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AndyP
15th March 2005, 11:50 AM
Here's an update on how people are going so far.  The year looked at for improvement is from Champs (01/11/04) to Champs (27/11/05).

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/72/19/OZgolfHandicaps1.jpg

Seems to be a few of the same names up the top of the list as there was last year.  But look out for Trung when he confirms his details.
Of course there is plenty of time for the rest of us to improve, and plenty of time for those at the top to slip.

The following are unconfirmed, as I could either not find golflink details, or find accurate handicap details at the listed dates.  If you could provide these details to me (or even better your golflink number if you have one), you can be promoted to the above list.

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/72/19/OZgolfHandicaps2.jpg

Also if I have missed someone, let me know.

Last year's thread is at: http://ozgolf.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=987&start=0

Fishman Dan
15th March 2005, 12:00 PM
You've been spurred on by the final episode of The Biggest Loser have you? :roll:

AndyP
15th March 2005, 12:04 PM
You've been spurred on by the final episode of The Biggest Loser have you? :roll:
Sorry Fish, don't watch the show, so I've got no idea what you are talking about.

Trung
15th March 2005, 12:06 PM
AP,

your 2 attachments are not working #-o . Can anyone else see it?

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 12:15 PM
thats it then, Vegas and I are battling for the Spoon.

AndyP
15th March 2005, 12:18 PM
AP,

your 2 attachments are not working #-o . Can anyone else see it?
They are images from ImageSpot.
I can see them, amanda and Fishy must be able to see them too.

I need confirmation of your exact handicap at 1/11/04, and now.
I have it as 9 (from Champs, but not exact) and 6.1 respectively.

Fishman Dan
15th March 2005, 12:26 PM
I can see the images.

AP - you got a calender? Do something for me?

Flip over a few more pages. In fact, count them off. I think you'll find there are 9 more pages (and 9 more pretty pics) after the one you are currently looking at.

Trung
15th March 2005, 01:13 PM
Some maths for us all.

Here is a senario.. 8)

Player No. (1)* started at Hcp 27.0 and then got to Hcp 21.4 at the end of the year. (Lost of 6 shots)
Player No. (2)* started at Hcp 18.1 and then got to Hcp 12.5 at the end of the year. (Lost of 5 shots)
Player No. (3)* started at Hcp 13.4 and then got to Hcp 9.6 at the end of the year (Lost of 3 shots)
Player No. (4)* started at Hcp 6.4 and then got to Hcp 3.5 at the end of the year (Lost of 2 shots)

Who is the overall winner? :wink: :smt017 #-o

































Here is how I would calculate it..

(0.4 every shot) Hcp 19.5+
(0.3 every shot) Hcp 12.5 -> 19.4
(0.2 every shot) Hcp 4.5 -> 12.4
(0.1 every shot) Hcp less than 4.5


Player No. (1)* (27.0-21.4) / (0.4) = 14 shots under for the year
Player No. (2)* (18.1-12.5) / (0.3) = 18.67 shots under for the year
Player No. (3)* [(13.4-12.5) / (0.3)] + [(12.5-9.6) / (0.2)] = 17.5 shots under for the year
Player No. (4)* [(6.4-4.5) / (0.2)] + [(4.5-3.5) / (0.1)] = 19.5 shots under for the year

Winner is "Player No. (4)" due to the fact that he is the most under par. (even though he lost only 2 shots) :smt098

Flowergirl
15th March 2005, 01:16 PM
LOoks like TRung is trying to protect his title already :wink:

Trung
15th March 2005, 01:19 PM
LOoks like TRung is trying to protect his title already :wink:

Love ya FG. Send me some flowers? :wink:

Flowergirl
15th March 2005, 01:28 PM
LOoks like TRung is trying to protect his title already :wink:

Love ya FG. Send me some flowers? :wink:

You gotta have a baby for me to send you flowers ( and no - that wasn't an invitation!!!) :wink:

AndyP
15th March 2005, 01:33 PM
Player No. (1)* started at Hcp 27.0 and then got to Hcp 21.4 at the end of the year. (Lost of 6 shots)
Player No. (2)* started at Hcp 18.1 and then got to Hcp 12.5 at the end of the year. (Lost of 5 shots)
Player No. (3)* started at Hcp 13.4 and then got to Hcp 9.6 at the end of the year (Lost of 3 shots)
Player No. (4)* started at Hcp 6.4 and then got to Hcp 3.5 at the end of the year (Lost of 2 shots)

Who is the overall winner? :wink: :smt017 #-o
Trung Ranking
#1 Player 4, 19.5 shots under
#2 Player 2, 18.67 shots
#3 Player 3, 17.5 shots
#4 Player 1, 14 shots

Using method in first post.
#1 Player 4, 45.3% improvement of h/cap
#2 Player 2, 30.9%
#3 Player 3, 28.4%
#4 Player 1, 20.7%

Both methods give the same result.
Did I miss your point?
You would be ranked first above, if 9.0 was your h/cap in Nov.

Bruce
15th March 2005, 01:33 PM
Do you work at the ATO Trung?

I guess that makes the choices between progressive or flat tax...umm.. scoring.

Trung
15th March 2005, 01:36 PM
AndyP,

Sorry mate... I can't see those pictures in your first post.. :oops:

Can you email them to me? :D

Rgs,

Trungie :P

AndyP
15th March 2005, 01:39 PM
Sorry mate... I can't see those pictures in your first post.. :oops:

Can you email them to me? :D
Sorry Trung. Thought you must have figured out what the problem was. I'll send you the spreadsheet.

Trung
15th March 2005, 01:40 PM
Do you work at the ATO Trung?


I love Maths, was ranked No. 87 (out of 63,000 school students) in the country when I did a test back in 1993. I was 1 mark away from the top 15s :x .

Not bad for an Ozchopper 8)

BrisVegas
15th March 2005, 01:45 PM
Holy crap..spreadsheets for Most Improved :shock: ...I'm with Dion..this is all too much for me to handle.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 01:51 PM
Trung, if your so smart how come you cant see the images? :roll:

right clikc on the red x and choose show picture.

if not showing now, right click and choose properties,. copy the URL and paste into your browser.

still cant see them, try opening http://imgspot.com
if you still cant, your computer is broken, go buy a Mac
or let me know and i will tell you what to do next.



..this is all too much for me to handle.

i am not surprised, your down the bottom of the spreadsheet with me.

actually I just noticed an irregularity. Vegas is 2nd in the POTY yet he is last in most improved?????

Flowergirl
15th March 2005, 02:06 PM
Mmmmmmmm - must be like the Emperors New Clothes - I aint even got any red crosses :shock:

Trung
15th March 2005, 02:12 PM
right clikc on the red x and choose show picture.
Done.. Not Working


if not showing now, right click and choose properties,. copy the URL and paste into your browser.
Done.. Not Working


still cant see them, try opening http://imgspot.com Done, can see website :P

But still can't see picture... and I don't want a MAC.... Hate MAC computers :twisted:

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 02:20 PM
can you open this URL?

http://img14.imgspot.com/

if not go to command prompt and type: nslookup img14.imgspot.com

Bruce
15th March 2005, 02:24 PM
Some maths for us all.

Here is a senario.. 8)

Player No. (1)* started at Hcp 27.0 and then got to Hcp 21.4 at the end of the year. (Lost of 6 shots)
Player No. (2)* started at Hcp 18.1 and then got to Hcp 12.5 at the end of the year. (Lost of 5 shots)
Player No. (3)* started at Hcp 13.4 and then got to Hcp 9.6 at the end of the year (Lost of 3 shots)
Player No. (4)* started at Hcp 6.4 and then got to Hcp 3.5 at the end of the year (Lost of 2 shots)

Who is the overall winner? :wink: :smt017 #-o

[deletia]

Here is how I would calculate it..

(0.4 every shot) Hcp 19.5+
(0.3 every shot) Hcp 12.5 -> 19.4
(0.2 every shot) Hcp 4.5 -> 12.4
(0.1 every shot) Hcp less than 4.5


Player No. (1)* (27.0-21.4) / (0.4) = 14 shots under for the year
Player No. (2)* (18.1-12.5) / (0.3) = 18.67 shots under for the year
Player No. (3)* [(13.4-12.5) / (0.3)] + [(12.5-9.6) / (0.2)] = 17.5 shots under for the year
Player No. (4)* [(6.4-4.5) / (0.2)] + [(4.5-3.5) / (0.1)] = 19.5 shots under for the year

Winner is "Player No. (4)" due to the fact that he is the most under par. (even though he lost only 2 shots) :smt098

This is a good start but players should be able to claim additional improvement credits.

For example - a long driver who provides assistance to another player during a range session should be able to claim a hcp improvement credit of up to 1 shot for doubling the driving distance of the player mentored. This is to reflect the increase in the greater hcp improvement economy that such mentoring provides. eg. ALD shows me how to hit the ball 50% longer and he gets a 0.5 hcp increase credit.

Conversely, Ho's get frequent honeymoon benefits from equipment changes that impact hcp improvment rating. Hcp improvements that result from bag changes cannot be immediately realised. Once the item has remained in play for 6 months, then any deferred hcp improvment points can be taken in full or held over to offset a future purchase. Players will be required to submit a monthly BAS (Bag Activity Statement) to ensure compliance.

These additions will result in a stronger hcp improvment for OzGolfers as a whole.

AndyP
15th March 2005, 02:44 PM
If you can't view the pictures, go to this link (http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/), and click on the handicap link.

BrisVegas
15th March 2005, 02:51 PM
actually I just noticed an irregularity. Vegas is 2nd in the POTY yet he is last in most improved?????

Not really an irregularity... Consistency is the key. I've managed to play slightly crap golf in a lot of events. I've been shooting 3-4 worse than my hcap in most events, which is usually good enough for a top-half of the field finish. I think I actually took second place at Lakelands with 32 points for goodness sakes.... Eventually I will drift out to about a 9-10 hcap, at which point I could give this POTY title a shake. :wink:

Trung
15th March 2005, 02:54 PM
can you open this URL?

http://img14.imgspot.com/
can not Blakey



if not go to command prompt and type: nslookup img14.imgspot.com

http://img198.exs.cx/img198/9273/opy0jx.jpg

What do I do next?

AndyP
15th March 2005, 02:55 PM
Eventually I will drift out to about a 9-10 hcap
It's going to be hard getting that h/cap out if you're not playing much golf over the next few months or is this more a very long term goal. Do you need someone to just hand in cards for you, along with the comp fees? ;)

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 03:04 PM
can you open this URL?

http://img14.imgspot.com/
can not Blakey



if not go to command prompt and type: nslookup img14.imgspot.com

http://img198.exs.cx/img198/9273/opy0jx.jpg

What do I do next?

ok that URL resolves to the same IP as my PC , so its not a DNS problem.

what is the HTTP error you get when you try to open that URL.

Something is blocking HTTP traffic from that domain to your PC. Any kind of security software on you PC could do that, or it could be at your ISP.

I would suggest you ring or email them and ask if they can access that same URL using the same network connection as you do, or find another person using the same ISP to do the test.

Flowergirl
15th March 2005, 03:17 PM
If you can't view the pictures, go to this link (http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/), and click on the handicap link.

Yep.that worked...thanks AndyP. :wink: ( Mitchell is so cute)

AndyP
15th March 2005, 03:26 PM
If you can't view the pictures, go to this link (http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/), and click on the handicap link.

Yep.that worked...thanks AndyP. :wink: ( Mitchell is so cute)
Take a little detour, did we?
He is cute. His father, the postman, is a handsome man.

Trung
15th March 2005, 03:27 PM
Blakey, I give up :-#

AP, be easier for all of us if you use this hosting service http://imageshack.us/ :smt023

Grunt
15th March 2005, 04:37 PM
Hi all my golf link number is 20509 00074. The handicap has blown out a bit too.

davidp
15th March 2005, 04:57 PM
aph, my handicap as at Nov 2004 was 22.4. It's now down to 21. :)
So, I'm going the right way.

Ona
15th March 2005, 05:30 PM
am I the only person here who isnt handicapped? :wink:

Trung
15th March 2005, 05:38 PM
Hi all my golf link number is 20509 00074. The handicap has blown out a bit too.

Add a link to your signature so AP can quickly find it. :wink:

Jono
15th March 2005, 06:01 PM
Trung,

Try this: http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/OZgolf/OZgolf_Handicap_Improvement.xls

AndyP,

If I remember correctly, Trung just dropped from 10 to 9 on the day before the Ozgolf Champs last year ... I think he got down to 9.4 or something.

I'll check exactly what I was on at the time of the Champs and let you know. I am currently sitting on 9.6. Plan to get it down to 7.4 by November ... 8)

Grunt
15th March 2005, 06:08 PM
Profile edited.

How do you do it so instaed of the whole link it just say for instance "Grants Golflink"

Trung
15th March 2005, 06:19 PM
Trung,

Try this: http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/OZgolf/OZgolf_Handicap_Improvement.xls

AndyP,

If I remember correctly, Trung just dropped from 10 to 9 on the day before the Ozgolf Champs last year ... I think he got down to 9.4 or something.


Jono... you are 4 hours too late.. :lol:


Your correct about my hcp change. I played the Saturday morning and had 39 points thus costing me a shot at the OZchamps. I will check the record at the proshop's computer this weekend.

AndyP
15th March 2005, 08:31 PM
Trung,

Try this: http://andrewpholden.tripod.com/OZgolf/OZgolf_Handicap_Improvement.xls

That link won't work, as tripod doesn't allow hotlinking, as they want you to go to my website, and see all their ads.
However, that is the location.


Profile edited.

How do you do it so instaed of the whole link it just say for instance "Grants Golflink"

[url=http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=2050900074]Grant' s Golflink[/url]
That should do the trick, Grunter.

Grunt
16th March 2005, 07:13 AM
Thanks andy & Kevin have sucessfully added my golf link to my profile

Jarro
16th March 2005, 08:37 AM
Damoocow ..........

READ ABOVE :!: :!: :!:

Onewood
16th March 2005, 03:39 PM
Damoocow ..........

READ ABOVE :!: :!: :!:

Been there tried that Jarro,he's just got no idea :lol:

Trung
19th March 2005, 11:40 AM
But look out for Trung when he confirms his details.


Exact hcp on 1/11/2004 was 9.1

AndyP
21st March 2005, 12:07 PM
Updated:
Includes handicaps upto 14/3.

Pos Name Improvement %
1 Trung 33.0%
2 courty 23.7%
3 gazgolf 23.5%
4 Scotty_G 20.0%
5 caz 19.4%
6 onewood 17.9%
7 Eag's 17.0%
8 senecio 16.7%
9 Grunt 12.8%
10 marcel 10.3%
11 CobraSS 9.9%
12 jarro 8.9%
13 Iain 8.2%
14 990BLuva 6.6%
15 Shavey 6.3%
16 davidp 5.8%
17 damoocow 5.6%
18 Davemason 5.5%
19 Virgal_Tracy 2.2%
20 AndyP 2.2%
21 burger 0.0%
22 Peter_Rs 0.0%
23 Wavemaker 0.0%
24 goughy -0.9%
25 andylo -1.1%
26 Kee -1.6%
27 Flowergirl -2.0%
28 drunken -3.0%
29 golfer69 -4.9%
30 amanda -5.3%
31 paul -5.9%
32 Keza_G -7.3%
33 Blakey -7.7%
34 BrisVegas -9.8%

Unconfirmed:
35 nudgee 20.0%
36 Terry 20.0%
37 zipptopp 16.3%
38 Jono 4.0%
39 Choppa -2.4%
40 Fishy N/A
41 Mike N/A
42 Speirsy N/A
+Others

http://andrewpholden.tripod.com

BrisVegas
21st March 2005, 12:12 PM
See, I am being rewarded for consistently bad golf...

#1 on the POTY leaderboard.
Dead Last on the Most Improved.

Fishman Dan
21st March 2005, 12:16 PM
I think i'm 18.4 and about to graduate - so that's a negative for me, space ranger.

Should be the confidence builder i need too - the #1 index hole at Casino isn't such a toughy but i can do with the extra shot ;)

AndyP
21st March 2005, 01:09 PM
I think i'm 18.4 and about to graduate - so that's a negative for me, space ranger.
Vegas still has you covered. Looks like you have gone from 17.4 to 18.4, -5.7%.

Getting two shots on a hole is just wrong.

AndyP
31st March 2005, 03:37 PM
Confirmed a few more handicaps, got a couple more golflink numbers:

Name , H/cap at 1 Nov , H/cap at 30 Mar , Improvement %
Trung , 9.1 , 6.3 , 30.8%
onewood , 6.7 , 4.9 , 26.9%
courty , 9.7 , 7.5 , 22.7%
gazgolf , 8.1 , 6.3 , 22.2%
Scotty_G , 4.5 , 3.6 , 20.0%
caz , 9.3 , 7.8 , 16.1%
Eag's , 14.7 , 12.4 , 15.6%
senecio , 9.6 , 8.1 , 15.6%
Grunt , 26.6 , 23.3 , 12.4%
Virgal_Tracy , 22.4 , 19.9 , 11.2%
nudgee , 10.8 , 9.8 , 9.3%
jarro , 12.4 , 11.4 , 8.1%
CobraSS , 9.1 , 8.4 , 7.7%
Iain , 15.9 , 14.7 , 7.5%
marcel , 6.8 , 6.3 , 7.4%
990BLuva , 18.1 , 17.0 , 6.1%
damoocow , 24.9 , 23.5 , 5.6%
Shavey , 11.1 , 10.5 , 5.4%
kwantfm , 12.5 , 11.9 , 4.8%
Davemason , 21.9 , 20.9 , 4.6%
davidp , 22.3 , 21.3 , 4.5%
AndyP , 13.5 , 13.4 , 0.7%
burger , 21.2 , 21.2 , 0.0%
Wavemaker , 27.0 , 27.0 , 0.0%
Flowergirl , 19.8 , 19.8 , 0.0%
Choppa , 16.6 , 16.7 , -0.6%
goughy , 10.8 , 10.9 , -0.9%
Peter_Rs , 24.4 , 24.7 , -1.2%
andylo , 26.6 , 27.0 , -1.5%
Kee , 25.0 , 25.4 , -1.6%
drunken , 20.2 , 20.8 , -3.0%
Fishy , 17.4 , 18.0 , -3.4%
amanda , 20.9 , 22.0 , -5.3%
golfer69 , 10.3 , 10.9 , -5.8%
paul , 11.8 , 12.6 , -6.8%
Keza_G , 8.2 , 8.8 , -7.3%
BrisVegas , 6.1 , 6.8 , -11.5%
Blakey , 5.2 , 6.1 , -17.3%

Flowergirl
31st March 2005, 05:19 PM
Don't you worry guys...............this title is MINE :twisted: :shock:

Onewood
31st March 2005, 06:08 PM
Don't you worry guys...............this title is MINE :twisted: :shock:

Great Matchplay player 8) :P BUT........... :D

Bruce
31st March 2005, 07:19 PM
This presents me with a dilemma.

I am putting in my cards for my first official handicap and I might end up starting at less than 27.

Should I dog my last 3 cards to make sure I start at the max and give myself maximum improvement opportunity? Would that be wrong?

Flowergirl
31st March 2005, 09:55 PM
This presents me with a dilemma.

I am putting in my cards for my first official handicap and I might end up starting at less than 27.

Should I dog my last 3 cards to make sure I start at the max and give myself maximum improvement opportunity? Would that be wrong?

Yes it would be wrong Bruce - cos you might then win the most improved player and that trophy has my name written on it!!!!!!!!!

And you just wait Mr Kev......at least I don't play off 10 and off the yellows!! ( yea I know - I play off the reds!!!)

Virgal_Tracy
1st April 2005, 08:54 AM
Bruce,

It's not improvement by most shots but percentages, therefore the higher the handicap the greater number of shots that you have to drop to get a higher percentage decrease.

If you look at Trung, he has only (big word when already in single figures)dropped 3.1 strokes for a 34% decrease. If you were to drop 3.1 from 27 then that would only be an 11.5% decrease. For you to match Trungie you will have to drop 9 strokes which off 27 means bettering your handicap by 23.

Play for the lowest you can get then the improvement needed isn't so great. IMHO of course.

Fishman Dan
1st April 2005, 09:08 AM
Bruce,

It's not improvement by most shots but percentages, therefore the higher the handicap the greater number of shots that you have to drop to get a higher percentage decrease.

If you look at Trung, he has only (big word when already in single figures)dropped 3.1 strokes for a 34% decrease. If you were to drop 3.1 from 27 then that would only be an 11.5% decrease. For you to match Trungie you will have to drop 9 strokes which off 27 means bettering your handicap by 23.

Play for the lowest you can get then the improvement needed isn't so great. IMHO of course.

I see where you're coming from, and tend to agree. But as a 26 handicapper i knew that my handicap would come down rapidly once i got used to playing regularly etc.

It's harder to lose 3 strokes from 8 then losing 10 from the high 20's - especially when you're slicing off .4 per shot under handicap.

For mine - a low handicap going lower beats a high marker making big inroads, and it's more than putting numbers into a spreadsheet and declaring the biggest number great than 0 being the winner. You should also factor in handicaps, ACR's on the home courses, CCR's on the days played....

Bruce
1st April 2005, 11:13 AM
Trung's effort is awesome.

But anecdotally I think that people's hcps approach a point asymptotically and then hover around there until something changes. The trick is riding that curve to it's likely end.

To match Trung would require going from 27 to 18. Or 25 to 16.5. Which of the two numbers is the most likely end result?

Where you start is equally important to where you finish.

Fishman Dan
1st April 2005, 11:32 AM
Trung's effort is awesome

And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy either....

So Trung, when's my next invite to Carny :?: :lol:

3oneday
1st April 2005, 11:37 AM
Trung's effort is awesome
when's my next invite to Carny :?: :lol:Fish, I would have thought Carny more suited to a hooker :?: :?: :?:

rather than a gayfader :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fishman Dan
1st April 2005, 11:40 AM
Trung's effort is awesome
when's my next invite to Carny :?: :lol:Fish, I would have thought Carny more suited to a hooker :?: :?: :?:

rather than a gayfader :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's Power-fader to you....

There are hookers at Carny? Trung - you've shouted us lunch, but not much else?? :?

AndyP
1st April 2005, 01:30 PM
Kev closed in on Trung with his golflink update, and took over 2nd. See above.

Iain, your Redland Bay score hasn't gone in yet??

Trung
1st April 2005, 06:27 PM
AP,
my new hcp is 6.3...

My 37 points last week didn't do anything as the CCR was only 71 :evil: .
Also had a game on Tuesday with Marcel. :oops: .

Thanks,

goughy
2nd April 2005, 09:52 AM
Well, at least I probably won't have to worry about coming last in this category. I've had 1 comp game since the date of the champs and may be able to squeeze another one in before the 2005 champs.

Trung
2nd April 2005, 05:55 PM
Trung's effort is awesome

And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy either....

So Trung, when's my next invite to Carny :?: :lol:

I will find a spot this month for you... Are weekdays good for you? :wink: :lol:

Will PM if I can find something, spots are limited as the major pennants are on Sundays around this time of the year. :evil:

mike
5th April 2005, 04:13 PM
Handicap Nov '04 13.2 http://www.golflink.com.au/HandicapHistory.aspx?golflink_no=4061001240

Current 10.3 ( no golf link at this club , you'll have to take my word for it. )

markTHEblake
11th April 2005, 09:21 PM
AndyP - update that list - NOW! :evil:

AndyP
11th April 2005, 10:16 PM
AndyP - update that list - NOW! :evil:
I didn't think anyone cared enough for it to be updated weekly.

I can tell you that you are no longer the least improved golfer, and Kev has now taken over the lead from Trung as most improved.
I believe present or future North Queenslanders hold 3 of the top 4 spots.

Onewood
12th April 2005, 07:39 AM
AndyP - update that list - NOW! :evil:
I didn't think anyone cared enough for it to be updated weekly.

I can tell you that you are no longer the least improved golfer, and Kev has now taken over the lead from Trung as most improved.
I believe present or future North Queenslanders hold 3 of the top 4 spots.

I care :D I've been waiting for Trung to go out that extra .1 and the next .1 so I could catch him 8) Now Trung has something to strive for the scores will start improving again :wink:

I think everyone has a little interest but I find that there is not enough bragging and sledging going on :roll: check out the footy tipping everyone seems shy in the sledging / bragging department :D who won this week :smt102 who come last this week :smt102

Trung
12th April 2005, 07:59 AM
I care :D I've been waiting for Trung to go out that extra .1 and the next .1 so I could catch him 8) Now Trung has something to strive for the scores will start improving again :wink:

Good on ya Kev... Long way to go mate.... :D

Virgal_Tracy
12th April 2005, 09:25 AM
Well I'll let you know that I am interested and whether it is bragging or not I am going to brag about this being the only category that I am in the top 10.

as I don't get the chance to play enough events to win the POTY title, I will just have to continue improving for the next 6 months to have a shot at the title.

I only have to lose another 4.5 shots (like that will happen) to take top spot.

I'm still in the running for the matchplay (easy to say when haven't played a match yet) so at the moment in the running for 2 titles.

Onewood
12th April 2005, 11:29 AM
I care :D I've been waiting for Trung to go out that extra .1 and the next .1 so I could catch him 8) Now Trung has something to strive for the scores will start improving again :wink:

Good on ya Kev... Long way to go mate.... :D

And a new course to tend with in July :D

Vergal_Tracy, the way to get that handicap down, is to first give up work :D

Check the stat's out :wink:
When Trung was leading he was not working, now I'm not working :D
Trung has gone back into the work force and the scores are rising :roll:

AndyP
12th April 2005, 11:49 AM
To steal a line from Kev, New All Time Low. \:D/
Me very happy.

9/4/05: 13.4 -> 12.5

Maybe April is my month for golf. Last year I hit my previous best of 12.7 on 17/4.

:D :D :D

Onewood
12th April 2005, 11:57 AM
To steal a line from Kev, New All Time Low. \:D/
Me very happy.

9/4/05: 13.4 -> 12.5

Maybe April is my month for golf. Last year I hit my previous best of 12.7 on 17/4.

:D :D :D

Well done AP 8) Just a bees dick of A GRADE :shock: :D

Flowergirl
12th April 2005, 12:05 PM
To steal a line from Kev, New All Time Low. \:D/
Me very happy.

9/4/05: 13.4 -> 12.5

Maybe April is my month for golf. Last year I hit my previous best of 12.7 on 17/4.

:D :D :D

Great work Andyp.........well done there matey :D

AndyP
12th April 2005, 12:22 PM
Position, Name , H/cap at 10 Apr , Improvement % , Pos'n as at 30/3
onewood , 4.6 , 31.3% , 2
Trung , 6.6 , 27.5% , 1
Mike 10.3 22.0% 5
courty , 7.6 , 21.6% , 3
Scotty_G , 3.6 , 20.0% , 6
gazgolf , 6.5 , 19.8% , 4
Eag's , 12.0 , 18.4% , 8
caz , 7.7 , 17.2% , 7
senecio , 8.3 , 13.5% , 9
Grunt , 23.3 , 12.4% , 10
Iain , 14.1 , 11.3% , 15
Virgal_Tracy , 20.0 , 10.7% , 11
nudgee , 9.9 , 8.3% , 12
AndyP , 12.5 , 7.4% , 23
CobraSS , 8.5 , 6.6% , 14
Peter_Rs , 22.8 , 6.6% , 29
jarro , 11.6 , 6.5% , 13
990BLuva , 17.0 , 6.1% , 16
damoocow , 23.5 , 5.6% , 18
Shavey , 10.5 , 5.4% , 19
Davemason , 20.9 , 4.6% , 21
davidp , 21.3 , 4.5% , 22
marcel , 6.5 , 4.4% , 17
kwantfm , 12.1 , 3.2% , 20
Blakey , 5.1 , 1.9% , 39
Wavemaker , 27.0 , 0.0% , 25
burger , 21.2 , 0.0% , 24
Flowergirl , 19.8 , 0.0% , 26
Choppa , 16.7 , -0.6% , 27
goughy , 10.9 , -0.9% , 28
Kee , 25.4 , -1.6% , 31
andylo , 27.2 , -2.3% , 30
drunken , 20.8 , -3.0% , 32
Fishy , 18.1 , -4.0% , 33
amanda , 22.0 , -5.3% , 34
golfer69 , 11.0 , -6.8% , 35
Keza_G , 8.8 , -7.3% , 37
paul , 12.7 , -7.6% , 36
BrisVegas , 6.8 , -11.5% , 38

Onewood has taken over the lead.
Look out here comes the Unit.
Peter_Rs is on the move (yours truly going alright too).
Blakey has dragged himself off the bottom, and is on track for his year goal. :roll:

BrisVegas
12th April 2005, 12:23 PM
WooHoo! I'm sticking kicking arsse in this event. :lol: :lol:

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 01:19 PM
WooHoo! I'm sticking kicking arsse in this event. :lol: :lol:

You're in very good company there mate ;)

I can see at least 3/4 of the KKT listed :oops:

Onewood
12th April 2005, 02:21 PM
I believe present or future North Queenslanders hold 3 of the top 4 spots.

This must be the place to be 8)

Trung
12th April 2005, 02:26 PM
I will be back :smt002

Onewood
12th April 2005, 03:01 PM
I will be back :smt002

Just let your handicap driffed out and have another go next year :wink: :lol:

BrisVegas
13th April 2005, 08:06 AM
I will be back :smt002

Just let your handicap driffed out and have another go next year :wink: :lol:

Damn it, Deuce Bigalow is on to my cunning plan.... :P :lol: :wink:

AndyP
27th April 2005, 01:14 PM
Great! Another thing for Kev to brag about. :roll:

Eags, Iain and Jarro climbing.
Blakey heading the other way.

Name , H/cap at 1 Nov , H/cap at 24 Apr , Improvement % , Pos as at 10/4
onewood , 6.7 , 4.9 , 26.9% , 1
Trung , 9.1 , 6.9 , 24.2% , 2
Mike 13.2 , 10.3 , 22.0% , 3
courty , 9.7 , 7.6 , 21.6% , 4
Eag's , 14.7 , 11.6 , 21.1% , 7
Scotty_G , 4.5 , 3.6 , 20.0% , 5
gazgolf , 8.1 , 6.6 , 18.5% , 6
caz , 9.3 , 7.7 , 17.2% , 8
Iain , 15.9 , 13.8 , 13.2% , 11
senecio , 9.6 , 8.4 , 12.5% , 9
Grunt , 26.6 , 23.5 , 11.7% , 10
Virgal_Tracy , 22.4 , 20.0 , 10.7% , 12
jarro , 12.4 , 11.4 , 8.1% , 17
nudgee , 10.8 , 10.0 , 7.4% , 13
AndyP , 13.5 , 12.6 , 6.7% , 14
Peter_Rs , 24.4 , 22.8 , 6.6% , 16
990BLuva , 18.1 , 17.0 , 6.1% , 18
CobraSS , 9.1 , 8.6 , 5.5% , 15
damoocow , 24.9 , 23.6 , 5.2% , 19
Davemason , 21.9 , 20.9 , 4.6% , 21
davidp , 22.3 , 21.3 , 4.5% , 22
Shavey , 11.1 , 10.7 , 3.6% , 20
kwantfm , 12.5 , 12.2 , 2.4% , 24
marcel , 6.8 , 6.7 , 1.5% , 23
Wavemaker , 27.0 , 27.0 , 0.0% , 26
burger , 21.2 , 21.2 , 0.0% , 26
Flowergirl , 19.8 , 19.8 , 0.0% , 26
goughy , 10.8 , 10.9 , -0.9% , 30
Choppa , 16.6 , 16.9 , -1.8% , 29
Kee , 25.0 , 25.5 , -2.0% , 31
andylo , 26.6 , 27.3 , -2.6% , 32
drunken , 20.2 , 20.8 , -3.0% , 33
golfer69 , 10.3 , 10.7 , -3.9% , 36
Fishy , 17.4 , 18.1 , -4.0% , 34
amanda , 20.9 , 21.8 , -4.3% , 35
Blakey , 5.2 , 5.5 , -5.8% , 25
Keza_G , 8.2 , 8.8 , -7.3% , 37
paul , 11.8 , 12.8 , -8.5% , 38
BrisVegas , 6.1 , 6.8 , -11.5% , 39

Fishman Dan
27th April 2005, 02:03 PM
You mean you can update this thread, but you are too lazy to create Footy Tipping stickies? :roll: :?

AndyP
27th April 2005, 02:05 PM
You mean you can update this thread, but you are too lazy to create Footy Tipping stickies? :roll:  :?
Yep.

How hard do you think this is anyway?

mike
28th April 2005, 02:32 PM
Gone out to 10.5.

Damnit, which buttons do you press on the calculator to work this out ?

AndyP
28th April 2005, 02:47 PM
Gone out to 10.5.

Damnit, which buttons do you press on the calculator to work this out ?
Woah! This changes everything.
Massive drop to fifth now, Mike.
Courty, can you drop down to Mike's place and remove all sharp objects.

mike
28th April 2005, 02:53 PM
Bugger.

If I knew I was gonna drop that far I'd have kept my mouth shut.

Andy, which buttons ??

AndyP
28th April 2005, 03:11 PM
Andy, which buttons ??
(h1-h2)/h1 x 100 ;)

Trung
12th May 2005, 01:29 PM
I will be back :smt002

Just let your handicap driffed out and have another go next year :wink: :lol:

I'm back :P

Trung
16th May 2005, 06:58 PM
AP, can you do a quick update pleaseeeeeeeee? :wink:

AndyP
17th May 2005, 09:25 AM
AP, can you do a quick update pleaseeeeeeeee?  :wink:
Gee, we’re nice when we want something aren’t we?  :razz:

I’ll give the weekend rounds a chance to go into golflink, before updating.  So probably tomorrow or Thursday.

And yes, you are leading using both formulae.  :roll:

Jono
17th May 2005, 11:35 AM
AndyP,

May I please be included in the list? :wink:

Jono's Handicap
November 1st 2004 - 9.5
May 17th 2005 - 7.6 (the scorecard from Mac Grange hasn't come back yet ... :lol: )

Trung
17th May 2005, 12:18 PM
AndyP,

May I please be included in the list?  :wink:

Jono's Handicap
November 1st 2004 - 9.5
May 17th 2005 - 7.6 (the scorecard from Mac Grange hasn't come back yet ...  :lol:  )

Since you don't have golflink, you can copy my method hcp method (refer singature). You are an expert at copying all my stuff :lol:

Jono
17th May 2005, 01:21 PM
You are an expert at copying all my stuff  :lol:

Yeah, right. So Nudgee had the R7 before it hit the stores here ... You bought your putter off Nudgee ... next thing you'll be growing your hair like him and start hitting out of your shadow ... :roll: :lol:

Trung
17th May 2005, 03:07 PM
Irons came from AL's
3-wood from Terence
R7 from Pete
Putter from Nudgee
I think the Wedges are from an QLD Ozgolfer also

Grunt
17th May 2005, 03:29 PM
AndyP,

May I please be included in the list?  :wink:

Jono's Handicap
November 1st 2004 - 9.5
May 17th 2005 - 7.6 (the scorecard from Mac Grange hasn't come back yet ...  :lol:  )

Jono you will get .1 back as it was rated 68 for the day. I didn't move with +2, I thought it was going to start the handicap going in the right direction oh well maybe next week :?

Trung
21st May 2005, 07:56 PM
AP, I think I will be safe at the top for a few more weeks. 8) :wink:

Show us the new table 8)

AndyP
26th May 2005, 08:44 AM
Pos , Name , 1/11 , 25/5 , % , 24/4 Pos'n , Jono rankings
1 , Trung , 9.1 , 4.7 , 48.4% , 2 , 1
2 , courty , 9.7 , 6.8 , 29.9% , 4 , 2
3 , onewood , 6.7 , 4.9 , 26.9% , 1 , 6
4 , Eag's , 14.7 , 11.5 , 21.8% , 5 , 3
5 , Mike , 13.2 , 10.5 , 20.5% , 3 , 4
6 , Scotty_G , 4.5 , 3.6 , 20.0% , 6 , 12
7 , Jono , 9.5 7.7 , 18.9% , - , 7
8 , caz , 9.3 , 7.8 , 16.1% , 8 , 10
9 , Shavey , 11.1 , 9.4 , 15.3% , 22 , 8
10 , Grunt , 27.5 , 23.7 , 13.8% , 11 , 5
11 , gazgolf , 8.1 , 7.0 , 13.6% , 7 , 14
12 , Iain , 15.9 , 13.9 , 12.6% , 9 , 11
13 , senecio , 9.6 , 8.4 , 12.5% , 10 , 13
14 , CobraSS , 9.1 , 8.1 , 11.0% , 18 , 15
15 , Virgal_Tracy , 22.4 , 20.0 , 10.7% , 12 , 9
16 , kwantfm , 12.5 , 11.6 , 7.2% , 23 , 17
17 , AndyP , 13.5 , 12.6 , 6.7% , 15 , 18
18 , Peter_Rs , 24.4 , 22.9 , 6.1% , 16 , 16
19 , jarro , 12.4 , 11.7 , 5.6% , 13 , 21
20 , 990BLuva , 18.1 , 17.1 , 5.5% , 17 , 20
21 , damoocow , 24.9 , 23.6 , 5.2% , 19 , 19
22 , davidp , 22.3 , 21.3 , 4.5% , 21 , 22
23 , marcel , 6.8 , 6.5 , 4.4% , 24 , 24
24 , Davemason , 21.9 , 21.1 , 3.7% , 20 , 23
25 , nudgee , 10.8 , 10.5 , 2.8% , 14 , 25
26 , burger , 21.2 , 20.8 , 1.9% , 26 , 26
27 , Wavemaker , 27.0 , 27.0 , 0.0% , 25 , 27
27 , Bruce , 26.3 , 26.3 , 0.0% , - , 27
29 , Flowergirl , 19.8 , 19.9 , -0.5% , 27 , 29
30 , goughy , 10.8 , 10.9 , -0.9% , 28 , 30
31 , Choppa , 16.6 , 16.9 , -1.8% , 29 , 31
32 , Kee , 25.0 , 25.7 , -2.8% , 30 , 34
33 , drunken , 20.2 , 20.8 , -3.0% , 32 , 33
34 , andylo , 26.6 , 27.4 , -3.0% , 31 , 35
35 , golfer69 , 10.3 , 10.7 , -3.9% , 33 , 32
36 , Fishy , 17.4 , 18.2 , -4.6% , 34 , 36
37 , amanda , 20.9 , 22.0 , -5.3% , 35 , 38
38 , Keza_G , 8.2 , 8.8 , -7.3% , 37 , 37
39 , paul , 11.8 , 12.9 , -9.3% , 38 , 40
40 , Blakey , 5.2 , 5.8 , -11.5% , 36 , 39
41 , BrisVegas , 6.1 , 7.0 , -14.8% , 39 , 41
42 , Terry , 4.8 , 6.6 , -37.5% , 40 , 42

peter_rs
26th May 2005, 09:21 AM
AndyP add shazza_rs in for us 25.2 to 22.2 her golf link is in my footer is you want to check.

Onewood
26th May 2005, 04:16 PM
AP, I agree with everyone else on this one 8)

That you must have a golflinks number to be eligible :wink:

Look out courty I'm after you :D

Flowergirl
26th May 2005, 04:26 PM
AP, I agree with everyone else on this one 8)

That you must have a golflinks number to be eligible :wink:

Look out courty I'm after you :D

Hey....not fair!!!! My club don't have golflink.....hey we don't even have a computer at my club!!! ( not that I'm even in with a chance)

mike
26th May 2005, 06:28 PM
AP, I agree with everyone else on this one 8)

That you must have a golflinks number to be eligible :wink:



Better scrub me off that list then.

Gone out to 10.6 anyway.

Doesn't matter anymore.

:x

Bruce
26th May 2005, 07:55 PM
Come on - even backwood Mirboo has got Golflink now.

Trung
26th May 2005, 09:43 PM
Here is my way..

http://img210.echo.cx/img210/2864/hcp5yx.jpg

Onewood
26th May 2005, 11:27 PM
Trung if we did it your way you would probably be winning :D

Oh you are winning, in both :D well done mate 8) still time to catch you or time for you to come back to the field :wink:


The fish bit well on the golflink thingy :D I was chasing a Trung fish and got a flowergirl and a mike fish on the same line :lol: :lol:

Flowergirl
27th May 2005, 09:40 AM
Trung if we did it your way you would probably be winning :D

Oh you are winning, in both :D  well done mate 8) still time to catch you or time for you to come back to the field :wink:


The fish bit well on the golflink thingy :D I was chasing a Trung fish and got a flowergirl and a mike fish on the same line :lol:  :lol:

Yep.................got me by the gills there Kev!!!

AndyP
8th July 2005, 09:46 AM
The top 25:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2314/improvement7mj.jpg
Two of the three Nudgee members had a good month and a bit. The other one is a bit of a dud.
Noone is really catching up to Trung, and he's not coming back to the field.

Trung
8th July 2005, 11:33 AM
Noone is really catching up to Trung, and he's not coming back to the field.

:smt029 :smt023 \:D/ :mrgreen: =D> :smt004

drunken
8th July 2005, 11:41 AM
Why do we have two methods listed :?

Jono thinks he has more chance with his method??

AndyP
8th July 2005, 12:34 PM
It doesn't really matter, drunko.
The result of these methods does not necessarily determine who is awarded the most improved golfer, as Blakey has discussed before.
Jono would actually have less chance with his method, as he felt it disadvantaged those with higher handicaps.

It's just a snapshot of how we are all going.

Trung
8th July 2005, 01:08 PM
As long as I'm on top with the % ranking. I don't give a rat who he gives it to. :lol: :twisted: :P 8)

markTHEblake
10th July 2005, 06:38 PM
I think you should work it out based on the improvement from the highest handicap during the year, not from the handicap at the start of the year.

AndyP
20th September 2005, 11:34 AM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1544/improvement4di.jpg
Look out, andylo is coming.   :wink:

(Handicaps may not necessarily be accurate due to no golflink links)

BrisVegas
20th September 2005, 11:54 AM
thats it then, Vegas and I are battling for the Spoon.

I got you covered blakey. :wink:

AndyP
20th September 2005, 12:00 PM
thats it then,  Vegas and I are battling for the Spoon.

I got you covered blakey.  :wink:
And Tezza is in his own league.

Trung
20th September 2005, 05:57 PM
geeez... who bought this thread up again? :twisted:

Jono
20th September 2005, 06:15 PM
AndyP,

My handicap is currently 9.0 ...  :oops:   :oops:   :oops:

Been going in the wrong direction for the past 2 months.   :?   Time for some drastic changes ... hmmm ... perhaps I should take the sidesaddle putter out of the closet again.  8)

BrisVegas
21st September 2005, 07:32 AM
And Tezza is in his own league.

How would we know, there's no golflink in his sig.... :wink:

AndyP
21st September 2005, 07:49 AM
And Tezza is in his own league.

How would we know, there's no golflink in his sig....  :wink:
Aaaaaahhhh, but I know. ;)

terryand
21st September 2005, 08:46 AM
And Tezza is in his own league.

How would we know, there's no golflink in his sig....  :wink:
Aaaaaahhhh, but I know.  ;)

Sneaky golflink nazi :smt011

Altough I do believe that my leaque did happen to kick your leaque's butt all around bribie :-k

Terry.

Grunt
21st September 2005, 12:38 PM
Slowly going backwards :cry:

Am trying my hardest to stop the slow bleed but nothing is working, just cant play 18 holes at the moment. Really inconsistent at the moment, 5 holes off about 10, followed by a couple off 3 then a consistent few holes off 18 with a couple of blowout holes off 50+ to totally stuff the round up and finish with between 36 & 25 points depending on the capitulation.

BrisWesty
21st September 2005, 05:45 PM
Can I play too?

hcp at Reduction
24/10/04 16.8
14/03/05 15.9 5.3%
24/04/05 16.0 4.7%
25/05/05 15.1 10.1%
08/07/05 15.1 10.1%
20/09/05 14.5 13.7%

Golf link no 4130402024

Mark

Flowergirl
21st September 2005, 06:58 PM
Can I play too?

hcp at                Reduction
24/10/04  16.8
14/03/05  15.9   5.3%
24/04/05  16.0   4.7%
25/05/05  15.1   10.1%
08/07/05  15.1   10.1%
20/09/05  14.5   13.7%

Golf link no 4130402024

Mark

Nope..............you're doing too well. :twisted: :wink:

BrisWesty
21st September 2005, 08:37 PM
So how many recorded rounds do we each have on Golflink? I've got 21 since 1/11/04 to now. So given I've dropped by 2.3 in that time, that would translate to an average of about 0.1 hcp improvement per round (supposedly). Helps that 1.2 came off the first week in November though!

AndyP
13th October 2005, 11:28 AM
Plenty of movement in the top 10, but no 1 is rock solid.

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/3207/improvement9xb.jpg

Trung
13th October 2005, 11:35 AM
show us the full list AP...

AndyP
13th October 2005, 11:43 AM
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8995/improvement4qa.jpg

markTHEblake
13th October 2005, 12:25 PM
mate he is setting himself up for the champs, he will be on 9 by then.

terryand
13th October 2005, 03:04 PM
Jeez I wonder how AP ca get my handicap seeing as its not in my sig :smt017 I smell a rat :smt011

Terry.

Trung
14th October 2005, 08:26 AM
but no 1 is rock solid.

:smt023


ps... will send your Ogio on Monday.. Please advise address via PM..

Cheers.. :D

Grunt
14th October 2005, 08:16 PM
Have I got to the end of the year to knock off Trung?Or is the year ending with the Championships? I am going at this title hard in the next few months. If I get to my goal of 18, the improvement is 34.54%. So Trung has not got it locked up yet :wink: If I can't get there this year next year is mine :lol:

AndyP
14th October 2005, 10:27 PM
Have I got to the end of the year to knock off Trung?Or is the year ending with the Championships? I am going at this title hard in the next few months. If I get to my goal of 18, the improvement is 34.54%. So Trung has not got it locked up yet :wink: If I can't get there this year next year is mine :lol:
The latter. Year ends at the Champs.
The title doesn't necessarily go to the best % improvement either, but good luck.

Trung
15th October 2005, 04:35 PM
just the bragging rights :lol:

Courty
17th October 2005, 11:04 PM
Gazgolf & Kev better watch out. I'm close to a couple of even par rounds or better. That might shake things up a bit. I don't think Trung's in any danger though. :?

Virgal_Tracy
27th October 2005, 11:24 AM
My turn to post an "all time low H'cap" post. Played 2 under h'cap at Macarthur Grange and lost .6 to all time low 18.5

Now just need one more good round and I have achieved my goal of being off 18. After that it might be time to get some lessons so that I can get rid of the Gay Fade and start hitting a few more fairways.

Grunt
27th October 2005, 04:23 PM
.4 off this week I am chasing you all down!!

Grunt
29th October 2005, 04:49 AM
2.8 off handicap after yesterdays result :lol: Now off a lowest ever of 21.9 \:D/ I might just still make the 18 target yet [-o<

Jarro
29th October 2005, 05:25 AM
2.8 off handicap after yesterdays result :lol: Now off a lowest ever of 21.9 \:D/   I might just still make the 18 target yet [-o<

nice work Grant, heading in the right direction mate 8)

Virgal_Tracy
31st October 2005, 07:38 AM
Great round Grant. Those 2 shots on the par 3's are about to become a thing of the past.

Awesome scoring. I haven't got to the What did you shoot thread but I hope there is a detailed run down of the round. 44 pts. Go you good thing.

peter_rs
31st October 2005, 08:31 AM
ok after shazza 41 pts on sat she is down to a all time low of 19.9 :wink:


Kee, Alo & I are in trouble I fear. :lol:

AndyP
31st October 2005, 01:37 PM
The Top 20:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5228/improvement3wk.jpg

The Big Movers:
Grunt 17 -> 6
Shaz 19 -> 8
Caz  6 -> 11
Fishman 31 -> 19

Mike might have moved up, but I don't know what his new handicap is.

AndyP
31st October 2005, 01:40 PM
The Rest:

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/7563/improvement8ap.jpg

Grunt
6th November 2005, 04:24 PM
Another .4 off this week 21.5 now  :lol:

Quick calculation takes me to 21.8% improvement, I am on the way up.

Trung
14th November 2005, 08:36 AM
AP..... Can we get an update please?

Courty...I see your signature, I have only one comp round left for the year. I should make use of it.. 8)

Courty
14th November 2005, 08:45 AM
A quick look around reveals the following:

Trung: 35%
Gazgolf: 26%
Courty: 30%
Onewood: 26%
Mike: ???

Btw, I have at least 4 comp rounds left to play before the Champs. :twisted:

So there's another 0.4 on my handicap. :roll:

AndyP
14th November 2005, 09:19 AM
A quick look around reveals the following:

Trung: 35%
Gazgolf: 26%
Courty: 30%
Onewood: 26%
Mike: ???

I'm sure Grunt will be happy to sneak up and pass the both of you. As far as Jono's method of ranking goes he has.

AndyP
14th November 2005, 11:31 AM
The Top 20:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8274/improvement9cn.jpg

Grunt
14th November 2005, 11:58 AM
When is the Final Date for the standings to lock? I think I have not got any improvements left in the bank.

AndyP
14th November 2005, 12:12 PM
When is the Final Date for the standings to lock? I think I have not got any improvements left in the bank.
November 27. The date of The Champs.

Trung
14th November 2005, 12:35 PM
somethings wrong with Jono's method.... maybe he can explain it to all of us.. :lol:

Grunt
14th November 2005, 12:46 PM
Nah mate jono has got it perfect :D

Virgal_Tracy
14th November 2005, 12:51 PM
Trung,

Put personal glory aside. jono's method has 3 NSWelshmen in the top 5, INCLUDING THE TOP 2. The only category that we are that dominant.

Grunt
14th November 2005, 01:05 PM
I just might be able to improve it a bit more, just looked at my upcoming roster and I have 3 or 4 free days to play, might even squeeze one in tomorrow :wink:

Grunt
14th November 2005, 07:38 PM
Can I ask for a ruling?
Which method are we going to use for this? It would be a real bummer that going off one calculation I win but the other I don't. If Jono's calculations are not being used, delete them.
I don't want to know that I could have been the most improved if the calculations were different to what was set earlier in the year.
As much as it would be good to be #1 improver we have to have the same rules all year and not change them half way through the year. If everyone agrees that jono's method is better start it next next year. If not so be it.

markTHEblake
14th November 2005, 08:07 PM
excuse me anyone if I have spoken out of turn. dont want to upset anybody.  :oops:

Grunt, last year we did not use any of the methods shown above to decide the winner, although we used method #1 as a rough guide to identify the main contenders, and then we voted on a winner.

I cant remember if the winner was the golfer with the best improved percentage or not.  But Mandy had improved in so many other areas as well, like golf knowledge, number of drivers purchased, rules - heck she was even on the committee at her club.  How could anyone beat that?

Andyp has taken all this on board this year himself and he hasnt actually said how the winner will be decided (i think).

So dont worry about getting hungup on Andyp's method or Jono's method cos neither may indicate who really wins.

Personally, if I was asked i would be voting for someone who is not number 1 in either ranking method, thats nothing against you or trung but i beleive there is someone out there that has improved much much more.

I'll give you an example why the Methods above are not conclusive enough. Now if I started this year at 6.3 (my peak handicap this year) and finished it at 3.5 (my lowest handicap ever) and consider my average handicap for the last 15 years or so is about 4.5,  would you say that my 44% handicap improvment this year is deserving of "Most Improved"?

In that example I'd certainly be embarrassed to win the thing if it was presented to me over what some of you blokes have done this year.

Stats are meaningfull but they are not conclusive!

Grunt
14th November 2005, 08:21 PM
Ok, I now know. I thought it was a purely stat thing. Best of luck to who ever gets it then. I know if i reach my goal of 18 by the end of the year I have had a good year. :lol:
I just have to disregard the silly bet I had with mates that I would be off less than them by the end of the year (I have to get to 15). :oops:

Trung
14th November 2005, 08:52 PM
Shud up Blakey.... It's nice to see my name on top of this leaderboard.

Bragging rights = Yes
Give a toss about the title = NO

AndyP
14th November 2005, 11:20 PM
The result of these methods does not necessarily determine who is awarded the most improved golfer, as Blakey has discussed before.
.
It's just a snapshot of how we are all going.

The title doesn't necessarily go to the best % improvement

Fishman Dan
15th November 2005, 06:34 AM
I'm 15.8 (was 15.7).

Not sure how/why i lost the extra .3, but it was all in the DQ and subsequent card screw-up.

Trung
18th November 2005, 08:54 AM
:shock:

Trung
9.1 -> 6.0 34.0659%

Courty
9.7 -> 6.4 34.0206%

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Jarro
18th November 2005, 09:40 AM
:shock:

Trung
9.1 -> 6.0 34.0659%

Courty
9.7 -> 6.4 34.0206%

:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

you might be in strife Trungie ..... Courty has a few more comp rounds lined up before the end of the year :wink:

Courty
18th November 2005, 09:45 AM
you might be in strife Trungie ..... Courty has a few more comp rounds lined up before the end of the year  :wink:

What are you, my booking agent? :wink: :P

Trung
18th November 2005, 10:00 AM
Jarro, Courty

I have 1 comp round left. 8)

AndyP
18th November 2005, 10:16 AM
you might be in strife Trungie ..... Courty has a few more comp rounds lined up before the end of the year  :wink:

What are you, my booking agent?  :wink:  :P
Courty, if Trung goes out 0.1 with his one comp round, shut up shop for the rest of the season and only play social rounds.

Courty
18th November 2005, 10:19 AM
Courty, if Trung goes out 0.1 with his one comp round, shut up shop for the rest of the season and only play social rounds.

WHat? Are you suggesting I cheat?  :shock:

I'd rather play & lose, then sit out & win. Besides, 2 of my remaining rounds are 4BBB  :wink:

Trung
18th November 2005, 10:31 AM
Courty, if Trung goes out 0.1 with his one comp round, shut up shop for the rest of the season and only play social rounds.

WHat? Are you suggesting I cheat?  :shock:

I'd rather play & lose, then sit out & win. Besides, 2 of my remaining rounds are 4BBB  :wink:

so, how many single comp round do you have left? 1? 8)

bring it on... 8)

Courty
18th November 2005, 10:50 AM
I just checked the Event Calendar (http://www.cairnsgolfclub.com.au/memberscalendar.html). It appears I was mistaken. There is only 1 4BBB round (tomorrow) and 2 individual stableford events.
I also noticed that the round on Nov 26 is the final of the Qantas Stableford event. They get your best 4 stableford scores from the nominated Qantas round each month, and the winner at the end of the year gets return airfares to Brisbane I think. I'm currently 2pts behind the leader in equal 4th place.

Courty
19th November 2005, 04:45 PM
See here (http://ozgolf.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=66046&highlight=#66046) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Courty
24th November 2005, 10:50 PM
The Top 20:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8274/improvement9cn.jpg

Update:

Courty 9.7 -> 5.4 = 44.4% (approx.) :shock:

markTHEblake
24th November 2005, 11:59 PM
This most improved event is a farce. I think most consistent handicap would be better - min 50 games though.

Trung
25th November 2005, 06:19 AM
great work Courty :D

Courty
25th November 2005, 08:07 AM
This most improved event is a farce.  I think most consistent handicap would be better - min 50 games though.

Bit late to move the goalposts, Blakey. Are you just jealous 'cos your name doesn't feature in the top 20? :wink:

AndyP
25th November 2005, 09:03 AM
There will be a poll next week to determine the winner of the most improved award.

Fishman Dan
25th November 2005, 05:09 PM
There will be a poll next week to determine the winner of the most improved award.

So why 52 weeks of stats if we're just going to vote?

markTHEblake
25th November 2005, 05:36 PM
This most improved event is a farce.  I think most consistent handicap would be better - min 50 games though.

Bit late to move the goalposts, Blakey. Are you just jealous 'cos your name doesn't feature in the top 20?  :wink:

the events a stupid idea anyway, who was that clown that thought of it?

AndyP
25th November 2005, 05:48 PM
There will be a poll next week to determine the winner of the most improved award.

So why 52 weeks of stats if we're just going to vote?
The stat is not accurate on who is the most improved, but gives us an idea on who has improved significantly. So now we can run the poll on just a few people.

This has all been discussed before anyway.

mike
26th November 2005, 11:32 PM
Update:

Courty   9.7 -> 5.4 = 44.4% (approx.)  :shock:

:shock:

Holy s**t Courty , you're a machine !!

Courty should win this most improved thing ( even if some people do think it's a crap idea )

Should've won it last year too. Sorry Amanda. :D

Fishman Dan
27th November 2005, 07:41 AM
Courty should win this most improved thing ( even if some people do think it's a crap idea )

Should've won it last year too. Sorry Amanda. :D

:smt023

amanda
28th November 2005, 08:00 AM
No worries Mike :)

markTHEblake
28th November 2005, 08:40 AM
Should've won it last year too. Sorry Amanda. :D

last year a lot of courty's improvement was outside the period that we were looking at. thats why he didnt win it

AndyP
30th November 2005, 01:18 PM
There's still one thing left to award this year, and it's the Most Improved.

Here are the top 5 as far as the stats go, and I wouldn't think that any others are worth considering for the award.

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/7590/improvement3um.jpg

Alright people, start posting your thoughts on who should win this year's most improved, remembering that the stats don't tell the whole story. For example, you may take into consideration the way they went about their improvement, or they may have continued on from previous improvement, or they may have only got back to an old handicap and shouldn't be considered.

Jarro
30th November 2005, 01:29 PM
has to be Courty ..... he's been on fire for ages now, hardly having any bad rounds .... Trung has done a wonderful job in getting down to 6 .... but i think Courty should get the money.

BrisVegas
30th November 2005, 01:34 PM
All these ozgolfers deserve praise for improving their games dramatically this past year. As someone who's handicap has drifted the other way, I'm envious of your dedication and achievements.

I think Courty deserves to win as he has halved his already pretty decent hcap from 10 to 5. :shock:

That's not to diminish the achievements of the others. Shazza has payed great golf this year (despite playing with Pete! :wink: :lol: ) and has dropped an amazing 6 shots. I can't see her improvement slowing down much. I'd back her to drop that many again this year.

Grunt I haven't met, but the sydney guys are raving about how well you're playing. Keep it up mate.

Trung and gazgolf1 were already good golfers and have done very well to shave 3 & 2 strokes respectively.

Congratulations all of you. 8)

Jono
30th November 2005, 01:54 PM
I second what Vegas said.  All the above mentioned players have done very well.  Courty should probably get the award this year, but there's really nothing separating the 5.  8)

Two players I've played with a few times, Trung and Grunt, have definitely stepped up a gear since last year. Trung was a shaky 9 marker last year who relied on his good putting to save his rounds, but now he is a solid low marker who has control over all his shots. Very impressive driving/iron play in recent times. Grunt is in his rapid improvement phase, and I was most impressed with the way he managed his game last Friday in the rain.

Well done to all the mentioned players whoever ends up winning the title.

markTHEblake
30th November 2005, 10:36 PM
Courty is a shoe in regardless of the stats, becuase of the handicap he started the year on.

Unlike someone who has been stagnant on a handicap for a long time its easy for them to start improving again (hint get a lesson), but its much harder for someone to improve from a handicap they have just improved to because it obviously gets exponentially harder to reduce a handicap as you get lower.

Courty started the year on 8, but he only just got to 8, So even if he was 2nd or 3rd on the ladder, he gets my vote!

Trung
1st December 2005, 08:56 PM
My vote is for Courty. We had a scoring race and Courty won in the final minute. Brilliant stuff :D .

As for me, I'm happy with my current progress. My on-going goal is to give Jono 3 shots every I step on the tee with Jono.. Now I'm giving him 4 shots. Pfffffffffff....

My lowlight of the year was when I knew I needed a par or bogey on the 18th to get down to 4. I double bogeyed it. Talk about choking under pressure :oops: .

Start the ozgolf year at 9.1
Lowest point this year 4.6
Current 6.1

I'm very happy. :D

Fishman Dan
1st December 2005, 10:11 PM
I can't split 'em. They both deserve big raps. Trung got it down low, but he plays 2-3 times per week, so it's quick to blow out ;)

Well done all big improvers, especially Courty and Trung. :smt038

peter_rs
2nd December 2005, 08:29 AM
Ok I'm going to vote SHAZZA :shock:

You could have guessed it :wink: , but there is a reason. She did not play any golf from March to July and only a little before and after that with the wrist operation she had. so to come back from that lay off and the nature of the layoff (hard to play golf without a wrist) it is amazing to me she has dropped 6 shots in the last couple of months.

But Way to go all the top 5, you have all done well :D

Fishman Dan
4th December 2005, 08:13 AM
That wouldn't have been the reason i would have guessed.... :?

Courty
12th December 2005, 01:34 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys. No surprises for guessing my vote, but of course, I can't choose myself. :roll: :wink:
I would have to go with Shazza. She has taken the pressure of competing with Peter_RS and flourished beautifully...

AndyP
12th December 2005, 04:07 PM
It's pretty clear cut.

Courty is the OZgolf Most Improved Player of the Year for 2005.

Congratulations on a significant improvement to your game and handicap, which I'm sure is enough reward for the year.  However, a snazzy OZgolf cap and Most Improved medal is all yours too.

Well done to everyone who feels they have improved this year, and to those who haven't, you have set yourself up nicely for next year.

Fishman Dan
12th December 2005, 04:39 PM
Keep up the good work mate :smt023












That's Courty... not you AP, even Jarro could do your job :?

terryand
12th December 2005, 04:42 PM
I was going to say AP,pass the job onto Fishy and see how he goes with it.But then I thought about it,not a good idea.after about a week there would only be about 4 people left after he banned us all :?

Terry.

Fishman Dan
12th December 2005, 07:14 PM
Tez - as a network admin, i fight these tendencies all day ;) It might just be the release i need :twisted:

Grunt
12th December 2005, 08:34 PM
Congrats Courty from a fellow improver, hopefully I can keep it up and get solidly into B grade in the next 12 months.

Onewood
13th December 2005, 08:16 PM
Good to see someone North of the river get's to play golf :roll:

Well done Big Fella 8) :P

AndyP
13th December 2005, 08:23 PM
Which river would that be, Kev?

Onewood
13th December 2005, 08:26 PM
The Brisbane< I think they call it :wink:

Virgal_Tracy
14th December 2005, 02:32 PM
Congrats Courty.

Considering the improvement of the people that you have beaten to the title it is indeed well deserved.

Keep the improvement at this rate and you'll be off scratch very soon.

mike
14th December 2005, 09:14 PM
SPEECH ! SPEEEEEEEEECH !!

Courty
15th December 2005, 10:03 AM
SPEECH ! SPEEEEEEEEECH !!


Errrrm. I would like to thank God, my manager.... :roll:

Just kidding. I would like to thank all my fellow OZgolf members for making this possible, especially Trung who set the benchmark this year and for motivating me to get to where I did. If it wasn't for my last-second spurt of good golf, there are 3 or 4 people who could have won it.

Now that I am on injury waivers, maybe my game will slip backwards to a point where I can challenge for a consecutive title next year. :twisted: :wink:

I am hoping next year will finally be the year when I get to the Champs where everyone can witness my Most-Improved form. :?

Courty
22nd December 2005, 09:09 PM
Hi guys, just though I would mention that I got my name in the Cairns GC Annual Report.  :shock:

In the Captains Report for the year I was named as 'Achiever of the Year' for the significant reduction in handicap. Just gotta remember to slip him a $20  :wink: He would be a good judge too, as he was the Pennants Captain when I was still in B-Grade and has witnessed the improvement first-hand (and lost a few dollars against me as well). 8)

AndyP
23rd December 2005, 12:16 AM
Courty, make sure you post a picture of you with your new hat and medal (it's in the mail).

Jarro
23rd December 2005, 06:41 AM
Courty, make sure you post a picture of you with your new hat and medal (it's in the mail).

.. and make sure it's thumbnail size, we don't wanna scare away any potential new members :shock: :lol:

terryand
23rd December 2005, 06:43 AM
Courty, make sure you post a picture of you with your new hat and medal (it's in the mail).

.. and make sure it's thumbnail size, we don't wanna scare away any potential new members  :shock:  :lol:

yeah the site is still recovering from the Shrek photo :?

Terry.

Courty
23rd December 2005, 08:04 AM
Courty, make sure you post a picture of you with your new hat and medal (it's in the mail).

Will do AndyP, as soon as it arrives. 8)

Courty
24th December 2005, 05:27 PM
Courty, make sure you post a picture of you with your new hat and medal (it's in the mail).

I got the hat & medal yesterday arve. Thanks very much AndyP, Goughy & clikchic. I love the hat. It reminds me of Tiger stripes. Unfortunately, I didn't play like Tiger when I christened the hat today. I will get a pic done when I get my camera back (my sister-in-law is borrowing it until her new one arrives).

The medal is going straight to the pool room. :wink:

AndyP
5th January 2006, 02:40 PM
I thought it was a pretty spiffy hat too.

So....where's that pic?

Courty
5th January 2006, 02:44 PM
I will get a pic done when I get my camera back (my sister-in-law is borrowing it until her new one arrives).


So....where's that pic?

I haven't forgotten. I'm still waiting to get my camera back. :roll:

AndyP
5th January 2006, 02:59 PM
Bloody in-laws.