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AndyP
1st November 2010, 02:29 PM
Draw update
http://www.ozgolf.net/andyp/OZgolf%20Matchplay%202011.jpg

just
1st November 2010, 02:30 PM
#2 post reserved for future comment on draw.

sms316
1st November 2010, 02:31 PM
#3 post reserved for entry fee payment details.

solarman
1st November 2010, 02:35 PM
#4 post hmm I'll think of something.

PeteyD
1st November 2010, 02:38 PM
#5 post reserved for bitching and picking on Jarro in the first round.

And for looking stupid.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 02:39 PM
Registration has closed and it is time to sort out the draw. We had 35 entries in the end, and clearly this doesn't go into an even draw. So I had some criteria for making it to the full draw.

The first was to have played in last year's matchplay. Conveniently, this breaks it up perfectly.

Congratulations to the following 29 players, who have made it through to the next round:


Andyp
PeteyD
Daves
SMS
Jaybam
GC
Lucasto23
Rusty
Peter_rs
Shazza_rs
Chop
DC68
henno
ddasey
mblakey
Eag's
damoocow
BrisWesty
Iain
G69
nudgee
Xray
Hux
Shavey
Goonie
jarro
Kpac
Moe Norman
Just

The following six, who did not play OZgolf matchplay for 2010, will need to play a qualifier to reach the main draw of 2011.


Timah
Ferrins
Steve57
Poidda
steverawlo
Oxy

I will release a draw for these three qualification matches very soon, but they will be expected to be finished by Christmas. The Brooky BBQ Bash may be the perfect time to play it.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 02:40 PM
Well, those posts are going to look stupid when I change the header post.

kpac
1st November 2010, 02:47 PM
If ozgolf wants the matchplay to grow, year on year, i'm not sure the precedence of "playing in the matchplay the previous year" is the correct approach.
Not sure what is sorry, but this just seems a little bit "limiting". I'm unconvinced that playing in last year competition entitles people to anything more than those who took a year off, or just want to have a crack this year.

Effectively i think the matchplay should start this round rather that at the 32 players. And i'd prefer 'random' qualifiers. My opinion only (any you're admin, so delete this post if you like ;) )

sms316
1st November 2010, 02:48 PM
Can we call the first matches the "qualifying round", followed by the "first round"? We don't want jarro making it into the 2nd round two years in a row.

PeteyD
1st November 2010, 02:51 PM
Pretty sure the criteria were outlined in the nomination thread.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 03:24 PM
Pretty sure the criteria were outlined in the nomination thread.I think I mentioned it, but I didn't really outline it.

The reason I chose that criteria is that those players from last year, have recently proven that they will get a match played, and not put there name down in the matchplay only to pull out later on. I hate seeing forfeits.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 03:25 PM
Can we call the first matches the "qualifying round", followed by the "first round"? We don't want jarro making it into the 2nd round two years in a row.
I've already used the term "qualifiers" and "main draw" to avoid that nasty situation. ;)

PeteyD
1st November 2010, 03:25 PM
Just do the draw already. You put in the extras as Q1, Q2 and Q3.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 03:27 PM
That's what I am going to do, Petey. I'm not going to wait for the other matches to be played. Several matches should be able to be played without waiting for the qualifiers.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 03:44 PM
No need for randomness for the first three matches, I'll just go off geographic location to hopefully assist in their completion.

Ferrins v steverawlo
poidda v Oxy
Timah v Steve57

markTHEblake
1st November 2010, 05:17 PM
The reason I chose that criteria is that those players from last year, have recently proven that they will get a match played, and not put there name down in the matchplay only to pull out later on. I hate seeing forfeits.

sounds good to me. I suppose you also made sure that of the 29 who pre-qualified than none forfeited last year in the first round? :-)

AndyP
1st November 2010, 05:52 PM
I think BV was the only one to forfeit last year that is on this year's list, but that was after two ties with Iain.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 05:53 PM
there name
Oh, the shame!

AndyP
1st November 2010, 08:26 PM
The draw is coming together. I am currently transforming it into something more readable, but I thought this was worth putting up to get the discussion going, as you can see who your first round opponent is.

I decided to keep the main draw completely random in the end. The positive is that noone plays someone they played last year in the first round. I haven't had a close look at the draw yet, but there is a potential final replay as early as the second round.

Here's what a random draw generator website (http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-cup-fixture-generator.htm) spat out:



Round 1

Match 1 - goonie vs jarro
Match 2 - Daves vs Winner Q3
Match 3 - PeteyD vs ddasey
Match 4 - just vs Xray
Match 5 - Shazza_rs vs Moe Norman
Match 6 - Peter_rs vs dc68
Match 7 - Rusty vs SMS
Match 8 - Lucasto23 vs Hux
Match 9 - Winner Q2 vs kpac
Match 10 - Choppa vs Iain
Match 11 - Winner Q1 vs golfer69
Match 12 - Jaybam vs shavey
Match 13 - damoocow vs AndyP
Match 14 - nudgee vs GC
Match 15 - markTHEblake vs BrisWesty
Match 16 - Eag's vs hennoNote:
Q1 Ferrins v steverawlo
Q2 poidda v Oxy
Q3 Timah v Steve57


Round 2

Match 17 - Winner of Match 8 vs Winner of Match 13
Match 18 - Winner of Match 2 vs Winner of Match 4
Match 19 - Winner of Match 15 vs Winner of Match 16
Match 20 - Winner of Match 10 vs Winner of Match 14
Match 21 - Winner of Match 1 vs Winner of Match 9
Match 22 - Winner of Match 7 vs Winner of Match 5
Match 23 - Winner of Match 11 vs Winner of Match 12
Match 24 - Winner of Match 3 vs Winner of Match 6

Round 3

Match 25 - Winner of Match 23 vs Winner of Match 20
Match 26 - Winner of Match 19 vs Winner of Match 18
Match 27 - Winner of Match 17 vs Winner of Match 21
Match 28 - Winner of Match 22 vs Winner of Match 24

Round 4

Match 29 - Winner of Match 25 vs Winner of Match 27
Match 30 - Winner of Match 26 vs Winner of Match 28

Final

Match 31 - Winner of Match 29 vs Winner of Match 30

timah!
1st November 2010, 08:32 PM
Sweet as. Providing it doesn't pour down Wednesday, I should get my last handicap card in. Having said that, the way i've chopped it around in recent weeks, it'll be on par with Solarman!

Choppa
1st November 2010, 08:35 PM
Bloody hell I will be out in the first round again.

ddasey
1st November 2010, 08:36 PM
Nice work AP.

Some interesting 1st round matches.

Oxy
1st November 2010, 08:46 PM
First matchplay champs for me any tips OZ golfers?

just
1st November 2010, 08:51 PM
Yeah don't lose 8 & 7.

Oxy
1st November 2010, 08:55 PM
That's a quick way to the 19th.

jaybam
1st November 2010, 08:56 PM
Bloody shavey again. Looks like a first round exit for me this year lol.

jaybam
1st November 2010, 08:58 PM
But it looks great so far andyp. Thanks forthe work your putting in. At least you don't have to get up for work in the morning huh.

AndyP
1st November 2010, 09:05 PM
Or the next morning. Or the morning after that.

Ferrins
1st November 2010, 09:26 PM
Will there be lucky losers from the qualifing if one of the chosen ones from the main draw pulls out?

Lucasto23
1st November 2010, 09:27 PM
Bring it on Huxtable :)

Jarro
1st November 2010, 09:28 PM
What happens in the event of a drawn match ?

Ferrins
1st November 2010, 10:11 PM
steverawlo has more game than the average OZgolf chump, could be interesting. If I win this ,then golfer69 will draw a right wanker first round.

markTHEblake
1st November 2010, 10:23 PM
What happens in the event of a drawn match ?

disqualify both for being losers - finish it!

AndyP
1st November 2010, 11:11 PM
9296

sms316
2nd November 2010, 06:55 AM
Sweet. I get to put shazza out of her misery again!

ddasey
2nd November 2010, 07:10 AM
Sweet. I get to put shazza out of her misery again!

Bit of an assumption me thinks.

You may get knocked out 1st round.

just
2nd November 2010, 07:58 AM
Worst matchplay draw ever.

sms316
2nd November 2010, 08:09 AM
Bit of an assumption me thinks.

You may get knocked out 1st round.

I might.

Shazza won't though! :mrgreen:

Eag's
2nd November 2010, 09:01 AM
Never played the hennocopter in matchplay, looking forward to it 8-)

timah!
2nd November 2010, 09:31 AM
I think we've missed the qualifying date....

Jarro
2nd November 2010, 09:43 AM
Wow there is some serious quality in that bottom left side of the draw.

I know

solarman
2nd November 2010, 10:52 AM
Sweet as. Providing it doesn't pour down Wednesday, I should get my last handicap card in. Having said that, the way i've chopped it around in recent weeks, it'll be on par with Solarman!

FFS.....not you too.

sms316
2nd November 2010, 11:10 AM
I think we've missed the qualifying date....

:lol:

timah!
2nd November 2010, 11:12 AM
Haha...sorry Solarman!

But seriously, i've chopped it round something terrible the last few rounds...

henno
2nd November 2010, 11:15 AM
Never played the hennocopter in matchplay, looking forward to it 8-)

I'm also looking forward to it, although not so much if I only have to give you 3 shots! :razz:

Steve57
2nd November 2010, 11:34 AM
Haha...sorry Solarman!

But seriously, i've chopped it round something terrible the last few rounds...

Sounds like your trying to doctor that new handicap to me!!!!

Moe Norman
2nd November 2010, 01:05 PM
shaz, what are you playing off these days?

I could cop a hiding here!

timah!
2nd November 2010, 01:43 PM
Sounds like your trying to doctor that new handicap to me!!!!

Haha, unfortunately Steve, it'd be pretty relective atm...

But, Matchplay is a very different game...

markTHEblake
2nd November 2010, 05:21 PM
i see that Andyp did his best to get the first rounds played between guys who are local to each other. Briswesty, where would you like to play, Murwillumbah maybe?

AndyP
2nd November 2010, 05:50 PM
i see that Andyp did his best to get the first rounds played between guys who are local to each other. I didn't want to have to play Oxy or BV.

Moe Norman
2nd November 2010, 06:51 PM
i see that Andyp did his best to get the first rounds played between guys who are local to each other. Briswesty, where would you like to play, Murwillumbah maybe?

I live near AndyP, live nowhere near Shazza!

jaybam
2nd November 2010, 06:52 PM
I also live near Andyp but no where near Shavey. Think he is down the coast near Blakey??????

BrisWesty
2nd November 2010, 06:58 PM
i see that Andyp did his best to get the first rounds played between guys who are local to each other. Briswesty, where would you like to play, Murwillumbah maybe?

Royal Tallai? ;-)
Wynnum Cup - 30/1/11?

markTHEblake
2nd November 2010, 07:06 PM
BW -how about we pencil it in for Brookwater for now, and worry about other contingencies if you end up not playing?

BrisWesty
2nd November 2010, 08:19 PM
I think I'll be elsewhere that weekend (unfortunately).

markTHEblake
2nd November 2010, 09:12 PM
something will come up. I get the obligatory 2 weeks off at christmas, it cant be that hard to work something in there.

BrisWesty
2nd November 2010, 09:30 PM
Wow there is some serious quality in that top left side of the draw.

The lower left doesn't particularly let the side down either!

Eag's
3rd November 2010, 07:54 AM
I'm also looking forward to it, although not so much if I only have to give you 3 shots! :razz:

:lol:

shazza_rs
3rd November 2010, 11:54 AM
shaz, what are you playing off these days?

I could cop a hiding here!

11.... but i haven't played for about 5 months excluding the champs weekend :)

poidda
3rd November 2010, 12:11 PM
Q2 poidda v Oxy


Ouch. How about we play this at Brookwater and get it over with?!?!

BrisVegas
3rd November 2010, 01:51 PM
tough break poidda.

Rusty
3rd November 2010, 04:34 PM
Sweet. I get to put shazza out of her misery again!

you wish, paunchy, you wish.

Hux
3rd November 2010, 08:37 PM
11.... but i haven't played for about 5 months excluding the champs weekend :)

Was that golf we were doing at the champs? I thought it was some form of highland mud romping :-)

Hux
3rd November 2010, 08:39 PM
Bring it on Huxtable :)


Notice how all the quality is on the lefthand side of the draw Lucas :-)

Andy has rigged it for an easy win for whoever makes it through on the left......

Ferrins
3rd November 2010, 09:01 PM
Are qualifiers allowed to post in this thread?

Oxy
4th November 2010, 06:24 AM
Ouch. How about we play this at Brookwater and get it over with?!?!

No ouch Poidda. You haven't seen me play at Brookwater. Sound like a plan see U then.

BrisVegas
4th November 2010, 07:27 AM
No ouch Poidda. You haven't seen me play at Brookwater. Sound like a plan see U then.

Oxy, shall I pencil you in for the next few weekends at brooky so you can figure out your strategy? Or are you gonna play 5 iron off the tee and destroy Poidda like SMS?

AndyP
4th November 2010, 07:31 AM
He doesn't use strategy around WP.

BrisVegas
4th November 2010, 07:33 AM
There's no need for it.

AndyP
4th November 2010, 07:44 AM
I guess there isn't when you can still score 3 pointers from the trees.

Oxy
4th November 2010, 08:27 PM
Oxy, shall I pencil you in for the next few weekends at brooky so you can figure out your strategy? Or are you gonna play 5 iron off the tee and destroy Poidda like SMS?

Yes please Brissie Vegas. Agree, 'grip an rip' at Wolly Park. Brooky requires 'thought' followed by .....bugger it..... Monthly medal this coming up weekend at Wolly with AndyP....should make it a practice Matchpaly with AndyP!!!!!!!!!!!

Oxy
4th November 2010, 08:30 PM
Thank god I don' t have to spell check, whilst doing Air Traffic Control.

AndyP
4th November 2010, 08:40 PM
Monthly medal this coming up weekend at Wolly with AndyP....should make it a practice Matchpaly with AndyP!!!!!!!!!!!Hey, you are not going to upset my plans to win the medal this weekend assuming I recover from injury (chafing)...

Oxy
4th November 2010, 08:49 PM
Hey, you are not going to upset my plans to win the medal this weekend assuming I recover from injury (chafing)...

Should be fun either way AP (semi retired and all) our third (Carl) is now off 8. Me (22) whatever.................

Lucasto23
5th November 2010, 03:40 PM
Notice how all the quality is on the lefthand side of the draw Lucas :-)

Andy has rigged it for an easy win for whoever makes it through on the left......

Mate your run to the final looks good ;)

Steve57
5th November 2010, 04:40 PM
Notice how all the quality is on the lefthand side of the draw Lucas :-)

Andy has rigged it for an easy win for whoever makes it through on the left......

He only thinks he has. He does not know about the quality of the 'qualfiers' on either side of the draw!

timah!
5th November 2010, 05:04 PM
He only thinks he has. He does not know about the quality of the 'qualfiers' on either side of the draw!

He does about me! HA!

damoocow
15th November 2010, 09:41 PM
Andy - do you want to do ours at Brookie and get it out of the way?
Happy to host at Keperra or trek to Wolston if you want to do it elsewhere.

AndyP
15th November 2010, 09:45 PM
I don't want to do it at either of our home courses, so we can do it at Brookwater, if you are happy with that. "Get it out of the way" makes it sound like we don't have another three months afterwards to play it, but then again I need time to cater for the inevitable tie.

Ferrins
16th November 2010, 08:51 PM
Am I the number 1 seed? Just how the draw looks

AndyP
16th November 2010, 08:52 PM
You can think that, if you want. You probably have the burglar handicap for it.

Ferrins
16th November 2010, 08:56 PM
I'm like you Andy, on 10 hcp with a bunch of crap rounds to now come off.

sms316
17th November 2010, 06:39 AM
When is AP going to grow some stones and DQ those qualifying matches that haven't been played and are now 11 months in arrears?

Ferrins
17th November 2010, 08:18 AM
Save those petty remarks for your grumpy old mates that you play with at Pelican.

goonie
17th November 2010, 01:47 PM
When is AP going to grow some stones and DQ those qualifying matches that haven't been played and are now 11 months in arrears?

Yeah that's a bit rough AP, you could have at lease made the qualifying upto the 31st of December 2009 ;-)

AndyP
17th November 2010, 02:35 PM
**** 'em. Qualifying scum.

just
17th November 2010, 02:40 PM
That's the Ozgolf spirit P!

Ferrins
17th November 2010, 02:45 PM
Will there be lucky losers if people withdraw from the maindraw?

AndyP
17th November 2010, 02:55 PM
Will there be lucky losers if people withdraw from the maindraw?Ideally there won't be withdrawals, but it will be assessed if it happens. It has usually been the person who lost to the withdrawer that has gone through. It is dependent on the time left before the deadline.

BrisVegas
17th November 2010, 03:27 PM
It has usually been the person who lost to the withdrawer that has gone through.

That will never happen.

Steve57
21st November 2010, 06:29 PM
Result of Qualifier no 1

Steve57 def Timah! 4 & 2 at Carbrook this afternoon.

Lucasto23
22nd November 2010, 10:23 AM
Well played Steve considering the shots you had to give

Steve57
22nd November 2010, 03:07 PM
Thanks Lucas.

timah!
22nd November 2010, 03:18 PM
Well played Steve considering the shots you had to give

There was a reason he had to give shots! Ha!


And on the 7th day, jeebus created Tapatalk.

Steve57
22nd November 2010, 08:02 PM
When Tim gets more golf uinder his belt he will be a real threat!
Look out next year.

jaybam
22nd November 2010, 08:10 PM
YOu won Steve57. Don't need to be nice now. Be honest.

AndyP
22nd November 2010, 08:12 PM
He is too focussed on squashing Daves.


I Tapatalk, therefore I am.

Steve57
22nd November 2010, 08:45 PM
YOu won Steve57. Don't need to be nice now. Be honest.

I'm being honest. When Tim sorts out his driver his handicap will come down in leaps & bounds.

AndyP
22nd November 2010, 09:10 PM
It sounds like he is too dumb to put away his driver.


I Tapatalk, therefore I am.

Ferrins
23rd November 2010, 04:59 PM
steverawlo def Ferrins with a convincing 7 & 5 win. Well played mate and best of luck next round.

Lucasto23
23rd November 2010, 05:06 PM
Great win Steverawlo and unlucky Ferrins, what happened?

Ferrins
23rd November 2010, 05:27 PM
Struggled from the start and Steve was playing pretty solid. Couldn't unstruggle myself and it was all over in a flash.

Eag's
23rd November 2010, 05:56 PM
Nice win Steve, bad luck Ferrins.

sms316
23rd November 2010, 06:47 PM
Bad luck Ferret. On the bright side, you are only one career win behind jarro.

Steve57
23rd November 2010, 08:55 PM
Well done Steve. Bad luck Ferrins, obviously not your day.

AndyP
23rd November 2010, 08:56 PM
Well done on getting your qualifiers done, guys. You have proven worthy.

timah!
23rd November 2010, 09:01 PM
Bring on the champs hey Ferrins?


I supergoaled Tapatalk.

markTHEblake
23rd November 2010, 10:37 PM
Well done Ferrins, you were not that far away from being enshrined on Ozgolf folklore.

Hux
5th December 2010, 08:51 PM
First real match is sorted although I do believe there was a couple of forfeits due to folks not prepared to brave a few showers at Brooky ;-)

Hux Vs Lucas - Hux 2&1.

So when do we play Damo?

Daves
6th December 2010, 07:16 AM
First real match is sorted although I do believe there was a couple of forfeits due to folks not prepared to brave a few showers at Brooky ;-)

Hux Vs Lucas - Hux 2&1.

So when do we play Damo?

You did well to get your match completed yesterday. What happened to the other 3 matches that were supposed to happen?

BrisVegas
6th December 2010, 07:23 AM
poidda forfeited, to avoid a massacre :wink:

poidda
6th December 2010, 08:54 AM
poidda forfeited, to avoid a massacre :wink:

Yeah when I heard 36pts, I immediately said I wouldn't have competed with that. Bit to then find out 9 of them were in the last 2 holes?!?! :shock:

There's no way Oxy would have made it to the 17th tee.

But like AndyP having to forfeit we'll never know. ;)

Hux
6th December 2010, 06:47 PM
You did well to get your match completed yesterday. What happened to the other 3 matches that were supposed to happen?

Course was open and probably not any worse for water than the day I played AndyP in the final this year.

Just a lot longer in the wet than Nudgee South :-)

AndyP
27th January 2011, 03:19 PM
10484

timah!
27th January 2011, 03:26 PM
When did Poidda and Oxy play?

solarman
27th January 2011, 03:35 PM
Still think it really is not the "QLD MATCHPLAY CHAMPION". :-s
Can't look everyone seriously in the face and say you are the state champ. :roll:
I mean face it, it's just a token title as we all know where the real talent resides in Qld. :o

sms316
27th January 2011, 03:37 PM
I mean face it, it's just a token title as we all know where the real talent resides in Qld. :o

The talent required to suck a golf ball through 20 feet of garden hose is not what is required here Bob.

Iain
27th January 2011, 03:37 PM
I mean face it, it's just a token title as we all know where the real talent resides in Qld. :o
Not anywhere near you...

solarman
27th January 2011, 03:41 PM
10486

Says he who wouldn't drive his little trainsy wainsy thru a little bit of itsy bitsy water. What is QR coming too. Pussy's. :lol:

AndyP
27th January 2011, 04:42 PM
When did Poidda and Oxy play?
poidda pulled out pre-Brooky.

solarman, at least our champion is undefeated during the tournament, unlike the round robin losses incurred by yours.

solarman
28th January 2011, 08:47 AM
Which of these games are expected to be the close ones and which ones have players getting too many shots start?

Wouldn't it be interesting if people filled in the winners for the round and see who predicts the most winners?

mike
28th January 2011, 01:01 PM
Nobody really cares Bob.

Jarro
28th January 2011, 02:44 PM
Nope, zero interest :roll:

Moe Norman
28th January 2011, 03:46 PM
AndyP, you forgot to put Damo into the next round.

Who is updating this draw?

AndyP
28th January 2011, 04:01 PM
I didn't forget anything.

jaybam
30th January 2011, 03:33 PM
Jaybam goes through defeating shavey 4 and 3

markTHEblake
30th January 2011, 03:48 PM
Still think it really is not the "QLD MATCHPLAY CHAMPION".

you are correct, the proper title is Ozgolf Matchplay Champion, and whoever named it such deserves a kick in the pants.

AndyP
30th January 2011, 08:04 PM
Damo and I also played today at Wynnum.

F9 A A A A D D - D A
B9 A - A - - A
AndyP 5 and 3

It wasn't a great quality match, especially when I won the first hole with a double bogey. I got out to a lead of 4up through 4 with only one par, before Damo came storming back with a run of pars bringing it back to a one hole gap after 8 holes. He couldn't maintain it though, plus three over for my next seven holes did the job. In the end, Damo just had too many bad holes and bogeys or pars were usually enough for me to win a hole.

------------------------

just and Xray also had a match which finished All Square.

Moe Norman
30th January 2011, 08:19 PM
you're a kind man to allow him to play you after he forfeited damo

AndyP
30th January 2011, 08:49 PM
I offered and he declined. Who wouldn't when there is three months to play a match in OZgolf matchplay? Maybe you?

Moe Norman
30th January 2011, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't pull out of a match at the last minute, but if I did, it would be a forfeit.

As per Poidda ;)

AndyP
30th January 2011, 09:22 PM
Damo wasn't turning up to Brookwater solely for my benefit and Poidda only had until the end of December to play his. That's enough biting out of me.

Eag's
23rd February 2011, 04:23 PM
Played henno today at Carbrook, Eag's wins 5 & 3
The golf was a bit ordinary from both of us, but we had fun :)
F9 - E E E H H E E E
B9 E H - E -

goonie
23rd February 2011, 04:36 PM
Played henno today at Carbrook, Eag's wins 5 & 3
The golf was a bit ordinary from both of us, but we had fun :)
F9 - E E E H H E E E
B9 E H - E -

You should play all your matchplay games at carbrook.

AndyP
23rd February 2011, 05:23 PM
I beat Steverawlo 3/1....pretty comfortable really. I was even winning holes with shanks.You should play all your matchplay games at Carbrook. Oh wait.

What was the matchplay score at the turnaround, with you at +4 and Rawlo at +2?

AndyP
23rd February 2011, 05:35 PM
I was just going off the info I received. Well done.

AndyP
23rd February 2011, 06:03 PM
Updated
http://www.ozgolf.net/andyp/OZgolf%20Matchplay%202011.jpg

PeteyD
23rd February 2011, 06:58 PM
huh ?
We both shot 40 on the front and I'd just parred 9 to go 1 up. He won 10 and I made a par from nowhere on 11 to go one up...just cruised after that.

I musta misheard.

kpac
28th February 2011, 02:19 PM
I'm trying to track down Oxy for our Rnd 1 match... if anyone crosses his path, let him know to check his PM's

AndyP
28th February 2011, 02:31 PM
He has been doing a bit of traveling of late and will continue to do so. He did mention that he might have to forfeit, in which case, the sooner we know the better, as poidda might be able to take his place.

BrisVegas
28th February 2011, 08:10 PM
He has been doing a bit of traveling of late and will continue to do so. He did mention that he might have to forfeit, in which case, the sooner we know the better, as poidda might be able to take his place.

spot on, he's away for a couple of weeks.

kpac
28th February 2011, 08:51 PM
No worries, I hardly stay still myself, so i understand. Just trying to get the ball rolling.

BrisWesty
6th March 2011, 06:39 AM
BrisWesty (W) defeated MarkTheBlake (B) at Windaroo 1 up. Bigger details in the actual matchplay thread.
The golf was pretty good, but we both had a couple of lapses.

F9 - B B O W B W O W B
B9 - W O B O W B W W O

Next match Eags v BrisWesty.

Moe Norman
6th March 2011, 06:12 PM
Moe Norman defeats Shazza 4&2.

No need for a recap.

kpac
8th March 2011, 11:06 AM
I'm trying to track down Oxy for our Rnd 1 match... if anyone crosses his path, let him know to check his PM's

Anyone got a mobile contact - I'm away next week so we're going to struggle for time if i can't get in contact soon....

AndyP
8th March 2011, 12:30 PM
I've just sent him a text, kpac.

AndyP
8th March 2011, 09:57 PM
kpac, Oxy is out of the matchplay. If poidda is available, you could have a match against him, otherwise it looks like you are through to round 2.

kpac
9th March 2011, 08:38 AM
kpac..play him Sunday arvo.

Tried that on him, he wasn't sold.... I also made the offer of Monday AM.... no deal.....



AP: We're going to try get this done last weekend of March. Poid's booked up this weekend, and im interstate the following. Failling that, it'll come down to some sort of side bet to determine the victor.

Tomson
9th March 2011, 08:45 AM
Throw coins at a wall?

poidda
9th March 2011, 08:57 AM
Gee, nothing like being put back it 3 months after be controversially being denied a rematch after a no show on a wet Brookwater Sunday.

I'm back in. We'll organise a game asap.

Obviously you're available to play Sunday arvo Dickie! Shame.

Jarro
11th March 2011, 11:16 AM
This sorted yet ?

I need to work out a game plan for my next opponent ;)

kpac
11th March 2011, 11:37 AM
This sorted yet ?

I need to work out a game plan for my next opponent ;)

Sh|t didn't realise you were up next.... Looks like i'll be straight to the quarters!

Jarro
11th March 2011, 11:56 AM
Sh|t didn't realise you were up next.... Looks like i'll be straight to the quarters!

Bring it on Ginge !!!

kpac
11th March 2011, 12:21 PM
isn't there a little league comp you'd be better suited to??

Jarro
11th March 2011, 01:19 PM
Nice one Hercules, just make sure you win your match against poidda 'eh ?

kpac
11th March 2011, 01:29 PM
see you in the next round ay squirt.

(well at least for 10 holes...)

BrisVegas
11th March 2011, 01:30 PM
kpac & poidda will likely settle this one over a football punt or some such. Does poidda even own golf clubs any more ?

Jarro
11th March 2011, 04:37 PM
All or nothing now Dick

kpac
21st March 2011, 11:16 AM
All or nothing now Dick

Rito baldy - let's talk business.
Poid is out - it's me and you 2nd round mate. I'm back in QLD Wednesday. This weekend suits, otherwise i'm open to suggestions.

Moe Norman
21st March 2011, 11:57 AM
Rusty, when are you available?

I'd like to get going before footy season starts

Rusty
29th March 2011, 09:47 AM
Moe, pm sent.

Iain
29th March 2011, 09:54 AM
Choppa is out, due to limited availability.

PeteyD
29th March 2011, 10:12 AM
I'll play ya Iain. McCleod cup. Prepare to die! haha

kpac
29th March 2011, 10:21 AM
Go the PD!!

BrisVegas
29th March 2011, 10:35 AM
I'll play ya Iain. McCleod cup. Prepare to die! haha

Was it last year we played our match at McLeod? You're due a good round there. Be afraid Iain.

Iain
29th March 2011, 07:19 PM
I'll play ya Iain. McCleod cup. Prepare to die! haha

Pffft. Haven't you already lost....

PeteyD
30th March 2011, 12:21 PM
There is a precedent, and I was injured but played anyway

AndyP
30th March 2011, 01:01 PM
The draw has been updated.

Daves and Steve57 have rescheduled for next Wednesday, so that's fine, but I've got no idea on the status of the peter_rs/dc68 and just/Xray matches. Are we going to have a result within the next couple of weeks, guys?

Jarro
30th March 2011, 04:13 PM
The draw has been updated.



It has ? :smt017

AndyP
30th March 2011, 05:05 PM
Yes.

Jarro
30th March 2011, 05:05 PM
Nice job

peter_rs
1st April 2011, 09:57 AM
DC is out. The date is gone and there would be limited chance before easter.

Moe Norman
1st April 2011, 10:01 AM
pretty poor update, most of the results aren't listed...

AndyP
1st April 2011, 10:15 AM
pretty poor update, most of the results aren't listed...
Maybe you need to refresh the image.

http://www.ozgolf.net/andyp/OZgolf%20Matchplay%202011.jpg

jaybam
1st May 2011, 06:28 PM
Put me down for a 4 & 3 victory over Dickie thanks.

Ned
1st May 2011, 06:48 PM
Put me down for a 4 & 3 walkover victory over Dickie thanks.

Fixed it!:mrgreen:

AndyP
3rd May 2011, 06:20 PM
http://www.ozgolf.net/andyp/OZgolf%20Matchplay%202011.jpg

AndyP
27th May 2011, 08:50 PM
It looks like we could have another forfeit with peter_rs potentially getting two walkovers in a row. It's becoming a bit of a joke. Even I can't get my match done by the due date (so opted for Nudgee Plate).

Is it too late for a comp fee to be introduced? :roll:

ddasey
27th May 2011, 08:57 PM
Andy

Trust me, I don't really want to forfeit but this time I must put family 1st.

With my work situation not allowing many opportunities to play the 29th was agreed to by both.

It just so happens I have returned home to a sick family, and with no venue yet organised I need to commit to the other half.

Did I say I hate forfeiting, but........

AndyP
27th May 2011, 09:01 PM
Set a date in June then and get it done. Are you both playing Nudgee Plate? It sounds like both of you have time consuming work situations.
I'd rather not play matchplay in a major event, but I'd rather not forfeit either, and I think we can extend the date if we know that the match will definitely get played.

Otherwise, maybe PeteyD can get a game against peter_rs.

Hux
27th May 2011, 10:09 PM
Pete has previous for not showing any sympathy for excuses like sick kids.....maybe the fear of an RBT site set up covertly at Nudgee will be enough to bring out the compassion :-)

Considering AP doesn't work getting our game done has also been a damn tough gig. With him playing penants and me working 1 weekend in 4 it has been fairly tough but in the end this is a "friendly" Matchplay series a bit of leeway shouldn't be an issue for anyone...especially if one person struggles due to work to fit things together and then things head south due to other issues for eitehr party. Andy did throw it up as a forfeit if he couldn't make it - but that is no way for the last years champ to exit....I want to beat him this year and then get a banner made up.... :-)

ddasey
28th May 2011, 06:20 AM
Set a date in June then and get it done. Are you both playing Nudgee Plate? It sounds like both of you have time consuming work situations.
I'd rather not play matchplay in a major event, but I'd rather not forfeit either, and I think we can extend the date if we know that the match will definitely get played.

Otherwise, maybe PeteyD can get a game against peter_rs.

I'd be happy to set a date in June if again we can settle on a date, although we did agree on the 29th so I undertsand if this is not accepted.

I'm not playing Nudgee Plate because I couldn't commit work wise. As it turns out I have the day off........doh........mmmm reserve !!

Sorry to be a a pain in the backside, but I shall leave it to Pete to decide...

peter_rs
28th May 2011, 07:01 AM
Ap/hux I don't like the walk either there was a reply option for dc but it was to hard to set a time.

We started trying to get dates in April for a game as ddasey said we did make plans for Sunday

I was going to pm ap about and extension when I got the pm today. But when I looked ddasey wasn't in for the plate and I fly out to perth until the plate.

How long do you delay a round?

Moe Norman
28th May 2011, 07:18 AM
Rusty and I haven't played yet either. I had a broken arm, and we decided to try for late May.

I was available since my arm got better on any weekday, but haven't been able to do weekends and Rusty hasn't been able to do weekdays.

I didn't know the cut-off was approaching, but we'll be playing in the next couple of weeks.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 09:53 AM
How long do you delay a round?It depends. How flexible is the next round opponent? How inflexible is your schedule going to continue to be? Hypothetically, if you made the final would you have time to play all rounds before the Champs? Going beyond the end of June could potentially put too much strain on future matches.

Iain
28th May 2011, 10:17 AM
Why should ddasey forfeit? It doesn't sound like Peter_RS has much time for the matchplay?

peter_rs
28th May 2011, 10:19 AM
My work hasn't been inflexible. I've been trying to organize the game with ddasey since the start of April. With notice I'm happy to play a weekday if available. At this stage I know I'm busy til Nudgee plate. Given the next round is against moe or rusty an extension may be possible. But a you pointed out the longer it goes the harder it is on the next round.

Ddasey actually told me earlier in the week that he was returning to a sick family but he was still good for the day.

If you want to reschedule or delay a match ask for that don't say you are giving a forfeit. And ps. It would of been nice for me to be able to work the details out without you posting prior to one of us formally posting but I know how you like to stir.

Iain
28th May 2011, 10:27 AM
Double

AndyP
28th May 2011, 10:28 AM
If you want to reschedule or delay a match ask for that don't say you are giving a forfeit. And ps. It would of been nice for me to be able to work the details out without you posting prior to one of us formally posting but I know how you like to stir.Is this addressed to ddasey?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 10:33 AM
The stirring part is directed to you AP. And the first part of that is to everyone as the same thing happened with dc.

Pete has only been away for 7 days of the whole time to organise the match. Ddasey has been away and inflexible actually but hey continue to blame Pete if it makes you feel better.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 10:58 AM
I'm not giving a forfeit, so Pete should read posts in full before accusing me of stirring.

And doesn't this (http://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.php/23535-ddasey-V-Peter_RS-29-5?p=641125&viewfull=1#post641125) count as a "formal post".

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 11:03 AM
Pete wasn't on line last night to get any pm's or see any posts.

If he had then he probably would of extended the match but he's a stubborn thing and if you keep prodding he gets more stubborn.

Jarro
28th May 2011, 11:04 AM
Worst matchplay year ever !!!

timah!
28th May 2011, 11:13 AM
I'm so glad we played qualifiers...

kpac
28th May 2011, 11:32 AM
Next year entry fee!!

And what's with the "i don't want to play it at XXX event/day/comp/course??"
Everyone seems pretty happy to say it's a 'social' matchplay, it's all a bit petty to hear of people playing in the same ozgolf day and not playing matchplay and subsequently running out of time... Just my opinion. But i do think a tenner/20 as an entry fee would assist in avoiding WO's

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 11:38 AM
How does an entry fee change availability?

Jarro
28th May 2011, 12:36 PM
I suppose it just makes you try that little bit harder to get your match played on time Shaz.

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 12:50 PM
Really? Because the deadlines have no effect whatsoever.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 12:56 PM
Pete wasn't on line last night to get any pm's or see any posts.
That puts me in the clear then.

timah!
28th May 2011, 01:00 PM
How does an entry fee change availability?

It doesn't, but it might mean that people seriously question their availability before saying yes. There have been 5 WO's so far....

Iain
28th May 2011, 01:07 PM
It doesn't, but it might mean that people seriously question their availability before saying yes. There have been 5 WO's so far....

At least Choppa and I drew a match before he withdrew.

timah!
28th May 2011, 01:08 PM
Don't try and skew my statistics!
:lol:

Iain
28th May 2011, 01:11 PM
:mrgreen:

kpac
28th May 2011, 01:22 PM
How does an entry fee change availability?

Would it not make those with limited availability consider whether they could actually afford the time to play??

At the moment it's become anyone put you name down, and then if you can't play just forfeit. I'm sure there are plenty of others that would like to see the competition exist. At the moment the two problems are:
- the number of walkovers meaning the people that put their name down for matchplay are not getting to play the competition
- the legitamacy of the competition seeing some people are winning 3 matches to get to the 3rd round and others are winning none, and are their opponent.

For the sake of the competition i thought it would help.... when we're looking close to 1 in 3 games being forfeited, i would have thought suggestions on competition improvement warranted?

AndyP
28th May 2011, 01:23 PM
At least Choppa and I drew a match before he withdrew.And just and Xray.

ddasey
28th May 2011, 01:52 PM
OK one & all.

I apologise for throwing a spanner in the works. I committed to the matchplay with every intention of getting my games done. Unfortunately it so happens that round 2 was during a hectic period at work and 2 of the kids got sick this week. Well s**t happens.

A lot of finger pointing going on, blaming this that and the other. Well as I mentioned it was my fault.

So to end things here, I am out. The powers that be can decide wether Pete_RS goes through or if PeteyD gets a run. Honestly I am over it.

Iain
28th May 2011, 01:54 PM
Stick Peteyd in and play it at the plate?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:03 PM
Pete isn't going to play a matchplay game during Nudgee plate so forget it. The powers that be who are deciding the outcome of this match are Pete and Dave and that decision was made when Dave forfeited. No one else gets a say so back off everyone.

Yossarian
28th May 2011, 02:03 PM
Go Yoss!

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:06 PM
Pete isn't going to play a matchplay game during Nudgee plate so forget it. The powers that be who are deciding the outcome of this match are Pete and Dave and that decision was made when Dave forfeited. No one else gets a say so back off everyone.
Gee, thanks Pete.... :roll:

kpac
28th May 2011, 02:08 PM
Pete isn't going to play a matchplay game during Nudgee plate so forget it.

Everyone's entitled to decline. But am i missing something? I can't figure out what's the matter with Nudgee plate?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:09 PM
It's a personal choice. He doesn't like to play a matchplay event during a big event. He wouldn't give a shit if it was in a run if the mill sunday comp.

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:11 PM
Gee, thanks Pete.... :roll:

What does this have to do with you? Is the outcome directly affecting you.

Besides nudgee plate is already past the deadline. If he was going to extend the match then he would still be trying to organize something with ddasey not peteyd

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:13 PM
What does this have to do with you? Is the outcome directly affecting you.

I could ask you the same thing?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:16 PM
Yes it directly affects me because I live with him! If people were slagging off your wife would that not affect you?

kpac
28th May 2011, 02:18 PM
What does this have to do with you? Is the outcome directly affecting you.

Besides nudgee plate is already past the deadline. If he was going to extend the match then he would still be trying to organize something with ddasey not peteyd

In fairness, if ddasey withdraws, (which he seems to have) the precedence would be for PeteyD to be PeteRS' competitor. In which case the match would be overdue yes, but still in need of completion.

I had to withdraw after defeating pete rs the other year. Even after i played DC for a draw, pete was put back in the competition in my place...

I'm not saying that it correct, but that seems to be precedent.

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:18 PM
Besides nudgee plate is already past the deadline. If he was going to extend the match then he would still be trying to organize something with ddasey not peteyd

The whole point of the Ozgolf matchplay is to allow people to play matchplay that normally wouldn't. Not to continuously have walkovers.

I said Peteyd, because he played ddasey last, and there is a precedent from a few years ago that the person who WD's is replaced by the person they played and beat previously.

Jarro
28th May 2011, 02:18 PM
It's a personal choice. He doesn't like to play a matchplay event during a big event. He wouldn't give a shit if it was in a run if the mill sunday comp.

I didn't wanna play the ninja at the masters either, but time was running out :(

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:20 PM
Yes it directly affects me because I live with him! If people were slagging off your wife would that not affect you?

I'm sorry, can you point me to the post where I 'slagged off' Pete?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:23 PM
I agree that it gives people a chance to play matchplay who otherwise might not get the opportunity. But there are deadlines in place for a reason. Both times a game was organised and both times his opponent has forfeited. Is it really his fault if he doesn't want to **** around and try to organise another match with another opponent when deadlines are already passed?

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:29 PM
I agree that it gives people a chance to play matchplay who otherwise might not get the opportunity. But there are deadlines in place for a reason. Both times a game was organised and both times his opponent has forfeited. Is it really his fault if he doesn't want to **** around and try to organise another match with another opponent when deadlines are already passed?

But it's not really in the spirit of the competition either.

And since when have deadlines been a big issue? Walkovers are a bigger issue.

Jarro
28th May 2011, 02:29 PM
Maybe we should make it that the deadline rule is enforced strictly then.

If you haven't played by the due date then that's it ... game over !!

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:31 PM
Maybe we should make it that the deadline rule is enforced strictly then.

If you haven't played by the due date then that's it ... game over !!

For who?

Jarro
28th May 2011, 02:33 PM
For who?

The person who agrees to play the game at the set date, then backs out.

If both parties have agreed on a date to play .. then whoever bails falls down.

Unless of course they still have a reasonable amount of time to arrange another game.

kpac
28th May 2011, 02:36 PM
For who?

Both, but that would stuff the program up.

Sorry shaz, but i cant see any reason for a result to the match, when there is a competitor waiting (albeit a late inclusion)
Pete has been on the receiving end of a re-inclusion before as well. I'd imagine he'd understand.

But all in all, there does need to be some rule clarifications for future years.

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:37 PM
The person who agrees to play the game at the set date, then backs out.

If both parties have agreed on a date to play .. then whoever bails falls down.

Unless of course they still have a reasonable amount of time to arrange another game.

But what if said person who turned up, has made it difficult for the other player with limited availability?

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:39 PM
Both, but that would stuff the program up.

Sorry shaz, but i cant see any reason for a result to the match, when there is a competitor waiting (albeit a late inclusion)
Pete has been on the receiving end of a re-inclusion before as well. I'd imagine he'd understand.

But all in all, there does need to be some rule clarifications for future years.

I agree with this. (about clarifying rules for future years)

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:47 PM
So if it was the other way around and Pete was the one who forfeited then it wouldn't be a problem?

kpac
28th May 2011, 02:49 PM
So if it was the other way around and Pete was the one who forfeited then it wouldn't be a problem?

Correct. That is the precedence.
What's your suggestion??

It's got bugger-all to do with pete or anyone else, it's only a comment on the competition not the players. It's just stating how thing have been sorted out previously... I'm all for a competition overhaul obviously.... But until that happens surely precedence is the only fair way?

Iain
28th May 2011, 02:52 PM
Who said that?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 02:52 PM
I know Pete has been reincluded once before... however it was against DC and DC only gave pete the option of playing at his home course... how is that any better than a walkover?

kpac
28th May 2011, 02:58 PM
I know Pete has been reincluded once before... however it was against DC and DC only gave pete the option of playing at his home course... how is that any better than a walkover?


Are you saying pete should just go through due to ddasey's withdrawal?

I don't really care to be honest. It's just not how it's worked in the past. And strengthens the call for some rule clarifications IMO

Ned
28th May 2011, 02:58 PM
Ummmm there appears to be a key factor missing in this argument.......peter_rs.

What's his take on this seeing as he is the other player in this match play ?

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 03:02 PM
Forfeits have been results in previous matches Kpac. Sometimes if time permits and the person getting through on a forfeit wants to open it up to the previous loser then that has happened also. The problem is there is no hard and fast rule regarding forfeits.

peter_rs
28th May 2011, 03:29 PM
Guys move on.

Kpac > Yes I did get a second chance two years ago against Dc but we had little time to organise a game before the deadline and he wanted me to play on his course.

Iain > Both of us had a busy schedule for the last two months, its not one or the others fault. Shit happens.

For the record, I don't play my matchplay games in the ozgolf major days and hence I've never played round 1 in the wynnum cup.

I would pay an entry fee, and I enter each year in good faith that I'll have enough time to play each round. I ask anyone to predict their commitments for any two month period a year in advance.

I would have perferred to extend the time with ddasey but time makes it hard. Eg. At this stage I'm back for the Nudgee Plate which Dave wasn't playing in and then Dave was away for 10 days after that. By the end of that it's late June and if work does not change for either of us, that leaves one month for the winner to organise his next match. That is assuming there isn't a draw ;)

If PeteyD wants to step up, fine. But there is no time to arrange a match and if a match can't happen, then I go through on a forfeit which is the precendent and why the year i was reinistated I had to play dc with little notice.

As a side note, what is the status on the other round 2 matches. I don't see a lot of results.

sms316
28th May 2011, 03:35 PM
He doesn't like to play a matchplay event during a big event.
:lol::lol::lol:

Funniest post of the thread.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 03:41 PM
Guys move on.

I can't. You hurt my feelings.

nudgee
28th May 2011, 05:44 PM
I agree this year's matchplay has been a bit of a joke - whats the point of round deadlines if hardly anyone sticks to it?

I am with Jarro on this one - he played his matchplay at a course/event he would have preferred not to but he did so he would comply with deadlines - I played at Nudgee south and whilst it is kinda my home track, I hate the south course as it does not suit my game at all - proof is I have played three matchplay rounds there and lost all 3.

Why could the forfeits not have been replayed?? unless one of the players has voluntarily offered a forfeit (eg choppa). If the deadlines are not "real" why could we have not re-scheduled any of the forfeits?

I would hate to win on a forfeit and would prefer to re-schedule

kpac
28th May 2011, 06:20 PM
I play another social matchplay comp that runs over a year. Rules a little more serious. Cant play at either peoples home track, and match MUST be completed by the cut off date. If matches aren't completed the 2 players have to somehow come up with a winner (toss a coin or argue over who's fault it was the game didn't happen etc.)
I dont really think it's a perfect system by any-means, but last year there we not forfeits or games not completed in a group of 32. Also not late games.
There's an entry fee, and the pool goes to the winner. I like the ozgolf's social side of things, but we need to look at efficiencies of the competition imo.

sms316
28th May 2011, 06:22 PM
There's an entry fee, and the pool goes to the winner. I like the ozgolf's social side of things, but we need to look at efficiencies of the competition imo.

Just will tell you that you are wrong.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 06:25 PM
http://www.ozgolf.net/andyp/OZgolf%20Matchplay%202011.jpg

sms316
28th May 2011, 06:27 PM
So if Rusty and Moe don't play by 31/5 am I back in? If completion dates aren't going to be enforced then this comp is a joke.

Eag's
28th May 2011, 06:28 PM
I wonder why we bother, every year it turns into a shit fight :roll:

sms316
28th May 2011, 06:31 PM
I wonder why we bother, every year it turns into a shit fight :roll:

Very simple solution. First listed is responsible for the match being completed. If not completed then that person automatically forfeits, unless they can prove that they deserve otherwise. Onus is on them. Zero tolerance.

nudgee
28th May 2011, 06:33 PM
I wonder why we bother, every year it turns into a shit fight :roll:

You are absolutely right Eags - this year's matchplay is rapidly approaching "farcical" status - actually it is already there.

so when do we start putting our names down for next year :mrgreen:

AndyP
28th May 2011, 06:35 PM
So if Rusty and Moe don't play by 31/5 am I back in? If completion dates aren't going to be enforced then this comp is a joke.It's pretty simple really. We would rather have matches played than have walkovers.

Unless you think having another 4 walkovers by the end of this weekend is a good thing?

The thing that is embarrassing is that the draw was done the earliest it has ever been done, I believe.

sms316
28th May 2011, 06:39 PM
It's pretty simple really. We would rather have matches played than have walkovers.

Unless you think having another 4 walkovers by the end of this weekend is a good thing?

The thing that is embarrassing is that the draw was done the earliest it has ever been done, I believe.

Make examples of them. Go with walkovers.

Rusty and I live 100km from each other and had completely different schedules and managed to get it done when it was pissing down every day.

There is no excuse.

AndyP
28th May 2011, 06:41 PM
There are excuses.

sms316
28th May 2011, 06:43 PM
There are excuses.
But not reasons.

If you can't do it in 2 months then you aren't trying. Sort it out as soon as possible rather than leave it until the last minute.

shazza_rs
28th May 2011, 06:43 PM
How does having the draw done early help??? It's not the first round matches holding this thing up!