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Fishman Dan
10th June 2005, 08:23 AM
Fee fie foe fum, with Brett Lee coming downhill with the wind, I smell the blood of an English-man. :twisted:

We won the 20-20 game last night with a ball to spare after Gilly and Hayden got off to a flyer. But the impressive part is;

Bowling:
Lee 4-0-25-1 - a wicket with the first ball of the tour :P
McGrath 4-0-28-1 (1w)
Kasprowicz 4-0-41-0 (1nb)
Watson 4-0-35-0
Clarke 4-0-36-3 (2w) (including a hat-trick)

Or;

NSW - 12-0-89-5
QLD - 8-0-76-0

:P

terryand
10th June 2005, 02:46 PM
OK if you really want to start this crap again :roll:

Qld 79 runs

NSW 0 runs

Terry.

Fishman Dan
10th June 2005, 02:59 PM
We'll take Gilly... he's a NSW'man.

NSW - 53 ;)

terryand
10th June 2005, 03:03 PM
We'll take Gilly... he's a NSW'man.

NSW - 53 ;)

Says WA beside his name,can't claim them after you discard em [-X :wink:

Terry.

Jarro
10th June 2005, 03:29 PM
you're kiddin' Fishguts :roll:

cazandpaul
10th June 2005, 03:41 PM
20/20 isn't a game - it's a farce and no good can become of it and anyway, this is an Aussie team, so let's hope everyone goes well :D

Having said that did all the real Queenslanders claim AB, Thommo, Greg Chappell etc as Queenslanders or just southern interlopers :shock:

Really looking forward to this tour - watching some old tour matches on Foxsports and I believe McGrath, Gillespie and Kaspa will thrive - it's up to the batsmen to give them decent totals to bowl at - I reckon Hayden, Martyn and Gilly will do the business.

Lots of late nights over the next few months.

Fishman Dan
10th June 2005, 05:07 PM
AB went to my high school, so i know he's one of the eloper's. Then again so did Gibbo, but you can have him.

CazPaul - you're right tho, this 20/20 game is a joke, although might be good to dust off some cobwebs for the aussies, most haven't wielded the willow in anger for a couple of months.

Good to see Hayden among the runs early though, apparently a screamer of a catch to remove him too.

Jarro
12th June 2005, 06:34 AM
big win by the boys over Leicestershire last night.

Aussies made 4 for 321 with Matty Hayden (107 from 96 balls) and Andrew Symonds (92 not out from 56 balls) stealing the show 8)

Bring on monday night for the 20/20 international :D

AndyP
12th June 2005, 09:37 AM
Just haven't got into this yet. Maybe there's just too much pyjama cricket.

I'm sure I'll be more intrested once the real stuff approaches.

Jarro
14th June 2005, 05:26 AM
first blood to the Poms :x

they gave us a bit of a flogging overnight in the 20/20 match ..... beating us by 100 runs :shock:

England 8/179 after 20 overs. Aus bowled out for 79 :(

not a good start to the tour for the boys.

terryand
14th June 2005, 07:08 AM
Cunning move by th boys 8)

Makes the fall even higher now :wink:

Terry.

Jarro
14th June 2005, 07:15 AM
we lost the first 7 wickets in 20 balls :shock:

don't know if that was part of the plan or not Tezza :? :lol:

.. still a long way to go before the tour is over though :twisted:

markTHEblake
14th June 2005, 09:02 AM
Lost 5 wickets for 1 run against 2nd rate bowlers too.

Fishman Dan
16th June 2005, 01:33 PM
Another dissappointing loss..

But it could have been avoided;

S.Watson - 8.9 overs, 1/72
M.Kaspasomething - 8 overs, 0/89 :shock:
B.Lee - 4 overs, 0/26

I'm stunned. There's just no analogy for having 11 an over scored off you :shock:

Jarro
16th June 2005, 01:39 PM
looks like golden boy Lee might have done himself an injury as well :roll:

Pommies will be rubbing their grubby hands together over that one :lol:

markTHEblake
20th June 2005, 06:37 AM
dunno who the aussies were playing against last night cos they didnt look like poms to me.

Fishman Dan
20th June 2005, 08:16 AM
Watson's antic's were brilliant. Get spanked over cover for a 1-bounce boundary, and he gets into the face of Pietersen? What on earth could you say after a shot like that?

Just walk back to the top of your mark son... :roll:

terryand
20th June 2005, 10:12 AM
Watson's antic's were brilliant. Get spanked over cover for a 1-bounce boundary, and he gets into the face of Pietersen? What on earth could you say after a shot like that?

Just walk back to the top of your mark son... :roll:

Yeah,McGrath and Lee would never do that would they 8)

Terry.

Jarro
20th June 2005, 06:21 PM
i wonder if Lee and Symonds will make THAT big a difference to the side  :?

i mean, Hussey was put into the team at Symonds expence .... but the way he played in the last match, i'd be keeping Hussey in the starting side for sure.

Who they gonna drop  :?:   I know Fishy is always quick to point out when Kaspa is being carted for plenty, but from the highlights i've just watched.. Gillespie was probably the worst offender .. he bowled absolute tripe ... half-volley after half-volley  :roll:

Lee will shake the Poms up with his speed, but if he doesn't get his line and length right quickly, the Poms could really rack up a big score  :shock:

markTHEblake
20th June 2005, 06:58 PM
maybe the aussies are just getting too old. almost the whole team is in the 30's and the poms are almost all in their 20's.

also consider that our current test team, will throw in pensioner Viagra Warne and Langer and throw out babies Watson and Hussey, and they will be needing wheelchairs to field in soon.

at leasr 6 of the current team will most likely be retiring in 2 years time. Australian cricket is pretty strong but will they be able to handle a sudden transition of players if that happens. Didnt go to well when the chappell/marsh/lillee era called it quits.

Bruce
21st June 2005, 08:43 AM
Batting wise they will go alright. The queue is just too deep with quality bats.

Bowling doesn't look as good. McGrath is still the No1 bowler after all these years. Where is the next "once in a generation" bowler going to come from? I'm not sure I see one playing Sheffield Shield.

Fishman Dan
21st June 2005, 09:16 AM
Bowling is fine - McGrath will get bucketloads, Warne will get plenty. Dizzy will go ok from innings to innings, and Kaspa/Bing will take wickets. The problem lies with Ponting's captaincy, and if he applies pressure at the right times, or pulls the right strings to break partnerships.

It's the middle-order collapses that will prevent us posting scores of 550+. Numerous 250-350 scores will mean evenly weighted, 5 day tests. Nothing i care to see ;)

Jarro
24th June 2005, 03:00 AM
Aussies made a nice 266 for 5 overnight

great return from Symonds with 73 from 81 balls , ably supported from Martyn (68 from 81 balls)

.. now, can we take the wickets :roll:

Jarro
24th June 2005, 06:22 AM
we're back baby :D

Lee and McGrath had the poms in trouble at 3 for 6 early on, with Lee in particular bowling really well 8) Symonds bowled really well in his spell also, but Watson, fair dinkum, he was all over the shop :x Must've got spooked sleeping in that haunted hotel the other night :wink: :lol:

late order hitting from Gough made the scores a little closer with the Aussies ending up winning by 57 runs .. but failing to bowl the opposition out :?

terryand
24th June 2005, 06:31 AM
From Foxsports.


England allrounder Andrew Flintoff took 2-55 while Darren Gough provided the sledge of series.

Gough waved his arms ghost-like and cried boo in the face of Australia's Shane Watson, who was reportedly so spooked by staying at Chester-le-Street's 600-year-old Lumley Castle that he slept on the floor of Lee's room.

Classic =D> http://deephousepage.com/smilies/rofl5.gif

Terry.

3oneday
24th June 2005, 07:00 AM
From Foxsports.


England allrounder Andrew Flintoff took 2-55 while Darren Gough provided the sledge of series.

Gough waved his arms ghost-like and cried boo in the face of Australia's Shane Watson, who was reportedly so spooked by staying at Chester-le-Street's 600-year-old Lumley Castle that he slept on the floor of Lee's room.

Classic =D> http://deephousepage.com/smilies/rofl5.gif

Terry.he was really only lying there waiting for a Lee castoff :wink:

Is Watson just there for the one dayers ?? I can't really see why they rate this guy so highly, and now he's proving that he's a big girl as well.

Pete

Jarro
24th June 2005, 07:26 AM
the talk was that he was being groomed for the all-rounder position.

but going by his results so far, i'd sat he's a long way off making the cut :?

Fishman Dan
24th June 2005, 08:14 AM
Not a fan of Shane Watson. He picked up a single wicket today, and guess what - gave the batsmen a mouthful :roll: Not bad for a bloke who went for 50 off 8 before picking up a tail-ender.

Good win, but i'd still like to see us bowling them out. They were 8/150-odd, and still couldn't close out the deal. But Hogg had 4 overs up his sleeve - he should have bowled near the end to close out the deal. I haven't seen too many tail-enders deal with spin at the close of an innings, batsmen like Gough much prefer the ball coming on to the bat.

Jarro
24th June 2005, 08:18 AM
my thoughts exactly Fish ... Hogg would've cleaned 'em up quick smart.

bloody Gillespie and even McGrath to a certain extent .. weren't getting the ball to land in the right spot, and Gough was just standing his ground and going the tonk.

i thought Symonds bowled very well and fully deserved his MOM award.

suppose he felt he owed the boys something :wink:

Fishman Dan
24th June 2005, 08:20 AM
suppose he felt he owed the boys something  :wink:

You reckon it's his first shout at the end of the game? :roll:

Jarro
24th June 2005, 08:34 AM
suppose he felt he owed the boys something  :wink:

You reckon it's his first shout at the end of the game? :roll:

yep .. lemonades all round :lol: :lol:

Jarro
28th June 2005, 03:17 PM
a bit late on this :oops:

Symonds comes back from a 2 game suspension, plays 2 matches .. gets 2 MOM awards 8)

not bad for a Queenslander 'eh Fishy :wink:

Fishman Dan
28th June 2005, 03:24 PM
Correct.

You are too late. Allowed this to go through to the 'keeper ;)

You'll see at the start of this thread that i thought he was noticeably absent in the first game(s). But there's 1 thing still in common, he is still suffering from brainfartalitis - this one was off the field, that's all.

Jarro
28th June 2005, 03:27 PM
geez Fish you're a hard marker :roll:

Fishman Dan
28th June 2005, 03:47 PM
geez Fish you're a hard marker  :roll:

Well you can't say that going out on the pi$$ the night before a game is a particularly wise move, can you?

Is there a game tonight? Aren't we playing the Poms soon?

cazandpaul
28th June 2005, 03:48 PM
When you are playing for Australia (and for big bucks) you have to show some degree of professionalism which includes, rightly or wrongly, your private life. These people are idolised by cricket followers Australia wide and present a very bad image which does rub off on the whole team.

There is no denying the cricketing ability of any of the Aussie players but in my opinion, and on the facts as we know them, AS was lucky not to be on the first plane home.

And if Warney's current problems are likely to affect his game send him home now and get SCG McGill into the action.

Jarro
28th June 2005, 04:27 PM
the whole Symonds thing seems so out of character for ANY aussie cricketer .. i can't remember the last time i heard of a player turning up on the day of a game pissed :?

funny thing though, the first game he missed, the Aussies really underperformed against the minows Bangladesh ... wonder if any of the other boys were under the weather too :wink:

Fishman Dan
28th June 2005, 10:36 PM
Watson out, Michael (the Future of Australian Cricket) Clarke, in.

0/14 off the first over - track looks like it's belter.

Jarro
29th June 2005, 03:31 AM
Aussies made a good 261 off their 50 overs for the loss of 9 wickets.

Symonds was the star (again) with 74 off 75 balls including 6 fours and 2 sixes 8)

bloody raining now though with the pommies 0/8 off 3 overs.

looks like D/L is gonna decide this match :?

Fishman Dan
29th June 2005, 05:26 PM
Ok - Mat the Bat's dummy spit.

He had every right to fire up after being ping'd by the bowler. But it's not really in his nature to stay cranky, he chested up, mouthed off and got upset over it. He was obviously rattled and he was out pretty soon after. Looked like he went into his shell after a blazing start.

He's copping some flack and i agree. He should have sucked it in, waited for the next ball and dispatched it into the bleaches, or at least tried.

To be fair, i think Jones was going to peg the ball at the stumps and tried to stop beyond the point of no retun, that's why it hit the deck and got him chest high.

And Martyn's dismissal sucked. That says more about this Piertersen fella than the umpires.

Should say that i don't think Matt did the wrong thing at all, but in hindsight he should have let the willow do the talking.

[Jarro - did you delete your post??]

terryand
29th June 2005, 05:41 PM
I thought he restrained himself very well not smackin him over the head with his bat :smt075

Terry.

cazandpaul
30th June 2005, 05:32 AM
The Jones boy was quick to apologise (as you would with Matty coming after you with a lump of wood :shock: ) and it was just one of those things.

The catch - looked like it was grassed to me and everyone else except that boofhead Botham who said it was definately out. :roll:

Jarro
30th June 2005, 01:23 PM
the catch was definetly a NoT a catch as far as i was concerned too.

Marto had every right to stand his ground

Fishman Dan
30th June 2005, 01:30 PM
the catch was definetly a NoT a catch as far as i was concerned too.

Marto had every right to stand his ground

It was apparent that some part of the ball made contact with the ground. A half-decent cricketer would have claimed the catch, but told the umpires that he's not 100% sure.

Perhaps he was 100% sure? But on the other hand, who in the Australian team would have done the same, and who do you think would have told the umpires that he wasn't completely sure he'd taken the catch and they should go upstairs to check?

AndyP
30th June 2005, 02:05 PM
My opinion after seeing only one slow-mo replay of "the catch":roll:, is that, although it was grounded, it never left his hands.

Jarro
30th June 2005, 02:08 PM
but i'm sure the rule states that no part of the ball may touch the ground :?

for it to be a fair catch, he would have had to have had his fingers underneath the ball at some stage, which i don't think he did.

Fishman Dan
30th June 2005, 02:11 PM
but i'm sure the rule states that no part of the ball may touch the ground

Exactly right. He may have had a finger under the ball, but some part of that ball was touching the ground - not out.

AndyP
30th June 2005, 02:14 PM
Exactly right. He may have had a finger under the ball, but some part of that ball was touching the ground - not out.
There you go. You learn something every day. Not out.

My mate, Marto, was robbed. :x :wink:

Jarro
30th June 2005, 02:15 PM
i know its a non-event now, but i wonder how the Aussies would have reacted if it was in the deciding game of the one-day series :?

Jarro
2nd July 2005, 08:34 PM
Natwest one day final tonight.

Aussies lost the toss and were put in to bat.

at the moment they're 4/93 after 23 overs .. and doing it tough against Harmison and Flintoff :(

AndyP
3rd July 2005, 12:03 AM
Not doing it tough anymore. Set a target of 197.
Doesn't sound that much, but the Poms are currently 5 for 36. :D

Jarro
3rd July 2005, 05:56 AM
what a result.

can't remember the last time Australia and England tied a game :smt017

have to say though, even though we struggled to get the 196 .. the Poms should've been all out for a lot less after being 5/33.

McGrath is the best bowler of modern times without doubt. Never have i seen a bowler hit the perfect line and length so regularly .. the man is a machine.

Man of the series was Andrew Symonds ... not a bad response after being dropped for the first couple of matches 8)

can't wait for the Test series to start =P~

McMw
3rd July 2005, 08:51 AM
from fox - The tie was just the second between Australia and England in 82 one-day internationals.

Jarro
20th July 2005, 03:41 PM
tomorrow night it all starts for real 8) :D

Hope the Aussies smash that cocky Pietersen .. man he's been mouthing off lately :twisted:

Gillespie or Kaspa :?: :?: who's gonna get the start :?

McMw
20th July 2005, 03:58 PM
if u have Lee in as a certain, I'll go with Kaspa...no point having 3 similar type bowlers...kaspa will "hopefully" be able to settle in with some nice swingers....

Bruce
20th July 2005, 04:13 PM
I like Kaspa too. He is the epitome of the first change bowler. Works his butt off with the old ball and is capable of removing a 'set' batsman.

I never thought I'd see the day when I would advocate the selection of Lee over Gillespie. A little piece of me just died.

The last time Australia lost at Lords was 1934. The Poms played into our hands when they set up the schedule. Late in the season with dry, fast pitches and the opening game at one of our favourite venues with the better chance of getting out to a series lead. The Fools. :twisted:

They should have started us on a greentop at Headingly or something - that would have been a chance to put us on the back foot.

cazandpaul
21st July 2005, 04:27 AM
It's finally here - get home from work tonight and bolt the TV on to Foxsports - hope Kerry O'Keefe is doing the commentary 8)

markTHEblake
21st July 2005, 05:44 PM
You got me confused Pauly, I thought it was on SBS. So i see its on both, I wonder why.

Also The comic known as "The Sandman" is hosting a cricket show on SBS in Sat Sun nights at 9.30, during the lunch break I suppose. Apparently he is also a qualified Cricket Umpire. Should be good watching.

Jarro
21st July 2005, 06:25 PM
Aussies have struck the first blow ... winning the toss :D

Kaspa is OUT , Gillespie is IN ... i thought for sure Kaspa would have got the nod, but looks like they're gonna give Dizzy every chance to get his mojo back :?

Fishman Dan
21st July 2005, 07:05 PM
CRUNCH!!!

Awesome cover-drive from Langer... 0/30. Cop that!

The thing about that great first over, was that we got bashed but it was still 0-9. Now we've found our feet at 0-30 after 7 overs - and Hayden/Langer are only just getting 'in'.

Fishman Dan
21st July 2005, 07:25 PM
Now Ponting's copped a nasty one..

Nervous start for both teams i think. He was nowhere near it.

3oneday
21st July 2005, 07:27 PM
Drop Hayden :P :P :x :P :P










Sorry, wanted to get in before Andippy, :lol: :lol: :lol:

AndyP
21st July 2005, 07:32 PM
Drop Hayden.







Oh wait, somebody already said that. :roll:

AndyP
21st July 2005, 07:53 PM
4/66.

Well, this isn't going to plan. :shock: :(

terryand
21st July 2005, 08:02 PM
4/66.

Well, this isn't going to plan.  :shock:  :(

Yes it is...5 for less than 100...

All out 500 plus....thats standard isn't it 8)

Terry.

damoocow
21st July 2005, 08:25 PM
sing after me ...ENGLAND.......ENGLAND.......ENGLAND

whoo hoo

damoocow

markTHEblake
21st July 2005, 08:27 PM
thats it, England is in trouble now.

Gilchrist always makes 150* from this position, and now we will be reminded that Gillespie was picked as a batsman not a bowler.

3oneday
21st July 2005, 08:37 PM
The next session should be a bottler !!!!

Fishman Dan
21st July 2005, 08:46 PM
Clarke was robbed - 3 Aussies hit in the head with all the bounce in the pitch, and he's given for a half-tracker going down leg side and over. When you're out of form, these things happen.

markTHEblake
21st July 2005, 09:41 PM
The red tracker thingy showed it hit the stumps - just.
got me buggared how Rudy has a good enough eye to pick it though.

3oneday
21st July 2005, 10:15 PM
The red tracker thingy showed it hit the stumps - just.
got me buggared how Rudy has a good enough eye to pick it though.when it hit, my first impression was out, technology will always make an umpire look bad.... did I hear one of the commentators say the ball that got Langer out was a no ball ??? this would be a perfect example I suppose....

Pete

Ona
21st July 2005, 10:48 PM
200 would have been good on that pitch :roll:

:(

McMw
21st July 2005, 11:39 PM
well...the only thing that went to plan is McGrath getting his 500th...

who would have thought 2 innings would be play on the first day... :roll:

Jarro
22nd July 2005, 01:48 AM
awesome first day's play so far :shock:

bloods been spilled, records have been broken and now the poms are throwing champagne bottle corks onto the sacred Lords oval :lol:

i think we all knew the Poms would come out at 100MPH to start with, it was just whether or not our boys could survive the initial onslaught .... which it looks like we didn't .... so now, it's game on.

190 will still be a good total to start with though, the Poms are currently 5/79 .. and looking a little cautious :roll:

should be a great series, especially after this start :D

3oneday
22nd July 2005, 04:08 AM
Ooooh AAhhh with 5/21, what a bowler :shock: :shock:

Poms 7/98  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: gee, we could even bat with a lead (if our ability to get a tail out changes :lol:  :lol: )

Pete

goughy
22nd July 2005, 05:16 AM
Man, I just saw one of mcgrath's bowled, the one that stayed low and took a right hand turn. That must be the nastiest wicket. Is that how they expect to beat us?

Maybe they should remember that they've gotta be able to bat on it too.

AndyP
22nd July 2005, 05:51 AM
sing after me ...AUSSIE.......AUSSIE......AUSSIE

Whoo hoo


:smt016

Bruce
22nd July 2005, 10:05 AM
I went to bed last night at tea feeling a little nervous. The Pom bowlers put up a good show - I really like Harmison's work. It's been a long time since anyone was sharp enough to hit Punter on the scone.

Woke up at 2:30 and put the radio on to find that Pigeon had run amok and the Poms were back on the ropes.

I wouldn't call it a bad wicket, but the bowling was good and there were a lot of fairly loose shots played. Hayden, Martyn and Gilchrist were all bad shots. I didn't think Clarke was hard done by. My immediate reaction was 'Out'. I don't trust Hawkeye too much. I remember it showing a ball missing the stumps despite the fact that said stumps had been knocked over.

Bruce
22nd July 2005, 12:21 PM
And aren't the Poms talking it up. Check out the write-ups on Cricinfo (among others).

We totally took it up to the Aussies.
We're not gunna get pushed around any more.
Aussie batsman wilt under fire.

Then 1 short paragraph about being 7 for 98 and likely to have a fair deficit on the first innings.

Fishman Dan
22nd July 2005, 10:14 PM
I stayed up - it was a pretty special spell of bowling. He couldn't do anything wrong.

Pretty ordinary batting though. Ordinary pitch, but each of those wickets that hit the stumps went right through the gate.

Jarro
23rd July 2005, 02:27 AM
well the boys seem to have bounced back in their 2nd dig .... nice 91 from "wonderboy" (he needed to do something soon)

can anyone see the Poms chasing 300+ to win the match :?:

McMw
23rd July 2005, 04:15 PM
should be all over tonight I reckon...

pitch sounds like it's gonna favour McGrath if he spots it...and Warney should just pitch it on line with minimal spin to extract full benefit from a dodgy pitch...

Jarro
24th July 2005, 03:11 AM
great 67 from Katich has put us well and truly on top now .... Poms chase started Ok, but once the Aussies got their first wicket at 80 ... the poms fell to bits 8)

finished up they're 5/156 ... still needing around 250 more ..... NO CHANCE :lol:

good to see Warney get a few (3) wickets .... he should clean up the tail pretty quickly from here..

Bruce
24th July 2005, 08:11 AM
Just as one swallow does not a summer make - Two sessions aren't going to win back the ashes.

They have been comprehensibly beaten since tea on Day 1.

Fishman Dan
24th July 2005, 08:44 AM
Jarro - you forgot to say:

Good to see Brett Lee get wickets. He's been quick too. Great first wicket - much too quick for Strauss, got him with the old "UP PERISCOPE!" :lol:

damoocow
24th July 2005, 09:22 PM
looks like the rain might save the Aussies

damoocow

Jarro
25th July 2005, 05:16 AM
no chance Moo ...... 1 down, 4 to go ...... Aussies showed that there is still a big gap between the sides in terms of talent :D

3oneday
25th July 2005, 07:30 AM
no chance Moo ...... 1 down, 4 to go ...... Aussies showed that there is still a big gap between the sides in terms of talent  :Dand heart :wink:

Pete

Jarro
25th July 2005, 07:33 AM
if you look at it in terms of ticker, Pietersen was the ONLY batsman who looked capable of standing his ground and dishing it up to the Aussie bowlers.

Very easy to talk yourself up before the series starts, but from the first ball bowled ... time for talking is gone :wink:

Jarro
2nd August 2005, 04:51 PM
Kaspa has to ba a chance to force his way back into the test side after grabbing 5/67 in the tour match against Worcestire

Fishman Dan
2nd August 2005, 05:15 PM
No changes. He rolled a High School team ffs :roll:

Drop Dizzy because he wasn't allowed to bowl enough overs? Besides, he made a 50* in the same game ;)

Jarro
2nd August 2005, 05:36 PM
still think Kaspa would've been better value on that flat lords wicket ... he bowls a more consistent line than Dizzy.

Jarro
4th August 2005, 07:16 PM
OUCH :!:

McGrath is out during the warmup, rolled ankle .... and now Brett Lee is getting pasted to all parts byTrescothik :roll:

not a good start by our boys :x

Warne dropped a chance of Dizzy's second over as well #-o

Grunt
4th August 2005, 07:41 PM
Kapsprowicz just has trescothic caught off a no-ball :cry:

Bruce
4th August 2005, 07:43 PM
What a disgraceful first hour of bowling.

Brett Lee MUST GO!!! He has played Tescothick and Strauss nicely into form with a steady diet of half volleys. I knew Lords was a false dawn and with Pigeon going down in the warm-up he will likely play every test. :evil:

No movement means they are swinging with confidence and Dizzy getting cover driven on the up.

And the Kaspa gets a catch on his forth no-ball during his second over.

Just shithouse.

McMw
4th August 2005, 09:11 PM
bah....just one session...
why get so worked up??? :shock:

Bruce
4th August 2005, 09:12 PM
23 boundaries hit in the first session.

That's an awful lot of tripe to send down in 27 overs.

McMw
4th August 2005, 09:15 PM
surely u didn't think England was gonna roll over like the first test???
more shots were defn gonna be played this time around...

don't worry...the aussies will bite back rest of the day... :D

Jarro
5th August 2005, 06:15 AM
be interesting to see if the Poms can get anything out of that flat pitch .... looks as dead as :?

shame for McGrath to get injured too, they say he won't be back 'till the 3rd test :(

terryand
5th August 2005, 06:41 AM
After last night I can see how Kasper kept Lee out of the test team for 18 months :?

The man has nothing to offer on a flat track....Maybe juicy half volleys :roll:

Terry.

Jarro
5th August 2005, 06:50 AM
agreed Tezza.

The weather will help Australia get out of this test with a draw, either that or our guys bat for 4 days :lol:

The pressure will be really on the quicks in the next test though, and i think Dizzy has really got to step up to the mark and bowl in tandem with Warne to try and strangle the Pommie batsman, like McGrath and Warne did in the first test.

Kaspa bowled a decent line last night, and can back up the strike bowlers with good line and length .....

.. but Dizzy and Lee, well, they really need to lift their game from this point on :?

miro
5th August 2005, 08:14 AM
All out for 400 or so is another great escape by our boys. I feared waking up to 3 for 380 the way they were going by lunch.

Time for our batsmen to perform (finally). String together 500 over 1 and a half days and the poms could still lose this one -how devestating and amusing would that be!

3oneday
5th August 2005, 08:19 AM
the poms could still lose this one -how devestating and amusing would that be!only if McGrath has a facelift to make him look like Lee and replaces him............

I coulda hit some of those half volleys to the fence, and I can't really recall the last time there was over 50 boundaries in a day ??

:lol: :lol:

AndyP
5th August 2005, 08:37 AM
How good was that first wicket of Warney's? What a legend!

miro
5th August 2005, 08:48 AM
How good was that first wicket of Warney's?  What a legend!

Especially for an old bloke who can't "spin a ball anymore".

Jarro
5th August 2005, 09:02 AM
i just wonder whether we are going to rely on him a bit too much now that pidgeon is out for a little while :?

Warne is a world-class bowler for sure, but the other 3 are gonna have to step up bigtime if we're gonna win this series now.

terryand
5th August 2005, 01:46 PM
For Warney to serve up ball like that in the first session of a test just goes to show what a genius and legend he is =D>

Terry.

Reg del SamI
5th August 2005, 02:22 PM
Caught a bit of this last night on the telly. Some good lip happening between Warney and Flintoff, and even his old mate Pietersen. Bet it wasn't about blonde tips.

Going to be a good test now. I'm tipping Martyn for a big score - Australia's best batsman on all types of wickets (Ponting's the best on quick pitches).

Bruce
5th August 2005, 03:46 PM
You're right there Reg. Freddy wasn't picking Warney at all. He was even getting beaten by Hack Lee. The problem is that even his mis-hits can go for six.

The Poms could have made a lot more. Having seen all the wickets now, they are all from a certain "over exuberance". If the Aussies can cut out those and still put away the bad balls there shouldn't be too many issues.

Fishman Dan
5th August 2005, 05:32 PM
What part of the last 100+ years of cricket history did Ponting fail to take it?

What a ****wit.

Fishman Dan
5th August 2005, 07:06 PM
Tell you what - they'd want to be watching the No Balls closer..

Ponting tugged Harmy away to the boundary off a No Ball. 5 runs.

2 balls later, same dose on a legit delivery. Replay showed he was miles over again..

terryand
6th August 2005, 06:54 PM
Now this is getting interesting @ 3/29

Terry.

Fishman Dan
6th August 2005, 07:48 PM
4/31 or whatever, and should have been 5-for....

Fishman Dan
6th August 2005, 07:53 PM
GOT 'IM!

Cheat got what he deserved... certainly didn't hit his hands after the bat had swung through.

Call it square. Read about it in the papers tomorrow ;)

McMw
6th August 2005, 10:49 PM
282 to win for the aussies....possible??? :shock:

Fishman Dan
6th August 2005, 11:38 PM
Very possible. Just need some partnerships.

Langer and Hayden have a 100 partnership, and they're due, then it's 180 all of a sudden. And if they find their feet, they'll add runs quickly.

A lot hinges on whether Giles can trouble us.. and here he comes now.

Jarro
6th August 2005, 11:49 PM
2 whole days to get the runs too, we don't need to anything stupid ... just occupy the crease and wait for the Poms to bowl a lemon.

Should win it from here 8)

oh yeah, i only saw little snippets of the Poms knock whilst at work this evening ..... was Warney back to his vintage days or what :?: from the comments i've read on the internet so far, seems like he's back to his cunning best :wink:

Fishman Dan
7th August 2005, 12:02 AM
As soon as i read.....


Should win it from here..

....Langer's off-stump got pegged back.

Australia 1, Jarro 1.

Jarro
7th August 2005, 12:04 AM
:oops:

Grunt
7th August 2005, 06:26 AM
i think we are goooone!!!!!

AndyP
7th August 2005, 07:24 AM
I'd just like to thank Brett Lee for his crap bowling against Flintoff and the tail and giving the Poms those badly needed extra runs (he's pretty dumb, isn't he?). Kaspa had a nice 20 run over in there too. :x

Jarro
7th August 2005, 07:55 AM
don't think we can blame the bowlers too much this time AndyP, i mean, Lee did make a mess of their top order ... and Flintoff did hit all the bowlers pretty well, including Warne.

It's ben our batting that's been a bit ordinary.

McMw
7th August 2005, 10:36 AM
reckon the boys should do well enough to gurantee a 1.30pm tee off time somewhere... :roll: :roll:

Fishman Dan
7th August 2005, 06:55 PM
don't think we can blame the bowlers too much this time AndyP, i mean, Lee did make a mess of their top order ... and Flintoff did hit all the bowlers pretty well, including Warne.

It's ben our batting that's been a bit ordinary.

It was our captain who decided to bowl first. Nothing else - this pitch was a road to bat on first.

Memories of the MCG, 1983? come to mind. Except we don't have any Allan Border's, just 2 x Jeff Thomson's at the crease.

It can be done, likelihood is that it won't be..

Fishman Dan
7th August 2005, 07:10 PM
How long will it take the commentators to realise he kicked the stumps?? The ball missed by 2 feet...

drunken
7th August 2005, 07:36 PM
so what's been happening?? I'm at work :roll:

Grunt
7th August 2005, 07:47 PM
I may have to eat my words we may get away with this!!!

Trung
7th August 2005, 08:16 PM
Bloody h*ll, finally my heart is back to normal pace now.. Bad luck to the aussies. great effort..

Fishman Dan
7th August 2005, 08:18 PM
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Damn.

Grunt
7th August 2005, 08:19 PM
wow what a finish!!!!

AndyP
7th August 2005, 08:31 PM
Oh Bugger! Why do I have to come home only to see a run chase of 4 fail. Curse me. :(

Bruce
7th August 2005, 08:35 PM
So many "might of" moments that come up with a 2 run result. Aussies played badly and almost pinched a test victory.

The Aussies were ordinary for large patches, the Poms were quite good for times. Both teams need to learn a thing or two about wrapping up the tail. Look up Lillee in the Perth phone directory.

3oneday
7th August 2005, 08:46 PM
damn

terryand
7th August 2005, 09:35 PM
Boy thats a hard pill to swallow :smt011

Terry.

Ona
7th August 2005, 09:58 PM
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :cry:

Jarro
8th August 2005, 08:11 AM
i never saw any of it last night, but from what i've just read it must've been nail-biting stuff :shock:

good to see the tailenders make a dent in the Poms confidence. I suppose Harmison and Co were throwing down plenty of short stuff at Warney too :roll:

3rd Test should be interesting, i wonder if Ricky will send them in again if he wins another toss :P

Flowergirl
8th August 2005, 02:44 PM
I just loved the Aussies in the crowd - they started at "99 to go, 99 to go - hey hoy the derryio 99 to go" and that went on after every run that was made. It must have driven the poms in the crowd so wild when it got down to "4 runs to go 4 runs to go" :D
It was great stuff. I throughly enjoyed it and has got my enthusiam back for cricket.

cazandpaul
8th August 2005, 03:04 PM
Didn't want to get excited........didn't want to get excited.......didn't want to get excited........got excited and we lost - Ricky and I will take the blame :oops:

Grunt
8th August 2005, 03:10 PM
See today's papers are saying Kaspers hand was off the bat, therefore not part of it. So he was NOT OUT :x

CHEATING POMS & PACIFIC POM UMPIRE :evil:


Lets get square on Thursday guys and give them a real thrashing, a 3 day innings + lots of runs defeat.

Flowergirl
8th August 2005, 03:20 PM
Please stay out of this thread FG...its for blokes only !!!!
Like a chick knows anything about cricket. :roll:

I know things that would make your hair curl Ricky baby :twisted:

3oneday
8th August 2005, 03:32 PM
See today's papers are saying Kaspers hand was off the bat, therefore not part of it. So he was NOT OUT :x

CHEATING POMS & PACIFIC POM UMPIRE :evil: wasn't Billy Bowden was it ?? he didn't seem to know the difference between out and not out for most of the test.....

Must have had his mind in the field somewhere :roll: :wink:

:shock: :shock:

Grunt
8th August 2005, 03:34 PM
Yeah it was the Crooked Finger

McMw
8th August 2005, 03:46 PM
surely billy would be under review for wat was a poor umpiring test match...

3oneday
8th August 2005, 03:47 PM
surely billy would be under review for wat was a poor umpiring test match...I agree with you McMw....

There you go, I said it.............

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bruce
9th August 2005, 12:24 PM
Combine that with the worst LBW 'not out' decision in the history of the world when he gave Simon Jones the benefit. Billy had a bad match.

Jarro
9th August 2005, 12:26 PM
is Bowden officiating in the next test as well :?

damoocow
10th August 2005, 08:22 AM
Hope you lot aren't choking on your sour grapes ! - get over it ............the better team won.............

damoocow

3oneday
10th August 2005, 08:26 AM
Hope you lot aren't choking on your sour grapes ! - get over it ............the better team won.............

damoocowwas your other eye not working as well ??? :P :P

:lol: :lol:

Jarro
10th August 2005, 08:35 AM
Hope you lot aren't choking on your sour grapes ! - get over it ............the better team won.............

damoocow

the better team didn't win, they just buggered up at the toss :evil:

The Poms knew they were bloody lucky to get away with that one as well .... you could see by the look on Vaughan's face at the post-match interviews :roll:

Bring on game 3 :twisted:

sominc
10th August 2005, 10:09 AM
Cant wait too see a good thrashing of the poms :twisted:

Jarro
10th August 2005, 01:15 PM
me either, lets just hope the Aussie boys lift a gear and show us what they can really do 8)

Fishman Dan
10th August 2005, 06:15 PM
Ponting lost us the series batting 2nd at Edgbaston.

If Lee is out next game we need more than a miracle. Either Stuart comes into the team, or MacGill - so 2 leggies with no (form) strike pacemen.

Either way it's a NSW'man :P

Grunt
10th August 2005, 06:17 PM
Lee looks like making it, I agree with you about Ponting losing it.

Pinglauncher
11th August 2005, 06:19 PM
The latest info from Cricinfo.com

England have won the toss and will bat. Both Lee and McGrath passed fit and playing with Kaspa missing out.

C'mon Aussies

Fishman Dan
11th August 2005, 06:20 PM
McGRATH IN!!!

Kaspa out. Poor bastard. The best thing for him would be to play to forget about the last test...

Anyway.... McGRATH IN!

Grunt
11th August 2005, 06:31 PM
Poms batting first

Lets see if McGrath is really fit

Fishman Dan
11th August 2005, 07:05 PM
THAT'S why Brett Lee is in the team! WHAT A JAFFA! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I bloody love The Ashes!

Fishman Dan
11th August 2005, 07:13 PM
THAT'S why Brett Lee is in the team! WHAT A JAFFA!  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

I bloody love The Ashes!

Ditto.

Eag's
11th August 2005, 07:30 PM
THAT'S why Brett Lee is in the team! WHAT A JAFFA! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I bloody love The Ashes!

Ditto.

Do you have these conversations with yourself often Fishy :smt017 8-[

Jarro
11th August 2005, 07:36 PM
well, looks like Dizzy has kept his fine form up.

1-0-10-1 :roll:

Bring back Kaspa :P

Grunt
11th August 2005, 09:26 PM
Lets hope warnie gets a bowl soom to carve up the poms or it may be a long night/ couple of days.

Grunt
11th August 2005, 10:01 PM
Off to bed, lets hope I wake up with a better result that my gut feelong is giving at the momemt.

McMw
11th August 2005, 10:07 PM
gonna be a tough score to chase in aus's first inning...

McMw
11th August 2005, 10:21 PM
'nuff said.... :lol: :lol: :lol:


39.4 Warne to Vaughan, FOUR, short and a bit of width, sits up and says 'Spank me!' Vaughan obliges

Fishman Dan
11th August 2005, 10:53 PM
gonna be a tough score to chase in aus's first inning...

If we can pick up 2-3 quick wickets it's back on par. But this pitch has heaps of runs in it.

The county game played recently on it - scores were something like 9/560 dec, beaten by 4/630-something.

But Ponting gets better and better. New batsman at the crease, put on Katich. :roll:

miro
12th August 2005, 08:18 AM
Allow me to be the first to state

the Poms are going to win the Ashes!! :oops:

From the day our boys stepped onto pommie turf they have looked completely out of form. And nothing has changed. (Imagine a day when Ghilli drops to catches in an hour :shock: ). A big break before the series has done none of the team any good. Unless some remarkable turnaround in batting form occurs we are in for a touch up.

Also if we lose I think the selectors may have a few things to answer for. Gillespie in particular has not looked test class. Kaspa is clearly in better form and yet gets ignored.

Finally, Pontings captaincy (I am an ex Tassie guy so him and Boonie are heros) has been at best second class to date.

I am posting this on the basis that as soon as someone writes this stuff the Aussie team will turn it on and make me look like a goose! :lol:

Bruce
12th August 2005, 09:45 AM
Dropped catches and the bowled on a no-ball have now accounted for almost 200 runs.

A return to the bad old days of Aussie fielding.

3 or 4 wickets before lunch on day 1 would have made for an entirely different innings from the Poms.

Jarro
12th August 2005, 02:42 PM
i agree Ponting's captaincy has been a little ordinary ..... :roll:

hope the lads can find some form with the bat though, otherwise we'll be down 2 - 1 before we know it

3oneday
12th August 2005, 02:50 PM
i agree Ponting's captaincy has been a little ordinary .....  :roll: I am of the firm belief that his captaincy has been average to say the least, and who is the person that insists on having Gillespie in the team ??

Gilchrist was lethargic yesterday, they are really lacking in a few areas, the returns to Gilly were rubbish as well.

At this stage I am beginning to think we are in serious serious trouble, we seem to lack the ability to actually grab a game by the scruff of the neck and win it. I hope I am wrong.

Pete

amanda
12th August 2005, 02:57 PM
I reckon that this bad play is all part of the Australian trap to blow out the odds so they can put some money on themselves and win it in the last!

Jarro
12th August 2005, 03:15 PM
and who is the person that insists on having Gillespie in the team ??


Ponting is on record as saying he's a huge Dizzy fan ... so obviously he's pushing Gillespie's barrow.

markTHEblake
12th August 2005, 03:23 PM
This is the first time that the Australians have played against a 1st class bowling attack for quite some time, and the poms are not so bad at batting either.


That amounts to quite a bit more pressure than they have ever experienced before

Fishman Dan
12th August 2005, 05:33 PM
Miro - i think you'll find i declared Ponting cost us the Ashes somewhere in the 2nd test. Technically, that's a tip for the Poms ;) :lol:

But in case you weren't sure on where i stand on the issue - Ponting cost us the Ashes.

Be back in 2 hours for an update on my view.

Grunt
12th August 2005, 07:05 PM
Lee is really bowling us back into this.

markTHEblake
12th August 2005, 07:54 PM
Miro - i think you'll find i declared Ponting cost us the Ashes somewhere in the 2nd test. Technically, that's a tip for the Poms ;).

technically my signature is a tip for the poms, and I added that one before the 2nd test - at least.

So Miro is down to 3rd spot

Fishman Dan
12th August 2005, 08:14 PM
But your comment is a quote from the paper.

That's 4th Miro.

Jarro
12th August 2005, 08:25 PM
this is becoming a joke :shock:

Gillespie is still in the attack and he's going for over 6 an over :roll:

17 overs, 2 maidens .. 0/105 :evil:

Grunt
13th August 2005, 04:49 AM
We R GOOOOOOONE!!

Grunt
13th August 2005, 05:12 AM
How long since an aussie test team has been forced to follow on?

It may just happen in this series!

I think our No.1 Test nation status may be in some bother, we may not lose it but the pack is circling ever closer.

3oneday
13th August 2005, 06:04 AM
Should we start a poll, which Aussie Captain will be the first to lose the Ashes in 20 years ???

No respect for the English team, it's Test Cricket not bloody 20/20 :P :x

Pete

Jarro
13th August 2005, 08:14 AM
you might be right Pete, looks like the mighty Aussie ego might be hard at work in this test... they simply aren't paying the Pommie bowlers enough respect :roll:

what the hell was katich doing leaving that delivery alone :shock: and what the hell was wonder-boy thinking going for a slog like that :?

we need to take a good hard look at ourselves before the next test.

drop Dizzy as well.

Fishman Dan
13th August 2005, 08:53 AM
you might be right Pete, looks like the mighty Aussie ego might be hard at work in this test... they simply aren't paying the Pommie bowlers enough respect :roll:

what the hell was katich doing leaving that delivery alone  :shock:  and what the hell was wonder-boy thinking going for a slog like that  :?

we need to take a good hard look at ourselves before the next test.

drop Dizzy as well.

To be fair Katich was set up by awesome bowling. 3 or 4 swinging away, then that jaffa. Cracker of a ball, Flintoff was the winner for sure.

The other thing is he left a ball on a good length - all game these have been getting up waist high or more, the wicket ball skidded through beautifully.

Freddy for PM.

Ona
13th August 2005, 12:28 PM
can Tait swing it?

anyone else embarrassed that there is an Us v's the Rest match coming up?

terryand
13th August 2005, 05:10 PM
Looks like rain,come on Huey.

Hopefully the weather can pay us back for some win it has taken off us in the past and with a good scare like this they might come out and play some cricket in the next test :?

Terry.

Jarro
13th August 2005, 05:21 PM
they sure do look like they need a rocket up their arse to get them back on track :roll:

it'd be good to see Tait get a run in the next couple of tests, but i doubt it will happen. How does the saying go .... it's harder to get out of the aussie team than it is to get in :wink:

3oneday
14th August 2005, 02:50 AM
Well, Mr Rain has helped to see 15 or so overs bowled today, with Mr Warne not out 78 and helping us surpass the follow-on.

Still only 7 out too  :shock: , with Mr Gillespie securing his spot in the 4th test with a solid 7 off 54 balls !!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

2 days to go, a draw is a chance. I won't talk about Warne, so as not to put on the kiss of death we seem to be into here lately........

Pete

Jarro
14th August 2005, 05:58 AM
if we can't salvage a draw from here then i reckon the guys should come home right now :roll:

Fishman Dan
14th August 2005, 08:01 PM
This is getting good.

Poms have come up running quick singles, so they are keen to get 300-330 in front by the end of the day.

And Lee has cracked Strauss in the face-grill this time....

Jarro
14th August 2005, 09:21 PM
wonder how much longer before ponting throws the ball Warneys way ??

he's been the only one that looks like taking a wicket this test :roll:

cazandpaul
15th August 2005, 04:14 AM
Can we bat for a day to save the test - it will take far better shot selection than has been shown in the series to date.

IMO the Aussie batsmen appear to have entered this series with preconceived ideas about how to play each bowler and have stuck to these ideas without taking into account the conditions in which they find themselves.

While I don't really rate Giles as a spinner he has bowled pretty well in this test but the Aussies continued to charge him or pretend he can't spin the ball.

Is this the work of the mind bender Buchannan?

Grunt
15th August 2005, 06:38 AM
Going to have to be a big effort 400 in a day with 10 wickets in hand

Fishman Dan
15th August 2005, 07:08 AM
I think there are 98 overs to bowl in the day? A big ask... Hayden and Langer have to survive the first session if we are any chance.

McMw
15th August 2005, 08:14 AM
the way the aussies have been batting - should be all over by teatime...

Jarro
15th August 2005, 03:09 PM
it'll be interesting to see their mindest when they go out to bat tonight.

400 odd runs off 98 overs is possible if they play positive attacking cricket.

on the other hand, if they are down on confidence, they'll try and block and leave as many balls as possible and try and salvage a draw.

should make for an interesting nights viewing 8)

3oneday
15th August 2005, 03:47 PM
it'll be interesting to see their mindest when they go out to bat tonight.

400 odd runs off 98 overs is possible if they play positive attacking cricket.

on the other hand, if they are down on confidence, they'll try and block and leave as many balls as possible and try and salvage a draw.

should make for an interesting nights viewing  8)I'll reckon it'll be clear by tea (or over by tea !!!) :lol: :lol: possibly an idea by lunch, if they start anything like they have been.

However, they have predicted fine weather, so if they are anything like our weather predictions :P , there is a huge chance it will rain.

Pete

markTHEblake
15th August 2005, 04:52 PM
400 odd runs off 98 overs is possible if they play positive attacking cricket.

Jarro, your dreamin.  300+ runs (to win) on the 5th day of a test match has been done something like only twice in over 100 years of cricket.

Jarro
15th August 2005, 04:57 PM
Blakey, the Poms scored over 400 on the first day of the 2nd test.

Nothing is impossible.

markTHEblake
15th August 2005, 05:30 PM
Blakey, the Poms scored over 400 on the first day of the 2nd test.

Nothing is impossible.

Jarro you are being silly, there's no comparison - there is huge difference between a first day pitch and a 5th day one.

go count how many teams have scored 300 on a last day pitch - if its not two then i am not far wrong.

Fishman Dan
15th August 2005, 05:32 PM
The runs can be made. The English bowlers took us at will yesterday to make a solid 280-odd. But our batting doesn't have that confidence at the moment - AND we're short Michael Clarke.

We don't need to win this test, but the Poms DO! Our boys need to go out there and have a 98 over net-session and practice not losing their wicket.

Grunt
15th August 2005, 05:42 PM
Will be interesting to see how they go about it. Whether they go for it or try for the draw. I think if they go for the draw the poms will have it by teatime as they will have all the attack but if we attack tehm they may go into their shells and provide the miracle that we need to happen.

terryand
15th August 2005, 05:45 PM
I think the Aussies will stick to the ways of "live by the sword and die by the sword" :roll:

Terry.

Fishman Dan
15th August 2005, 06:37 PM
All over. Goneski. Just a matter of how long.

Grunt
15th August 2005, 06:48 PM
Langer GONE.

is this series going to end another test career?

Others have; Slater, who else ended their test career on an ashes tour?

Jarro
15th August 2005, 07:00 PM
Blakey, the Poms scored over 400 on the first day of the 2nd test.

Nothing is impossible.

Jarro you are being silly, there's no comparison - there is huge difference between a first day pitch and a 5th day one.

go count how many teams have scored 300 on a last day pitch - if its not two then i am not far wrong.

Blakey, i seem to recall the Aussies came within 3 runs of winning the last test when no-body thought it was at all possible. Records look good on paper ... and that's about it :P

I agree with FD, the Aussies could adopt the policy of crash'n'bash IF they wanted to, and they might get away with the win. We are in the position though that a draw is all we want out of this game, so they'll probably take the cautious line and try and level the series at 1 all.

Fishman Dan
15th August 2005, 07:06 PM
Grant - i think Slater's ended in India?

Langer's not going anywhere, and neither is Hayden. And to be honest, the latter is more urgent need of runs.

Not a confident start for Ponting either..

Jarro
15th August 2005, 07:09 PM
Gillespie has to go though ... he's done nothing with the ball, and is a huge risk to us retaining the Ashes.

take a look at the Pommie batsmans eyes light up when Dizzy is thrown the ball :shock:

Grunt
15th August 2005, 07:10 PM
Didn't Slater get dropped for the last test in England?

All the talk is about no replacement Bowlers but do we have replacement batsmen?

Fishman Dan
15th August 2005, 07:11 PM
I figured he was a dead man walking when he had that on field dummy spit on the sub-continent somewhere. The writing was on the wall anyway.

Grunt
15th August 2005, 07:12 PM
Yeah now I remember.

Grunt
15th August 2005, 07:40 PM
Could today be the day Hayden bats himself back into form.

markTHEblake
15th August 2005, 07:48 PM
Blakey, i seem to recall the Aussies came within 3 runs of winning the last test when no-body thought it was at all possible. Records look good on paper ... and that's about it  :P  


your comparing apples to oranges..... :roll:  Australia had 2.5 days to score about 300 runs, of course it was possible, they should have done it in a canter.

History is proof enough that 300 runs on the last day to win is harder than shooting a 59 in golf.

Grunt
15th August 2005, 08:02 PM
Could today be the day Hayden bats himself back into form.

Talk about kiss of death, I'm going to bed b4 I get them all out

McMw
15th August 2005, 09:35 PM
they'll be burning effigies of bucknor and billy tomorrow I reckon....or they should!!!

Jarro
16th August 2005, 03:27 AM
pretty close to knocking off the 423 required, great 156 to Ponting .. and boy didn't he (we) need that one :roll:

it got down to Lee and McGrath having to survive the last 4 overs, which they did, to salvage the draw ..... pretty gutsy fightback.

9 - 371 ... almost got the runs there Blakey :wink:

3oneday
16th August 2005, 06:30 AM
they'll be burning effigies of bucknor and billy tomorrow I reckon....or they should!!!Billy has great trouble sticking that crooked finger up for LBW, although it seemed the most this test were good decisions. Probably a good thing, he seems a bit miffed by excessive appealing or something. I thought it was interesting that when Warne was bowling, most of his overs seemed to be at the opposite end to Billy after the first day.

Can't see how Bucknor thought Martyn was out, maybe the pressure was getting to the umps as well.

Pete

Grunt
16th August 2005, 08:14 AM
just saw the replay this morning. How big an edge does Bucknor need before he thinks it hit the bat? :x

markTHEblake
16th August 2005, 01:27 PM
9 - 371 ... almost got the runs there Blakey  :wink:

rubbish jarro. You and everyone else knows that the only reason they scored that many runs was because Vaughn set an attacking field.
They wouldnt have got within cooee of that if the poms defended

Bruce
16th August 2005, 01:50 PM
Spot on Blakey. The win was only ever available to the Poms. If the unthinkable had happened and the Aussies had started to get close, Vaughn would have shut it down in a heartbeat.

3oneday
16th August 2005, 02:16 PM
because Vaughn set an attacking field.
They wouldnt have got within cooee of that if the poms defendedso what was the 3 balls through slips off Hayden in the space of 2 overs, M Waugh, I Botham and friends were seriously questioning Vaughans desire to win the game.

Seriously, why wouldn't they have had 4 slips and 2 gullies, they couldn't handle Flintoff in the slightest. There is no real way Aust could have scored those runs, smother the damn batsmen into making mistakes, sure as hell Steve Waugh would have.

As much as Ponting cost Australia the 2nd Test, I reckon Vaughans' negativity cost the Poms in this one.

Pete

Jarro
16th August 2005, 02:27 PM
9 - 371 ... almost got the runs there Blakey  :wink:

rubbish jarro.     You and everyone else knows that the only reason they scored that many runs was because Vaughn set an attacking field.
They wouldnt have got within cooee of that if the poms defended

Blakey, if you had of watched the coverage, you would have noticed that Vaughan had fielders at 1st, 3rd and 5th slip most of the time .. as well as a sprinkling around the boundary ..... he wasn't quite sure what the Aussies were going to do, so he covered all his bases.

He attacked with his field when Flintoff bowled, but Giles had fiedlsman on all parts of the paddock ..... hardly attacking then.

I think his arse must have tightened considerably when Ponting and Warne were tonking away with around 100 runs left to get :shock:

markTHEblake
16th August 2005, 03:38 PM
I did watch it... there was a sqaure leg for the suckers that hook, didnt one of them get out that way.

if vaughn was trying to protect the runs the bowlers would have been taking a line 3 feet outside off stump, and set a 7-2 field or something like that, and they would be lucky to score 2 runs an over.

like the commentators said, if he wanted to shut up shop he would have done so easily, its not one day cricket.

for a cricket fan you dont seem to know much about it :roll:

McMw
16th August 2005, 03:47 PM
why set a defensive field when they had aussies on the death rope anyway...

Fishman Dan
16th August 2005, 05:31 PM
Can't see how Bucknor thought Martyn was out, maybe the pressure was getting to the umps as well.

Be interesting to see what comes out of the alleged 'booking' following Martyn's dismissal. Either;

* Ponting said something stupid to Bucknor that went into the book. He's allowed to speak as captain, but you can't call him a ****wit.

* Martyn went into the book for hanging around too long and cops a dissent call.

* He adjusted his odds as he was running a book over the entire test.

Bucky did OK, but it was a clanger in a test that he did everything else right. I'd be upset to see Billy get another start though, 2 tests and he's been pretty ordinary.

3oneday
16th August 2005, 06:55 PM
Can't see how Bucknor thought Martyn was out, maybe the pressure was getting to the umps as well.

Be interesting to see what comes out of the alleged 'booking' following Martyn's dismissal. Either;

* Ponting said something stupid to Bucknor that went into the book. He's allowed to speak as captain, but you can't call him a @#$%.

* Martyn went into the book for hanging around too long and cops a dissent call.

* He adjusted his odds as he was running a book over the entire test.

Bucky did OK, but it was a clanger in a test that he did everything else right. I'd be upset to see Billy get another start though, 2 tests and he's been pretty ordinary.Damn Fish, well said mate.

It'll be a fine anyway, no suspension I reckon, yes it was wrong but they are a protected bunch.

Pete

markTHEblake
16th August 2005, 08:26 PM
martin didnt really hang around, he just wasnt looking at the umpire waiting for a decision, it was like only a second that he looked back at buckky like a stunned mullet

Fishman Dan
16th August 2005, 10:49 PM
martin didnt really hang around,  he just wasnt looking at the umpire waiting for a decision, it was like only a second that he looked back at buckky like a stunned mullet

Blake - you don't have to show dissent, but when the finger goes up, you have to go. Hanging around isn't tolerated at all these days, no matter how wrong the blind guy at the other end is.

Jarro
17th August 2005, 02:31 AM
martin didnt really hang around,  he just wasnt looking at the umpire waiting for a decision, it was like only a second that he looked back at buckky like a stunned mullet

Blake - you don't have to show dissent, but when the finger goes up, you have to go. Hanging around isn't tolerated at all these days, no matter how wrong the blind guy at the other end is.

Jesus Blakey ...........


for a cricket fan you dont seem to know much about it

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

markTHEblake
17th August 2005, 03:45 PM
like i said Jarro, i didnt think he 'hung around' or showed dissent.

define hanging around, is there a time limit?

Fishman Dan
17th August 2005, 05:17 PM
like i said Jarro, i didnt think he 'hung around' or showed dissent.

define hanging around, is there a time limit?

Yep. You see the finger, you go. Any lingering at the crease is dissent...

Grunt
17th August 2005, 06:13 PM
Funny thing happened today whilst playing Cricket 2004 on Playstation 2 this morning.

I was play aust v eng in a test. Martyn got out LBW and he stood there for ages before walking off. The commentator in the game said he could see why he was not happy. I nearly pissed myself after reading about his dismissal in the test. He was out this time :wink:

Jarro
24th August 2005, 07:14 AM
well no sooner than they name Tait as Dizzy's replacement, word from the Aussie camp is that McGrath is in hospital again.. this time with a sore elbow :roll: man they're dropping like flies :P

Eag's
24th August 2005, 03:47 PM
Great to see they are giving Tait a go, bout bloody time I say :smt045

markTHEblake
24th August 2005, 07:18 PM
So who will place Mcgrath - Gillespie?

Jarro
24th August 2005, 07:21 PM
So who will place Mcgrath - Gillespie?

probably Kaspa

McMw
24th August 2005, 09:43 PM
even if McGrath is fit to play, I like the idea of throwing the new ball to Tait for the 2nd over......

the hype is all over the tabloids...surely the english openers can't be too looking forward to facing him so early...

Jarro
25th August 2005, 05:07 AM
true Mau, i also think the Pommie batsman will be a little worries about this unknown bowler.

thing is though, he's reported to be a great reverse swing bowler, so he'll probably be more effective when the ball gets a little older.

IF McGrath is fit, Tait will surely be the first change bowler.

Jarro
25th August 2005, 05:51 PM
well it's official, McGrath is OUT of the 4th test :(

Now it will be a real test of the character of this Aussie side, to lose their #1 quick bowler 1 hour before play is due to commence on the first day.

Kaspa will slot in as the 3rd quick, but who takes the new ball with Brett Lee is anyones guess :?

Courty
25th August 2005, 06:05 PM
well it's official, McGrath is OUT of the 4th test  :(

Now it will be a real test of the character of this Aussie side, to lose their #1 quick bowler 1 hour before play is due to commence on the first day.

Kaspa will slot in as the 3rd quick, but who takes the new ball with Brett Lee is anyones guess  :?

I'm tipping Gilchrist to make his debut as a left-arm Chinaman. :-s

Fishman Dan
25th August 2005, 06:05 PM
Dizzy is our best option... the timing of his axing is terrible.

I think Tait will get a few. It's up to our batting though - need to post a solid 1st innings total like they used to do.

Jarro
25th August 2005, 06:09 PM
Dizzy is our best option... the timing of his axing is terrible.

are you serious :smt104

you have seen his figures from the first 3 tests :?:

Jarro
25th August 2005, 06:10 PM
Poms have won the toss and are going to bat first.

Courty
25th August 2005, 06:11 PM
Poms have won the toss and are going to bat first.

With all the excitement this test series has generated, I bet the commercial stations are spewing they didn't get the rights.  :roll:

Jarro
25th August 2005, 06:17 PM
It's up to our batting though - need to post a solid 1st innings total like they used to do.

i agree.

you can chastise our bowlers all you like, but they've had bugger all runs to defend throughout this whole series :evil:

Fishman Dan
25th August 2005, 06:22 PM
Great call from Greg Matthews....

MacGill should have got a start.

Ona
25th August 2005, 06:40 PM
FAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKKKKKK!!!!!

I just lost SBS :cry:

Ona
25th August 2005, 07:21 PM
dont worry everyone, it's back now :roll:

Grunt
25th August 2005, 07:28 PM
Boy let's hope the weather saves us.

Grunt
25th August 2005, 07:34 PM
Poor Shaun Tait, makes his test debut of one of the best batting pitches you have ever seen.

Jarro
25th August 2005, 07:35 PM
talk about the most lifeless wicket you've ever seen :roll:

I sure hope Warney can conjure some magic out there.

Fishman Dan
25th August 2005, 07:38 PM
Pitch is fine. Bowling is crap.

10 no balls. Go Kaspa... I'd hate it if we lost this test by 8 runs with Kaspa at the crease :?