Page Hangs

[AndyP]

This is where the loading never happens, although it might look like it is still trying.

I know it is an issue, and I know that it is inconvenient. I suspect what may be the cause of it, but it is not confirmed.

Starting this thread now allows me to ignore any further comment on it in the "OZgolf = Slow?" thread. I don't want the two separate issues confused.

[jaybam]

Happens all the time on the iPhone. Only every now and then on the Mac at home

[AndyP]

How do you view the forum on the iPhone, jaybam? Browser, ForumRunner or TapaTank?

[Sydney Hacker]

This is what ha been happening to me on my work laptop which uses IE. iPhone using the browser and lite style seems fine.

[jaybam]

Just the browser mate.

[henno]

I think this is an Apache issue. It is definitely server-side.

[henno]

It might also be a PHP and/or apache max_connections problem. I have had no more than 2 minutes thought on this, but just throwing ideas out there for similar issue's I've come across.

[Courty]

Henno, if it was one of these problems you have mentioned, what would be the solution(s)?

[henno]

Henno, if it was one of these problems you have mentioned, what would be the solution(s)?

It depends on so many factors. That limit is there for a reason, so you could hammer your server by opening it up. Or in the case of shared hosting I'd be surprised if you have access to the httpd.conf or the php server configs anyway.

[AndyP]

You could always ask the admin of the site what he knows about it.

[just]

I haven't tried lightweight style but I have had problems in chrome, firefox and opera, on and off peak and in lights on and lights off, at work and at home. The site isn't slow, it just hangs when opening a thread or refreshing.
So you don't ignore it.
A suggestion for you why don't you lay it all out and let everyone know what you think the problem is? It surely couldn't be commercial in confidence (?) and there are enough IT people on here that some good suggestions may come of it.

[AndyP]

Why would I have ignored your post? Surely "further comment" implies that it is any post made after my post.

The hanging, unlike the slowness, is a known issue which appears to happen for everyone, including myself. Like henno says, this implies that it is a server side issue.

There is a support ticket open with the hosts for the problem, and they believe it may be the max_user_connections issue similar to that which henno mentioned above, despite a forum of our size usually being fine for this restriction. If it is this, it would mean upgrading plans or changing hosts, which is something I'd like to avoid at this stage.

[just]

Sounds good.

[Johnny Canuck]

I've had no problems on my iPhone using the lightweight version.

I generally only have problems using chrome when I am replying to a quote.

[LeftyHoges]

Have had big trouble today when posting pictures or replying advanced in IE. No such troubles on FireFox but could be coincedence.

[kev]

Only have the problem on desktops - using Safari or Firefox. Haven't noticed the issue when using an iPhone.

[AndyP]

I'm not seeing this at all tonight. Has anyone had problems with it? I did change some things today.

[goonie]

can't remember if it's happened on the lightweight style but it happens on firefox all the time, and tapatalk, tapatalk also gets a lot of empty/blank threads that disappear after a refresh.

[AndyP]

A lot? You're unlucky.

[MegaWatty]

Been pretty good today. I don't think I've had it happen once.

[Dazza]

Was on the laptop before and had no hang issues either.

[Eag's]

AP, I am not sure what you or someone else did, but everything is back to normal here :smt023

[Dotty]

A lot better today. For the past couple of weeks, it was approx. every tenth thread selected used to hang.

Only twice/three times today, and then it may have been impatience.

(IE9 on Windows7 at home. IE7/IE8? on XP? on a large network at work.)

[kev]

Ok here. However it could just be the power of suggestion.

[goonie]

I have to reload/reselect pages in firefox quite a bit at home and work, sometimes 1-2 times out of 10.
Some nights using tapatalk I have seen the blank thread everytime I go into a new category like Proshop, Equip Me, TourTalk.......
I have noticed this issue for about the last week, but nothing tonight.

Just trying to give you some info.

[goonie]

Just hung again but only once tonight so far.

[Grunt]

Have given up on using Chrome for this site, just hangs up badly. Actually starting to lean towards IE for everything.

[MegaWatty]

Seems to be happening again.

[AndyP]

Says you.

[henno]

Have given up on using Chrome for this site, just hangs up badly. Actually starting to lean towards IE for everything.

It's not a chrome issue.

[Grunt]

No problems when using IE9 Henno, very slow when using Chrome.

[Sydney Hacker]

I have had no problems the last few days. Cudos for fixing it... for me anyway :)

[AndyP]

I really don't want to have to upgrade the server package we are on at this stage for a couple of reasons. I'm hoping the tweaks that I've made are enough to get us through. I don't think any of the changes that I have made have a big negative side anyway.

[Eag's]

No probs here at work for the first time in ages.

[timah!]

Tapatalk still going swimmingly...

[AndyP]

I'll have to do something about that.

[timah!]

I'll have to do something about that.

Like give me my signature back?!

[henno]

Tapatalk sigs are like popped collars on Lacoste polos: only douchebags have them.

[timah!]

Tapatalk sigs are like popped collars on Lacoste polos: only douchebags have them.

*added to my champs clothing list for if I get there*

Flat brimmed cap
Bright colours
Lacoste polo w/ popped collar.

:lol:

[henno]

Flat brimmed cap

Don't forget to leave the silver sticker on the brim.

[Yossarian]

Seems to be going good here too with Chrome, and my phone seems to be accessing it well now tooooo!

[timah!]

Don't forget to leave the silver sticker on the brim.

Hey hey hey, settle down!

[MegaWatty]

Don't forget to leave the silver sticker on the brim.

I once played golf with a 70 something that left the shiny sticker on his hat. I'm not quite sure if he was aware of the fashion. A few weeks later, it was gone, but there was a dark circle left behind where the sticker once was. :)

[Outcast]

Andy,

I too have this issue of page hangs and it seems to be happening more frequently of late; at home on a Mac, using Safari will hang every so often through the night.

Also on my iPhone using the browser and mobile version of Ozgolf

Not a major stressor though, just mildly inconvenient

Cheers

[AndyP]

I haven't seen many hangs at all since I changed a few settings. How often is it happening?

[Sydney Hacker]

They seem to be creeping back into the frame for me the last day or so. No where near as bad as before though.

[Daves]

They seem to be creeping back into the frame for me the last day or so. No where near as bad as before though.

Ditto.

[Eag's]

Smooth sailing here.

[AndyP]

I might have to cull some members then.

[Sydney Hacker]

I might have to cull some members then.

Starting with?

[Yossarian]

Ditto.

+1

[AndyP]

Starting with?
Instead of eliminating the problem, I could eliminate those that experience the problem.

It's win-win.

[goonie]

Instead of eliminating the problem, I could eliminate those that experience the problem.

It's win-win.

Haven't you had the problem too?

[AndyP]

My super-powered account avoids such issues.

[Outcast]

Sorry Andy,

missed your post, probably happening 3 - 4 times a night to be honest and perhaps 2 or so times through the day on my iPhone

Just in case it helps, I use a Mac with Safari as the browser and I use the mobile browser option on the iPhone not Tapatalk or other forum app

[goonie]

My super-powered account avoids such issues.

Super powered :D

[just]

I am having the occasional page hang problem again. Is anyone else?

[TheTrueReview]

I am having the occasional page hang problem again. Is anyone else?

Yes.

[Eldrick]

x3

[AndyP]

I was waiting for someone to mention it. I think it has been pretty shit of late.

[3oneday]

Yep, quite regularly.

[Goldy]

yep

[Grunt]

Happened regularly this morning.

[Steve57]

Still happening!

[PeteyD]

Pretty shit describes it well.

[jaybam]

Bloody awful. But the way i look at it I should be working anyway lol.

[Ned]

Its henno's fault.................

[Jarro]

ISG is working fine .........

[God]

It pisses me off. Someone needs to do something.

[rubin]

It pisses me off. Someone needs to do something.

Dear god - are u henno? And if not, can u return him to us?

[timah!]

On tapatalk too :(

[AndyP]

There's a surprise. :roll:

[timah!]

Hater...

[Yossarian]

Yeah pretty bad here two!

Still can't log in on my galaxy. Worst phone ever.

[simmsy]

I tried telling you, but u just won't listen.

[golfbound]

not sure what going on but i can't load this page in firefox

[Outcast]

+1, been having the problem the past few days both on full version and mobile version; I just assumed it was my crappy internet connection which my ISP is allegedly investigating and fixing but, guess it's not - although the internet connection speed is still rubbish

[golfbound]

yeah its rally slow hey all y other sites aren't slow

[goughy]

First time visiting the site on the laptop in like a week or so, and yeah, the page hangs are strange. Had no issues with tapatalk. Wouldn't have happened under my rule!

[haysey]

I blame Courty. And yes, I'm getting it as well.

[Jarro]

Cut the cord that ties us to the West

[AndyP]

First time visiting the site on the laptop in like a week or so, and yeah, the page hangs are strange. Had no issues with tapatalk. Wouldn't have happened under my rule!That doesn't stop you from trying to fix it.

[goughy]

Seriously do you trust me to get it right?

[AndyP]

Millions of others wouldn't, but I do.

[Jarro]

I'm one of the millions

[goughy]

So am I jarro !

[Daves]

The problem seems to be getting worse and it is more than just single pages hanging now. Has been somewhat tedious the last day or so.

[Ned]

IE8 is bad, I am using Mozilla but still with delays.

[Grunt]

Am getting lock up on post replies now too.

[Daves]

Am getting lock up on post replies now too.

Yep, and sometimes everything locks up.

[AndyP]

If one thing locks up, everything locks up afterwards. That's expected.

Anyway, I'm using vBulletin default style at the moment with minimal issues, so I may switch the whole forum to that as an experiment for the short term. Clearly we need to change servers or server setup though. :(

[golfbound]

Mine is always locking up or the reply box when you want to reply doesn't work. The last couple of days have been really bad, I'm using firefox.

[mike]

Andy/courty, I don't know if you've done anything but it seems fine today. Has been playing up for quite a while now, whether I'm using Chrome, Firefox or IE.

[AndyP]

:smt102

[goonie]

I have mainly been using forum runner and haven't noticed any issues at all lately.

[mike]

Andy/courty, I don't know if you've done anything but it seems fine today. Has been playing up for quite a while now, whether I'm using Chrome, Firefox or IE.ffs. I spoke too soon. Must have been less traffic on a Sunday morn that made it quicker.

[AndyP]

ISG: It's the shizzle!

I'm investigating changing/upgrading to a better server, but don't expect it to be a quick turnaround.

[Yossarian]

If one thing locks up, everything locks up afterwards. That's expected.

Anyway, I'm using vBulletin default style at the moment with minimal issues, so I may switch the whole forum to that as an experiment for the short term. Clearly we need to change servers or server setup though. :(

have you been randomly applying the zigwah problem user app?

[AndyP]

:-$

[Dotty]

ffs. I spoke too soon. Must have been less traffic on a Sunday morn that made it quicker.
About the same time eight regular posters were playing at The Vines this morning?

[Ned]

About the same time eight regular posters spammers were playing at The Vines this morning?

:razz:

[golfbound]

well firefox won't let me in atm just keeps loading and does nothing

NK i keep trying to kill that bloody bug in your sig it gets me every time

[golfbound]

Thishas just gotten really bad can't seem to open many pages at all keep getting Data base error page or this page

14306

[AndyP]

There was a period last night where the forum went down.

[Jarro]

Yeah i noticed :(

[Jono]

I know AP et al know that there is a problem already but I've had similar issues as everyone else.

[Jarro]

It's really starting to become a pain in the arse !!

[live4golf]

:razz:

Just broke my screen trying to squish the bug...

[golfbound]

Just broke my screen trying to squish the bug...

Done the same the other day :)

[AndyP]

It's all in your heads. You're pushing the wrong buttons. ;)

[kev]

This page hung yet?

[timah!]

It hung up last night!

[AndyP]

An upgrade to the server (VPS) is needed, although I’m not 100% confident that we can afford it in the long term, as I’ve only been in charge of the site’s finances for 6 months. I have been looking at our needs and trying to find the best server fit for the site recently. I also need to find out how different it will be for me to manage, because if it is significantly different there will be a bit for me to learn and no time to do it.

But, I think it has got to the stage where it is unbearable, and I’ll have to bite the bullet and upgrade with our current hosts and figure it out or go somewhere else after.

[just]

Afford it in monetary terms or other? If it is monetary what would be the initial and long term costs?

[AndyP]

$$$$

Our current server costs are $10 per month, but we are looking at about $40 per month with the upgrade. It’s fine for now, as there is money in the bank from the merchandise sales and donations. It just needs to keep coming in over the long term to pay for those running costs. There are other avenues I’ve investigated (the merchandise was one of those), as I would prefer to not completely rely on member donations, and I think we’ll cope, but it is a risk.

[timah!]

Can we pimp Henno out?

[just]

Invest in the Greek economy, I heard it was going well.

[Yossarian]

Get Silvio Berlusconi to through a fundraising party for Ozgolf?

[sms316]

Get Silvio Berlusconi to through a fundraising party for Ozgolf?
Come again?

[Yossarian]

Throw. Wow that was average.

[just]

To be fair, Silvio would also go through most of the party too.

[AndyP]

FMD, is it actually working better tonight?

[Jarro]

It is ???

[Daves]

FMD, is it actually working better tonight?

It was till you had to ask!

[AndyP]

More WA lads are coming online, so it may have turned to shit.

[Jarro]

cut the cord

[goonie]

I still have not had an issue with forum runner, even when firefox plays up on the pc, except when the site was down last night.

[AndyP]

Believe it or not, I think the site was down because the hosts ****ed up when trying to "fix" things.

I have issues where a page won't load on all available browsers, especially at peak times. At a guess, I might visit the forum a little more than you, goonie. ;)

So...what made you switch from Tapatalk?

[MegaWatty]

More WA lads are coming online, so it may have turned to shit. Which thread are you talking about this time?