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amanda
18th June 2005, 03:21 PM
Jim brought this up just recently - Gary (customclubmaker) is unable to play his match, so he's offered me a lifeline of sorts.  I'm not sure if this is allowed and I'm sure we'll argue at length.

But just in case it does get through, I'm trying to organise a game - current details:

Sunday 17th July
Location - I'll have to call around, but I'm pretty sure there are open days at Bexley and Liverpool.  Not sure where else would be close for both of us (no offence Jono but I don't really want to head north).  Any ideas?

AndyP
18th June 2005, 04:13 PM
I'm not sure if this is allowed and I'm sure we'll argue at length.
Mandy, I'm pretty sure that this is exactly what the "rules" say.

jimandr
18th June 2005, 05:46 PM
I'm too lazy to look up the rules (yet, I'll do so anyway after I post this message just to check), but as the person getting the benefit of the forfeit, I think it's my call whether I accept the forfeit or allow the loser of the previous game to take the place of the winner.

I want to play, rather than get a cheap path through to the semi-final.

On to the potential venue: Sunday 17 July is fine by me, and we should try to get a minimum of one full four person group, at anywhere that we can get on. I haven't played Bexley for over 10 years, so I'm happy to go there. Liverpool is a possible, maybe Glenmore or Penrith could also be a chance. The challenge at this time of year is to find a course with gaps in the field accepting visitors.

jimandr
18th June 2005, 05:56 PM
I just checked the rules.

Rule 4 says (I don't know how to do 'quotes' so I copy and pasted this)

"After round 1, any player who withdraws from the event, his previous opponent takes his place - time permitting."

markTHEblake
18th June 2005, 06:39 PM
I want to play, rather than get a cheap path through to the semi-final.

thats pretty much the reason that condition was used. If someone forfeits during the event, then one might say they shouldnt have played in the first place and has taken someone elses spot.

thats sort of the gist, the vibe, the guts of it.

amanda
19th June 2005, 01:17 PM
Thanks guys - Brad should also be able to play - I'll have to make up an OzG username for him to register on the new function AndyP has put together.

I'll put in a call to Bexley tomorrow afternoon to see if it will be an open comp on the 17th.

markTHEblake
19th June 2005, 06:18 PM
about time brad got a word in anyway.

Jono
19th June 2005, 08:23 PM
Good luck Amanda. Looks like you've got a second life in the matchplay champs. If you want to shake Jim a bit, ask him how he lost 7 and 6 to me at Riverside Oaks. Ask him specifically about the 3 topped shot into the water on the 12th. :twisted:

jimandr
20th June 2005, 09:20 PM
The three topped fairway woods don't unsettle me enormously, but the half a dozen other penalty shots and the 8 three putt greens still have traumatic memories.

Nobody should ever concede me a three foot putt :lol:

amanda
27th June 2005, 12:32 PM
Bexley is an open comp - bookings taken 1 week before - I'll call up and book us in.

What time preferred? After 9.30am? I know Jim doesn't like early morning starts.

Cost will be $20.

AndyP
27th June 2005, 01:08 PM
I know Jim doesn't like early morning starts.
Isn't that a good reason to make it an early start, Mandy?
A good way to get a couple of holes up early. ;)

Grunt
27th June 2005, 01:14 PM
Amanda

You may not get on Bexley that day or the tee times might just be a little limited, I am playing pennants there that day B & C grade not sure of the times yet.

Don't you guys come and put pressure on me, with a gallery I am hopeless, remember my tee shot at Shellharbour with you all watching. :cry: only joking might be able to catch up with you all there

amanda
27th June 2005, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the heads up Grant. I'll try and call up first thing at 7am.

jimandr
28th June 2005, 09:12 PM
Most Sydney Sunday comps have restricted tee times so they can fit in all the social clubs who make regular bookings. I dare say Bexley would be no exception.

The Pennants were probably scheduled six months in advance, and a social club may have been shunted aside to accomodate them. Pennants never affect the Sunday comp at Camden Valley, except that it's very slow to be the first group following pennants matches. While you can understand why they might be a bit slow, it doesn't make the waiting on every tee any more fun.

We probably couldn't get a 7.00am tee time even if we wanted to.

Being a kind-hearted person, I'm sure Amanda wouldn't stoop to cheap tricks like that in order to gain an edge :wink:

What I said originally still applies. I'll play at whatever time we can get on. As a contingency plan I'll call a few other places to determine our chances of an alternative venue if Bexley doesn't work out.

amanda
29th June 2005, 07:46 AM
Thanks Jim - Bexley only takes bookings a week in advance.

Do you know anywhere that takes them 2 weeks ahead? We might go with that option to make sure we get a start somewhere.

Grunt
29th June 2005, 08:49 AM
Amanda

You will get on Mac Grange no problems at all. The only thing is there will be no comp so I am not sure of the green fees. I think it is 40 with a cart.

the pro shop number is 9820 4599

jimandr
8th July 2005, 12:22 PM
I have been successful in booking a venue.

It seems there are pennants playing everywhere that Sunday. I couldn't get on at Penrith (open comp Sundays, maybe worth a visit later in the year when there are longer daylight hours) or Glenmore.

But I was successful at Bardwell Valley. The booking is for four players, at 11.06

Spiersy has already got his name down as the fourth at this stage, so bad luck to any others who want to witness this titanic battle first hand.

We'll ask about availability for the future, in case we need to go there again.

I've asked Amanda to change the title of this thread.

AndyP
8th July 2005, 12:43 PM
I've asked Amanda to change the title of this thread.
It's Friday arvo. I've got nothing better to do. ;)

Have a good match.

amanda
13th July 2005, 09:56 AM
Thanks AndyP :)

Jim - any idea of the cost?

Speirsy11
13th July 2005, 10:06 AM
Guys, I'm going to have to WD....I have to see patients all day and cannot get out of it....Have fun, and hoefully someone can fill my spot....

Speirsy

jimandr
13th July 2005, 08:21 PM
Rob,

You are supposed to click somewhere at the top of the thread to take yourself off the list (although I'm not sure how that works).

I may become one of your future patients. I'm not fit enough to properly play two days in a row, as I have an injury I keep well hidden that flares up with lots of walking.

In a way I'm disappointed you are not playing, as I'm sure you've never played a course anything like Bardwell Valley, and I would've been interested in your thoughts.

I'm sure someone else will fill the vacancy. Particularly as the cost is somewhere around $25 I think.

Grunt
13th July 2005, 08:23 PM
Everyone bags Bardwell Valley but you do have to play smart to beat it, I never have :wink:. It is a great little course, I played there in my early years. Even though I am not that old :lol:

Trung
13th July 2005, 08:28 PM
I would love to play for Spreisy but I'm already booked in at Carnarvon. Only if I knew it last week.

AndyP
14th July 2005, 07:09 AM
Rob,

You are supposed to click somewhere at the top of the thread to take yourself off the list (although I'm not sure how that works).
amanda didn't provide that option. I'll add one so Speirsy can pull out, and someone can take his spot.

amanda
14th July 2005, 09:51 AM
Thanks AndyP :D

jimandr
16th July 2005, 04:09 PM
Despite the 4-0-0 indicator in the topic, we've still got a vacancy, as Spiersy isn't playing.

Any last minute takers with nothing better to do on a Sunday?

Jono
17th July 2005, 07:36 PM
Well ?????!!!!?????

Who won? The Beauty or The Beast? :lol:

jimandr
17th July 2005, 08:23 PM
Thanks for the compliment Jono :wink:

I've sort of been waiting for Amanda to post her story first, to give her the chance to come clean about a few things she did today. However, I'll just have to tell it as I saw it, and let others be the judge.

The Scores:

Jimandr = 29 pts (ahead on countback)
Amanda = 29 pts
Brad = 28 pts (comprising nines of 9pts and 19pts)

The Match Result:

Jimandr defeated Amanda 1 up.

Naturally the score doesn't go close to telling the full story.

The first thing to say is that the weather was difficult, almost Shellharbour strength breeze, and the course was set up ultra difficult to cater for Masters Pennants players. Every flag in the most difficult spot they could find. Some were unfair. It was possible on at least 4 holes to putt 5 feet past, and on the right line have the ball roll back to you. Similar to a few of the Riverside Oaks pins.

We started on the 9th, as the pennant players were still on the 1st. We followed the spirit of the MatchPlay index, as per the Rules. I gave Amanda 15 shots, so it was every hole except our 1st (the 9th), our 9th (the 17th), and our 17th (the 7th). This didn't make much difference to the final result. I also gave Amanda 2 shots on two holes that were par 5's for her, but par 4's for me.

We were close all day. Never more than 2 holes difference. I was 2 up with 6 to play, then 1 down with two to play (after hitting my 6 iron to 6 feet, but losing the hole after I missed the birdie putt).

I won our 17th, mainly because I didn't give away a shot, to make it all square up the last. Amanda was pin high, 10 yards to the right of the green with a difficult bump and run chip up a steep hill, while I was on the green, only about 15 ft from the hole, but with a near impossible downhill curler. I was giving her a shot. Advantage Amanda. She left her chip short, chipped again to the edge of the green. Advantage Jim. I left my impossible putt 4 feet short, leaving another difficult putt. Amanda missed her sidehill curler, which finished 5 ft down the hill, then charged the next one 6 feet past, missed that, and picked up her ball in disgust. I missed my four footer, but holed the next four footer to claim the win.

Very lucky for me. Amanda had me beaten but let me win. Maybe she felt guilty that I offered her a lifeline as the substitute when Gary couldn't play.

Other highlights. At our 1st hole, the ninth, we all hit the green, but miles from the hole. I left my 65 footer 10 feet short. Brad left his 60 footer 10 feet short. Amanda smashed her 40 footer 15 ft past, and off the green :!: (She still won the hole). At the very next hole she followed it up with a very classy par for 4 points.

Brad lost a ball in a GUR area (that doubles up as a rubbish dump), took a free drop, chipped to the edge of the green and holes a 30 footer for an amazing par and three points. As punishment, two holes later he lost a ball in a place just off the fairway where it should not have been possible to lose a ball.

Amanda played pretty well for 12 of the holes, but when she had wipes she had big and bad ones. 4 times she didn't make the green before either picking up or giving up after losing balls. This made her a hard matchplay opponent, as the other 12 were either pars or bogeys on holes I was giving away a stroke.

Brad is suffering through a damaged shoulder, and possibly shouldn't be playing golf. His restricted swing simply wasn't working. He then reverted to a painful fuller swing, which brought good results. Is the on-going pain worth the small amount of golfing pleasure?

I hit the ball very well, but was a victim of some really hard pin placements, making up & downs very difficult, and any putt over 5 feet hard to hole.

I still enjoyed it. Bardwell Valley has an open event every Sunday. It would be interesting to see how some of the other OzGolfers handle its quirks and challenges. It is not an easy course, despite its par of 62.

Jono
17th July 2005, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the compliment Jono :wink:


:smt078    


Well played Jim.  Bad luck Mandy.  It seems like you lost it in a similar way to your match with Gary.  Down to the last hole and duffing the chip ...  I tend to duff chips under pressure as well ...  :cry:

Jarro
18th July 2005, 03:16 AM
well done Jim .. congrats on the win 8)

Mandy, what can i say .... bad luck is all i suppose :(

glad to hear it was a close match ..... jusy how matchplay should be :wink:

amanda
18th July 2005, 06:53 AM
1up losses seem to be my speciality!

Jim's report is extremely accurate - on the last hole I just lost the plot - went with a risky 5w to the green that was my demise :?

I had a fun day though - made 4 or 5 pars, one on the hardest hole of the course. Unfortunately, because it's long par 3s or par 4s, I hardly got to use my new irons - I hit the 6i once (1st hole) and the 5i once.

The course definitely highlighted my short game deficiencies - I just had no idea how to play some types of shots - especially to elevated greens and one that was Pinehurst-#2-esque. Control over the distance in my 9i for approach shots was severely lacking.

Funny but I'm looking forward to playing this course again - there were some patchy areas of the fairway and tee areas, but greens were very well maintained and very fast.

The wind was a shocker - however, it was good training as I'm playing NSW with marcel today :D

brad
18th July 2005, 11:58 AM
about time brad got a word in anyway.

To bloody right

brad
18th July 2005, 12:11 PM
I agree with both Jim and amanda in that the course is not only challenging, but interesting. At no time can you just step up to the ball and hit it without thinking of fairway speed/contour, green speed or contour.

The wind was a definite thorn, but I think the score proves my swing on the first 10 holes was worse.

For those of you playing at home, don't play with a sore shoulder, it just gets worse. After the game, with it being warm, I felt pretty good. Today is a fair shocker.

Although, if this is the last time I play golf in the next 6 months, at least my last 8 holes netted me 19 points.

jimandr
18th July 2005, 08:50 PM
Some extraordinary results from Sunday's play in the Sydney papers today, showing how difficult it was in the wind. At my course the fourball winning score was 42.

The most amazing of all was Bardwell Valley. It was a small field due to the Pennants, but the winning score (no fourball, only an individual) was 34 points.

The women's winner was one A White (aka our Amanda) credited with 30 points.

The computer was giving her 30 pts when the scores were entered, although we all thought she had 29. On reflection, I suspect the long par 4 4th may have been a par 5 for women, thus giving Amanda a par 5 and 3 points (she won this hole anyway, so the score didn't affect the Match).

I suspect the prize would be very small due to a low number of starters, but if we need a reason to go back, collecting this prize is enough.

amanda
19th July 2005, 06:19 AM
Wow jim - I'm shocked! :shock: :shock:

We are definitely going back! :wink:

brad
19th July 2005, 01:02 PM
Congratulations - although I am biased.

Maybe I should walk this one?

amanda
19th July 2005, 01:08 PM
I could always use a caddy :wink:

markTHEblake
19th July 2005, 01:25 PM
Too dangerous for brad, he might do his shoulder in, and keep him off the golf course even longer.

amanda
19th July 2005, 03:25 PM
Finally managed to get on to the pro shop - I won a $15 voucher :D

No idea what to get - perhaps some new iron covers (mine are cut to pieces - after numerous re-sews) or a few golf balls.

Pinglauncher
19th July 2005, 04:21 PM
Put the winnings on your account and save for something good. :wink:

amanda
19th July 2005, 08:38 PM
pinglauncher - but who knows if I'll ever win there again! :lol: