.

[Pieface]

Went to bed after Scott striped his drive on 14. Woke up at 2.30am and see Els won by a stroke and had a total WTF moment!

Feel really bad for scott. He needs to lead in a major where no Saffers are playing. Oostihuzien (sp?) birdied the last four to take the US one last year. Scott bogeys the last four to hand it to Els at the Open.

Really like Els still though. He played a super back nine compared to the rest.

[Talart]

I don't call this a "choke" In the hunt for all of the tournament as much as 4 of the top 6 placed finishers. The winner is obviously excluded then Adam Scott's much noted score. Then there is Tiger WOODS 67, 67,<strong> 70, 73.</strong> choked in both the last two rounds?
Brandt SNEDEKER, 66, 64, <strong>73, 74.</strong> another two round choke?
Graeme MCDOWELL, 67, 69, 67, <strong>75</strong> a huge choke in the last round also?


"Choking" is a blase' explanation for a sporting result that is unexplainable to the people not playing the shots and in the moment on the course or sporting field themselves.

[LeftyHoges]

Explain / rationalize it any way you like Talart, THAT was a choke.

[kpac]

It was a choke. No getting around it. When pars will win and you lose, it's a choke. Still think the shot into 18 was super considering the pressure to get one close. I'd imagine he'd be filthy he didn't smash driver on the last. 3 wood was still bunker range, and driver took a few out of play. I hope he bounces back. Remember Rory choked up massive at last years masters, and came back better for it. Hopefully scotty can do the same....

[Webster]

I don't call this a "choke" In the hunt for all of the tournament as much as 4 of the top 6 placed finishers. The winner is obviously excluded then Adam Scott's much noted score. Then there is Tiger WOODS 67, 67,<strong> 70, 73.</strong> choked in both the last two rounds?
Brandt SNEDEKER, 66, 64, <strong>73, 74.</strong> another two round choke?
Graeme MCDOWELL, 67, 69, 67, <strong>75</strong> a huge choke in the last round also?


"Choking" is a blase' explanation for a sporting result that is unexplainable to the people not playing the shots and in the moment on the course or sporting field themselves.

Completely wrong.

[rubin]

I don't call this a "choke" In the hunt for all of the tournament as much as 4 of the top 6 placed finishers. The winner is obviously excluded then Adam Scott's much noted score. Then there is Tiger WOODS 67, 67,<strong> 70, 73.</strong> choked in both the last two rounds?
Brandt SNEDEKER, 66, 64, <strong>73, 74.</strong> another two round choke?
Graeme MCDOWELL, 67, 69, 67, <strong>75</strong> a huge choke in the last round also?


"Choking" is a blase' explanation for a sporting result that is unexplainable to the people not playing the shots and in the moment on the course or sporting field themselves.


Completely wrong.

What Jack said (can't believe I just typed that).

for reference:
In sports (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Sports), a "choke" is the failure of an athlete (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Sportsperson) or an athletic team to win a game (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Game) or tournament (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Tournament) when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event. Someone who chokes may be known as a "choker" or, more derisively, as a "choke artist." Choking in sport can be considered a form of analysis paralysis (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Analysis_paralysis). The opposite of choking is to be clutch (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Clutch_(sports)). A clutch player or team rises to the occasion under pressure rather than collapsing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(sports)

without a shadow of a doubt - this is what Scott did. His form did a langer in the space of 4 holes and he choked.

[dave1]

I suppose the good thing is scott is 32 and he can take solice from Ernie winning at his age (40 something)

On reflection the bogey on 16 was terrible. He laid up on a downwind driveable par 4.

I was hoping he would hit driver (could have made it with 3 wood just about)

Make bird and slam the door shut. He laid up - overcooked a downwind wedge/short iron

HE then 3 putted from 30/40 feet. If he had put in a greenside pot all he would need to do was get out and make 2 putts for par.

Now we all know its easy from the lounge chair. But it was a chance to close the deal. Even par on 16 would have meant he leads by 2 going to 17.

He also should have taken driver on 18 - less bunkers where his drive would land

He flushed driver all day! Choke - I dont know - reckon thats harsh with a sprinkle of truth maybe

For mine his strategy is what burned him

Ernie took driver on 18

Made birdie

Fortune favors the brave!

[kpac]

Ernie took driver on 18

Made birdie

Fortune favors the brave!

You are one out of the box Dave.
Ernie had no option mate, it was always driver, he had to birdie to be a chance. He wasn't brave at all, he only had 1 club to choose from.

[sms316]

I was almost considering taking dave1 off ignore. Good to know that he is still posting crap.

[mike]

Feel sorry for the guy,I don't. I wanted him to win but I don't feel sorry for him.

Multi millionaire, plays golf for a living, more than likely no mortgage, probably drives a Lambo and until recently was banging this sheila.

17981

Poor fella.

[rubin]

I don't. I wanted him to win but I don't feel sorry for him.

Multi millionaire, plays golf for a living, more than likely no mortgage, probably drives a Lambo and until recently was banging this sheila.

17981

Poor fella.

agree 100%.

Secondly, i think that no matter who your going for, its hard to dislike the Big Easy's wins. Its easy to hate it if a Kevin Na were to win a big one (as an example - doubtful as it may be), but when Ernie takes the Jacket/Jug its not bad.

[dave1]

You are one out of the box Dave.
Ernie had no option mate, it was always driver, he had to birdie to be a chance. He wasn't brave at all, he only had 1 club to choose from.

Scott hit driver so well all week.


On 18 driver is safer option - it takes the pots out of play. Even if you miss the fairway you can make par. From the pot its bogey.

I argue driver on 18 is a better % play.

I watched the whole thing every night!

I think on 18 scott was thinking make par - playoff.

Fair enough but why not be brave. I would rather see someone be brave amd lose

At least you can then say " He wasn't going to die wondering"

Charles Schwartzell - attacked the pins at the closing holes at Augusta in 2011

He was brave

[kitsoasis]

"Choking" is a blase' explanation for a sporting result that is unexplainable to the people not playing the shots and in the moment on the course or sporting field themselves.

You can spin it even better than a Canberra MP but he was leading by 3 with 4 holes to play. That's a choke.

Tiger and Brandt played pretty average golf no doubt, but they were never right in it to their eyeballs like Adam was.

[rubin]

Scott hit driver so well all week.


On 18 driver is safer option - it takes the pots out of play. Even if you miss the fairway you can make par. From the pot its bogey.

I argue driver on 18 is a better % play.

I watched the whole thing every night!

I think on 18 scott was thinking make par - playoff.

Fair enough but why not be brave. I would rather see someone be brave amd lose

At least you can then say " He wasn't going to die wondering"

Charles Schwartzell - attacked the pins at the closing holes at Augusta in 2011

He was brave

You previously stated that he overcooked a short iron into the green.

Consider that the pro's are considerably more accurate with a short iron/wedge than with a driver/FW wood - think of what the outcome would have been if he did go for the green.

Your forget sometimes dave - these guys play to the %. The smart play was to lay up short and take par, that is a percentage play. 80 - 90% of the time, on a short par 4 like that, if a pro were to lay up short, worse they will make is par. Try and drive the green, your margin for error is far greater.

[dave1]

By the premise of choking - anyone who didnt win choked

Its why I dont like it!

IF A bloke shoots 77 in round 1 - did he choke?

77 in round 1 is the same score as a 77 in round 4. There's too many variables to measure it properly.

Strategy is what cost scott Imo.

[rubin]

By the premise of choking - anyone who didnt win choked

Its why I dont like it!

IF A bloke shoots 77 in round 1 - did he choke?

77 in round 1 is the same score as a 77 in round 4. There's too many variables to measure it properly.

Strategy is what cost scott Imo.

I Just want to repost this for dave's benefit. It appears that he only reads his own posts or fails to understand others:


What Jack said (can't believe I just typed that).

for reference:
In sports (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Sports), a "choke" is the failure of an athlete (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Sportsperson) or an athletic team to win a game (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Game) or tournament (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Tournament) when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event. Someone who chokes may be known as a "choker" or, more derisively, as a "choke artist." Choking in sport can be considered a form of analysis paralysis (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Analysis_paralysis). The opposite of choking is to be clutch (http://www.ozgolf.net/wiki/Clutch_(sports)). A clutch player or team rises to the occasion under pressure rather than collapsing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(sports)

without a shadow of a doubt - this is what Scott did. His form did a langer in the space of 4 holes and he choked.

if you shoot 3 rounds of 77, you did not choke, as you did not squander a large lead nor did you have any form indicating you would contend for the lead. You were infact simply not good enough.

Please try again.

[PeteyD]

Scott played a conservative strategy for the whole round. Why would he change that? Easy to second guess. But you can not say 4 bogies in the last 4 holes is anything but a choke. Particularly 16.

[LeftyHoges]

By the premise of choking - anyone who didnt win choked

Its why I dont like it!

IF A bloke shoots 77 in round 1 - did he choke?

77 in round 1 is the same score as a 77 in round 4. There's too many variables to measure it properly.

Strategy is what cost scott Imo.

Wow. You really are an idiot.

[dave1]

You previously stated that he overcooked a short iron into the green.Consider that the pro's are considerably more accurate with a short iron/wedge than with a driver/FW wood - think of what the outcome would have been if he did go for the green.Your forget sometimes dave - these guys play to the %. The smart play was to lay up short and take par, that is a percentage play. 80 - 90% of the time, on a short par 4 like that, if a pro were to lay up short, worse they will make is par. Try and drive the green, your margin for error is far greater.Hey I agree all Im saying is he chose a conservative approach to 16 - 17 - 18It didnt work. Drive 16 -miss ..You still got 3 shots to make par.

[dave1]

Wow. You really are an idiot. Here we go again - you disagree so you abuse.My opinion is my opinion. I watched the whole tournament - he barely missed a fairway with driver all week.

[PeteyD]

Put it another way, everyone was chasing Scott, except for Ernie they all got killed by the pot bunkers. Scott hit a poor shot in on 16, and copped a pot bunker on 18.

[rubin]

Hey I agree all Im saying is he chose a conservative approach to 16 - 17 - 18It didnt work. Drive 16 -miss ..You still got 3 shots to make par.

you obviosuly don't agree, otherwise you would not have tried to make a point of it. If your livelihood is on the line - im sure the decisions you make on a golf course will be far more considered and analytical than what a bloke in albany thinks from his armchair whatching from the other side of the world.

And additionally, you have missed the point again. The margin for error for a pro with their wedges is 1 or 2 yards. the margin for error with a driver is probably 20 or 30 yards, or a few hundred thousand dollers.

[Jono]

If Scott went out there now and played the last 4 holes again, he wouldn't get 4 over no matter how he played them.

It's not a strategy problem. It was an execution problem due to nerves. The only strategy problem I can think of is not taking an iron off the tee on the last to put the left bunkers out of play.

I hope Scott recovers from this loss quickly. He is hitting the ball really well at the moment.

[MegaWatty]

He played pissweak all day. Attacke nothing. Left numerous putts short. Thought he just had to protect his lead. Bad move.

[sms316]

Is Els the first person to win majors with 3 (or is it even 4?) different manufacturers?

[LeftyHoges]

Here we go again - you disagree so you abuse.My opinion is my opinion. I watched the whole tournament - he barely missed a fairway with driver all week.

That may be construed as abusive but the fact that the term "choke" has to be spelled out to you and you still can't comprehend it properly proves that you are, in fact, an idiot. There is no way in hell that a field of 119 players (or however many it was) "choked" because one guy won it. That's the most ridiculous thing I've read. Scott was in a very commanding position and lost. The main definition of "choking".

And P.S. Strategy is what got Scott in the position to win it in the first place. He continued with the strategy which was a conservative one, had he gunned driver all tournament like you suggest he probably would have lost 5 balls in the long rough and not made the cut. These guys know what they are doing. They know their percentages.

[Iain]

Stop talking logic.

[LeftyHoges]

He played pissweak all day. Attacke nothing. Left numerous putts short. Thought he just had to protect his lead. Bad move.

Not so sure. He played well enough to be three shots up with four holes to play. I'd say that's pretty good strategy. If he attacks he can take a double / triple (or worse) and be behind and be chasing. He's proved previously that he's a good front runner, I would just say that nerves got the better of him coming home. Possibly even some adrenalin in there too.

I do have to agree about the putts though. The amount he left short in the heart meant he probably should have been 4 or 5 up with 4 to play. But, very easy to judge from here. He could have attacked those putts and three jacked and been level with four to play so it runs both ways.

[LeftyHoges]

Stop talking logic.

I can't help it..... :-)

(I assume you're talking to me)

[sms316]

Stop talking logic. Stop feeding the troll. Embrace the ignore function.

[Iain]

I can't help it..... :-)(I assume you're talking to me) Yep, just couldn't be bothered quoting your post.

[Webster]

Superb trolling Dave1. Love it.

[PeteyD]

Pretty sure Ernie had a few putts stop a roll or two away from the heart.

[LeftyHoges]

Superb trolling Dave1. Love it.


Stop feeding the troll. Embrace the ignore function.

Yes, but this was a genuine chance to call him an idiot. I'm not gonna pass that up! I couldn't care less about his opinion, just wanted the chance to go off my tits at someone. First time on the forum, hooray!


Yep, just couldn't be bothered quoting your post.

I love that laziness! :-)

[Yossarian]

What did Scott hit on 18 the previous days? I know the wind was different.

[Iain]

Yes, but this was a genuine chance to call him an idiot. I'm not gonna pass that up! I couldn't care less about his opinion, just wanted the chance to go off my tits at someone. First time on the forum, hooray!Do you think that'll be the last chance you get?
I love that laziness! :-)Thanks, it comes naturally.

[Yossarian]

I'll ask Scotty what he should have hit when I am at Perth Domestic tomorrow morning.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9607/n5033947624617023564.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/n5033947624617023564.jpg/)

[LeftyHoges]

Do you think that'll be the last chance you get?Thanks, it comes naturally.

Definitely not, but it's like passing on sex. One you miss out on is one you never catch up on.

[dave1]

That may be construed as abusive but the fact that the term "choke" has to be spelled out to you and you still can't comprehend it properly proves that you are, in fact, an idiot. There is no way in hell that a field of 119 players (or however many it was) "choked" because one guy won it. That's the most ridiculous thing I've read. Scott was in a very commanding position and lost. The main definition of "choking".

And P.S. Strategy is what got Scott in the position to win it in the first place. He continued with the strategy which was a conservative one, had he gunned driver all tournament like you suggest he probably would have lost 5 balls in the long rough and not made the cut. These guys know what they are doing. They know their percentages.



if he had stood on 18 with a 2 shot lead and makes tripple - yep thats a choke, NO arguement whatsoever (the french guy Vandervelt did something like)
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Thats when you do go conservative - I think he took an agressive approach when he didnt need to


Its odd on 16, 17 , 18 he took a conservative approach, I then ask the question, DID it work by being conservative? History tells us it didn't! Now I agree and hey I might be wrong (every chance I am) but I maintain what he did didnt work. Driver would have put him past the bunkers as the commentators noted and I agreed with them

He was being conservative for much of the round (as someone lese pointed out he missed putts short) he was trying to be conservative (3 putts out of 10 you hard enough go in -as he old saying goes short putts never go in. Is that choking? I dont know. When I leave a putt short I feel I misread it not choked.

on the other days he attacked, yes the wind was up and thats a factor. But on 16 hes was very conservative on each shot and still MADE BOGEY. So one needs to ask was that the right strategy? if the answer is yes thats fine also. BUT IMO it wasn't.

I feel at some point over the last 3 holes he needed to be brave and attack a hole and the best oppurtunity was 16, short par 4 downwind - very reachable by his length, even if he misses the green he makes par more than likely.

Im not being critical of him, I feel saying he choked is being very critical of him

If he did choke whats the opposite of a choke? For ever menatl reaction to choking there has to be an opposite reaction

one would think ant choke would be bravery. Is it not

have t head of to my crazy work now, check back later.

I ask these 2 questions, Did his conservative appaorch work?

and whats the opposite to a choke?

[dave1]

That may be construed as abusive but the fact that the term "choke" has to be spelled out to you and you still can't comprehend it properly proves that you are, in fact, an idiot. There is no way in hell that a field of 119 players (or however many it was) "choked" because one guy won it. That's the most ridiculous thing I've read. Scott was in a very commanding position and lost. The main definition of "choking".

And P.S. Strategy is what got Scott in the position to win it in the first place. He continued with the strategy which was a conservative one, had he gunned driver all tournament like you suggest he probably would have lost 5 balls in the long rough and not made the cut. These guys know what they are doing. They know their percentages.

yeah and the so called % play failed

thats why Im asking the question?

[PeteyD]

It is golf. Sometimes the ball just bounces wrong. Your other question has been answered, Please read replies.

[rubin]

have to agree with Lefty here.

Dave you are either incredibly stupid, or incredibly ignorant. I'm going to give u the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

Your points have been proven to be wrong and/or misguided already, and your questions have been answered numerous times. Perhaps read the thread instead of asking the same crap over and over and over again.

[Lobsta]

What's Yoss's favourite food?

[Dotty]

What's Yoss's favourite food?
Ham sandwich.

But Mama Cass didn't choke on one of these either.

[Webster]

Dave1, do you have everyone on ignore?

[PerryGroves]

have to agree with Lefty here.

Dave you are either incredibly stupid, or incredibly ignorant. I'm going to give u the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

Your points have been proven to be wrong and/or misguided already, and your questions have been answered numerous times. Perhaps read the thread instead of asking the same crap over and over and over again.

Did I miss the memo, someone died and now you are in charge?

Dave1, stay strong brother, I love your work.