NRL Season 2013

[sms316]

Please, no posting in this thread until the only thing your team has to look forward to is next year.

[WBennett]

Start a thread for Season 2017. The Raiders may (and just may) have accepted Dave Furner is rubbish by then and sacked him. That would also mean John McIntyre is no longer involved, so its either 2017 or once he kicks the bucket...

[mudrat]

I think my Eels qualify for this..

[mike]

Please, no posting in this thread until the only thing your team has to look forward to is next year.Go Dragons !!

[Eldrick]

Reporting in

[Bruce]

Jeeze Louise!

How am I supposed to setup a thread bomb when you go this early!!!

[3oneday]

I'll be back, 2nd or 3rd week of finals ;)

[mike]

When do they release the draw?

[Eldrick]

quick delete my post.we're back baby!

[mudrat]

+1 lol

[sms316]

Can someone hire a hitman on Furner so there is hope for 2013?

[Jarro]

Can someone hire a hitman on Furner so there is hope for 2013?

After you beat us on sunday, they'll probably give him a lifetime gig.

[dc68]

OK so the 2012 thread is dead to me now so I guess this is the place to be.


The Broncos management droning on about promotion from within/working with what we have/blah blah blah is shitting me.
If there is talent on the market in a position we need improvement in you have to go for it. It starts with halfback, Wallace
is a 5/8 FFS. Daly Two-Dads would be the preference but I would even go so far as grab Sandow if Parra want to flick him.
Josh Hoffman is too slow for a fullback in todays game, line him up with all the other FBs and I reckon he would not even be
within 10m over 100. You need someone dynamic at the back!!!!! Get rid of Sammy as Captain it's just not working.... How they
let Teo go is beyond me...... dummies.

[dc68]

Please, no posting in this thread until the only thing your team has to look forward to is next year.



Furner has the job for life!!!!!!

[Courty]

Titans... they've made a couple of big signings in Idris & Dave Taylor, but geez they could have picked some blokes with more discipline. :roll:

[dc68]

They will go to Maccas and KFC together all the time...... If I see them there I will let you know.

[TheNuclearOne]

Taylor is the most penalised forward in the game they say. He is dumb as an ox, and then some. Great talent but those penalties. I notice lately he's starting to get involved in niggle he used to stay clear of.

[popper81]

OK so the 2012 thread is dead to me now so I guess this is the place to be.


The Broncos management droning on about promotion from within/working with what we have/blah blah blah is shitting me.
If there is talent on the market in a position we need improvement in you have to go for it. It starts with halfback, Wallace
is a 5/8 FFS. Daly Two-Dads would be the preference but I would even go so far as grab Sandow if Parra want to flick him.
Josh Hoffman is too slow for a fullback in todays game, line him up with all the other FBs and I reckon he would not even be
within 10m over 100. You need someone dynamic at the back!!!!! Get rid of Sammy as Captain it's just not working.... How they
let Teo go is beyond me...... dummies.

This thread will start to liven up soon.. ;)

I agree, and it's funny that we all think Wallace is better suited to 6 than 7 now. I think it gives him the option to be a bit more selective when he pops up. Hunt is a 7, and has made a good fist of it in toyota cup. I would rather him over Sandow. Two dads is worth chasing though.

[Jarro]

Hunt and Wallace have to be the starting halves next year.

Hunt is a great halfback, very creative, so he should be given the chance to prove that from the get-go next season.

Norman needs more time at fullback, where he's best suited IMO.

We have the forward strikepower (when they're in form and not injured) so we're ok there... we just need to get our playmaker options sorted out.

[TheTrueReview]

Titans... they've made a couple of big signings in Idris & Dave Taylor, but geez they could have picked some blokes with more discipline. :roll: I'm sure Nate Myles could've passed on some of his tips about self discipline.

[dc68]

I'm sure Nate Myles could've passed on some of his tips about self discipline. I am sure he could. He's really turned himself around and is showing how good a player he is. I can't recall one "incident" since he arrived at the Titans.

[mike]

Nate Myles. Provided the highlight of an otherwised totally fkd up season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eInrCIbco

Legend.

[Captain Nemo]

Titans... they've made a couple of big signings in Idris & Dave Taylor, but geez they could have picked some blokes with more discipline. :roll:
Best sell ever....:lol:

[PeteyD]

Nate Myles. Provided the highlight of an otherwised totally fkd up season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eInrCIbco

Legend.

It was. Funny stuff and stopped the vas legs stupidity.

[dc68]

So I reckon the Tigers have to start as faves again next season.... Thoughts?

[Marto65]

So I reckon the Tigers have to start as faves again next season.... Thoughts?

Absolutely ... the handled it so well this year ..

[Captain Nemo]

Absolutely ... the handled it so well this year ..

Sound's good to me!
Ill have another $100 on them not to make the 8 like i did this year.....:lol:

[Dude, Where's my Par?]

When does Gus start at the Panther's?
they'd have to be certs to kill it when he arrives.... he is a footballing genius

what's that, he's already there, was there this year, and they just missed the wooden spoon?
oh dear

[Courty]

When does Gus start at the Panther's? they'd have to be certs to kill it when he arrives.... he is a footballing genius what's that, he's already there, was there this year, and they just missed the wooden spoon? oh dear :lol:

[Marto65]

Gus hasnt figured out a way to get the Solarman Curse off him yet.

[dc68]

Where is Marto and the other Manly grubs?

[jaybam]

Give them another 13mins and they will be here.

[Marto65]

Im here guys. What's goin down?

[dc68]

Manly....

[PeteyD]

Can anyone explain why the tigers were favourites this year?

[Marto65]

Awesome. Drink anyone? It is mad Saturday.

[popper81]

Awesome. Drink anyone? It is mad Saturday. You should be pissed already, don't you play skulls every time Matai goes down injured?

[TheTrueReview]

Can anyone explain why the tigers were favourites this year? Tim Sheens Coach & Benji Marshal Captain. IMO their shortcoming is in the forward pack. .

[PeteyD]

After they lost half of their forward pack to the sharks. No depth to cover Ellis being injured for half the season ...

No way they should have been favourites.

[goonie]

You should be pissed already, don't you play skulls every time Matai goes down injured?

So skulls every dropped ball would have to much :eek:

[Peter]

After they lost half of their forward pack to the sharks.Don't you mean 'gave away half their forward pack to the Sharks'?

[Jarro]

Don't you mean 'gave away half their forward pack to the Sharks'?

They've got Braith coming though, so everything will be OK :roll:

[Tongueboy]

Good morning!

[dc68]

Welcome TB.

[Marto65]

I was hoping not to see you until next week, tongue boy.

[popper81]

What is everyone doing next Sunday night... Movies?

[jaybam]

Working mate. :)

[popper81]

If you're busy, I guess that means Lager is busy as well ;)

[Jarro]

What is everyone doing next Sunday night... Movies?

I'll be cheering on the Storm :D

[Marto65]

I think I'm turning to Islam.

[jaybam]

Nah your all ****ed next year. We got Ricky. I reason we can go back to back for the spoon. At least we beat Broncos storm and manly this year lol

[Tongueboy]

I was hoping not to see you until next week, tongue boy.

same here!:(

not a bad year though.

[Fraser]

I'll be cheering on the Storm :D

same

[TheNuclearOne]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/coach-tim-sheens-quits-wests-tigers-after-10-years-in-charge/story-fndv39ms-1226480601339

[Jarro]

Can't see them being named favourites next year

[PeteyD]

Thankfully.

[Marto65]

Are you kidding ... Tim Sheens has been holding them back .... of course they'll be the favourites.

[Jarro]

Braith Anasta is heading their way.

They've got no chance :lol:

[Courty]

Can't see them being named favourites next year

That's all about to change... I hear a rumour that dc68 will be coach next year. ;)

[dc68]

Wanker....

[Jarro]

Beers after training

[dc68]

What's training?

[popper81]

That's all about to change... I hear a rumour that dc68 will be coach next year. ;)

Well done, DAD..... I am so glad you didn't take the job at Parra now ;)

[TheTrueReview]

Braith Anasta is heading their way. Imagine how he'd be feeling right now.

[PeteyD]

Lucky to have a contract.

[Jarro]

Imagine how he'd be feeling right now.

Probably not really happy ..... kind of like Heighington and Ryan i'd imagine.

[TheTrueReview]

Probably not really happy ..... kind of like Heighington and Ryan i'd imagine. To be frank, I can understand the puzzle over Ryan but I would move Heighington on. IMO he's not fast enough. Locks need to be very mobile. Many are ex-centres. Poor Chris doesn't get out of first gear.

[Jarro]

To be frank, I can understand the puzzle over Ryan but I would move Heighington on. IMO he's not fast enough. Locks need to be very mobile. Many are ex-centres. Poor Chris doesn't get out of first gear.

Yeah you're probably right .... he does seem like a plodder.

I'm not 100% sure though, but i seem to recall the plan for Anasta was to play lock ??

Wonder if that'll change now with a change of coach ?

[dc68]

Are we there yet?

[Jarro]

James Graham won't be there for a while at least

[3oneday]

Not sure what it is with Dogs and biting, actually maybe I just answered my own question :)

[Jarro]

I think you just did ;)

[Fraser]

think this room needs to painted purple

[timah!]

think this room needs to painted purple

Absolutely...

[mudrat]

think this room needs to painted purple

This is the 2013 thread go back to the 2012 thread where you belong.......

[timah!]

We're the premiers until the end of the 2013 season, get used to it...
:B

[Eldrick]

meh. in this thread Parra are undefeated

[Fraser]

We're the premiers until the end of the 2013 season, get used to it...
:B

yeah, get used to it muppet

[PerryGroves]

We're the premiers until the end of the 2013 season, get used to it...
:B

This been audited yet?

[timah!]

This been audited yet?

Nah, they're using all their resources to enquire as to why Manly sucked harder than the Fagqueens in the finals series...

;)

[popper81]

God I hope the storm don't go back to back..... :(

[timah!]

Don't be hatin'

[Jarro]

Former Penrith Panthers coach Matt Elliott to coach Warriors for next two seasons

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/former-penrith-panthers-coach-matt-elliott-to-coach-warriors-for-next-two-seasons-report/story-fn2mcuj6-1226493692546

[sms316]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/former-penrith-panthers-coach-matt-elliott-to-coach-warriors-for-next-two-seasons-report/story-fn2mcuj6-1226493692546
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - kick.

(repeat for 80 mins).

[Jarro]

Hopefully that's not going to be the case..... The Warriors have too much talent to play that sort of game.

[sms316]

It has been his method in the past. Works fine when other teams aren't handling well, but falls short against good teams.

[TheTrueReview]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - kick.

(repeat for 80 mins).


It has been his method in the past. Works fine when other teams aren't handling well, but falls short against good teams.

Blame Warren Ryan from the late 80s. He was the first of the technical coaches that reduced the game to its essential elements. Phil Gould followed in his footsteps. It works. Directly modelled on the technical analysis utilised by the gridiron coaches.

[sms316]

Blame Warren Ryan from the late 80s. He was the first of the technical coaches that reduced the game to its essential elements. Phil Gould followed in his footsteps. It works. Directly modelled on the technical analysis utilised by the gridiron coaches.
It only works for Elliott's teams in the past to sneak into the eight or thereabouts.

[PeteyD]

Most teams do the 1,2,3,4,5 kick until the other team makes a mistake or it is the last 5 minutes.

[Dude, Where's my Par?]

some teams even do 1,2,3 error - handover
defend 1,2,3,4 penalty, repeat set, defend 1,2,3,4,5 kick in goal, repeat set
......
1,2,3,4 error - handover .... (repeat for 80 minutes.)

[Jarro]

http://www.nrl.com/harrigan-doubts-future-of-nrl-benefit-rule/tabid/10874/newsid/70232/default.aspx

[TheNuclearOne]

Not before time!


http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/bill-harrigan-and-stuart-raper-sacked/story-fndujljl-1226504037922

[Jarro]

Not before time!


http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/bill-harrigan-and-stuart-raper-sacked/story-fndujljl-1226504037922

WooHoo !!!!!!

[Jarro]

Prince eyes deal with Broncos after rejecting Hull

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/prince-eyes-deal-with-broncos-after-rejecting-hull-20121031-28il6.html

[sms316]

Will Hodges be disappoint at not being the biggest cat in the team?

[Jarro]

You could always ask him yourself

[rowey]

Just heard that Scotty Prince has left the Titans & signed with another Aussie club, Brisbane & St.George were the clubs mentioned..............

Hope he hasn't signed with the Broncos..........or it might just be a gap filler before they make a big play for Thurston.

Any thoughts

[TheTrueReview]

Just heard that Scotty Prince has left the Titans & signed with another Aussie club, Brisbane & St.George were the clubs mentioned..............

Hope he hasn't signed with the Broncos..........or it might just be a gap filler before they make a big play for Thurston.

Any thoughts

The Knights are reportedly (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/broncos-and-knights-emerge-as-contenders-for-scott-prince-after-titans-grant-him-a-release/story-e6frep5x-1226507376079) in the mix as well.

[sms316]

The Knights are reportedly (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/broncos-and-knights-emerge-as-contenders-for-scott-prince-after-titans-grant-him-a-release/story-e6frep5x-1226507376079) in the mix as well. Not anymore. Signed with Brisbane.

[TheTrueReview]

Not anymore. Signed with Brisbane.

Correct. Broncos news release just received.

"PRINCE TO BE A BRONCO AGAIN
The NRMA Insurance Broncos have today agreed to a two-year deal that will bring Scott Prince back to the club he last played with in 2003.

Prince, who played with the Broncos between stints with the Cowboys, Tigers and Titans, will be back in a maroon and gold jersey for the 2013 and 2014 seasons.

The Titans gave the 32-year-old a release from the final year of his contract yesterday, with the included severance package providing the opportunity for the Broncos to ink Prince’s signature.

Prince has played 278 NRL matches, 29 of them with the Broncos between 2001 and 2003.

He will begin training with the Broncos when pre-season starts on Monday."

[Eldrick]

inked a 2 year deal today

[Jarro]

He'll be good for us.

We've lacked a bit of experience in the halves lately.

[TheTrueReview]

He'll be good for us.

We've lacked a bit of experience in the halves lately.

+ 1. A very good buy. :)

[PerryGroves]

He'll be good for us.

We've lacked a bit of experience in the halves lately.

So he replaces Wallace who is a 150 gamer and SOO player?

Lockyer's retirement didn't exactly come as a shock, so there was ample time to groom someone. Think it is more competence than experience you were lacking. Hopefully Prince provides more than another of yesterdays heroes Matt Awful did.

[Courty]

Perhaps they'll play Wallace at 5/8th?

[sms316]

I would have thought it would be the other way around.

[Jarro]

Perhaps they'll play Wallace at 5/8th?

I hope they do.

[mike]

Prince is a dickhead. He'll fit in well at the broncos.

[Jarro]

Prince is a dickhead. He'll fit in well at the broncos.

I think he really wanted to go to the dragons.

[mike]

Dragons have a no dickhead policy so that was never gonna happen.

[ddasey]

Dragons have a no dickhead policy so that was never gonna happen.

They more than make up for it with their supporters

:mrgreen:

[timah!]

Dragons have a no dickhead policy so that was never gonna happen.

Jamie sowturd managed to slip through ;)

[Eag's]

They more than make up for it with their supporters

:mrgreen:

Oi!!

[mike]

Lol you guys are so predictable.

[rowey]

Like I said previous, Prince will be a gap fill before they make a big play & sign Thurston later on....

[Captain Nemo]

Prince is a dickhead. He'll fit in well at the broncos.

Agree.
Overratted, overpaid has-been.
Should have gone to England.

[Jarro]

So much hate :roll:

[Captain Nemo]

No hate, just the truth.
If he was any good, G.C would have kept him.
They will run last, actually prob a good bet, get on.....:lol:

[Eag's]

Going by what I have read about Prince going to the Broncos, it seems even Griffin was not all that keen on him joining them.
Prince is way past his best at the age of 33, I thought the Broncos would have chased a young up and comer for the postion?

[Eldrick]

there will be plenty of club accounts looking at their salary caps and seeing how much coin they can throw at Folau now that he is leaving AFL
rumours that my Eels are heavily in the mix,he played Juniors with Hayne which my help our cause

[sms316]

there will be plenty of club accounts looking at their salary caps and seeing how much coin they can throw at Folau now that he is leaving AFLrumours that my Eels are heavily in the mix,he played Juniors with Hayne which my help our cause Ah yes. Where is Minto? THAT'S IN QUEENSLAND!

[Jarro]

Cool... he'll be straight back on the wing for the mighty maroons !!

[WBennett]

Izzy Folau to Parramatta. Stay tuned for the 4pm press conference.

[Captain Nemo]

Cool... he'll be straight back on the wing for the mighty maroons !!

Now that he's a skinny lightweight, Uate or Morris will pick him up and throw him around ala Tallis on Hodgson.....:lol:

[Jarro]

Now that he's a skinny lightweight, Uate or Morris will pick him up and throw him around ala Tallis on Hodgson.....:lol:

Sure thing Ricky :D

[Captain Nemo]

:wink:

[3Puttpete]

there will be plenty of club accounts looking at their salary caps and seeing how much coin they can throw at Folau now that he is leaving AFLrumours that my Eels are heavily in the mix,he played Juniors with Hayne which my help our cause Is his brother at the Eels? He'd have more pull (no homo) than Hayne

[Eldrick]

yeah he is. not sure how far away from 1st grade he is

[dc68]

David Stagg signed by the Broncos for 2 years. Could be Better value than Prince.

[popper81]

David Stagg signed by the Broncos for 2 years. Could be Better value than Prince. Stagg is a much better buy... being that we have gotten both at good value though... Can't really complain. Hope Hunt hangs around though ;)

[Jarro]

Stagg is a much better buy... being that we have gotten both at good value though... Can't really complain. Hope Hunt hangs around though ;)

Yeah i hope Hunt stays around too .... he should be our #7 now, but we seem to persist with Wallace there :roll:

Stagg will be good value. A good worker who can ballplay a bit as well.

[popper81]

If Stagg stays fit he will start playing 80mins again, and be a workhorse in defence... The only people that people that will complain are those that have Corey Parker in their dream team sides.. ( less work, less points)

I think Parker might play a bit wider, take over the role Teo had ( similar to lines he ran origin), all bit it, with out the potency that Teo had.. It will free Parker up on attack a little more, taking pressure of Thaiday etc with go forward.( something we really lacked, considering the size of our pack, over the back half of last year)

[Captain Nemo]

Stagg is a great buy!
I'd rather have him than that marshmallow T-Rex!

[mike]

Imagine a T-Rex with the heart of Stagg. What a player that would be.

[Captain Nemo]

Not going to happen me thinks....

[Ned]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/veteran-journalist-phil-rothfield-names-the-top-50-issues-facing-rugby-league-at-the-moment/story-e6frf3ou-1226510373478

[TheNuclearOne]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/veteran-journalist-phil-rothfield-names-the-top-50-issues-facing-rugby-league-at-the-moment/story-e6frf3ou-1226510373478

Classic stuff.

[Jarro]

51. Sack Dil Slothfield :roll:

[mike]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/veteran-journalist-phil-rothfield-names-the-top-50-issues-facing-rugby-league-at-the-moment/story-e6frf3ou-1226510373478Did not read. Rothfield is a fking idiot.

[PerryGroves]

About all he got wrong was No. 50. And of course the Broncos should be able to play whenever they feel like it.

[Eag's]

Stagg is a great signing for the Ponies, works his arse off in defence and he plays 80 mins most games.

[TheTrueReview]

Stagg is a great signing for the Ponies, works his arse off in defence and he plays 80 mins most games.

Yep, every premiership winning team will have a workhorse who grinds away each week without the limelight.

[popper81]

2013 is now year of the bronco according to SMS?

[sms316]

Seems to be. Every Friday will be anyway.

[Jarro]

Feeling a bit left out are we ??

[timah!]

2013 is now year of the bronco according to SMS?

I hope the broncos are told. Be embarrassing for them to serve up the same old same old...

;)

[popper81]

I hope the broncos are told. Be embarrassing for them to serve up the same old same old...;) Thanks Mike ;)

[timah!]

Thanks Mike ;)

Pleasure...

20565

[Marto65]

Pleasure...

20565

I love the witty retort from winners ...

[timah!]

I love the witty retort from winners ...

Thanks. I'll be here all year :D

[mike]

Pleasure...

20565
Pfft. That is so last season.

[PeteyD]

I think you underestimate the value Prince will be to the broncos. With 2 playmakers again the team will be a lot stronger. Stagg is a great signing.

[Jarro]

Spot on Pedro 8)

[Marto65]

Really .... I don't know why the Broncos Supporters are still in this thread.

Go straight to 2015. Do not pass go. Do not collect a second contract filled with pokies money.

[dc68]

Pfft.

[KristianJ]

It's alright for them to hope a little. Sharks supporters have done so for 45 years.

[popper81]

Really .... I don't know why the Broncos Supporters are still in this thread. Go straight to 2015. Do not pass go. Do not collect a second contract filled with pokies money. Marto, Marto, Marto my short hitting friend...... Your boys are red hots for missing the 8 this year..... Toovey is NACA, and your forwards are old and slow. Expect your wheels to fall off early on, and the club to implode somewhere after origin 3. Love popper!!

[timah!]

Pfft. That is so last season.

You're welcome...


Really .... I don't know why the Broncos Supporters are still in this thread.

Go straight to 2015. Do not pass go. Do not collect a second contract filled with pokies money.

:lol:

[Tongueboy]

Andrew Johns assistant coach at Manly!

[TheNuclearOne]

A very fitting association.

[Jarro]

Andrew Johns assistant coach at Manly!

Does that mean they'll now be expected to blow the opposition away ?

[sms316]

Does that mean they'll now be expected to blow the opposition away ? Is Ian Roberts there as well?

[rowey]

Andrew Johns assistant coach at Manly!

Brad Arthur is the Assistant Coach at Manly, he came from Parra via Melbounre. Coached Storm U/20's to Premiership in 2010, A-Grade asst 2011, Parra asst, Head Coach for last 6 games in 2012.

He will be knocking on the door for a first grade coaching spot should one become available during the year, got down to final 3 for the Tigers job.

I think Johns is doing some consultant work with Manly.

[Jarro]

Brad Arthur is the Assistant Coach at Manly, he came from Parra via Melbounre. Coached Storm U/20's to Premiership in 2010, A-Grade asst 2011, Parra asst, Head Coach for last 6 games in 2012.

He will be knocking on the door for a first grade coaching spot should one become available during the year, got down to final 3 for the Tigers job.

I think Johns is doing some consultant work with Manly.

I think you'll find he's been appointed to a more full-time role now.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/andrew-johnss-first-foray-into-coaching-begins-with-manly-signing-the-immortal-as-a-specialist-coach/story-fn2mcuj6-1226511623358

[rowey]

Yeah true Jarro, but it is still only a part-time role with the club, he will still be an asset for the club either way.

[PeteyD]

Yeah true Jarro, but it is still only a part-time role with the club, he will still be an ass either way.

Too true!

[mike]

He may be an ass but he's an immortal ass.

[mike]

... and the best halfback I've ever seen.

[rowey]

both debatable Mike...........

I don't think he should have been the last Immortal, when you look at the way it is selected & by who selected it,It is becoming a joke.

[mike]

The whole immortal thing is a RLW wank anyway.

Still the best half I've seen. Daylight second and the Alfie.

btw Alfie is a complete dickhead.

[mike]

Yep. One of the originals I think. I saw Artie play. Just brilliant.

[Tongueboy]

Is Arthur Beetson an Immortal?

[sms316]

Alf wasn't half the ****knuckle that I expected him to be. Quite a decent bloke actually.

[sms316]

Yep. One of the originals I think. I saw Artie play. Just brilliant. Beetson went in with Langlands as #5 and #6.

[Marto65]

Beetson went in with Langlands as #5 and #6.

I'd never play Beetson on the wing ... :)

[Tongueboy]

you can't be immortal if you are dead?

[mike]

you can't be immortal if you are dead? Fair point. Beetson should hand his trophy back.

[Jarro]

Lockyer should be the next immortal (after Mal.... who should've been before Johns))

[sms316]

Lockyer should be the next immortal (after Mal.... who should've been before Johns)) Mal wasn't even the best player in his team. No way he should be an immortal.

[Jarro]

He played more games, and scored more points for his country than Johns did.

I'm sure Daley/Stuart/Furner/Clyde/Belcher/Sheens/Bennett all think he'd be worthy.

[sms316]

He played more games, and scored more points for his country than Johns did.I'm sure Daley/Stuart/Furner/Clyde/Belcher/Sheens/Bennett all think he'd be worthy. Maybe there was less competition for centres back then? He was bloody handy, but I can't see him as being in the absolute top echelon.

[Jarro]

I suppose the people they should be asking are the players that played against him.

I can't recall many saying they liked playing against him, while everyone was glad he was on their side.

[sms316]

I suppose the people they should be asking are the players that played against him.I can't recall many saying they liked playing against him, while everyone was glad he was on their side. They probably said the same thing about John Hopoate. ;)

[Sydney Hacker]

I have spoken to a few who did play against him and while they were very complimentary they basically said he was a battering ram. Daley on the other hand was the one they were all worried about and spent most of the time focusing on shutting down his scheming.

[Jarro]

Yet Daley always had the awesome option of throwing it out wide to Mal.

If he didn't, he might have been closed down a lot more than he was.

A good ballplayer is only as good as his ballrunners.

Just ask D.Lockyer :roll:

[mike]

Mal wasn't even the best player in his team. No way he should be an immortal.Agree. I just don't get the push for Mal. He was simply a cog in possibly the best club side in the history of the game. Anybody would have looked good in that team. That's the same squad that gave Tim Doofus Sheens the 'master coach' tag. ffs, my grandma could have coached that team to a premiership.



He played more games, and scored more points for his country than Johns did.
Whoopdy doo. Means fk all.

[mike]

Les Boyd should be made an immortal for breaking Brohman's jaw.

[PerryGroves]

Lockyer should be the next immortal (after Mal.... who should've been before Johns))

Perhaps we could parade a new Queensland immortal every Friday night before the Broncos game.

[Jarro]

Perhaps we could parade a new Queensland immortal every Friday night before the Broncos game.

Sterling idea !!

I love friday nights :)

[PerryGroves]

Perhaps we could parade a new Queensland immortal every Friday night before the Broncos game.


Sterling idea !!

I love friday nights :)

Arise Sir Wally Fullerton-Smith

[Sydney Hacker]

Perhaps we could parade a new Queensland immortal every Friday night before the Broncos game.How many Qldrs vs. NSW's players are their in the immortals? Just another NSW conspiracy to hold the mighty maroons down!

[Sydney Hacker]

Sterling idea !!Sterling... just another Qldr forced to wear a maggots jersey ;)

[popper81]

Perhaps we could parade a new Queensland immortal every Friday night before the Broncos game. Hahaha.....%^**wit!

[sms316]

Shock horror. Broncos to get the first Friday night game against Manly. Something about celebrating the 25th anniversary of a bloke who pissed on the field in the Broncos first game.

[Sydney Hacker]

Just giving the people what they want to see...

[Jarro]

Just giving the people what they want to see...

Yep.

Ratings rule the NRL draw.

Get over it :p

[PeteyD]

There was talk about the boncos having 17 friday games or some such crap. Love you too channel nein. hope the receivers sell off the NRL rights ... ;)

[Jarro]

As a Broncos fan, i hope we don't get a lot of friday night games again in 2013.

I'd like to be able to take my kids to a few Sunday arvo games :roll:

[sms316]

Thank Christ I work every Friday night - even if it is at Hell.

[Ronny]

That's what you get when ch9 runs the game. How us it that Afl can stipulate conditions and still get a billion dollar deal yet league has to bend over to 9 and give then whatever they want!

[Jarro]

That's what you get when ch9 runs the game. How us it that Afl can stipulate conditions and still get a billion dollar deal yet league has to bend over to 9 and give then whatever they want!

It's certainly not an ideal scenario i agree.

[PeteyD]

Because when Channel 9 took over the rights for league they were desperate, basically begging for someone to show the game. How that mentality has been maintained in the intervening years is beyond me.

[KristianJ]

As a Broncos fan, i hope we don't get a lot of friday night games again in 2013.

I'd like to be able to take my kids to a few Sunday arvo games :roll:

2pm on Sundays at Skilled Park?

[Jarro]

2pm on Sundays at Skilled Park?

Pfft ... no chance :roll:

[rowey]

Maybe there was less competition for centres back then? He was bloody handy, but I can't see him as being in the absolute top echelon.

sms316,

If he was not the best centre in the game when he played,can you inform us who was.....you don't play that many Tests & Captain your Country playing as a retard.

Meninga has done more for rugby league in playing, development & coaching than Johns will ever do.

[KristianJ]

Pfft ... no chance :roll:

You're right...the Raiders seem to have a mortgage on that game time, come to think of it.

[rowey]

Guys,

I will start a thread so we can name our best 17 players starting from 1980 to current, in playing order.

Just to see what we come up with.

Cheers

Rowey

[sms316]

sms316,If he was not the best centre in the game when he played,can you inform us who was.....you don't play that many Tests & Captain your Country playing as a retard.Meninga has done more for rugby league in playing, development & coaching than Johns will ever do.Where did I say that he wasn't the best centre running around at the time?

I said that there might not have been too much competition in the centres. A quick check shows that in the early 1990s, Origin centres were Mark McGaw, Peter Jackson, Laurie Daley, Brad Fittler and Steve Renouf. Handy players but hardly in Meninga's class.

And don't start me about Meninga's coaching. He set some impressive standards at Canberra. It is also commonly known that he doesn't exactly run the show for Qld either. Neil Henry and Michael Hagan have done more than Mal.

[mike]

^^ All good points.

Andrew Ettingshausen was twice the centre Meninga was. There you go.

[mike]

Guys,

I will start a thread so we can name our best 17 players starting from 1980 to current, in playing order.

Just to see what we come up with.

Cheers

RoweyDo it rowey. Should be interesting.

[popper81]

^^ All good points.Andrew Ettingshausen was twice the centre Meninga was. There you go. Cooper and Gasiner would both run rings around them....:)

[rowey]

sms316,

The players you have listed were pretty handy, some a bit more than others. But in my opinion they are not in the same class as Meninga.

As for his coaching, he did set some impressive standards at the Raiders, those standards he has taken to the QRL Origin side, when you look at the BIG picture, you wouldn't have to do a real lot with the players he has available. You get them when they are fit, then all you have to do is bond them as a TEAM. Something that NSW has trouble doing.

As for his assistant coaches, I have worked with Neil Henry personally through my involvement with Junior League & he is a very smart coach.

When you look at all the coaches league has had, how many of the VG players have made VG coaches & how many of the VG coaches were VG players.

[rowey]

^^ All good points.

Andrew Ettingshausen was twice the centre Meninga was. There you go.

Mike,

Didn't ET start out on the pick & swing.

You don't class wingers as footballers................lol

[sms316]

Perhaps you missed the sarcasm when I said he set impressive standards coaching at Canberra. It was better than his political career though.

[mike]

Cooper and Gasiner would both run rings around them....:)Have you come out of the closet?

fwiw neither Cooper or Gaz were within a bull's roar of ET.

Re. Meninga, without thinking too hard I rate ET, Cronin and Rogers waaaay better players than Mal. Mal was good but not one of the greats.

[mike]

Mike,

Didn't ET start out on the pick & swing.

You don't class wingers as footballers................lolMost centres started 1st grade on the wing.

[mike]

Perhaps you missed the sarcasm when I said he set impressive standards coaching at Canberra. It was better than his political career though.Wasn't it hilarious.

*searching for youtube clip*

[sms316]

Have you come out of the closet?fwiw neither Cooper or Gaz were within a bull's roar of ET.Re. Meninga, without thinking too hard I rate ET, Cronin and Rogers waaaay better players than Mal. Mal was good but not one of the greats. Geez we are agreeing a lot today mike. When we are talking the best 7 or 8 players of all time, some very bloody good players are going to miss out. Mal included.

[popper81]

Have you come out of the closet?fwiw neither Cooper or Gaz were within a bull's roar of ET.Re. Meninga, without thinking too hard I rate ET, Cronin and Rogers waaaay better players than Mal. Mal was good but not one of the greats. A closet.... Would have to be a full walk in.... I think I needed different coloured font!

[mike]

Haha. Political career lasted 24 seconds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79LaIL6x5d0

Anyway let's get back on topic.

[mike]

Geez we are agreeing a lot today mike. I was thinking the same. I'm off to post in the "Things that concern you" thread.

[rowey]

Most centres started 1st grade on the wing.

Did they..

[TheNuclearOne]

Guys,

I will start a thread so we can name our best 17 players starting from 1980 to current, in playing order.

Just to see what we come up with.

Cheers

Rowey

I used to love knocking one up from about 1990 to late 90's. Used to debate with the mates.

It was something like

Glenn Lazarus
Steve Walters
Paul Harragon
Gordon Tallis
Bob Linder (1990 kangaroo tour pre another broken leg)
Brad Clyde
Wally Lewis (best days gone, eeks in or it's Daley and possibly Stuart simply due to combination)
Allan Langer
Willie Carne (pre 936 head knocks best winger in the game, never any good again)
Mal Meninga
Andrew Ettingshausen (or Renouf or Daley)
Matt Rogers (ify maybe as both are right wingers, could flip Wishart in)
Darren Lockyer (Mullins was a candidate)

Homo/Sirro/Fittler-Daley/Walters

I'm considering Johns more the 2000's and looking at combination in the halves anyway.

[rowey]

Guys,

Intead of naming a team from 1980 until now, lets do it in year blocks starting from 1980-1990 & then go in 10yr blocks.

Fire away

[mike]

Did they..Yep.

ET, Matt Cooper, even Ben Creagh. There's plenty more. Wing is a stepping stone.

[rowey]

Please Mike,

We are talking about good centres & players with some ticker.................Cooper please

[timah!]

This thread has clearly gone off track.

Just so you're all reminded again:

20604

[mike]

Shut up Timah!



Please Mike,

We are talking about good centres & players with some ticker.................Cooper pleaseYou don't rate Cooper? I thought you knew better.

Anyhow here's a few 'greats' that started their first grade career on the wing.
ET
Inglis
Slater
Minichiello
Mullins

Shall I go on?


Guys,

Intead of naming a team from 1980 until now, lets do it in year blocks starting from 1980-1990 & then go in 10yr blocks.

Fire awayBlow that. Too much work.

Here's 1980 to present

1. Slater
2 Grothe
3. ET
4. Inglis
5. Mullins
6. Lockyer
7. Johns
8. Harragon
9. Cam Smith (my god it hurts to type that)
10. Webke
11. Menzies
12. Boyd
13. Clyde

14. Sirro
15. Wiki
16. Dean Pay
17. Wally

[popper81]

Dean pay surprises me...Also, no laz?

Menzies was a Cat...

[mike]

Dean Pay was the toughest bastard I ever saw play this game. Menzies was a freak. Best ball running forward ever. And Laz? pfft. Pay broke his sternum in a major semi one year. Who's the cat?

[PeteyD]

Menzies was still tearing em apart in England at 40 or something. Only issue I had with him was the Manly thing.

[mike]

I stopped hating Manly in 1988.

[TheTrueReview]

Menzies was still tearing em apart in England at 40 or something.

He was great running off Cliffy Lyons.

Menzies, Gartner, Kosef. Best backrow ever.

[rowey]

Les Davidson & Bob Lindner were tough players, Menzies had a heart the size of a Rozella parrot, Lazarus was the best Front Rower & I still hate Manly

[popper81]

Dean Pay was the toughest bastard I ever saw play this game. Menzies was a freak. Best ball running forward ever. And Laz? pfft. Pay broke his sternum in a major semi one year. Who's the cat? Creagh is the CAT, but he just learnt his antics from puff kitty Menzies

[mike]

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t325/yumbotto/icon_blahblah.gif

Why no more lists? C'mon people.

[popper81]

Why no more lists? C'mon people. I am busy, and on my phone... Be patient!

[Jarro]

Tallis was a much better backrower than Boyd.

[mike]

No he wasn't.

[dc68]

Why no more lists? C'mon people.

Make a new thread Mike don't clog up this one with lists. It's about the 2013 season not living in the past.

[timah!]

Make a new thread Mike don't clog up this one with lists. It's about the 2013 season not living in the past.

Deep down mike knows he doesn't have anything to look forward to in the 2013 season...

[mike]

Make a new thread Mike don't clog up this one with lists. It's about the 2013 season not living in the past.Since when did you make the rules? Rowey started a discussion, I followed it up. Here's a list of all the teams I hate more than the Broncos. 1) Storm.

[mike]

Deep down mike knows he doesn't have anything to look forward to in the 2013 season...Sad but true.

[Eag's]

.

[Eag's]

Tallis was a much better backrower than Boyd.


No he wasn't.

+1 Tallis was twice the player Boyd was Mike, you are dreaming if you think otherwise.
Tallis was not only a terrific ball runner with great off loading skills, he was a monster in defence.

[Jarro]

mike/Eag's .... who's going to be your #1 choice for halfback next season ?

Did you guys have a young gun playing in reserves ?

[Eag's]

Not sure at the moment Jarro. There is some very good young talent coming through, we will have to wait and see what Price comes up with.

[mike]

+1 Tallis was twice the player Boyd was Mike, you are dreaming if you think otherwise.Tallis was not only a terrific ball runner with great off loading skills, he was a monster in defence.We'll all have a different opinion on this one. Did you see Les Boyd at his peak?

[mike]

mike/Eag's .... who's going to be your #1 choice for halfback next season ?Did you guys have a young gun playing in reserves ? I'd like to see Cameron King or Josh Drinkwater at half . But that idiot we have as a coach will probably put Nathan Fien at half.

[Eag's]

Yes I did, I think you may be giving him more credit than he deserves. Only my opinion.

Cameron King would be ideal, but like you Mike, I don't have a lot of faith in Price.