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markTHEblake
7th March 2005, 11:07 PM
Well seeings everyone is excited about this,  here we go.

Ozgolf Matchplay Rules.

updates in Bold 18/05/05

1.  Major event:  Regions.   The event will be played out in different regions, eg Sydney, SEQ, and so on.   If any area can come up with the numbers (ie 8)  then go ahead and join in.

2.  Minor Event: National Titles.  The winner of the largest region has the right to host a national title against other finalists at time and place of his/her reasonable choosing, or whatever, this is not the main event.

3. Individuals will arrange their own matches at a mutually agreed course.  Its expected No golfer will insist on playing at their own club (see #4: appeal).  In the interests of camaraderie try and stick to official Ozgolf days.

4.  There will be a set date for each round of matches to be played.  If a match is not played both competitors are disqualified, unless one forfeits.  A player may appeal this to the committee should he think the opponent did not make fair effort to arrange a match.
Approx 1 to 2 months will be given to arrange a match, about 12 months for the whole event.

After round 1,  any player who withdraws from the event, his previous opponent takes his place - time permitting.

5.  Full AGU Handicap as at the date of the match applies, verifiable by golf link or other official source.    AGU matchplay index to be used, download here  www.theblake.net/ftp/MatchplayIndex.pdf

Note: The index applies in accordance with the order that your match plays the holes.  The 1st hole on the matchplay index is your First hole, even if you tee of the 10th.  See explanatory notes and index this page.

6. The matches will be seeded as per the POTY money list as at date of the draw. If golfers are not on the money list then seeded according to number of posts to forum, then by random.

7. Matches halved at the 18th hole to be played sudden death.  Where this is not feasable, work something out or replay another day.

8. Cost is $2 per player per match except the final.   1st, 2nd and 3rd will receive a winners check of 60%, 30% and 10% respectively.  Money to be deposited to a bank account somewhere.

9. POTY money:

paid to loser at end of round.
QLd

Round 1: ....$2000
Round 2: ....$4000
Qtr: ...........$8000
Semi : .......$16000
Final : ........$32000 & Winner $64000

NSW

Round 1: ....$2000
Qtr: ...........$4000
Semi: ........$8000
Final : ........$16000 & Winner $32000

Note: if matches are played in conjunction with other Ozgolf days, the matchplay money will be offset against the other money,  ie the higher amount only will be paid.

10. Nominations to be received by the 20/3/05,  draw will be released by 31/3/05.  Please nominate your freinds if you know that they will want to play, and we can see if we can kick it off earlier.

11. Eligibility,  Ozgolf members and their partners/families. No ring ins.

12. Numbers in each pool should be limited to 4,8, 16, 32 etc.  To fit as many in as we can, there will either be a small number of byes in the first round, or a small number of reserves.  eg if there are 14 players, there will be two byes,  if 19 players there will be 3 reserves.

14. Sponsorship welcome.  

15. Suggestions please

amanda
8th March 2005, 06:14 AM
Sounds great! I have a strange question - what if the par for the mens & ladies courses are different? How do we work out who gets what shots?

Speirsy11
8th March 2005, 06:39 AM
Sounds great! I have a strange question - what if the par for the mens & ladies courses are different? How do we work out who gets what shots?

YOu play the hole, and whatever you score is, less your strokes for that hole is your score. Lower score wins, no matter what the relation to par is.

For example, if you have a par 5 that is a 4 for the men, and you make 8, less 2 for Hcp, you have 6. If I make 5 less zero for Hcp, I still win cause my score is lower.

Speirsy

3oneday
8th March 2005, 06:44 AM
For example, if you have a par 5 that is a 4 for the men, and you make 8, less 2 for Hcp, you have 6. If I make 5 less zero for Hcp, I still win cause my score is lower.Speirsy
I dunno, you are both 1 over for the hole, with that theory Amanda, being a female, is immediately at a disadvantage. I would say with your example the hole was halved, unless the "Match Play" index indicated only 1 shot for Amanda from you there. It can't expected that if the par for a lady is 74, that she has to now play to 72....

To be fair, anyway.

Pete

markTHEblake
8th March 2005, 07:01 AM
Good question Mandy.

What Speirsy said.  Lowest score wins the hole.   Its not a stableford,  your not using the stroke index and scores are not compared to par.  
(chances are if its a par 5 for women and par 4 for men, the stroke index for women is high and the mens is low, so the perceived inequity will be the same)

If this appears to be too unfair to anyone then dont play a course that has this instance.

The matchplay Index as described by the AGU.
"This method provides for a fairly even distribution throughout the round. It also disregards hole difficulties, is fair to players on all handicap levels and has proved satisfactory in use"

Print out the index from here: www.theblake.net/ftp/MatchplayIndex.pdf

Hole ... Index
1____18
2____8
3____12
4____3
5____14
6____6
7____10
8____1
9____16
10___5
11___11
12___2
13___15
14___7
15___13
16___4
17___17
18___9

If the golfer A is on handicap 6 and B is on 16,  then the differential is 10.   Golfer B receives a stroke on the holes that are indexed 1 to 10.
ie Hole nos 2,4,6.... etc).

If your match hits off the 10th tee,  the normal index applies in the order that YOU play the holes, not the sign on the side of the tee.

Ozgolf Matchplay Index for matches starting on the 10th tee.
Hole ... Index
10__18
11___8
12__12
13___3
14__14
15___6
16__10
17___1
18__16
1___5
2___11
3___2
4___15
5___7
6___13
7___4
8___17
9___9

If your group has a playoff,  the matchplay index still applies as stated.  If you tee off a different hole, course, driving range,  whatever.... the first hole you play is regarded as Hole #1 on the Standard Matchplay Index

amanda
8th March 2005, 07:05 AM
Cool - thanks guys :D

Onewood
8th March 2005, 08:01 AM
flowergirl wrote,

Gee thanks guys for including VICTORIA in this event.

Victoria

1. Flowergirl
2.
3.
4.

Come on down Bruce!!!

Jarro
8th March 2005, 08:13 AM
Ben's from Melbourne ... i'm sure he'd be keen to participate :wink:

you can take him FG, no probs :lol:

sign-up folks ... this should be fun :D

Kee
8th March 2005, 08:27 AM
Ok, I'll sign up. I'll play only if I can continue and finish the 18 holes :P .

SeQLD

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee

Grunt
8th March 2005, 08:32 AM
Ok count me in for Sydney comp.

I am still having nightmares after my last matchplay comp, having to sink eagle putts to halve holes, shooting 10 under your handicap and still getting beat 2 & 1 ;but as they say you have to get back on the horse.

peter_rs
8th March 2005, 08:35 AM
SeQLD

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)

Bruce
8th March 2005, 08:44 AM
VICTORIA

1. Flowergirl
2. Bruce
3.
4.


I'll get into Ben's ear when I pick up my new 3W.

We need to do some Mexican recruiting.

Flowergirl
8th March 2005, 08:59 AM
VICTORIA

1. Flowergirl
2. Bruce
3.John ( Flowergirls husband - who won;t get any loving' if he beats me!!)
4.


Good on ya Bruce........yep....we better work on Ben.

Virgal_Tracy
8th March 2005, 01:14 PM
Yeah, count me in. Can't wait to see the look on the low handicappers faces when they come up against us high h'cappers and are giving a shot (possibly 2) away on each hole.

I know, I know you must get used to it but it certainly is easier to jag a couple of good holes and use the shots and then play to handicap. Anyway looking forward to it.

Sydney

1 Speirsy
2 Jono
3 Amanda
4 TS
5 Trung
6 Grunt
7 Virgal
8

macleod
8th March 2005, 03:33 PM
1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod (emmy hcap will be online in time for the draw)

990B Luva
8th March 2005, 04:11 PM
1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod (emmy hcap will be online in time for the draw)
14 990B Luva

markTHEblake
11th March 2005, 10:18 AM
cmon you slack lot, Ok, I'll put your names in didnt i mention that participation is compulsory.

The Qld Pool.

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 Anyone from Toowoomba
29 Mr Keza_G
30 Griz
31
32

Only need two more?

AndyP
11th March 2005, 10:21 AM
cmon you slack lot, Ok, I'll put your names in didnt i mention that participation is compulsory.
:-"

Davemason
11th March 2005, 01:05 PM
Is this only for the SE QLD guys does it come up as far as coral cove ?
But I'll travel for a match play comp
I'm in if the days of play work in with my life plan at the moment for the weekends

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 Anyone from Toowoomba
29 Mr Keza_G
30 Griz
31 Davemason
32

Speirsy11
11th March 2005, 02:23 PM
Is this only for the SE QLD guys does it come up as far as coral cove ?
But I'll travel for a match play comp
I'm in if the days of play work in with my life plan at the moment for the weekends

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 Anyone from Toowoomba
29 Mr Keza_G
30 Griz
31 Davemason
32

:o

We'd better get this going right quick......with this many players, it might take 18 months to finish.......

markTHEblake
11th March 2005, 03:10 PM
6-8 weeks for each round. be finished by november. if someone cant organise a game of golf within an 8 week window, there is no hope for them.

Flowergirl
11th March 2005, 03:16 PM
cmon you slack lot, Ok, I'll put your names in didnt i mention that participation is compulsory.
:-"

I think you better whistle louder AndyP.

Jarro
11th March 2005, 03:31 PM
yeah lets get this show on the road :!:

AndyP
11th March 2005, 03:34 PM
Well...when is the starting date ?
Not until after the 20th, coz that is the end date for registration.

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 Anyone from Toowoomba
29 Mr Keza_G
30 Griz
31 Davemason
32 AndyP

Better put my name down, just in case you cut it off at 32, even though you have volunteered every person and their dog (well nearly every person).


I think you better whistle louder AndyP.
Might be selective reading on Blakey's part, FG.

Trung
11th March 2005, 03:34 PM
yeah lets get this show on the road :!:

I second that.. :P

AndyP
11th March 2005, 03:38 PM
Blakey, what is the rules concerning handicaps that adjust thoughout the year? Will people be playing off the handicap they have at the time of the match? I would assume so.

Jarro
11th March 2005, 03:48 PM
Will people be playing off the handicap they have at the time of the match? I would assume so.

I think that goes without saying :roll:

AndyP
11th March 2005, 04:10 PM
Ok 32 starters....perfect number....close the books now !
You can play against no. 28 then, g69.


28 Anyone from Toowoomba

markTHEblake
11th March 2005, 06:34 PM
Hold your horses chaps.

Just wait a while to see if anyone else wants to join in or pull out. Its doubtfull that someone from toowoomba will turn up, i donno if Onewood wants Threewood to play, it would have to be at the pitch and putt if he does.

Andylo might not make it back through customs, with 25 new drivers in his suitcase

Jarro will have a hair appointment, someone will be having babies, Gaz will be waiting for a courier to arrive, and Nudgee sold all his clubs. Before you know it, we will be down a few numbers.

I think we still have Brooky17, CazandPaul and PaulandCaz at least.

and yes i did overlook andyp. I never considered for a moment that one of the most prolific dribblers on the forum (and in this thread) would not have put his own name on the list.

Keza, pls confirm with your old man and roc that they would like to play.

CobraSS
11th March 2005, 06:55 PM
1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 CobraSS
29 Mr Keza_G
30 Griz
31 Davemason
32 AndyP

markTHEblake
11th March 2005, 08:25 PM
you clown, I already said on the first page when it starts.

Onewood
11th March 2005, 09:04 PM
you clown, I already said on the first page when it starts.

Bring the date forward.......leave twowood and threewood out along with number 28.....if we do the draw and leave these spot's as a bye for 2 weeks allowing anyone to join the chance to do so....this will still leave 6 weeks to organise a game :idea:

I will take one of the draw spots if you like....I can still organise a game in 6 weeks......and it would be the first time I ever made it to the second round in matchplay :D

If the ones we have nominated wish not to participate, than the one's that have nominated in this thread go through to the next round.

Do the same thing for NSW, put them all in and see what happens, the VIC's the same and last but not least Mau and the Kid :D lets not forget Courty and Mike the winner to come to the champs and play off (All exspences not PAID) :wink:

Let's get this show on the road

If we do bring this foreward, lets do the right thing and check out the groups in the wynum thread. I know we said seeded :roll: so now all that happens is we seed each group first....We don't want to see groups changing because of this [-X

Keza_G
11th March 2005, 09:17 PM
Blakey, as requested.....

1 MTB
2 G69
3 Iain
4 Jarro
5 onewood
6 davidp
7 Tezza
8 Keza (Confirmed)
9 damoocow
10 Kee
11 Peter_rs_644
12 Shazza(Peter_rs partner)
13 MacLeod
14 990B Luva
15. Brisvegas
16. Nudgee
17 Gazgolf.
18 Senecio
19 Drunken
20 Eags
21 Shavey
22 Andylo
23 Roc (Confirmed)
24 Choppa
25 Damoocow
26 Twowood
27 Threewood
28 CobraSS
29 Mr Keza_G (Scotty_G Confirmed)
30 Griz
31 Davemason
32 AndyP

markTHEblake
11th March 2005, 11:36 PM
Here is the Qld Pool in seeded order. You can work out who plays who from here, 1 v 32, 2 v 31 etc.

the 2nd number is ranking in POTY.

01 AndyP 01
02 Brisvegas 02
03 onewood 03
04 Eags 04
05 Iain 05
06 G69 06
07 Jarro 07
08 Shavey 09
09 damoocow 11
10 MacLeod 13
11 davidp 15
12 Nudgee 16
13 Choppa 18
14 Tezza 19
15 Gazgolf. 21
16 PaulandCaz 22
17 Andylo 24
18 990B Luva 25
19 MTB 26
20 Davemason 27
21 Senecio 28
22 Kee 32
23 Keza_G 33
24 Mr Keza_G 36
25 CobraSS 38
26 Peter_rs_644 39
27 CazandPaul 43
28 Brooky17 46
29 Drunken 69
30 Roc (Confirmed) 74
31 Griz 100
32 Shazza(Peter_rs partner) 100

Jarro
12th March 2005, 12:54 AM
nice work Elliot .

LET THE GAMES BEGIN 8) 8) 8)

Onewood
12th March 2005, 06:39 AM
If we do bring this foreward, lets do the right thing and check out the groups in the wynum thread. I know we said seeded :roll: so now all that happens is we seed each group first....We don't want to see groups changing because of this [-X

would'nt this be more sensible to get as many games out of the way early :?

seed the groups in the order of the money list, then do as you've stated from whats left over :idea:

AndyP
12th March 2005, 07:38 AM
and yes i did overlook andyp. I never considered for a moment that one of the most prolific dribblers on the forum (and in this thread) would not have put his own name on the list.
You know more than me then, because I seriously considered not playing and was planning on using up all the deadline. I play enough golf as it is, without having to try and organise another round.

And will stop changing threads for this.

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 12:06 AM
Surely we can fill the bottom two spots gentlemen?
onewood, why wont you let Matty or mitch play. we can rig the draw so mitch plays andyp and towels him up
Toowoomba guys c'mon.


01 AndyP 01
02 Brisvegas 02
03 onewood 03
04 Eags 04
05 Iain 05
06 G69 06
07 Jarro 07
08 Shavey 09
09 damoocow 11
10 MacLeod 13
11 davidp 15
12 Nudgee 16
13 Choppa 18
14 Tezza 19
15 Gazgolf. 21
16 Andylo 24
17 990B Luva 25
18 MTB 26
19 Davemason 27
20 Senecio 28
21 Kee 32
22 Keza_G 33
23 Mr Keza_G 36
24 CobraSS 38
25 Peter_rs_644 39
26 Brooky17 46
27 Drunken 69
28 Roc (Confirmed) 74
29 Griz 100
30 Shazza(Peter_rs partner) 100
31
32

AndyP
15th March 2005, 08:45 AM
Are all of the names on the above list confirmed?
Shavey? Senecio? Brooky17? Griz?

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 10:00 AM
Shavey will be alright, as for the other three, they all have mates here right? their mates need to chase them up.

Jarro
15th March 2005, 10:06 AM
isn't it up to you to contact your opponent to see if

1: they are going to play you.

2: when and where they are going to play you.

if they don't/can't play you, they'll tell you.. then you win by default.

AndyP
15th March 2005, 10:19 AM
if they don't/can't play you, they'll tell you.. then you win by default.
Yeah, but you shouldn't win by default if the person had no intention of taking part in this comp in the first place.

Jarro
15th March 2005, 11:06 AM
if they don't/can't play you, they'll tell you.. then you win by default.
Yeah, but you shouldn't win by default if the person had no intention of taking part in this comp in the first place.

... well i thought it had to be this way, so as to avoid another redraw .. which would in turn add to the delays we will no doubt have :roll:

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 11:51 AM
What delays? the only thing that will cause delays is discussion, and you all know that (from past experience). The Golfer69 policy applies here.

I already said we will do the draw on the 20th march, 1st round to be played by 31st May

I did the draw earlier becuase of 'discussion' and look what happened, its got two holes in it. no more 'discussion' - sticking with Plan A.

As far is i can tell, the following people might not know about it yet.

20 Senecio 28
21 Kee 32
26 Brooky17 46
29 Griz 100

we dont want to have any more no shows. So instead of another dribblefest that amounts to nothing. how about the mates of these guys get on the email, phone or whatever and confirm them.

and then find two more punters so we have a perfect draw. Which will be redone in 5 days. If we dont get two more players you can easily see who plays who from the revised list above. ie 1 v 32, 2 v 31 .....16 v 17.

BrisVegas
15th March 2005, 12:20 PM
cmon you slack lot, Ok, I'll put your names in didnt i mention that participation is compulsory.

The Qld Pool.

15. Brisvegas



Compulsory? Did I miss something? I never nominated for this. No interest, no time, no thanks. :roll: Count me out.

Congratulations Griz on your round 1 win. :wink:

I'll let Brooky17 know that his compulsory attendance is required and he'll most likely pull out as well.

AndyP
15th March 2005, 12:22 PM
cmon you slack lot, Ok, I'll put your names in didnt i mention that participation is compulsory.

The Qld Pool.

15. Brisvegas



Compulsory? Did I miss something? I never nominated for this. No interest, no time, no thanks. :roll:

Congratulations Griz on your round 1 win. :wink:
Did you read the clause on a $20,000 POTY penalty for not participating?






I'm not joking, he's actually got it in the rules.

BrisVegas
15th March 2005, 12:25 PM
Did you read the clause on a $20,000 POTY penalty for not participating?






I'm not joking, he's actually got it in the rules.
No I didn't, but nothing would surprise me. This "fun, social" forum is getting out of control.

Fishman Dan
15th March 2005, 12:29 PM
No I didn't, but nothing would surprise me. This "fun, social" forum is getting out of control.

That's enough from you. This outburst isn't warranted. You will have fun, and you will be social at the next outing.

Moderator?? I think there's some dissent in the ranks. Act now please!

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 12:42 PM
Compulsory? Did I miss something? I never nominated for this. No interest, no time, no thanks. :roll: Count me out.

I am really surprised, thought yuo would be keen to play in the odd ozgolf day. So you are not going to play in any ozgolf day in the next 2.5 months?

just said compulsory to get people off their bums instead of sitting back and waiting for something to happen. The $20k fine is a joke, to see if anyone would read it.


This "fun, social" forum is getting out of control.

Thats what we are doing here, organising some social fun for the forum,

but people in general are hard to organise, thats why some clear guidelines are needed to avoid arguements.

Fishman Dan
15th March 2005, 12:45 PM
....thats why some clear guidelines are needed to avoid arguements.

I think that's what we need more of here - this place is getting way too sterile! ;)

Kee
15th March 2005, 01:03 PM
As far is i can tell, the following people might not know about it yet.

20 Senecio 28
21 Kee 32
26 Brooky17 46
29 Griz 100


MTB, I know about it and Davidp has already contacted me about organising something between us. At the moment, we are going to play our match during the Woodford day.

BrisVegas
15th March 2005, 01:15 PM
Compulsory? Did I miss something? I never nominated for this. No interest, no time, no thanks. :roll: Count me out.

I am really surprised, thought yuo would be keen to play in the odd ozgolf day. So you are not going to play in any ozgolf day in the next 2.5 months?


After the Wynnum round, I probably won't be playing much for a few months. Hence the reason why I didn't nominate for this thing.

markTHEblake
15th March 2005, 01:24 PM
I probably won't be playing much for a few months

Well there you go, you only need to play once in a few months, thats less than much

and you could have the opportunity to say
"regrettably darling i cant lay turf/paint house/build fence today, i have been forced to play golf and i dont have a choice"

AndyP
31st March 2005, 02:54 PM
updates in Bold 29/3/05
Shouldn't you let people know when you change the rules?


After round 1, any player who withdraws from the event, his previous opponent takes his place - time permitting.
What about the highest seeded loser from the previous round instead?


8. Cost is $2 per player per match except the final. 1st, 2nd and 3rd will receive a winners check of 60%, 30% and 10% respectively. Money to be deposited to a bank account somewhere.
Do you have to pay for a bye?
Have those that have already played paid up?

You've got a lot of POTY cash on offer there, Blakey. You don't think it is too much?
When you play a match against someone, do you get money for playing the match, and taking part in an OZgolf day?

amanda
31st March 2005, 03:24 PM
OK - who is collecting the cashola? I'm happy to collect and hold onto the money for the NSW side of the draw.

markTHEblake
31st March 2005, 03:29 PM
- was discussed in another thread - nothing was changed - besides nobody reads it anyway.

- nah.

- no, no, i have been meaning to bring that up.

- thought about that for a long time, many different connotations. in the end its a huge event with 32 players, so No. Yes.

AndyP
31st March 2005, 03:42 PM
- was discussed in another thread - nothing was changed - besides nobody reads it anyway.
How about if I add the conditions/rules to the results/draw sticky, and drop this as a sticky? (One less sticky would be nice)
You can feed any updates to the conditions to me and I will edit the sticky.

BTW thanks for making me flick between my questions on the previous page and your answers.

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 11:44 AM
Why is the QLD winner awarded $64k and the NSW winner $32k??

Yet another way of rigging this "system" :roll:

Let's have some equality, yeah?

markTHEblake
11th April 2005, 11:48 AM
becuase NSW have half as many players, thats as equal as i could work it.

in a normal 32 player field, the winner would get $48000
for 16 players, winner would get $24000.

doesnt get any more complicated than that.

AndyP
11th April 2005, 11:49 AM
Why is the QLD winner awarded $64k and the NSW winner $32k??
Probably because it is a bigger field.
The same for every other OZgolf event, the more people the more money.
That said, maybe it should be $58K, as there is only 29 participants in Qld.

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 11:51 AM
becuase NSW have half as many players.

....and?

The winner of comp A deserves to win as much as the winner of comp B. Jiggle around the early rounds as much as you want, but semi's and finals are just as important - you still win a 'title'.

Why don't you call QLD's Round 1 a "qualifying" round. Therefore round "2" is the start of the real deal.

You know it makes sense ;)

Onewood
11th April 2005, 12:11 PM
becuase NSW have half as many players.

....and?

The winner of comp A deserves to win as much as the winner of comp B. Jiggle around the early rounds as much as you want, but semi's and finals are just as important - you still win a 'title'.

Why don't you call QLD's Round 1 a "qualifying" round. Therefore round "2" is the start of the real deal.

You know it makes sense ;)

Good point 8)

I'd be happy with that :smt023

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 12:38 PM
It's either that or make the final ONLY worth the same amount. Can't say that the QLD final will be any more / less tense for any competitor.

I thought it was a pretty wholesome idea - i guess that's why there hasn't been any other replies ;) 8)

markTHEblake
11th April 2005, 01:43 PM
nice try

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 02:07 PM
nice try

Not a great way of qualifying the current system.

Got anything else?

Onewood
11th April 2005, 03:21 PM
nice try

I still think its a fair request, :roll:

who is on the match committee anyway :smt021

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 03:28 PM
Kev - if i may edit your post?


who from NSW is on the match committee anyway :smt021

;) 8)

terryand
11th April 2005, 04:08 PM
It's either that or make the final ONLY worth the same amount. Can't say that the QLD final will be any more / less tense for any competitor.

I thought it was a pretty wholesome idea - i guess that's why there hasn't been any other replies ;) 8)

But the Qld winner (if not one of the top 3) would have won,one more match 8)

Terry.

markTHEblake
11th April 2005, 05:18 PM
who is on the match committee anyway :smt021

match committee for the Matchplay or for the POTY - thats two different and independant things !

Matchplay committee- whoever wants to is welcome. I do beleive Amanda has volunteered and Andyp goes without saying. Macleod is also putting something into this. So there you have 4 and thats a quorum.

POTY committee - the people that pay for the trophy are on this committee. Should anyone like to join the POTY committee please volunteer your donation, thanks!

The POTY committee decided that the money to be allocated to the Matchplay would be same as the normal pool. under the current method in a large field event, say 32, the 2nd and 4th place would get $31000 and $29000 respectively. Hardly adequate reward for going that one extra round in the matchplay.

Therefore the committee worked it out based on double money for each round, the end result was a bit more money for both qld and nsw.

If someone would like to research and post the breakdown for the World Matchplay Championship, i will adopt that method instead.

Fishman Dan
11th April 2005, 05:21 PM
Look - i agree with the more matches side of the story, but i think the winners cheque should be equal(ish?).

Don't say we're not as passionate - just look at Jono and Trung, and they're not even competing against each other :lol:

What about double-or-nothing on the State of Origin result?? :roll:

Onewood
12th April 2005, 07:52 AM
I was agreeing to the first round of the QLD matchplay being a Qualifying round, as there where 3 bye's anyway, therefore not really a full round of 32 :roll:

Now everything is evan QLD 16, NSW 16, Money the same :P 8)

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 08:18 AM
I was agreeing to the first round of the QLD matchplay being a Qualifying round, as there where 3 bye's anyway, therefore not really a full round of 32 :roll:

Now everything is evan QLD 16, NSW 16, Money the same :P 8)

:idea: So...... if one of the recipients of the BYE's goes through to win, they should (on Tez's logic) effectively only receive the same amount of dough that NSW draw receives.

That's fair?

Jarro
12th April 2005, 08:22 AM
what about the Victorians :?:

there's only a handful of them ... should the winner of that comp get the same amount of money as the winner of the NSW division :?

i think the prizemoney has to be relative to the size of the field :P

Onewood
12th April 2005, 08:42 AM
what about the Victorians :?:

there's only a handful of them ... should the winner of that comp get the same amount of money as the winner of the NSW division :?

i think the prizemoney has to be relative to the size of the field :P

Sorry Jarro I havent seen the Victorian draw :roll: so I cant relate to the size of that draw to what we are discussing here :wink:

I just thought due to the size of the fields we get, to the size of the fields in NSW it would be a good way to boost there earnings :smt102

At the moment it's more like the US tour and the Europeon tour thats all :D

It's a lot easier for us to get onto a course with numbers, then it is in Sydney. it just seem that the NSW members are falling further behind and this would be a good chance to let them make up some ground or alternative is slit it into 2 tours, maybe thats the way to go........

any thoughts on that :idea:

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 08:43 AM
what about the Victorians :?:

there's only a handful of them ... should the winner of that comp get the same amount of money as the winner of the NSW division :?

i think the prizemoney has to be relative to the size of the field :P

Last i looked there wasn't a Victorian comp?

But here's an idea for the Vic's - make it a Round-Robin. After 4 games each, the winner is declared on a top of the table basis, with for-and-against.

That would be worth the $$$.

Sometimes you have to think outside your little bitty square Jarro ;) :lol:

AndyP
12th April 2005, 08:59 AM
I am totally and utterly OVER this whole matchplay thing.
Are you forfeiting? :wink:

Flowergirl
12th April 2005, 09:23 AM
Don't you worry about us Victorians.........we'll get it together - one day. Just need Bruce to name a time and a place and I'll be there :wink:

markTHEblake
12th April 2005, 09:28 AM
Well so far the prizemoney structure has 2 objections out of 45 participants.

The only thing I will consider is applying the POTY guidelines exactly, which means the event with the greater number of participants has the bigger pool, just overall less money for the winner and relatively more for the other places.

Jarro
12th April 2005, 09:31 AM
Last i looked there wasn't a Victorian comp?


well there probably never will be one now that they know the winner will take home a cheque for $5 :roll:




I am totally and utterly OVER this whole matchplay thing.
Id did sound like a good idea at the start but it's now got a whole lot more complicated than it should be.
You should all be ashamed.

whatever you reckon Damo :P :wink:


Sometimes you have to think outside your little bitty square Jarro

hey i am mate. It's just that my little square has more prizemoney :P

Jarro
12th April 2005, 09:36 AM
I am totally and utterly OVER this whole matchplay thing.
Id did sound like a good idea at the start but it's now got a whole lot more complicated than it should be.
You should all be ashamed.

whatever you reckon Damo :P :wink:


Thats a cheap shot ! :evil:

sorry.

i saw a whinge occuring and naturally thought ..... :roll:

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 09:40 AM
Well so far the prizemoney structure has 2 objections out of 45 participants.

Funny that - seeing as though most of the 45 participants are playing in the QLD draw. Nice logic Eddie.......er... I mean Blakey... :roll:

Ultimately I couldn't give a crap about the money list either, but if you're going to do it, make it even. Simple enough request - it's not that hard to come up with a system that supports it - look above, we've come up with the answer. Now we just need this eCommittee to 'ratify' it :roll:

Does anyone in NSW / VIC feel they have to object? Probably not? It's not worth the energy. We're having just as much fun watching Jono and Trung tear into each other - that's worth more than any Monopoly money you can throw at the concept.

So that's my bit said. I'm off to burn my bra, polish my clubs and have a crack at The Vintage this weekend - with 6 OzGolfers - for a social game on a top-shelf course.

3oneday
12th April 2005, 09:59 AM
polish my crack at The Vintage this weekend - with 6 OzGolfers

Have fun :shock: ....

I'm sorry, is this event actually worth anything more than a bit of friendship building and sledge development skills :?: :?:
:D
Pete

markTHEblake
12th April 2005, 10:24 AM
Well so far the prizemoney structure has 2 objections out of 45 participants.

Funny that - seeing as though most of the 45 participants are playing in the QLD draw. Nice logic Eddie.......er... I mean Blakey... :roll:

yet only one objection from NSW, none from VIC, none from NQ, None from Brunei, none from the committee.

every arguement you have come up with is based on emotion not logic.

The formula for prizemoney for 1st place in any Ozgolf events is;

(#golfers * 1000) *1.5

if you want to argue logic then thats the only thing you have.

any idea you have presented means that if first place is the same there is going to be inequity in the allocation to the rest of the field between the 2 events, and that is not logical.

If you or anyone else want to suggest somethng, then supply me with the complete breakdown of the splits for the entire round, and your logical explanation why the smalleer field is worth more than the larger one.

Otherwise my final answer to this topic is:


POTY committee - the people that pay for the trophy are on this committee. Should anyone like to join the POTY committee please volunteer your donation, thanks!

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 10:40 AM
polish my crack at The Vintage this weekend - with 6 OzGolfers

Have fun :shock: ....

I'm sorry, is this event actually worth anything more than a bit of friendship building and sledge development skills :?: :?:
:D
Pete

...and bragging rights ;)

Should be a good day - been busting to play here, so (early) thanks go to Rob for making it happen.

3oneday
12th April 2005, 10:54 AM
every arguement you have come up as a bit of a stickler for not changing things once they have started.... we have started, there is nothing to discuss surely :?: :?:

Fishguts, entry was based on the rules as stipulated in the first couple of pages, are you trying to increase how much you get when ALD wipes the floor with you or what :?:

Thems the rules, one of the reasons only one or two of the 45 have raised an issue is the majority of the other 43 couldn't give a toss :wink: :D

Pete

markTHEblake
12th April 2005, 11:02 AM
Suggestion for Fish:

Its pretty obvious that the POTY winner is most likely going to be from Qld based on sheer numbers.

Let some moss out of your wallet and look after a trophy for a NSW POTY, just rehash the overall money list, by removing everyone else.

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 11:29 AM
Suggestion for Fish:

Its pretty obvious that the POTY winner is most likely going to be from Qld based on sheer numbers.

Let some moss out of your wallet and look after a trophy for a NSW POTY, just rehash the overall money list, by removing everyone else.

In a fit of apathy, I just thought i'd see if we can get ALD, Trung or whoever wins the NSW side to get more moola. If I want to perform in this POTY gig i'd turn up to more OzGolf days.

It's accepted that this POTY thing is pretty much limited to SE QLD'ers due to the numbers you guys can get to a gig, and the frequency you can do it - i'm in awe simply for the social aspect. Just can't happen in Sydney - the golf scene here just prevents it, even if you are a member of a local club. We're lucky to get 1 or 2 gigs a month that can accomodate more than 4 OzGolfers. The Vintage event this weekend requires a 2 hour drive and $65 green fees - and that's 50% off :roll:

Jono
12th April 2005, 08:11 PM
Suggestion for Fish:

Its pretty obvious that the POTY winner is most likely going to be from Qld based on sheer numbers.

Let some moss out of your wallet and look after a trophy for a NSW POTY, just rehash the overall money list, by removing everyone else.

In a fit of apathy, I just thought i'd see if we can get ALD, Trung or whoever wins the NSW side to get more moola. If I want to perform in this POTY gig i'd turn up to more OzGolf days.

It's accepted that this POTY thing is pretty much limited to SE QLD'ers due to the numbers you guys can get to a gig, and the frequency you can do it - i'm in awe simply for the social aspect. Just can't happen in Sydney - the golf scene here just prevents it, even if you are a member of a local club. We're lucky to get 1 or 2 gigs a month that can accomodate more than 4 OzGolfers. The Vintage event this weekend requires a 2 hour drive and $65 green fees - and that's 50% off :roll:

Fishy ... stop ya whingin' ... makes us southerners look like a bunch of whingers. :? :lol:

Mate, a lot of the Queensland guys drove 2 hours to Cool Tweed last year to meet the Fishman when you called in sick. :wink:

Qld guys play more because they make the effort. MTB can make his rules because he takes the time to put everyone's results together, week after week. Thanks to his efforts, at least we are having some FUN. :lol:

Trung
12th April 2005, 09:59 PM
Qld guys play more because they make the effort.

Damn Doc, do you know how dumb your last quote is.....


MTB can make his rules because he takes the time to put everyone's results together, week after week.

MTB, hows your backside?......must be very shiny now since Jono has been busy licking it...

Jono
12th April 2005, 10:20 PM
Qld guys play more because they make the effort.

Damn Doc, do you know how dumb your last quote is.....


Sigh ... (here we go ... Trung sharpening his nails again) ... No ... why doesn't our resident math genius enlighten us? :roll:

I've played with the Qld guys when I lived up in Lismore, and except for a few, I don't see the same kind of enthusiasm for organising Ozgolf days down here. Golf might be a bit less expensive up there and courses more accessable, but that doesn't explain why there should be more Qld golfers on this forum than NSW guys. If you have time to whinge, then go and recruit more NSW Ozgolfers. That way we'll have just as large field for the Matchplay. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:



MTB can make his rules because he takes the time to put everyone's results together, week after week.

MTB, hows your backside?......must be very shiny now since Jono has been busy licking it...

Mate, your attempt at sarcasm is getting pretty tiring. :roll: If you want a piece of me, wait till the Vintage game on Sunday. 8)

I have disagreed with MTB in the past and will continue to do so. However, he has put in a lot of effort into this POTY thing and I don't see any of the NSW guys doing the same thing. So, it's a simple case of put up or shut up. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

See you on Sunday and I hope we'll play a good match. 8)

Trung
12th April 2005, 10:39 PM
I don't see the same kind of enthusiasm for organising Ozgolf days down here.

Jono, most of us don't live, breath and dream about Ozgolf...

Jono
12th April 2005, 10:45 PM
I don't see the same kind of enthusiasm for organising Ozgolf days down here.

Jono, most of us don't live, breath and dream about Ozgolf...

None of us do.

My comment to Fishie was half in jest. If you read it for what it was, perhaps you wouln't have felt the need to sharpen your claws ... :roll: Save that for Sunday ... 8)

Fishman Dan
12th April 2005, 10:54 PM
Mate, a lot of the Queensland guys drove 2 hours to Cool Tweed last year to meet the Fishman when you called in sick. :wink:

Doc - it was either that or redecorate your car interior. And we're not talking a colour that's considered "The New Black" :roll:


I don't see the same kind of enthusiasm for organising Ozgolf days down here

See above re: course availability. If i did keep persisting with Fox Hills, i still couldn't get more than 1 group (3 guests) on the course during summer - 1 guest during winter. Sundays only.

You got 3 groups on at Bayview in December - after seeking special permission of the board. You're comparing apples with firetrucks.. :roll:


Golf might be a bit less expensive up there and courses more accessable, but that doesn't explain why there should be more Qld golfers on this forum than NSW guys.

There are plenty on ISG. They are aware of this site. I guess they choose to stay over there? Maybe something about annoying QLD'ers ;) :lol:


If you have time to whinge, then go and recruit more NSW Ozgolfers

I take it your nonplussed about the prize money because you've already been knocked out? :lol:

Jono
13th April 2005, 06:08 AM
Doc - it was either that or redecorate your car interior. And we're not talking a colour that's considered "The New Black" :roll:


Mate, I know you wanted to play that day as much as the next guy. I wasn't having a go at you for being sick ... :wink: I was hoping to make the point in a light hearted way that organising/playing in Ozgolf events up in Qld is not as easy as putting your name down and driving 10 minutes to the course. A lot of them drive quite far to get to Ozgolf days. But I take your point that it is very difficult in Sydney to get more than one group on, especially on weekends. The price we pay for living next to a giant coat hanger, I suppose ... :wink:




If you have time to whinge, then go and recruit more NSW Ozgolfers

I take it your nonplussed about the prize money because you've already been knocked out? :lol:

Yeah ... that must be it. :roll: :lol:

As much as I would like to see you as the fighter for justice and equal pay rights, something inside me says you are just looking for some shit to stir ... :wink: :lol: :lol: [/quote]

Fishman Dan
13th April 2005, 06:37 AM
something inside me says you are just looking for some s#$% to stir ... :wink: :lol: :lol:

Moi?

O:) :lol:

Jono
13th April 2005, 07:14 PM
something inside me says you are just looking for some s#$% to stir ... :wink: :lol: :lol:

Moi?

O:) :lol:

Yes, you. In fact, I reckon you should host an Ozgolf version of the Jerry Springer Show ... Imagine the audience chanting "Fishie, Fishie, Fishie ..." as two Ozgolfers tear at each others clothes and pull each other's hair out. :shock: :lol:

markTHEblake
18th May 2005, 09:36 PM
Two Clarifications have been made to the Tournament 'conditions', on the first page regarding Matchplay index and the POTY prizemoney.

any questions?

Eag's
26th July 2005, 07:04 PM
I am going to have to forfeit my 2nd round match with Gaz due to work commitments :(
I now work most weekends so I only get one Sat off a month. So there is no way we will be able to get our match played before the due date.

Good luck in the next round Gaz :wink:

AndyP
28th July 2005, 03:39 PM
Blakey, with Eag's withdrawal, does Gaz go straight through to the next round or play Eag's previous opponent?

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 07:54 AM
Shazza will step up for a second go.... keep the girls a live in match play.

Give them three weeks to play and if they cann't get a game Gaz can get the default win.

AndyP
29th July 2005, 08:01 AM
Shazza will step up for a second go.... keep the girls a live in match play.

Give them three weeks to play and if they cann't get a game Gaz can get the default win.
Technically they would have 3 days to play, including today.
Just waiting on Blakey's ruling.

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 08:13 AM
Good old Technically....

and the rules never bend so who won between Jarro & keza :wink:

Without the ruling it goes matter anyway. and three weeks does effect anything.

AndyP
29th July 2005, 08:26 AM
I just can't see why a loser should get a second chance.

I'm not asking for one.

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 09:42 AM
Andy & G69.

Its the luck of the draw if some pulls out of your section and you get a life line.  Its common in most comps I know if someone pulls out after the first round the last player they beat is given a chance and if they don't want it then they get a free pass.

Why should anyone get a free ride after the first round, they should have to earn there spot or other wise in theroy a person could win the whole comp without playing a game.

Shazza isn't asking for a second chance, I just think the offer should be made. She could still very well say no thanks.

AndyP
29th July 2005, 10:07 AM
I must have missed it when they applied the lifeline rule to the World Matchplay Championships and Wimbledon.
It's not something that's common to me.

You could also argue that it's the luck of the draw if your opponent pulls out, and you get a free ride.
To me the winner of an elimination draw would be someone who went through undefeated, not a lucky loser.

markTHEblake
29th July 2005, 10:29 AM
Just waiting on Blakey's ruling.

Dont need to make a ruling - there is a rule in place, it's been discussed before, and legal precedence set ;-). See 2005 Wong v. Jim

Last thing anyone will want to see is Someone win this thing becuase all his opponents forfeited, even if its just the semi, or the final.

To avoid forfeits in matchplay events, most golf clubs will say "If you cant play every round of the matchplay, dont play at all". So Eags should have forfeited before the first round (in theory), and Shazza goes through to the next round.

Because ours is played over an extended period its impossible to know if you can play every round or not, as Eags has just found out. So the next best way to organise it so there are not any walkover matches is dont have any.

BrisVegas
29th July 2005, 11:50 AM
Either that or make him play the bloke who had the best score but still got beat.  :oops:

Can't believe you are still moaning about that???!! Get over it. You got done. :roll:

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 11:59 AM
[quote="AndyP"]I must have missed it when they applied the lifeline rule to the World Matchplay Championships and Wimbledon.
It's not something that's common to me.[quote]

Add to my statement amateur sport (& social) level.  I have even seen it at National level in some sports.

At a pro level and in other events outside of match play eg Wimbledon it doesn't happen

Choppa
29th July 2005, 12:10 PM
Can't believe you are still moaning about that???!!  Get over it.  You got done.  :roll:
Look...cut me some slack. I had 36 points around bribie. I used to dream about shooting 36 points around there.
It was a career round for me.
...and have I told you i'm still not happy about the coaching you provided during the game. [-X

Damn I am GOOD 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:

BrisVegas
29th July 2005, 12:14 PM
Can't believe you are still moaning about that???!!  Get over it.  You got done.  :roll:...and have I told you i'm still not happy about the coaching you provided during the game. [-X

the only "coaching" I offered choppa was I told him to look away when you were swinging... :shock:

Didn't want you to put him off his game. :wink:

3oneday
29th July 2005, 12:22 PM
Gee, I thought everyone had forgotten about the event, maybe just the NewSouthWelshmen hey !!!!

Pete

Speirsy11
29th July 2005, 12:26 PM
Gee, I thought everyone had forgotten about the event, maybe just the NewSouthWelshmen hey !!!!

Pete

Still front and center in my mind.....Hopefully getting my match done on Sunday....care to join us at Bayview Pete?

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 12:44 PM
Blakey, with Eag's withdrawal, does Gaz go straight through to the next round or play Eag's previous opponent?

For the record Andy you started this not me.

And Blakey what was the ruling for those that don't know what your talking about.

markTHEblake
29th July 2005, 12:48 PM
And Blakey what was the ruling for those that don't know what your talking about.

RTFM (READ THE FLIPPIN MANUAL!) :roll:

terryand
29th July 2005, 01:28 PM
Is it too late to drop out of this sh!t now :smt102 I don't really feel like being part of this girly pull ya hair schoolyard fight :smt011

Terry.

AndyP
29th July 2005, 01:31 PM
geez pete...grow up...
I can't believe you used the old "you started it" bit.
Not only that, but he's replied twice, without me actually saying anything. Must be on his mind.


For the record Andy you started this not me.
I'm fully aware of that.
Eag's had asked me to update the draw to put Gaz through to the next round, after his withdrawal. However, I knew the rules stated otherwise, so I asked Blakey a question to clarify the rules in this circumstance (because of the time limits).
You decided to reply on his behalf. :roll:

I'm aware of the rules, but that doesn't mean I agree with them.

AndyP
29th July 2005, 01:33 PM
Is it too late to drop out of this sh!t now :smt102 I don't really feel like being part of this girly pull ya hair schoolyard fight :smt011
That would mean I go through to the next round.  Do you really want that? :lol:

And I can't believe you are saying that after the crap I copped leading upto our match.

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 02:13 PM
Golfer69 is it that time of the month for you.  Maybe you have to grow up I was just stating a fact. :wink:

Andy it is only on my mind because If the rules were set in rock then I would have to try and orginise a game for shaza/gaza with weekend. as you pointed out. but If they were allowed three weeks to try and play it then gaza got the free ride thats another issuse.  Why did Eags forefit sooner to give them time(no a shot at you Eags just stating a point).

Sorry blake I'm lazy why search for it when you can just ask... I have since read. :roll:

I'm having a really bad day at work so bring it on :twisted:  :lol:

Speirsy11
29th July 2005, 02:27 PM
Wow. Set your matches and play them. If a guy can't make it before the deadline, he loses and the other guy moves one.

Quit your bitching and moaning and move on. This should have been a simple, fun way to get a lot of people playing each other; instead you guys turn it into a petty bitchfest. If you lost in an earlier round, you're done. Let the people still in it to work it out amongst themselves.

Damn.

peter_rs
29th July 2005, 02:28 PM
Ask shaza & keza I'm a big girl.

And I didn't know we were fighting, can't people debate :?

I just asked if they were allowed time (not 3 days) to try and play the match, as per the rules- your the one that didn't like the rule (a loser getting a second chance).

I have said my piece.

Jarro
29th July 2005, 03:44 PM
just all bail out now, i'm gonna win the thing dammit :twisted:

terryand
29th July 2005, 04:12 PM
I agree Rob: :smt023

I have a problem with someone that has been beaten fairly and squarely once already, going on to win  :smt017

Terry.

markTHEblake
29th July 2005, 04:17 PM
Why is the subject of a time limit being bought up?
I thought Gaz and Eags had two months left to play each other.

Eag's
29th July 2005, 04:32 PM
Ok people this has got a bit out of hand :smt017
It was not my intention to cause so much grief. It should just be a simple matter of Gaz going through to the next round.

My work situation has changed, which means I get one Sat off a month which sucks bigtime :( I have had way more important issues to deal with on the home front so golf has taken a back seat.

It was only recently I noticed that the due date was coming up for all 2nd round Matches to be completed, hence my late notice.

Yes Blakey if I had of known my work situation was going to change, then I would not of entered in the first place.

How bout everyone just take a chill pill and get on with the rest of the comp.

Jarro
29th July 2005, 04:36 PM
maybe we could bend the rules to allow this match to happen :wink:

markTHEblake
29th July 2005, 04:43 PM
Yes Blakey if I had of known my work situation was going to change, then I would not of entered in the first place.

I wasnt being personal, apologies if it seemed that way.

Of course you didnt know, its not possible that anybody would have known.


I dont think anyone needs a chill pill anyway - its just being a sledge feast, between a bunch of big manly aussie blokes who needed to let out some tension but are too scared to get involved in the sex, religion and politics thread.

markTHEblake
29th July 2005, 04:47 PM
2nd round match? I thought we were talking about a 3rd round match.

Oh heck much ado about nothing. RTFM - Gazgolf gets a walkover.

Fishman Dan
29th July 2005, 06:00 PM
Has this cooled off yet?

If i pull out give Spiers a walkover on Sunday (regardless of whether i play on Sunday or not), will this bur-up again? Please? :lol:

I'll let Shaz or Peter take my lucky loser spot if you can get the Bayview by Sunday morning.. :lol:

AndyP
29th July 2005, 06:19 PM
Ok people this has got a bit out of hand :smt017

Disagree.
I thought we were just discussing the rules in general. The rules as they are stand. The time for changing them was at the start.
We can always make them better next year.

BrisVegas
28th September 2005, 09:58 AM
damoocow - I sent you a PM about a possible game on Sunday arvo...

Don't know about you, but I forgot about the Sept 30 deadline, so we need to get our game sorted ASAP. :oops:

BrisVegas
29th September 2005, 07:01 AM
Ozgolf Matchplay Rules.

4.  There will be a set date for each round of matches to be played.  If a match is not played both competitors are disqualified, unless one forfeits.  A player may appeal this to the committee should he think the opponent did not make fair effort to arrange a match.
Approx 1 to 2 months will be given to arrange a match, about 12 months for the whole event.

Ahem...

Mr. Chairman, members of the Matchplay Committee.... On behalf of my matchplay oppent, Mr Moocow, I humbly seek an extension of time to play our quarter final match til the 30th October. Both Mr Moocow and I had forgotten about the 30th September deadline (for which we're both truly sorry :oops: ), but we're hastily making plans for a mutually agreeable weekend golf day for our our match to occur. At this stage, we have tentatively agreed upon Sunday 30th October as the date for our match.

Pending the committee's acquiesence to our request, a 1st tee thread will be started for a concurrent ozgolf day, venue TBA.

Humbly,
B. Vegas.
:wink:

AndyP
29th September 2005, 07:29 AM
Apparently I'm a member of the matchplay committee.

So I vote to accept your request for a time extension.

Hmmm, October 30 seems to be pushing it a bit late.  This thing is meant to be finished before or during the Champs.  That would only leave a few weeks for the next two matches.

I get the feeling that nothing is happening with the Iain/Gaz match either. :smt102

terryand
29th September 2005, 07:41 AM
Apparently I'm a member of the matchplay committee.

So I vote to accept your request for a time extension.

Hmmm, October 30 seems to be pushing it a bit late.  This thing is meant to be finished before or during the Champs.  That would only leave a few weeks for the next two matches.

I get the feeling that nothing is happening with the Iain/Gaz match either. :smt102

Jarro and I are replaying ours this coming Wednesday.

Terry.

BrisVegas
29th September 2005, 07:47 AM
So I vote to accept your request for a time extension.

Hmmm, October 30 seems to be pushing it a bit late.  This thing is meant to be finished before or during the Champs.  That would only leave a few weeks for the next two matches.


cheers Andy. We're trying to get something sorted before then, but we both have weekend commitments to work around... If only I could play midweek like Tez and Jarro....

There's a possibility for a game on the day after the Holden Scramble at Windaroo, wives permitting... :oops: Worst case, both of us had the 30th free...

I can't see why the finals can't be played at the champs, which means there's all of November for the semi's.

Jarro
5th October 2005, 01:19 PM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza

AndyP
5th October 2005, 02:06 PM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza
Commmiserations, jarro.
Was he on fire or were you off your game? Or a bit of both.

At least I can take heart out of having a smaller loss to him on a neutral course now. :P

Jarro
5th October 2005, 02:12 PM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza
Commmiserations, jarro.
Was he on fire or were you off your game?  Or a bit of both.

At least I can take heart out of having a smaller loss to him on a neutral course now.  :P

well, i think he was 2 over off the stick after 9 holes ... so i guess you could say there wasn't much i could do about things :roll:

although he did get the wobbles up on the back 9, and if i didn't have a horror 13th hole, i might have got back to within 1 of him. :lol:

3oneday
5th October 2005, 03:13 PM
well, i think he was 2 over off the stick after 9 holes ... so i guess you could say there wasn't much i could do about things  :roll: soo, he was playing to his handicap then ???

:P :P

Jarro
5th October 2005, 03:16 PM
well, i think he was 2 over off the stick after 9 holes ... so i guess you could say there wasn't much i could do about things  :roll: soo, he was playing to his handicap then ???

:P  :P

no tosspot, that would've been playing to YOUR handicap :roll:

Eag's
5th October 2005, 03:30 PM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza

Bad luck mate, but at least you made it this far :wink:
Well played Tezza =D>

markTHEblake
5th October 2005, 10:35 PM
Ok Tex, I dont have a lot of spare time these days and i forgot when the champs are on so it had better be sooner than later. I'll be in touch with my schedule soon. Can you play weekdays?

The only other question is shall we play Emerald Lakes with my home track advantage, or at Windaroo with your home track disadvantage.

terryand
6th October 2005, 05:49 AM
Ok Tex,   I dont have a lot of spare time these days and i forgot when the champs are on so it had better be sooner than later.  I'll be in touch with my schedule soon. Can you play weekdays?

The only other question is shall we play Emerald Lakes with my home track advantage, or at Windaroo with your home track disadvantage.

How about we take my home track disadvantage,only because its halfway between both of us.

Terry.

Flowergirl
7th October 2005, 07:04 PM
Result of The Victorian Matchplay...........we don't muck around down here.....
Flowergirl pipped Bruceboy on the last hole.

Ok.........who do I play next?????????????????
Bring it on boys and girls. :twisted:

Jarro
8th October 2005, 12:02 AM
well done Flowergirl 8)

Brucey-boy .... come and sit with me on the losers lounge :cry:

Onewood
8th October 2005, 12:08 AM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza

Bad luck mate, but at least you made it this far :wink:
Well played Tezza  =D>

Jarro, did you end up with a few BYE's mate did you :lol:

Jarro
8th October 2005, 12:15 AM
Tezza got me 5 & 3 today at Nudgee.

well played Tezza

Bad luck mate, but at least you made it this far  :wink:
Well played Tezza  =D>

Jarro, did you end up with a few BYE's mate did you :lol:

haha, yeah right :roll: :lol:

torrid encounters with Peter_rs and Keza must've taken all the gas outta me, i had none left for Tezza :wink: :lol:

BrisVegas
30th October 2005, 01:07 PM
30/10/05 - gazgolf def. BrisVegas 2 up

33 + 43 = 76 Gaz
44 + 38 = 82


Well done Gaz, you deserved the win. 8) =D>

I'm happy to have made you play 18 holes after what looked a white-wash early on. :shock: :oops: 5 up through 6 is pretty demoralising and I was thinking I would only be playing 12 holes. I can't believe how bad I started! :cry: Thankfully I made a few pars and started putting better around the back to keep you honest.

Good luck in the final. :)

markTHEblake
30th October 2005, 01:34 PM
30/10/05 - gazgolf def. BrisVegas 2 up

33 + 43 = 76 Gaz
44 + 38 = 82

:shock: :shock:

that front 9 looks scary...... on paper that could have beeen close to a 10/8

and an interesting point - the final 4 players in the matchplay appear to be the 4 lowest handicappers. So much for the burglars, the cream has rightfully risen to the TOP!

BrisVegas
30th October 2005, 01:42 PM
:shock:  :shock:

that front 9 looks scary......  on paper that could have beeen close to a 10/8


It was on the cards. :lol:

Thankfully we halved 7,8,9,10,11,12,13 before I won 14,15,16,17 to be 1 down dormie on the last.

gazgolf1
30th October 2005, 02:24 PM
Fun day at Wynnum today. :D
I had a good front nine with all the breaks going my way and a birdie-birdie start always helps.
Then Brisvegas turned it on with pars on 14,15, hitting the pin on the short 16th and draining a clutch 8 footer for the bird and the hole.Then he gets up and down on 17 and wins another hole.
After I unpuckered :wink: I parred the last for the win :roll:.
Eags had flashes of brilliance while putting lefthanded and booming some looong high-cut drives. :shock:
Thanks to the Hackers social club for allowing us to join in and take some of their prizes. 8)

Jarro
30th October 2005, 05:05 PM
well played Gaz, good luck against Tezza in the final 8)

Eag's
30th October 2005, 05:57 PM
It was fun to be in the middle of the Gaz V Vegas match 8)
Things were looking a bit bleak for Vegas after 9, but he got his act together on the back.
Gaz was solid all day as usual :wink: Vegas turned it on over the last 6 holes to put a bit of presure on, but Gaz held on.

Well played gents, top match :smt023

markTHEblake
30th October 2005, 10:38 PM
What happened with the Gaz v Iain Matchplay - a forfeit?

gazgolf1
31st October 2005, 04:23 AM
What happened with the Gaz v Iain Matchplay - a forfeit?

yes. :?