Harrison Shotmaker getting some rave on that seppo site

[Scifisicko]

http://www.harrison.com/Techcorners/show/54
"Nunchuk" up your regular shaft?
Anyone thinking about trying it?

[andylo]

If PGA approves it, it must be a gimmick.

[virge666]

Is it stiffening up the tip or weighting up the butt ?

[Scifisicko]

From what i can tell from the ravers it is adding a tiny bit of stiffness to the tip and it is provided with a butt counterweight to minimise the effect on SW. Its main claim is that it stabilises the tip and stops the excessive deformation and unwanted bending of the shaft tip through impact. Users report the same type of effect on dispersion as the Nunchuk delivers, with very little effect of flight and a significant reduction in spin and side spin. Sounds to good to be true.

[MegaWatty]

$?

[Scifisicko]

Click on the link at the top you lazy bugger...just this once.... $140 for the first one (with kit to install), then $99...

[MegaWatty]

I was on my phone and in a rush. Only just a chance to revisit the thread.

Cheers anyway. ;)

[Scifisicko]

Seppos are going ape sh@t over it. Placed my order, its sold out till mid August.

[MegaWatty]

More love for this than the Nunchuk?

[just]

On Golfwrx there is.

[MegaWatty]

Do you think the whole infomercial style marketing hurts the Nunchuk a bit? Makes it look gimmicky?

Possibly why this is being more widely accepted. They also have a heritage of Harrison love on WRX.

[Yossarian]

Butt plug?

[MegaWatty]

You in Yoss?

I'm ordering tonight.

[Yossarian]

I still don't really know what it is. Hold on.

[Yossarian]

Why do you want to go with this vis a vis the nunchuck?

[MegaWatty]

Cheaper.

Easier.

I like Seppo's.

[Yossarian]

I will pass. Can't really justify it. :(

[simmsy]

damage to the inside wall of the shaft??

[MegaWatty]

damage to the inside wall of the shaft??

No.

[Gomer]

Put one in a nunchuk?

[virge666]

It is good to see the idea getting some acceptance...

Nothing more flattering than imitation.

[Scifisicko]

Why do you want to go with this vis a vis the nunchuck?

3 shotmakers = 1.5 Nunchuks $wise? If they can stabilise a lighter softer flex shaft = same dispersion with more CHS?...but mainly because it was there.

[MegaWatty]

Ordering mine and Fits today. Mine is in stock (F), whilst Fit has to wait for his (G).

[timah!]

No nunchuck?

[Johnny Canuck]

cost?

[MegaWatty]

About $115ish if you don't want the tool. I'm buying the full kit, so either Fit or I can install it and remove it if you need.

About $160ish with the install tool and grip cutter.

These prices are with shipping and probably estimated on the high side.

[MegaWatty]

No nunchuck?

Nope. Not yet. I like the shaft in my current driver, so I thought I'd try this first.

It's asy to install and remove. I am overwhelmed by the reviews on it.

[MegaWatty]

About $115ish if you don't want the tool. I'm buying the full kit, so either Fit or I can install it and remove it if you need.

About $160ish with the install tool and grip cutter.

These prices are with shipping and probably estimated on the high side.

Canuck? Final call.

[Johnny Canuck]

very, very tempted. leaning towards a 9064 though.

[MegaWatty]

So, no?

In the words of Shakespeare; I need to pull thy trigger tonight.

Imagine this in the SAGA...

[Johnny Canuck]

I've imagined it.


Give me one more beer to think about it.

[MegaWatty]

I'll be waiting. If you really want to shy away, then stay away from the YouTube vids. It refreshing to see no infomercial style vids. That's probably why I can't bring myself to get a Nunny.

[MegaWatty]

Yes?

No?

[Johnny Canuck]

Undecided. Going to read the WRX thread.

[MegaWatty]

I got through 8 pages of it last night. Still got another 7 or something to go.

[MegaWatty]

the previous post's are correct it wont fix a terrible swing, but it will make your misses not look like misses.

Sounds like Yoss could do with one. Turn his Mrs into a Mr.

[TheNuclearOne]

very, very tempted. leaning towards a 9064 though.

You would have seen the crazy sell out on the 9064 o'seas?

[Johnny Canuck]

i saw today that golf galaxy had them for around $85 once a few discount codes were supplied. no shipping to aus though.

mega, does the shotmaker come with the grip lock if i don't get the tool, no homo.

[TheNuclearOne]

i saw today that golf galaxy had them for around $85 once a few discount codes were supplied. no shipping to aus though.

mega, does the shotmaker come with the grip lock if i don't get the tool, no homo.

That's the one, cheap as. a few in here have their own shipping setup now in case the seller don't ship to Oz.

[Johnny Canuck]

they only have reg left too. i wish i saw it a few days earlier

[MegaWatty]

i saw today that golf galaxy had them for around $85 once a few discount codes were supplied. no shipping to aus though.

mega, does the shotmaker come with the grip lock if i don't get the tool, no homo.

Yes sir.

[TheNuclearOne]

they only have reg left too. i wish i saw it a few days earlier

I was soo frigging close to hollering to you. Damn.

[TheNuclearOne]

Mega, i am 90-95 with a massively heavy transition from a very short swing. What's the go there with the Harrison?

[MegaWatty]

NFI! :)

Make a post on WRX and the Harrison boys look like they'll answer it pretty quickly.

[Johnny Canuck]

what would you fit my swing with, g?

[MegaWatty]

Fit's getting a G. Brrrrrrr.

You could be an F or a G. You don't like tip stiff shafts do you?

[Johnny Canuck]

not overly. haven't seen much of my swing, so i don't know how i would rate my loading mid or high.

the one time i could use fit...

[MegaWatty]

Ask him tomorrow. They're out of stock anyway.

He's playing golf with PTP tomorrow.

[Johnny Canuck]

he'll have to get a good night's sleep for that. i'll check with him. very intrigued.

[MegaWatty]

Please be sure to get back to me tomorrow night.

[Johnny Canuck]

after watching the vids, i'm guessing more ernie than sergi, but will ask fit potter.

[Johnny Canuck]

will be home a bit later, pennants vs. lake k.

[MegaWatty]

I know. I'll be awake watching The Open. Like now.

[MegaWatty]

The time has come.

[Johnny Canuck]

in your opinion, what fitting would be best for my swing speed and loading?

[MegaWatty]

F.

Would you like more time to communicate with the guys at Harrison? Perhaps even give them a call because from everything I hear, they are awesome at helping people over the phone.

They're on backorder anyway, so you can find out and let me know. Then bring me a coffee and we'll do the order in my office so I don't forget!

[Johnny Canuck]

Am I more or the Sergio or Ernie "loading" swing?

[MegaWatty]

I have no idea about your load! What's fit say?

You like the Gamma in the 9064. Fit balloons it. I think there's something in that for all of us.

[Johnny Canuck]

I was leaning towards the F.

Fit said he loads it more than me, but thought the G.

[MegaWatty]

F does swing speeds all the way to Rubin. Just the load makes the difference.

[Johnny Canuck]

I've created a WRX account but am not allowed to post yet.

[MegaWatty]

http://75.125.190.162:8082/Techcorners/articledetail/6

[Johnny Canuck]

http://75.125.190.162:8082/Techcorners/articledetail/6

How does that chart help? No mention of model.

[MegaWatty]

It was just something for everyone to read, homo.

[Johnny Canuck]

No homo.

[TourFit]

Has CanuckNut made up his mind yet???

[Johnny Canuck]

Getting in touch with Harrison on the matter.

[MegaWatty]

Nope.

[simmsy]

how do you decide which socks to wear each morning?

[TourFit]

Golfnut's wife tells him...

[Johnny Canuck]

Gold.

[MegaWatty]

Getting in touch with Harrison on the matter.

Bugs Potter?

[Johnny Canuck]

You gots it!

[TheNuclearOne]

Rave reviews from genuine real life ho's keep rolling on in. This things getting bigger than Ben Hur. Somewhere out there the party poopers at the USGA are shuddering.

Can't wait to see the ozgolf results.

[timah!]

Did you end up getting some Mega?

[MegaWatty]

They've been on backorder. They're due to ship hopefully today or tomorrow.

Canuck, Fit and Myself have one coming.

[TheNuclearOne]

Looking forward to seeing how they go guys. Pretty exciting (and extensive) reviews.

[MegaWatty]

Mine will be going in to a 12* Geek 551 with a 50g Aerotech shaft. :)

[TheNuclearOne]

Good plan, reading between the lines there's a great chance this thing could also be used to shore up less stable cheaper shafts into top shelf performers. I'm almost sold on the thing, haven't seen this much hype since god knows when.

[Johnny Canuck]

9015D or 9064 if I give in with Harrison Saga. Keep it in the family.

[TheNuclearOne]

9015D or 9064 if I give in with Harrison Saga. Keep it in the family.

The Mighty Adams family. Good stuff.

[Johnny Canuck]

Good plan, reading between the lines there's a great chance this thing could also be used to shore up less stable cheaper shafts into top shelf performers. I'm almost sold on the thing, haven't seen this much hype since god knows when.

I've never been one to buy into the hype machine, but the reviews just keep coming.

[TourFit]

I'm not even sure where to begin with mine...

[Johnny Canuck]

Yoss will give you a suggestion.

[TheNuclearOne]

I've never been one to buy into the hype machine, but the reviews just keep coming.

Same here JC. Another just came rolling in as we posted in here. Yet another. Won't be long before i pony up LOL

[TourFit]

Why isn't Rubin getting one...?

Or a couple even?

[Johnny Canuck]

Why isn't Rubin getting one...?

Or a couple even?

his uncle is getting them, along with a 750cc driver.

[virge666]

Anyone got one yet ?

used it ?

[Johnny Canuck]

Will let you know when we get them.

Simmsy dropped off his Nunchuk for me. Curious to give it a bit of a hit.

[virge666]

Will let you know when we get them.

Simmsy dropped off his Nunchuk for me. Curious to give it a bit of a hit.

Cool beans - give us all a write-up on both.

[TourFit]

Will let you know when we get them.

Simmsy dropped off his Nunchuk for me. Curious to give it a bit of a hit.

Already...? Is he done with another one?

[markTHEblake]

Click on the link at the top you lazy bugger...just this once.... $140 for the first one (with kit to install), then $99...

I met Keith from Retco golf this week who is importing these (as well as Nunchuks). He said it cost "about $80", I didn't pay much attention to what it was at the time he just handed me some printouts off the internet and I decided to read later.

[MegaWatty]

I met Keith from Retco golf this week who is importing these (as well as Nunchuks). He said it cost "about $80", I didn't pay much attention to what it was at the time he just handed me some printouts off the internet and I decided to read later.

That's the insert on it's own without the locking tool or grip cutter.

[MegaWatty]

They have shipped.

USPS Priority. All going well they will be here next week.

[simmsy]

USPS. They'll be sure to break them.

Goodluck.

[TheNuclearOne]

They have shipped.

USPS Priority. All going well they will be here next week.

I am envious of you lot!

[rubin]

Why isn't Rubin getting one...?

Or a couple even?

Because rubin has only just read about them, and is purchasing lessons before any more gimmicky new shafts.

[MegaWatty]

Not a shaft.

[Yossarian]

That V2 was a bit gimmicky.

[rubin]

That V2 was a bit gimmicky.

the V2 works. It was better than the shit noodle that was in the club to begin with.

[Yossarian]

Indeed.

[MegaWatty]

If others grab themselves a Shotmaker, let me know and you can use my torque wrench and grip cutter. Consider it the communal tool set for 5 bucks a go.

That should save most people about 30 bucks and make it a bit more affordable. Also allows me to recoup a few bucks.

[MegaWatty]

As quickly as I posted it, I thought about it.

Forget it. Just pay the postage. I don't need the 5 bucks. :)

[Yossarian]

If you give me five bucks I'll have a go on your tool.

[MegaWatty]

LOL. I like you. :)

[MegaWatty]

Not long now!

[Yossarian]

LOL. I like you. :)

No you don't.

[MegaWatty]

Cuddles?

[Yossarian]

Do you have an axivcore Red to sell me?

[MegaWatty]

No. Want a Shotmaker? I don't think Fit's paid for his yet.

[virge666]

They have shipped.

USPS Priority. All going well they will be here next week.


You guys stil waiting on USPS ?

[MegaWatty]

You guys stil waiting on USPS ?

Yes sir. They cleared customs yesterday.

[Steve57]

Do you have an axivcore Red to sell me?

There is one over here Yoss : http://forums.iseekgolf.com/forums/34-golf-classifieds/topics/46900-various-including-tour?page=1#posts-786822

[Steve57]

Sorry, its a green!

[TheNuclearOne]

Sorry, its a green!

Looks like both to me.

[Dazza]

http://www.mygolfspy.com/harrison-shotmaker-review/

[MegaWatty]

Jebus!

Looks good.

[TourFit]

45% increase in accuracy...I might hit a fairway yet!!!

[virge666]

Has anyone got one yet ?

Or are they also in the USPS hole . . .

[rubin]

45% increase in accuracy...I might hit a fairway yet!!!

i wouldn't.... :(

[MegaWatty]

Has anyone got one yet ?

Or are they also in the USPS hole . . .

Not yet. Still sitting as cleared customs. However, it doesn't say where. It could have lobbed into Melbourne and have to jump aboard a camel to get over here.

[kwantfm]

Has anyone got one yet ?

Or are they also in the USPS hole . . .

A bit sheepishly, I'm going to admit that I got one about 5 weeks ago but haven't had a chance to hit it yet...

[MegaWatty]

A bit sheepishly, I'm going to admit that I got one about 5 weeks ago but haven't had a chance to hit it yet...

WTF?

Which flex did you get?

[kwantfm]

WTF?

Which flex did you get?

E, I think...

[MegaWatty]

Seppos are going ape sh@t over it. Placed my order, its sold out till mid August.

Has it arrived?

[MegaWatty]

2 parcels arrived for me today. I am thinking one is from Desert Diamond Golf after the latest USPS update on Friday was that the goods had arrived at the Post Office.

I'll be rushing home tonight (except where the new fixed camera has been installed). :)

[kwantfm]

Quick review...

I have a Harrison Shotmaker E sitting in a Taylor Made R300 Tour 9.5 with a Fujikura Speeder 550 stiff at 44.5". Hit a few this morning, tried ten shots with Shotmaker, ten shots without, ten shots with a 9.5 Supertri/Nunchuk. Bottom line is that, for this rusty golfer, there are no magic bullets and all of the three combinations produced about the same results. I was aiming at a generous fairway width at the driving range and all three combos produced 5 fairways hit and 5 fairways missed. The one thing that the Shotmaker did achieve was that the Speeder 550 definitely did feel much more solid with the Shotmaker in.

I also took out my old 510 TP with a VS Proto. Best driver of the lot for me.

T

[Scifisicko]

Still waiting. I will need A flex by the time it gets here

[MegaWatty]

Arrived. Installed. Busting to try it!

I did have a bit of an issue installing it. Hopefully its just a one off. I will install Canuck's tomorrow and be more knowledgable as a result the issue I had.

No rattles. Bring on Thursday!

[Yossarian]

Do you pull your own shaft?

[MegaWatty]

In goes in through the grip.

[TourFit]

They are very fragile...hope you don't break Canucks'

That would be unfortunate.

[MegaWatty]

They're not that fragile. Mine got stuck and wouldn't lock in. It got a fair treatment getting it out. The lock nut was not set in properly. Once I got it out, I re-installed it and got it to lock.

[PeteyD]

That used all your energy up?

[MegaWatty]

That used all your energy up?

Errrrr.

?

[Flavzz]

So are these things worth the $$ ?

[PeteyD]

Errrrr.

?

Arrived, installed, not used. Did you run out of energy?

[MegaWatty]

Arrived, installed, not used. Did you run out of energy?

I only get 1 game a week. :(

Plus it got installed at 9:35 last night.

[Daves]

Is the grip part of the kit? or do you have to knock a hole out of the end of what ever grip you are using?

[MegaWatty]

Knock a hole in top of the grip, drop it in and then use a locking, grip cap in the butt, which also helps counterweight the insert.

[MegaWatty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2MtaWACZk0

[Daves]

Ok, so it is basically a big wall plug. It goes further into the shaft than I thought it would.

Gary Tozer was talking about some other Counterbalancing system he was going to become a distributor for. Will have to track down what it was?

[MegaWatty]

Ok, so it is basically a big wall plug. It goes further into the shaft than I thought it would.

Gary Tozer was talking about some other Counterbalancing system he was going to become a distributor for. Will have to track down what it was?

What's his business name? I think he's the dusty in Aus.

[just]

Ok, so it is basically a big wall plug. It goes further into the shaft than I thought it would.

Gary Tozer was talking about some other Counterbalancing system he was going to become a distributor for. Will have to track down what it was?

Balance Certified (http://www.balance-certified.com/)?

[Daves]

What's his business name? I think he's the dusty in Aus.

Aussie Custom Golf.

http://www.aussiecustomgolf.com.au/

Tour Lock is the system he was talking about;

http://www.tourlockpro.com/result.html

[Daves]

Balance Certified (http://www.balance-certified.com/)?

Another similar system by the looks. Apparently Sergio uses them.

[MegaWatty]

The Shotmaker isn't a counter balance. Mike does a better job than me at explaining it. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3CLzMUYlhg

[TourFit]

The grip cap plug is just to do TWO basic things...

1) Plug the cut grip cap (which gets a large hole in the end)
2) Adds a little weight that sort of balances the 4g Shotmaker down the shaft.

I will be removing the grips to put the Shotmaker in & out. But for you guys at home it'd be easier to cut the grip cap and install each time.

[Johnny Canuck]

Like 4 grams will make a difference to your hack swing. Or any of ours for that matter.

[markTHEblake]

Does this shotmaker allow you to make the club shorter like the Nunchuk does? It seems to me that the big advantage of the latter is that you can for no loss in distance.

[TheNuclearOne]

Why would you need to play the club shorter with the shotmaker when it makes the vast majority more accurate straight off the bat with zero loss of distance? The catchcry i have seen for so many with the Nunchuk is a loss of 5-10 meters but a good to great gain of accuracy. The shotmaker is more accurate with no loss of distance.

[TourFit]

Like 4 grams will make a difference to your hack swing. Or any of ours for that matter.

True dat.

Hack swing indeed. +1. Agreed.

(Although I do have a 'Tour' level short game!)

[rubin]

True dat.

Hack swing indeed. +1. Agreed.

(Although I do have a 'Tour' level short game!)

i didn't know Golfnut had gone into the club making business... :D

[markTHEblake]

The catchcry i have seen for so many with the Nunchuk is a loss of 5-10 meters
The only catchcry I have heard is no loss or a gain and that supports the concept.

[TheNuclearOne]

You mustn't get around much.

[MegaWatty]

The only catchcry I have heard is no loss or a gain and that supports the concept.

Didn't Jhonattan Vegas tell Bowditch that he lost about 5 or 10 yards but was happy to gain the accuracy?

[just]

The reality is most choppers will gain consistency from a shorter shaft (Nunchuk or something else, although the Nunchuk is well set up to make it shorter) because of this most will actually gain distance. Whacking in a Shotmaker isn't going to make most golfers on this site any more accurate, because what they lack is consistency of contact because their driver shaft is too long and they are choppers.

[MegaWatty]

At what handicap does chopper status kick in?

[just]

At what handicap does chopper status kick in?
9.51?

ps I hit the driver 350 yards, hit crisp iron shots and the only reason my handicap is 20 is my putting lets me down.

[MegaWatty]

So TourFit, then.

[markTHEblake]

You mustn't get around much.

I will admit that I have totally ignored feedback given by Nunchukers that did not follow the recommended fitting and/or did not get it professionally fitted to them.


Didn't Jhonattan Vegas tell Bowditch that he lost about 5 or 10 yards but was happy to gain the accuracy?

I do not know, '5 or 10' is rather a coincidence though, and if it really was 10 yards I would like to know what his setup was, and what the launch monitor showed him.

[MegaWatty]

Found it for you Blakey. It was you that asked the bloody question!

Although, I will admit that no numbers were mentioned.


nK. So you lied about your age then.

aimnhit did you speak to Vegas about the driver shaft he was using? . It is the Nunchuk as designed be Gerry Hogan.


I did mate. He said that he likes it alot as the dispersion is better then his old one. He said it's really heavy at 105grams and has lost a bit of distance but loves it cause he can work it both ways really easy.

[markTHEblake]

Found it for you Blakey. It was you that asked the bloody question!

I suggested an innovation to the boss the other day, and he quoted back to me an email from one year before, where he made the same suggestion to me and I flat rejected it.

I put it down to remembering so many unimportant things there is no time to recall anything else.

[TheNuclearOne]

I will admit that I have totally ignored feedback given by Nunchukers that did not follow the recommended fitting and/or did not get it professionally fitted to them.

Same here, any chopper worth his salt knows it's made to be played at a shorter length by design.

I should state i'm not trying to take anything away from the Chukka, i've read plenty of top reviews. I've also read more than plenty for the Harrison.

Lets see how our local yokels go this weekend with it. I look forward to some reviews from a bit closer to home.

[goonie]

The only catchcry I have heard is no loss or a gain and that supports the concept.

I have read the nunchuk thread and the general consensus seems to be an increase in average distance due to more consistant hitting and a straighter ball flight, but not an increase in Max distance

[MegaWatty]

I have read the nunchuk thread and the general consensus seems to be an increase in average distance due to more consistant hitting and a straighter ball flight, but not an increase in Max distance

I think that is a good way to describe it. Well put.

[virge666]

Same here, any chopper worth his salt knows it's made to be played at a shorter length by design.

I should state i'm not trying to take anything away from the Chukka, i've read plenty of top reviews. I've also read more than plenty for the Harrison.

Lets see how our local yokels go this weekend with it. I look forward to some reviews from a bit closer to home.

A good way of putting it - but the big advantage is in two parts.

The counterbalancing - allows you to swing a 105gr shaft with relative ease.
The stupidly stiff tip reduces the droop in the shaft at impact - so that your misses are up and down the clubface - not all around the clubface.

The harrison seems to have the same effect without the 105gr shaft bit, so the spin will be a touch higher.

Similar technology.



I have read the nunchuk thread and the general consensus seems to be an increase in average distance due to more consistant hitting and a straighter ball flight, but not an increase in Max distance

I have to say that THAT SHOT - the boomer, comes around less often. But the shitty 210m drive also doesn't make an appearance very often either.

[virge666]

Hi from San Carlos,

We interrupt the normal communications to post an update on a "viral" golf product that has taken the Internet by storm.

I mentioned the Harrison Shotmaker a week ago. The Shotmaker is a phenomenon. It is a small graphite "shaft within a shaft" that reinforces the tip area of your driver shaft. The goal is to cut down distortion at impact. That makes your drives go straighter.

So far, the Shotmaker is so new that there is no long term satisfaction to report. Short term satisfaction is immediate - especially if you're working indoors with a launch monitor that makes it easy to see improvements in accuracy.

The Golf Lab was first to test the Shotmaker with a launch monitor and publish the results. Since then, we have devoted most of our fitting time to the Shotmaker. We reported our results from a long day on Saturday on the Golfwrx Internet Forum. Here is a link to that post archived on the Golf Lab blog. (copy and paste to your browser)

http://calgolflab.com/blog/2011/08/16/saturday-august-13-at-the-golf-lab/

The Shotmaker is not a miracle. The reason it works for good players is that a good player makes good swings. The Shotmaker will help a good swing. The Shotmaker will not help a poor swing. Players with handicaps above 15 should expect results only on good drives. Shotmaker doesn't help a miss.

[MegaWatty]

They seem to be consistently out of stock of one flex or another. It looks like they're selling more than perhaps they thought they would.

It'd be nice to do some dynamic, blind fitting with the range of flexes.

[virge666]

They seem to be consistently out of stock of one flex or another. It looks like they're selling more than perhaps they thought they would.

It'd be nice to do some dynamic, blind fitting with the range of flexes.

I think RetCo will be bringing the system in...

As long as they dont use USPS - you might be OK.

:)

[MegaWatty]

I think RetCo will be bringing the system in...

As long as they dont use USPS - you might be OK.

:)

From Mike Cheng at Harrison:


Thank you for your interest. Please contact Keith Paul, Retco, 617-5529-1196, kpproshop@yahoo.au

[markTHEblake]

He most definitely is. Keith was handing out information about it at the recent senior proams. I might have mentioned that already but I cant be sure. I usually forget that I have memory problems.

if it is helpful Retco is walking distance from my office. Though i do not think they are open to the public as such.

[MegaWatty]

He most definitely is. Keith was handing out information about it at the recent senior proams. I might have mentioned that already but I cant be sure. I usually forget that I have memory problems.

if it is helpful Retco is walking distance from my office. Though i do not think they are open to the public as such.

Find out how much he's charging for the insert only, Blakey.

Please. ;)

[markTHEblake]

He told me "About $80"

[MegaWatty]

Canuck?

[Johnny Canuck]

You rang?

[MegaWatty]

You did.

Do it. I wanna hear it again.

[Johnny Canuck]

Ok.

I had my first run with the Shotmaker in my Saga with the 9015D at Binningup.

The first two swings produced one out of the heel and one towards the toe. I was expecting a massive slice and a big draw. It turned out that I got a nice little cut and a beautiful little draw. One finished dead centre of the fairway, the other right centre. The one towards the toe travelled at least 260, possibly a bit more.

The next hole I hit it, I hit 4 tee shots. Two were struck perfect and went dead straight. One had a bit of a cut and I thought I would find it well right of the fairway, possibly on the road. I found it in the fairway. The other had a bit of a draw and I thought that it too would be in the rough. Wrong again.

I hit two tee shots on the 4th, both were on the lines I chose and flew dead straight. One rolled through the fairway by a metre on the dogleg, the one on the aggressive line stopped a two metres short of the fairway.

I hit 5 tee shots on 4. 4 Fairways and one in the sand right where I tried to go the corner and didn't connect.

3 tee shots on 7, 3 balls dead centre of the fairway. I tried hitting the final of the 3 with a little more height and it went nice and high for me.

On 8, I went to the very tips and chose the left fairway bunker as a target, not knowing if I could get there. My first three tee shots landed in the same bunker! I then tried working it right to left, which I really struggle doing with the woods. The first went absolutely perfect and got my hopes up. After that, I had a few that I drew too much, tried a few different things to make me draw the ball and continued to not be able to draw that ball with any consistency.

I hit an old ball off the 9th tee towards the trees and it flew dead straight, about 10m off my target line, with no side spin whatsoever.

Finally, after playing 9, I found 2 old balls and went back to the first. One very gentle draw and one very gentle fade (5m either way max). Both, dead centre of the fairway.

The verdict, so far:

Feel: It doesn't really change the overall feel of the club at all. If anything, the club felt more solid, without feeling stiffer.

Ball flight: It didn't appear to affect ball flight in terms of launch angle at all.

Workability: I had no problem working my stock gentle fade or hitting a perfect draw, follow by some over draws and a snap hook that normally occurs when I try to ensure that I draw the ball.

Notice a difference? Definitely. It seriously just wants to fly straight. It's strange seeing shots start slightly off the target line you choose and actually stay there. The fact that a few shots that I hit very poorly still finished in the fairway is an absolute bonus.

Nunchuk or Shotmaker? At this point in time, for me, it is definitely the Shotmaker. The added distance is a bonus as when hit well, it is easily 10m longer, if not more. The reduction of side spin will also help with my driving distance as I won't make the rough as often and not lose as much distance as the ghey fades will be less frequent. I also prefer the lighter shaft and the fact that I can take a combo that already works for me and simply insert the shotmaker, without having to worth about the length, swingweight, etc... The Nunchuk launched very low for me, even with a 12.5* head, which takes driver out of my hands on a few holes at my course.

I am really looking forward to trying it Sunday in comp and also hearing what Mega has to say after using it tomorrow.

[kingslayer33]

Sounds very promising JC. Will be interested to hear Mega's thoughts now.

[TourFit]

Wow...I hope Mega comes to see me on Friday to drop it off then.

I'm currently down to play on Saturday (pending podiatrist/doctor visit today!) and would love to give it a test.

[Iain]

JC, how many fairways would you normally hit?

[Johnny Canuck]

I never really keep track but would guess around half with driver.

[MegaWatty]

Wow...I hope Mega comes to see me on Friday to drop it off then.

I'm currently down to play on Saturday (pending podiatrist/doctor visit today!) and would love to give it a test.

Nope. Last day off with my kids before I go away. I have it at work though.

[simmsy]

so verdict after today's round?

[MegaWatty]

You're on to me pretty quickly!

I hit it like a pig today but I'm not real well with this virus.

A couple of quick points. I over cut a ball on 14 where I try to hit that small fade and instead of being deep in the trees where I am often am, I was just right of the bunker.

I've effectively added 8 grams to the club which JC may say I wouldn't be able to feel but I could. I might take some lead tape off the head.

The ones that I pured were nice. Real nice.

It's going to be a few weeks before I can use it again so hopefully I'm better by then and can give it a real go. I can definitely see what it is doing.

[Johnny Canuck]

Come to think of it, the club felt a touch heavier. I thought it might have been switching back from the Chuk.

As I said to Mega, I've never been overly sensitive to swingweight, as demonstrated by the c7 weight driver I used to use. After the first swing, I had completely forgot about it.

[haysey]

Tommo has stuck one of these in my 2.0 for me. Be interesting to see if it makes any noticeable difference.

[ddasey]

Tommo has stuck one of these in my 2.0 for me. Be interesting to see if it makes any noticeable difference.


Be interested to see what you think.

[Daves]

Balance Certified (http://www.balance-certified.com/)?


Another similar system by the looks. Apparently Sergio uses them.

Sergio's driver set up gets a brief mention in this month's Golf Digest, though Balanced certified does not get a mention. The article says that he is using a 100 gram shaft at 44"

[Iain]

There's a thread on Golfwrx about Sergio's counterbalance.

Marty's been experimenting with them, had 150g in his irons and 100's in his woods I believe.

[simmsy]

hey, sorry if covered before but how does one choose which flex he needs with the shotmaker?

i know my s/s, but load amount??? how would one know that if they know 9/10ths of Fu**all about their swing?

i'm assuming i need E or F

[MegaWatty]

You are not an F. You'd be a D or an E.

[popper81]

Starting to think I am keen on trying this. The 35+ pages are interesting reading... Available anywhere on the gold coast yet?

[timah!]

Yeah, probably Gary Tozer, or Retco Golf.

[popper81]

timah!

Yeah, probably Gary Tozer, or Retco Golf.


Already sent retco golf an email... See if I get a result? Where is Gary based?? Don't worry, google is my friend.!!

[Nuffie]

Already sent retco golf an email... See if I get a result? Where is Gary based?? Don't worry, google is my friend.!!

Would certainly like to try one of these puppies in the new driver once it gets here from the states. Only thing the Myazaki 59g S shaft and Tour 440cc head will play at D4 swingweight initially so Hopefully a Shotmaker wont increase the swingweight too much. BUT maybe that wont be too bad for me as it will prob help load the stiff shaft even easier, let alone hit it very consistent and with even more distance.

[MegaWatty]

There is a counterweight for the grip Nuffie. It should still swingsweight the same.

[Johnny Canuck]

Really looking forward to comp with the shotmaker. Hopefully I bring my swing with me.

[MegaWatty]

Tomorrow?

[Johnny Canuck]

Afternoon.

[MegaWatty]

In going to load up a 9064 with the SAGA and Shotmaker. I am very excited about that combo.

[timah!]

Thinking about swapping out the 'chuck into the Fd...just for shits and giggles tomorrow...

[MegaWatty]

This thing has come apart again as I've gone to pull it out. :(

It's not wanting to come out as easily this time. I'm guessing I'm just going to have to get fit to pull the shaft and push it back through.

I'm going to need to throw some epoxy on the lug that goes inside it.

[timah!]

The Shotmaker?
Weird...

Have you tried a 'chuck Mega?

[MegaWatty]

It's just the little lug. I'm just going to send the chief of Harrison a quick message and see what he says. He tried helping last time.

Tried the Chuk a few times and failed each time.

[timah!]

Really?

Describe 'failed'?

It took me a fair few trials to get into it... I thought it would suit you to a T..

[MegaWatty]

Left low pull hooks. All 3 times.

[timah!]

Needs more than 3!

I managed to pump Daves across 2 fairways the first time I hit his...
(no homo!)

[MegaWatty]

3 different times. 3 different heads. Not 3 different hits. ;)

[timah!]

Really....hmm...

I seriously would have thought it would have been great for you.. pretty smooth swing and all...
very keen to see how the shotmaker works for you then....

[MegaWatty]

Really....hmm...

I seriously would have thought it would have been great for you.. pretty smooth swing and all...
very keen to see how the shotmaker works for you then....

It's just cost me an extra hour up at fit's. Damn it.

[timah!]

I thought you all loved fit...and wasting his time..haha..

[timah!]

If only you WAnkers had titleist! :P

[MegaWatty]

It'd still be stuck!

[MegaWatty]

It's stuck deep in the Geek at the moment.

[timah!]

Sounds like a Yoss fantasy! :p

[timah!]

But seriously, give the 'chuck a few more goes with the one head (no homo)

[MegaWatty]

I only get one game a week mate. No time to mess around. :(

[Yossarian]

Kool aid.

[Johnny Canuck]

It's just cost me an extra hour up at fit's. Damn it.

You're only dropping it off I take it?

[simmsy]

3 different times. 3 different heads. Not 3 different hits. ;)

In fairness you've never hit it more than about two/three times each time and I reckon u were trying to smack the crap out of it. Low snap hooks are rarely the equipments fault. Even I know that.

[MegaWatty]

In fairness you've never hit it more than about two/three times each time and I reckon u were trying to smack the crap out of it. Low snap hooks are rarely the equipments fault. Even I know that.

It's also a feel thing and it just didn't feel right.

I wasn't trying to smack the crap out of it when I had my busted back.

[MegaWatty]

The glue failed on the locking lug. Mike Cheng from Harrison responded in about 25 minutes with a solution. Let's see how it goes.

[Johnny Canuck]

I had the exact same thing with the Diamana red in the 9015d. I was trying to hit big cuts and was still hitting low pulls.

[Johnny Canuck]

The glue failed on the locking lug. Mike Cheng from Harrison responded in about 25 minutes with a solution. Let's see how it goes.

I hope his solution included sending a comp one for Canuck's 3 wood for the glowing endorsement.

[MegaWatty]

I had the exact same thing with the Diamana red in the 9015d. I was trying to hit big cuts and was still hitting low pulls.

That's was a filthy combo!

[MegaWatty]

I hope his solution included sending a comp one for Canuck's 3 wood for the glowing endorsement.

Mike said hi.

[MegaWatty]

Got it!

[Yossarian]

so....

[MegaWatty]

Awesome. Buy one. Or I can if you want.

[Yossarian]

Ok I need to do some reading about this thing to work out which one I need. Are you seriously getting another?

[MegaWatty]

No. I will try to pick you up one if you want.

I'm guessing an E.

[Yossarian]

Yeah I think I was around 105 on the LM.

Load factor. I can imagine were warren enjoys it but not what mine would be.

[Johnny Canuck]

F as in fondle.

[MegaWatty]

Yeah I think I was around 105 on the LM.

Load factor. I can imagine were warren enjoys it but not what mine would be.

I'm 105-110.

[Yossarian]

Yeah but how did you work out load factor?

[rubin]

I'm 105-110.

how do you establish what the load factor is?

[Yossarian]

Echo.

[Johnny Canuck]

Estimate. I got a g and am very happy. I'd say Yoss doesn't load it that much, Rubin definitely.

[rubin]

has anyone tried it in a shaft that is already pretty tip-stiff? From what I understand, its designed to stiffen up the tip of the shaft to enable more control/accuracy etc. If the shaft is already very tip stiff, would it have much effect?

[MegaWatty]

Doesn't stiffen it. Stabilises it.

[rubin]

Doesn't stiffen it. Stabilises it.

Forgive my ignorance on this one - but wouldn't the simple nature of stabilising it, also stiffen it? and by the same, wouldnt a very tip stiff shaft be quite stable in the first place?

[MegaWatty]

Forgive my ignorance on this one - but wouldn't the simple nature of stabilising it, also stiffen it? and by the same, wouldnt a very tip stiff shaft be quite stable in the first place?

It sits in the mid section rather than the tip. It stops the deformation of the shaft at impact. The shaft actually moves around the insert.

[rubin]

It sits in the mid section rather than the tip. It stops the deformation of the shaft at impact. The shaft actually moves around the insert.

ahhhh - well that makes sense now.

please carry on ;)

[MegaWatty]

Check the Harrison website and if you dare, the WRX thread.

[TheNuclearOne]

how do you establish what the load factor is?

Use 10cc as your base.

[rubin]

Check the Harrison website and if you dare, the WRX thread.

yeah - I had a read on the Harrison sight, and granted I was only skim reading, but it seemed like it was designed to sit in the tip section.

would it work out the same for say a hybrid shaft do you think?

[MegaWatty]

Yup.

[MegaWatty]

Yup.

But I don't think too many Hybies have .335 shafts.

[just]

In essence the effect is the same as the Nunchuk but you get to use the shaft of your choice. I'd be interested in it for hybrid shafts.